Gobsmacked! How many fatalities have we had in MotoGP…..Dare I say it More riders @TT are killed. Do they close the race or restrict bikes no… BTW this racing goes over the entire world how is it 2 of the DORNA board has 2 family members and several other family members involved. This decision can’t be made by people with vested interest in broadcasting rights internationally, international representation must come from several countries not tied into 4 members reigning from Spain and Italy. FYI DORNA recently sold to Liberty Media (F1) for ~18 billion dollars….. Dorna has made their money they don’t care about MotoGP… Simply disgusting

Make the cars louder and you will have an easier time selling the electric front wheel idea to most f one fans.

Time to open a new series Or make super formula it . Light small V8 powered ,high revving No electricity

Race without a trace simple

Amazing vídeo

Even more electric crap noone but a few loudmouths asked for? Ew, no thanks.

balkan dream

That T80 looks absolutely amazing.....half aircraft, half spaceship. What a piece of engineering in the 1930's. Mercedes-Benz have some back-catalogue! Unlike any other manufacturer in history!

Wonder how much it cost given how complicated compound PU are? Also, unlike AMG ONE, i don't think it will run into much trouble as it bespoke, not full F1 PU modified for road

Still a lot of weight over the rear axle.. Porsche could've packaged some of the electronics & the radiator at the front improving 50/50 weight distribution % s. & thus, making maintance easier in the engine bay due to more space.....

That's a lot of pistons going really fast!

Very interesting and well explained thank you. I believe Porsche is playing with words a little bit in their description of the system only adding 50kg. They advertise that the car has only increased weight by 50kg yet they make things like the rear seats together with the seatbelts, etc a 'no cost' option. This allows them to advertise a lower weight where the real road cars that most people order will be heavier.

If this engine has the proper geometry for high rpm workloads modified it will break all Huracan records (assuming a company crazy enough to modify them)... That's why you see GTR eclipse 3000 HP and Lambo's V10 struggle past that despite the displacement advantage... their piston speeds hurts them (You can't engineer yourself out of a long stroke design).

"War came on the way" Reaaallyyyy, it just came? Poor germans, war stopped their plans.

f1 has been irreversibly damaged and ruined.

VW trash

My idea for 2030 would be simpler and cheaper: N/A, 2.8L V8 with 40V (5 valves per cylinder), variable valve timing, lift and duration are allowed (including camless engines), 15k RPM limit, dual injection (direct injection via pre-chamber + port injection), twin-spark (one in the pre-chamber and the other out of it), micro-wave ignition allowed, and with and MGU-K in the crankshaft, with most parts (batteries, e-motors, injectors, sparks/microwave igniters, ECUs and radiators) being standalone to keep the costs down, and all of them using e-fuel.

VW / Audi engine

why? shit for “tax write off” for the rich.

Another hot V disaster waiting to happen 😹

So let me get this straight. VW group joining F1 was conditional on having an engine formula that they liked and was relevant to road cars. F1 is removing the mgu-h because it was deemed to be too expensive to be viable for road cars. VW group officially agreed to join F1 and simultaneously made the first mass produced car with an MGU-H. A car that is not prohibitively expensive compared to others in its segment. Makes so much sense….

I think an electrified axle maces so much sence in recovering energy we cant ignore it.

That car should be called the McGremlin. It needs to be flattened out and widened.

Is this the first mass-produced car with a MGU-H?

BIG BIG BIG W

I think its awesome and I'm sure Lambo will do it justice with the noise it produces, but i can note that with many very high end tuner 4cyl 10k RPM is always one of the weirdest sounding RPMs, Toyota, Hondas namely that i have heard. Very different engine but assuming this is flat-plane and basically 2x inline 4s i still wonder how it will turn out as with some (not all but many) of those cars 9k sounds awesome, 11k sounds extreme, something odd about 10k engines some of the time although its usually a rare target since it has most the cost of the 11k engines with less results, just a bit less risk/higher (relative) longevity. These are all 7-8k engines with extreme high end parts, for racing not production, not bespoke production ones though. Some of the oddness i likely mention is just that said engines are usually mostly using design changes and tech from 11k engines, so they naturally sound like they are shortshifting.

Is the MGUH connected directly to the shaft?! I tought they used planetary gears or something. The rpm must be crazy for that electric motor. The single bigger turbo probably helps with that, smaller twin turbos would spin even faster

What's brilliant is that manufacturers are now starting to utilise the MGUH concept, just before it's removed from F1

With the way the EU is hell bent on strangling the life out of their own car industry, Porsche might need to start looking for more creative solutions elsewhere soon.

Thanks

Looks like Porsche did their homework on this one. Pretty interesting!

This engine will end up in an another Audi R8 replacement and might make it into a Porsche hype car.

i never thought i'd see and mgu-h in a road car, but since audi is coming into f1, it makes sense why this has been developed. awesome it only adds 50kg. i'm sure if they wanted to, they can reduce weight by 50kg somewhere else.

Instead of this whole expensive tech - use expensive materials to make the car lighter, and thus fuel efficient. And bring back N/A engines.

Im truly suprised that the turbo needs a whole 11kW to spool up. Thats a quite big amount of power.

Porsche should make a GT2 (RS) using this system. It will be a monster.

I like this! A performance hybrid system to complement the mighty Porsche H6 will work well with this lightweight, agile, speedy wonderful machine. As long as the 911 NEVER goes fully-electric, I'm definitely in support of innovation. Also, NO PHEVs, please!

There's probably another reason for no loud engines: Noise complaints from cities, which could get F1 in trouble, I wonder how that went in the past