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The number one thing that has damaged my life and I am still recovering from it. Is religious trauma. It's extremely complex and destructive to life. The way it folds your mind in on itself and creates immensely powerful ruinous psychological inner battles. That absorb your mind, energy and time. To effectively create a completely futile foundation where you find it impossible to live from. Is a crime against your humanity.

I went to a Baptist Christian school when I was a kid. They would get us in the auditorium put on stage one at a time. We were to recount all our sins then cry. Crying was mandatory and I didn't cry. I caught hell for that. We were only around 12 to 13 years old. Everything was mandatory baseball, basketball , football no choice at all. Made us run miles in a 3 peice suite and dress shoes every day. It was like the Hitler youth program. I ran off and managed to get kicked out. Freedom at.last.

I was raised in a religious narcissistic family cult and emotional neglect raised Pentecostal belief system and I think I have suffered from complex PTSD and religious trauma

I was borne into a fundamentalist home in 1970. I was reminded about every church service, 3 to 4 a week, that the rapture was overdue. I was concerned about hell, but more the rapture. Every year the congregation had a New Year’s Eve service, and they were always so surprised that they had seen another year come. No emphasis was put on education, careers, financial investments. You lived as though you had a terminal disease that was going to take you out any day. I’ve recently de-converted, I am in poor health. My future isn’t what it should’ve been. I regret the lie that I was told. I share this as a warning, regardless of what you believe, do take thought for tomorrow.

I suffered from the delusion I had commited the unpardonable sin from childhood and a well meaning mother who tried to scare me with descriptions of hell and damnation starting at age 6

My wife is a living example of religious trauma. She is now bed bound and all that i can blame for it is the religion she has been invested in so ardently for the last couple years. So, this is the thing, she is now suffering from catatonia and is completely incapacitated as a fall out from intense feeling of guilt. She had a telephonic conversation with my brother with whom she has had a long standing issue and something triggered her and she went on a rampage over the phone abusing and cursing him with all sorts of cusses and nasty words. And.... and after that incident I and my daughter were witness to how drastically she has gone down in her health to the point of being bed bound for the last one and a quarter of an year and is still in and out of hospitals and care homes and I am at my wit's end looking at how terribly Christianity's concepts of hell and heaven can have a toll on people and their mental health.

I nearly wound up in the hospital resulting from a "breakdown" from a fear of dying and going to hell because I could feel "saved". That was in 2005 and I'm still in recovery.

Im jealous of you guys and how free you look..religious trauma is beyond debilitating. It has totally destroyed me. I was just so innocent and Ive lost everything 😢 Im still swaying back and forth though like a yoyo and really freaking in case Im wrong. need help so badly 😢

I totally agree with Mr. Darren Swade! My poor husband and kids! Little things could set off a trigger and I would lose my shit! I would say the most hateful shit to my husband and sometimes my kids! I’m so glad I got diagnosed and therapy!! Also glad my husband and kids understood and still love me.❤

I became an atheist when I was 7 years old at Sunday school my grandma took me back to the church in the middle of the week and I had to talk to the preacher in his room by myself that's where I was traumatized and I actually hated church ever since and know for a fact all religion is phony

In January 2020, we had a visiting pastor come in and in his sermon he said ...."because you are bad people!" and pointed to the congregation, equating to reminding them how sinful they are. I remember looking at the innocent kids in the pulpit, front seat, centre to hearing this shit!!!! I got so furious that they were still preaching this shit!! and I shared my feelings with a couple of my church peers who responded with blank stares! Implying probably 'um guess its not nice but the pastor said and its truth and we dont question it"... I actually prayed asking "God, please show me a sign if this message is not true, do something!" (Still angry haha) A few weeks later, church shut their doors due to COVID. Turning point in my life, I never returned.

45:07 I’d have to check because I can’t remember if it was St Augustine or Tertullian who said it, but one of these guys had written about going up to heaven and looking down and seeing people being tortured. How he’ll laugh or smile seeing that. And the people being tortured are basically just equivalent to kids who picked on him in school, like it’s sort of petty. I remember thinking “wow…this is one of the founding fathers of Christianity AND someone who heavily influenced the modern concept of hell. Why would I trust anything this man has to say”. Pretty sure it was Augustine.

One of the worst aspects of RTS is that the one who have caused it are the ones gaslighting the victims into thinking it's their own fault. If only they were right with god, they wouldn't feel that way. I almost cry at the thought of further victimizing the victim!

Brilliant episode. Religious Trauma Syndrome is real. I was raised as a JW and can, well, testify to the damage those types of religions do. I'd recommend Leaving the Fold by Marlene Winnel. It helped me a lot

I suffer from religious trauma especially as a gay man. I heard every service how evil and disgusting I was , and how hays should be executed. I sat through that and ministered in that atmosphere for 20 plus years before I came out and left the church. Now I have a love/hate relationship with Christianity.

I spent time in a Psychiatric Clinic due to religious trauma, but your channel and your videos have helped me a lot, and they have been part of my recovery, thank you so very much for the great work that you are doing Derek!

My mother was not averse to spreading trauma among her children, grandchildren, and neighbor kids all in the name of getting them onto the correct path. When I was in my 40s and she was In her 70s, we were all at a grandkid birthday party at my ex-wife's house. While everyone shared stories of our teenage years and various fun stories about close calls with trouble, she said something that made everyone's jaws drop. She told everyone how well behaved I was and the fact that I didn't experience much punishment. Because I was the lone atheist in the room and everyone knew it, she said, "maybe I should have spent more time scaring the hell out of him when he was young". The room suddenly got silent and everyone was embarrassed by such a bizarre statement coming from a supposedly "deeply religious" woman.

One thing people do is try to hang onto their religious beliefs, maybe thinking the depression or unfortunate events are causing the depression, instead of the religious thinking patterns causing the depression. I was surrounded by religious church people, Christian psychiatrist & councilor, who would only reinforce the ideas I needed to undo, exacerbating my psychological problems and decision making- staying with neglect, abuse and powerlessness, until I got to the point, I could see the religion was killing me. For survival I got mad and left. I left my state of fear by taking the attitude of surprise me, because I was no longer firm on the religious beliefs, but had nothing to replace it. My depression lifted, but I no longer had a community or support system. Just because your depression lifts doesn't mean you are out of the woods; you have to psychologically build yourself back up when your stress level has not recovered. I was left with feelings of neglect, abandonment and having been deceived and not sure what was true of reality, or the meaning and purpose of life. I felt very devalued having been proselytized. The ideas were more important than my humanity. I think religion is inhumane and dangerous.

I grew up Pentecostal. When I was in high school, my cousin called frantic one morning. Well, hysterical would be a better word. Her parents let her sleep late while they ran some errands. But, when she woke up alone in the house she called my mom just knowing the rapture had happened and she’d been left behind. I always thought that was a terrible thing to do to children. I also laughed that she called my - guess she was pretty clear we would have been left, too. My other experience was watching people hide their addictions and perversions behind the cover of the church. It makes you lol “respectable.”

I am going to give this a listen as dealing with religious trauma is something I am dealing with, and I hope to be able to get a degree and become a counselor specializing in religious trauma. I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, so heaven and hell, as they are taught in mainstream christianity are not things I deal with, but all the guilt and shame, and the sins of thought, etc, are very heavily ingrained in JW children.

The fear of Hell and loosing your salvation is horrible

During my years immersed in religion, it never made me happy, it gave me a continual dark sense of foreboding. During the years in which I crawled back out of it, I would have loved channels like this one, but they either didn't exist back then, or I didn't know about them. What got me out of it was the gentle loyal support of my family, their love for me, despite the suffering I unwittingly caused for them.

You are so right. They truly have no clue & until they start to question things they will believe what they have had "beaten" into their heads over & over. It's all they know. It's scary but it's safe for them. I was raised in a Baptist home, family & church. My papaw & my uncle (mom's dad & brother) are Baptist preachers. They are genuinely good hearted people and truly believe what they have been taught through baptist Bible college. I'm 42 and was in church before I was born, when my mom was pregnant....I'm so happy and finally free after my deconstruction!! Religion is fear-based. I could say a lot more....but thank you for what you do! I love your channel! I'm the happiest I've ever been & I'm still a good person. I'm just free now!!❤🥰❤️❤️

Really appreciate the subject of Religious Trauma being discussed here. A lot of use have probably experienced this and still need to come to terms with it and this helps with terminology and resources. One aspect of Religious Trauma that I have been thinking through is how infighting between denominations creates Trauma. Having others insist that your particular church is damned and you have to follow their church to be saved is very nerve wrecking

The imminent, pretrib rapture doctrine troubled me more than the doctrine of hell as well. It's like a sword hanging over your head, ready to fall at any moment (especially given that our denomination taught that, if you missed the rapture, you wouldn't get a second chance). When my parents went out and didn't come back on time, I'd wonder if the rapture had happened (no cell phones in those days). I remember this happening once when there was a terrible thunderstorm, and I got so worried that I made up an excuse to call my pastor. I figured that if he was still around, I was okay. It seems humorous to me now, but it seriously scared me at the time.

There is a genuine medical condition called RTS and it has similar symptoms to PTSD...and most people who have been raised in a fundamental religion (myself included) suffer from some RTS. Good Video Derek. Keep posting the good vibes!!! The Richard Dawkins video was one of the FUNNIEST videos Ive ever seen.

Derek, I really appreciate your passion to help so many people with your videos

16 years of Catholic education. I loved the ritual and the bells and smells. I just didn’t believe the dogma by 8 years old. I remember arguing with a good nun and telling her it didn’t make sense. It still doesn’t make sense. I retained Mary as a role model but the rest…. Nah. I’m Buddhist now. Living the Corporal works of mercy without the nonsense.

Wow, good question! Did I suffer from religious trauma, I will have to say yes.

I have another: As a teen, I explored my sexuality as is normal, with myself amd my boyfriend (nothing harmful). I lusted after him. My conservative baptist church taught that even if I abstained from sex, I had still sinned in my heart and deserved to go to hell. As a result, I would refuse to take any pain medication for my awful menstrual cramps because I believed I deserved to be in pain from my sexual organs as they were the source of my "sin". Also...I have had trauma therapy, thank goodness.

Brilliant, comparing religion to addiction! Thats not occurred to me before. I used to drink too much. Rehabs, AA, jail...the whole thing. I've come to learn that religious shame was at the heart of my addiction. But this is the first time I've considered addiction and religiosity to be similar. Thanks for the insight!

Wow, I have never heard it like drug addiction from someone else before. I was never addicted to drugs, but I said that to myself after I left. It's like an addiction. It feels so good when you feel right with God and have that spiritual high, but then if you do anything to ruin that high like sin or feel like you aren't living for god, you crash so low emotionally. Not only that, but there are side-affects, even though religion feels good it makes you distrust others outside of the religion, it might make you withdraw from friends/family bc you think they're worldly, you lose who you are bc you're so focused on making God happy. It's a lot like the side-affects of drug addiction. Side note: so proud of you Derek!

This is an extremely important episode ... Thank you.

One of the best videos you've put out so far Derek. This one is SOOOO needed. And then dude comes out of nowhere with the DBZ reference, droppin anime knowledge as a metaphor for life, that just made my day! 😂 I'm done now, my day and my week couldn't be better lol. Thank you very much sir!

Religion trauma sufferer here. I was programmed by dogmatic parents then volunteered in my adult years to continue the co-dependent relationship with the church. Sixty years of persecution, shame, sacrifice, humility, judgement....received & given out. I don't know what pains me more, the prejudice I exercised against other's right to free choice, or the denial of my own Self's existence & right to choose. I love this interview. I was shouting, "Yes! Yes! Right on! Me too!" throughout most of it. I am now an Apostate/Humanist/Agnostic-Atheist who is in the best years of my life because I am at last living in the truth. I encourage those who are hesitant to break free, to study the origin of Christianity. I guarantee you will not be struck down by a bolt of lightning if you seek answers. No, you will begin the journey to loving yourself. You may, like me, feel extraordinary anger toward the church & want to bomb or sue the Vatican or some other prominent religious place but this is normal, & will pass. There is abundant life outside of the prison of religion where you are in control of your destiny.

I’m gay. My trauma is being alienated. I grew up in rural Missouri. I’m 47 years old and I buy every Bible I find in thrift stores to deconstruct with the most disrespectful art and language that I am capable of. Then I release them at the airport.

I have so many comments for this video. I can really resonate with this thread of thought ❤

Congrats Derek, I too suffered from drug addiction. I went to Brighton Hospital in 1992. Long story haven't done coke or heroin since. But I still suffer from Alcoholism. Trying to stop.

Mark Schatzker writes about eating and nutrition. His discussion of dopamine being the transmitter of wanting, drive. "Liking", the enjoyment of getting, is a separate system. Getting people in touch with the liking - slowly eating a very good dark chocolate - helped stop the urge to over eat. Does detox try to do something similar, find the simple, slow pleasures in life to overcome the wanting that is never satisfied?

One thing I love about this interview is, Derek saying we don’t need this and Dr. Darren saying prayer and the Bible aren’t going to heal you of this trauma. Man that is liberating. Ever since I came out of fundamental charismatic Christianity I’ve noticed my some religious trauma I’ve experienced and now I have set appointments to see a therapist for myself. The best decision I’ve made for myself was leaving this Bronze Age Mythology alone and living my life on my own terms. My family is mad as hell that I left, but for me its the best thing I’ve ever done. The world is so colorful and beautiful at the same time. Life is so good now. I hate these religious superstitions. Thanks so much for this video…

Buddha would say reality sucks period. Currently Uganda has passed laws that persecute people in the LGBTQI community. These laws include the death penalty In certain Islamic communities they justify Female genital mutilation. Then there's all the shaming of Jewish people as "Christ killers" which helped to create the Holocaust. Religious trauma is an international phenomenon. As a lesbian woman born in 1951 who had an alcoholic father, I experienced a lot of toxic shaming from him and the religious homophobia surrounding me in the 60's. I eventually got into Al-Anon which helped me recover from the emotional trauma I experienced and then went to 2 workshops on healing the toxic shame created by homophobia. I am finally comfortable in my own skin and have come to believe in a higher power that loves us unconditionally. Because of my own journey, I understand the stigma against addicts.

This was an excellent discussion from two compassionate men who are working to better the world... Thanks for walking and sharing your journey, guys.

My parents forced me to attend the Baptist church from an early age. When I was 12, my stepmom turned to me in the car one day and said in a nasty tone, "you are TOO OLD to not be saved!" I already had rejected the religion, but I knew if I didnt "walk down the aisle" and mutter something I didnt believe in the pastor's ear, she would make my life miserable. So I did, and then I had to be baptized. But I splashed in the water so much, made a right debacle of it, that my family were embarrassed 😂. And afterwards I said in my 12 y.o. mind, "do I think my sins are washed away?" I knew the answer was "nope, cause I dont believe I am a sinner!" They tried, but they didnt get me! Today i am a Pagan, and my family treat me like a cancer tumor 😢😅

I'm not an Atheist, but I am agnostic is best way to describe myself I guess. I believe in a creative God, but not the biblical God. It's more of a complete universal sharing of spirit

Thanks for showing us how some aspects of religion lead to trauma. I have had to greatly modify my beliefs in order to continue attending church because of these intolerant and hateful beliefs.

This stream make me think that i do have a religious trauma and that's why i'm constantly depressed and can't find a pass to find a real purpose of my life after i left Christianity 4 years ago. Thank you for bringing up this topic, because not all wounds are visible most of them are inner, that requires a lot work to undo the harm.

Have been waiting to hear more about religious trauma from the MythVision perspective! When I’ve talked about with people, it’s like they’re shocked that it’s remotely possible that religion can cause trauma. The average person still seems to think religion is the solution to trauma when it is absolutely not. In some cases sure, but it’s definitely not a magic button solution. Far from it!

Wow,. I have been so waiting for this. //17:25 "... if this thing is so pervasive ... but if it is coming out of evangelical, or conservative, or high control ... religious environments ... hopefully people are reexamining and saying 'maybe this thing isn't as good as I think it is, as wholesome as I think it is."// Exactly. However, that is a bitter pill for believers to swallow given that they have had over 2,000 years of telling themselves that:- 1. they have the God given truth on their side, and that 2. they are wise, healed, holders of truth, saved, righteous, Godly, joyous in the Lord, while 3. all others are foolish, sick, holders of lies, damned, wicked, Satanic, miserable and in bad need of saving. So to learn that their 'God given truth' that is supposed to bring all that is good to those who believe, actually causes deep harm to people, is hard to accept. IMO that is..

Thanks for sharing your addiction journey. We are all only human with all of our faults and shortcomings.

Brain hacks! I love it! I have a degree in sociology and know that ritual is an important part of culture. I have chosen to apply my need for ritual by acknowledging the seasons and nature as a part of my desire for ritual and expressing a sense of gratitude for my ability to observe and bear witness to the passing of time and the natural changes around me.

Would really love to know how many ex believers like myself struggle with meaning, who, having confronted the problem of pain and the abscess of free will, find life to be nothing more than a loosing struggle against suffering with no real hope of meaning. I am no longer able to tell myself a convincing story that makes the struggle worth doing. Only to try and make life as bearable for my children as possible, though they are damned to the same fate. Most atheists don't seem to have this world view. Do any of you?

I'm 69 years old dealing with religious trauma coupled with confirmation bias in theology . I've battled this for 30 years and have made progress.

Is it the main purpose of religion to make people feel bad? I often think so. A trauma free religion seems almost impossible.

The show "the good place" brings up a lot of good comedic situations relating to trauma.

There is definitely an addictive element to it. Also, what calmed my mom down a lot with it was when the churches turned on her over nothing.

Great educated discussion guys. Great information and content guys

My Son and youngest daughter would always lament that they were "scared of Jesus and His distraction".....my daughter died in December 2022 and I always think about how she felt about Jesus....😢

I love playing the devils advocate in arguments really helps draw out the truth I think.

Really enjoyed this video made a lot of sense and food for thought.

It helps to throw yourself in to work and hobbies and exercise

Great discussion, thank you

The sexual sin stuff really hits I rarely ever went to the altar though since I was so ashamed I didn’t want people to know that I had sinned and struggled as a youth and even still today I tend to just hide it which makes it all so much worse as well.

My experience was the opposite, I was being abused by my father and my pastor allowed me to live with him, but I went to the United Church of Christ which fundamentalists call heretics, apostates etc. So I don’t have a negative experience with Christianity. But I knew many of other religions who told me their experiences.

I've definitely got religious trauma

I have rapture anxiety and I don't even believe in the rapture anymore. I haven't for almost decades

You guys are so amazing! Everyone needs to hear this!

The Dawkins video was hilarious and also very saddening. Not sure how they thought that stuff like that would win him over and it contradicts what I was always taught about Christianity but I’ve really started seeing it in my friends and family recently as I’ve been deconstructing a great deal of my faith.

Thank you Dr Slade. & Derek. Keep up the good work!

That whole.. hate this life... The next life is everything ..thing. It's a great way to learn dissociation.

I have been clinically diagnosed with complex PTSD. I was sexually abused by my stepfather. He violently raped me from the time I was 5 till I was 10 went I finally told my mother. The nightmares are so fucking real and sometimes I can’t wake up no mater how hard I try! It’s fucking awful!

Thank you for this! I have been dealing with a lot since deconstructing and couldn’t exactly put words to it. This video gave me so much insight. Thanks

Great video.

Thank you for this!!! I have religious trauma. I don’t mind taking theology courses however they were courses that looked at the Bible as Literature not as a religious text I enjoy learning about religion I feel learning about religion and religions is worldly thing I don’t think it’s bad. I think it’s bad if you force people to be religious.

Damn Derreck I did not know you went that far into addiction. I’m glad you got off that stuff. I’m proud of you.

I think this video should be highlighted on your channel, as the one to watch before they watch any of your other videos. This really gives more background as to why you are doing what you’re doing and is also an amazing video because trauma is very common thing nowadays, there is trauma from many sources but one of the most quiet ones is religious trauma because it’s passed off as a normal thing, it’s okay. They can’t do wrong because they’re following god. I’m in a time right now where I’m realizing all of my trauma and this video has really helped me, it really made me realize how deep and serious this can get and now I know that I need help. That DBZ reference is gonna stick with me forever, I’ve been watching DBZ since birth but the way you painted that scene, really light up my brain. Frieza just outright murdered Krillin and Goku has a sudden realization that if he doesn’t do anything now, everyone is gonna die. I’m gonna choose to fight, I’m going to become the Super Saiyan that I never knew that I was before.

I may have been blessed, but pretty much in my 30+ years inside of indie/fundie land I never felt that burden of irreperable sinfulness. My teachers/pastors pointed me to Jesus who solved the problem of sin and loves me and receives me. I never had anyone tell me I had to be good or I'd go to hell. In fact, I was told I couldn't do anything to win or lose my salvation. That God loves me and provides a way to be with him in eternity, and forgives me when I sin in my new life. Of course, I never accepted the idea of the rapture. The Bible doesn't teach that. The Hope of Christianity is the Resurrection, not the Rapture, so I just ignored those sermons LOL But again, not many churches with a huge emphasis on end times. Now, I did sit for a sermon where we were informed that being a skater is rebellious and Christians shouldn't be doing skateboarding. Beards were also out, due to their association with rebellion. And a sermon where the pastor actually said DO NOT give to those who ask. *shrug* I'm glad I'm not in that world anymore.

Thanks so much. I know how you felt too. The higher power was the group of drunks. I just kept my views private some what, but I never spoke of god but only the group. They helped me, no prayers involved. I have problems with AA but there is nothing else in my area. I refer people to AA though I no longer go. Lots to think about. I have CPTSD and. Religious trauma also . Thanks again. ❤

"Rock bottom" - been there a few times. It's not a reliable motivation because it passes, and because CPTSD can turn into self harm and there is no better way of self harming than drug addiction. Better motivations for getting clean are, "I want something better than this", or, "I'm worth more than this". And you can't force someone to give up an addiction.The real addict can hunker down inside and wait for an opportunity to present itself, putting all its energy into waiting. Being unable to have the thing only hurts to the extent it does when you know it's available, but you can't have it. The times when it's not available, even if you had all the money in the world, the pain of going without it greatly reduced. I had so much fun going through amphetamine withdrawal while holding down a job in a warehouse, that I did it twice. Holy crap, but the addict inside is a slippery, deceitful and uber-manipulative f*cker. The only people who lie more than addicts are politicians and those whose religion prohibits them from seeing Israel's contemporary crimes.

I love metal music,i also have ocd and i use(d) to search obsessively every lyrical theme of every extreme bands i'd like to see if they talked about satan or stuff. I could not ear to listen to those bands,i felt like i was doing something unforgivable. Now i'm in therapy and my therapist listened to a Deicide song with me. I'm starting to care less and live more

Thank you so much for these videos 😊

What you are doing is necessary ❤

In 2007 i started having vivid auditory and visual hallucinations. I was becoming very religious or I would say hyper religious. It’s too much to type out but it was horrifying. I spent 8 months in mental health and I’m still on medication that I’ll be on for the rest of my life. I believe it all stems from my Pentecostal upbringing. The old school Pentecostal they were real strict. Hell was a big issue but I’ve come to believe that annihilation is biblical not eternity in a fiery torture chamber. I have intrusive thoughts of sin the worst being the unforgivable sin. The Church has failed people in many ways. I don’t go to church or read the bible anymore because of the intrusive thoughts. Over the years since I’ve become a preterist and my family don’t agree. They believe in the rapture I’ve told them I don’t but they’ve been saying it’s coming for the last 3 generations I can remember myself and it goes beyond my time.

When people finally figure out the gospels were written as metaphorical allegory and later literalized by Rome, it might all make more sense. But because people dont understand the OT, they were doomed to not figure out the NT.

Missed opportunity Derek shoulda said I get to take your visionity haha

A human did show up for u! Still the spiritual connection we can realize it’s that God speak true human. God is whit in us. You know….God don’t show up the way wee Imagine. I’m very whit you for most of it….I’m so happy I find this talk. I’m big religious traumatise and full of sadness.

Derek Unplugged (final segment) 😊

Derek is the best

The whole thing about how Christians have an addiction to God much like a drug addict is very interesting. It reminds me of the FLDS Doc and how the main face kept saying over and over “I NEED my religion” Fascinating

I disagree about seeing a trauma specialist to heal from trauma. You are stronger than you think you are. Listen to your body. You know what you need Not some specialist.

I grew up Catholic, so yeah . The whole religion is about guilt. Never once did I think I would make it to Heaven.

Wouldn't doubt PTSD is one of the outcomes

For the algorithm ❤

Thankfully that man upstairs has taken a hike😂 deconverting at 62.😅

Well, sure, if thinking lustful thoughts gets you a trip to hell, then why not get the full pleasure of it while you can. Threat of he'll makes some people miserable but doesn't seem to deter "sin".

I did their religious trauma course i highly recommended it!

I was a teenage convert to evangelicalism and not only myself but also my fellow teen peers in fundamentalist evangelicalism struggled mightily with the shame of being human. We fought to “deny ourselves”, “die in Christ”, “crucify the Old Man”, “live in the Spirit” … you know, not be human. What a waste

I intended to watch this video to get some reassurance and to confirm how silly these beliefs are but now I'm feeling anxious again about end times events and the possibility of hell.

One is to "Fear" God,..And Give "Glory" To It,..One Might Ask "Why"..And Promptly Traumatized For Your " Lack of Faith",..And Threats of "Damnation"..Yea,..Pure "Love" All Right

Dr. Edmund D. Cohen's book "The Mind of the Bible Believer" and Dr. Wendell Watters' book "Deadly Doctrine" examined these issues in the late 80s and early 90s long before they started to become more well-known through the work of Dr. Marlene Winell and Dr. Valerie Tarico.