The same thing happens with the Iliad.

Yes,

He's a metalhead born too early.

The crazy thing about Beethoven was that he could write stuff like this on the fly. He'd be at a party, and someone would hum a little tune for him, and if he was in the mood (and he'd tell you off if he wasn't!) he would then improvise for an hour on that little tune, turning it in, out and upside down, using his incredible genius and amazing logic to expand the music in every direction, with dazzling speed, power chords, and beautiful melodies that he came up with on the spot! His great nephew came to America and invented something like the postal meter. That's the kind of mind Beethoven had. And no one could touch him as a pianist. Piano superstars like Liszt, Chopin and Clara Schumann spent their whole lives trying to carry on his legacy. The person who said he composed for the modern piano rather than for the fortepianos that existed in his day doesn't tell the whole story; because of his hearing loss, he actually corresponded with piano manufacturers with his ideas on how to make the piano a better and more powerful instrument. He sort of made the modern piano! If you really want some "can't find my keys" music, try his "Rage Over a Lost Penny"!😅

Yes, he was the one who brought dynamics to the table. Until then, most instruments had a fairly limited dynamic range (volume level). The harpsichord and organ were either on or off--there was no quietly or loudly, etc.

He would have been a rockstar in this day and age

He was the equivalent of a rock star in his age.

Wasn't that Mozart?

@@ingmarbergmanofficialMozart was the Beatles and Beethoven was more like the rolling stones. They're both great, but one was considered wild for the time and the other appropriate

@@romanlovera427 yeah i agree! but i meant didnt Mozart start at 5?

Yes ❤ because no other music is meant to be felt. So true.

Extra true here, given that the composer himself was deaf and thus unable to hear the music he wrote...

@@ollep9142 EXACTLY! When Beethoven realized he was losing his hearing, he sawed the legs off of a piano, so that as he played on it, he could literally FEEL the vibrations & resonance of what he was playing. But his composition has always had an undercurrent of power, even in softer pieces. Like feeling an oncoming storm, & then feeling the thrum through your chest when the thunder finally crashes.

I don’t think that the stability his profession had anything to do with his lack of success concerning his love life. Besides, he was a popular composer (over 10,000 people attended his funeral, for example). Music was his first love. Everything else was secondary. He tended to pick women who were out of his reach anyway, such as aristocrats (which, to me, was kind of an act of self sabotage). And, he wasn’t considered ONE of the best pianists in Vienna. When he came to town NO ONE could beat him, though many tried. Vienna was, at that time, a piano crazy town. One dude who had the temerity to challenge him was asked about it afterwards, and he complained that Beethoven played like a demon. Before he lost his hearing he was a piano playing beast. 😁

Didn't composers used to simply score the music as they have heard things so many times they needn't play it to know what it would sound like? I also heard Beethoven could still physically feel the music

Wasn't there a riot at one of Stravinskys concerts?

Radio ruined it all..😒

@@quinto34 Radio went in every pretty much every house, quick. How many people you think could afford a "family piano" in the 1700s and 1800s?

@@Malfehzan In the beginning of the 20th century quite a lot..relatively of course..My grandmother was of the generation were the ladies were send to the conservatory to learn classical piano

@@quinto34 And "Video killed the radio star" lol [that's the first song tat went on MTV in the early 1980's..

apparently because the men, except for a few, were lousy musicians lol

I laughed so hard at that. 🤣🤣

Yes!

Yes! Mozart! 👌

The boy in the red shirt... that clip makes me tear up and smile every time I watch it again.

Love it

Pronounced Son -a-Ta Not Sun-atta

I think it's more indebted to Bach and fugues, repeated phrases, inverting phrases , transposing etc

If children learn to play it they do even better in other subjects

⁠@@mkrezanski6606 That’s very true. Playing the violin really helped me focus on other subjects in school. It’s really disgraceful that many of those programs have been eliminated from the school curriculum.

I had a dear friend who swore by Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake as the ideal accompaniment to housework and ironing. Try it, it works! :-)

He was NOT deaf when he wrote this. He didn’t go completely deaf until around 1818. This was written in around 1801/1802. He was just beginning to lose it at that point.

What a beautiful memory

Yes it's usually the other way around. I like this

I don't know whether to thank you or curse you for that suggestion!!! LMAO! I'm *still* laughing! 😂😁

@@leslieoneal4464 🤣🤣🤣

Duelling Banjos for the 16th century (or whatever century he was from)

Surprised he doesn’t like Brahms ? His stuff is soothing

Mozart's piano concerto no. 23 in A major is great. But what really sets it apart is the 2nd slow movement in F# minor. It's ... exquisite... is the only word applicable.

@@mkrezanski6606 Yes, he does...along with Handel, Strauss, Pachebel, et al

@@weepingscorpion8739 ill find that specific piece for him tonight. thank you for your suggestion and your great taste!

I hope he has discovered the actual gems of different composers. These pieces are to an extent overplayed. For Beethoven's best: Piano sonatas, the early, (8th peak) the late (hammerklavier, 30th+). His Symphonies.

Percussive and radical at the time.

Niccolò Paganini

That's such a great movie, heartbreaking and passionate and so well acted. The part where he's composing Ode to Joy (Beethoven's 9th Symphony, the last he completed) absolutely killed me, though, with the complaints about how he was just playing a scale over and over. So, so funny.

don't forget the 9th Symphony, sometimes referred to as the "Ode to Joy"

Oh, that's a great one too. I had considered recommending that one, but went with the 5th instead.

I prefer the Seventh.

The 3rd too is also amazing as well as the 6th

3rd or 7th for me.

I assume you were being facetious with your comment about Beethoven being a pleasant person to be around, but just think about it. He began losing the one sense that was essential to someone like him. It’s understandable that he would have become bitter. One has to also take into account that his father was an alcoholic who used beat him. It was the job of he and his younger brothers to go out at all hours of the night and pick up their drunken father out of the gutter so that he would not be arrested for vagrancy. Beethoven became the legal guardian of his brothers at around the age of 18. He became the sole breadwinner. Not an easy life, even from the beginning. Most of his siblings never even made it out of childhood.

@@MsAppassionata I actually meant unpleasant, just mistyped. But yes, he had every reason to be bitter and angry. And I recall reading about his childhood as well. He had a difficult go of it.

I recommend you to listen to his 8th piano sonata. The first movement is his truest expression of sadness, despair, rage. The second mvt is probably one of the most beautiful ones.

A couple of more recommendations: Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No 2, and Gershwin's Rhapsody In Blue. If you're a fan of old-school cartoons, you may be familiar with the Liszt piece, and Gershwin's has been popular, too.

I have often daydreamed what the great composers of the 17th 18th and 19th centuries transported to today and given an unlimited array and working knowledge of current electronic instruments, what masterpieces they would produce. Symphonic metal would never be the same.

The last sequence where he cannot hear the orchestra or the ovation of the audience at the premier of what many consider his master work is humbling

My favorite Beethoven film! Love it.

Omg yes mine too!!

I prefer his 9th Symphony (though I like Fur Elise too).

Which Bond film? I don’t recall it in those films. I recognized some Chopin in “Spy Who Loved Me” but not the Moonlight.

@@gatesurfer let me investigate the name because I don´t remember. 😁