Sir Ian McKellen Almost QUIT The Hobbit! 😲 | Gandalf Vs The Green Screen |

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Sir Ian McKellen Almost QUIT The Hobbit! | Gandalf Vs The Green Screen
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Step into the digital realm of filmmaking with our latest KZfaq Short, "Behind the Magic: Ian McKellen's Green Screen Battle in The Hobbit." Discover the emotional and technical challenges faced by Sir Ian McKellen, the iconic actor behind Gandalf, during the making of "The Hobbit" trilogy. Unlike the communal filming experience of the "Lord of the Rings" series, McKellen encountered a solitary struggle, acting alone against a green screen, guided only by photographs of his fellow cast members. This video delves into the profound impact that modern digital techniques have on actors, highlighting McKellen's dedication and resilience in overcoming these obstacles to bring Gandalf to life once more. Join us in exploring the unseen trials behind the cinematic magic and the incredible commitment of actors like McKellen to their craft.
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@dorinthompson1974 5 ай бұрын

He misses acting WITH people, I'm sorry Ian😭

@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627 4 ай бұрын

Sir Ian McKellen is one of the few actors that have genuinely made my life better just from his movie roles alone.

@simonbatch1989 5 ай бұрын

Sir Ian McKellen is an absolute legend similar to Christopher Lee and Patrick Stewart all just outstanding actors and whatever role they do you can tell how dedicated they are to the Role 😊

@seeemsee 5 ай бұрын

*role

@jeffv7160 4 ай бұрын

@@seeemseeget over it god

@bbslabaugh 4 ай бұрын

@@seeemseekiss off.

@Josh_J9 4 ай бұрын

@@seeemseeget a life 😂

@simonbatch1989 4 ай бұрын

@@Josh_J9 @seeemsee been overthinking about this for ages I've got adhd and dyspraxia thank you for sticking up for me I appreciate it 🤣 edit didn't realise it got 101 likes thank you 😊

@heinricho 5 ай бұрын

Totally understandable

@stevesmith9617 5 ай бұрын

He worried it wouldn't be as good.😢 That's a professional. This dude got to play one of the best villains and heros of modern English literature. And yes, I put magneto on that level. Eric lensure is a epic villian.

@user-uc6ez8wn9k Ай бұрын

Or maybe he just enjoys connecting with other actors on screen.

@Ralph_Roberts Ай бұрын

Erik Lensherr is not a villain. He's a freedom fighting hero. It's just... occasionally he's a bit much. Lol

@TinMan445 Ай бұрын

And he was right. The Hobbit sucks compared to the original trilogy.

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

@@Ralph_Roberts Magneto literally pushes for genocide and opression. He is 100% a villain. A villain can have a good point or good intentions and still be a villain. Villains often see themselves as the misunderstood good guy, but that doesnt make them one.

@Ralph_Roberts 28 күн бұрын

@matthewmaldonado9698 are you talking about in the comics? In the movies anyway, he doesn't want to oppress, he wants to stop mutants from being oppressed/hunted. Then they push him too far at times.

@adriannalockhart9639 15 күн бұрын

Sir Ian is one of the few shining lights in the Hobbit films. I'm thankful he didn't leave.

@Magnificent7Seven 5 ай бұрын

So glad he didn't quit!

@lathenhertel8564 5 ай бұрын

I found the Bag End scene to be one of my favorite of the trilogy. I truly appreciate the sacrifice Sir Ian made filming it.

@gohawks3571 2 ай бұрын

Bag End is beautiful, and the whole shire💚

@Sin05269 20 күн бұрын

Had to be rough not actually being able to interact with the cast in those scenes. I'm not an actor obviously but it probably sucks a lot of joy out of the experience when you're forced to talk to props and pictures in front of a green screen instead of real people

@nategraham6946 5 ай бұрын

He probably called upon all this frustration for then scene when Gandalf leaves the group before they get captured by trolls.

@briandeluca4318 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for never giving up…

@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627 4 ай бұрын

This dude is half my childhood between LotR and X-Men. Absolute legendary performances. It saddens me to know the day is ever closer.

@gohawks3571 22 күн бұрын

Makes you hope for Heaven so we can all meet up! Imagine, crossing over and being in the shire☺️💚

@brak1381 Ай бұрын

Who ever consoled him dealing with this, way to go. It seems very intense at this point in a legendary career/role to make such a pretty depressing change in the artistic landscape. One of my favorite all time characters.

@Cyber_Nomad01 5 ай бұрын

Probably why the Hobbit series of movies sucked compared to LOTR

@tummytub1161 5 ай бұрын

Every movie compared to the LOTR sucks 😂

@SixSioux 5 ай бұрын

Not probably, but surely. The issue as always is not CGI itself, but the use that big studios make of it nowadays.

@john.premose 5 ай бұрын

I know. To this day I don't believe I've ever sat all the way through any of the Hobbit movies.

@twitch3334 5 ай бұрын

The Hobbit movies fell short because they tried to take a 89,000 word book and stretch it out into 3 movies. The Fellowship of the Ring had almost twice as many words and was able to be portrayed in a single movie. The amount of bullshit they had to make up was ridiculous.

@liama2846 5 ай бұрын

@@twitch3334worth noting though that the first part of the Lord of the Rings book (known as the Fellowship of the Ring - remember LotR is one book according to Tolkien) does not correlate to the film called The Fellowship of the Ring. Massive chunks of the book are missed out and the end of the written format differs greatly to the film.

@tummytub1161 5 ай бұрын

I really hope Peter Jackson hurries up with the new Middle Earth project. Were already down one legendary wizard. Hopefully Sir Ian will arrive (precisely when he means to)

@gabrielaleactus9932 5 ай бұрын

Is there any news on this ? I heard that he was done making middle earth movies

@danmoar94 5 ай бұрын

Hurrying up is part of what ruined the hobbit films, though...

@melvynvanleeuwen6617 5 ай бұрын

I think we cant complain about the hobbit if you want to complain #ringsofpower😂😂

@markopusic8258 17 күн бұрын

@@melvynvanleeuwen6617Oh but we will, the fact RoP was a stain against entertainment itseld doesn't diminish the fact that the Hobbit movies were... lacking.

@kyleforbes8621 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Gandalf for staying truth 🙏🏼 😊

@abigailsosa4352 4 ай бұрын

He did absolutely wonderful! So grateful he kept going

@Pca32227 5 ай бұрын

Movies now are more about the money and less about art and passion.

@Ro-Ghost 4 ай бұрын

Its about portraying a realistic scale from a human to a dwarf, not sure if you know this but CGI is more expensive than hiring shorter actors And saying CGI isn't an art when there are CGI "artists" is a bit disrespectful dont you think?

@Fixatedwatcher Ай бұрын

@@Ro-Ghost Nonsense - forced perspective has been around for as long as the camera has. Go visit Camera Obscura in Edinburgh and you can see it with your own eyes, how do you think they achieved the original set of movies?

@Ro-Ghost Ай бұрын

@Fixatedwatcher if doing that was cheaper and or easier that method would be used

@Fixatedwatcher Ай бұрын

@@Ro-Ghost It was with New Line Cinemas! It worked like a charm. It was Warner Brothers that chose to make the idiotic decision to cut corners. Building a forced perspective set is not difficult or expensive. They did it back with Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory in the 1970's If anything the parts of the original trilogy which were that largest let down is when you could tell the Merry and Pippin actors were replacements.

@timharnans 2 күн бұрын

@@Ro-Ghost Gimli's actor was over 6 feet tall

@user-ww6ob3iz4x 2 ай бұрын

Wow. That is incredible dedication Great guy

@housnatoftkaer4721 22 күн бұрын

My favorite characters ❤❤😊

@liltimothy8109 5 ай бұрын

Aw man 😢

@theAEDan 5 ай бұрын

I wish I had so much money that deciding not to play pretend was an option.

@surfacepro3328 4 ай бұрын

Why didnt they do what they did in lotr? (Using perspective to make one seem smaller than another or something)

@twineweaver Ай бұрын

Peter Jackson actually explains this in the hobbit appendices. Basically he said with the way the lotr was filmed you were able to trick the camera, but since they were using 3D for the Hobbit, it would show the differences in depth so they couldn't do the scenes where the actors were just standing farther away/closer to the camera. They did still use the trick of using scale doubles in scenes where they were able to though!

@Pickleslip 5 ай бұрын

Ugh.. all the more respect to the man… Being able to still act despite not having interaction with actual actors…musta been hella depressing, almost torture like..

@Tennesseepipin1791 4 ай бұрын

The hobbit movies only suck because they were not thought though currently. And rushed. Taking no care to the true feeling of the book. Just jackson style movies. I will always love sir ian McKellen as gandalf. And really feel bad for him the way they did him in these movies.😢

@expertluck566 Ай бұрын

CGI is the only reason why hobbit movies are so bad

@zombieoutbreakprod Ай бұрын

@@expertluck566 it absolutely isn't but ok

@Fixatedwatcher Ай бұрын

It wasn't Jackson who was in charge of the movie bud. He was director for the final product but the blame lies solely with the Studio. They pushed Guillermo del Toro out and strong handed Jackson to take over.

@willadeefriesland5107 Ай бұрын

The very personification of the actor's tenant, "The show must go on."...

@Gwaithmir 4 ай бұрын

I certainly hope he had a chance to hang out with his fellow actors when a day's filming was over.

@Tier1GearEDCReviews 5 ай бұрын

Insanity!!

@TheForcesWrath 5 ай бұрын

Thats really sad to do that to people

Ай бұрын

I seriously doubt that he almost quit. Ian would never let a role defeat him, regardless how challenging.

@how_WUDE Ай бұрын

Im so glad he didn't quit. With as much hate has The Hobbit trilogy gets, I still enjoy them

@donniescarbro Ай бұрын

That’s why he wondered off a lot so they could give him a break from the role

@barbmck28 4 ай бұрын

Why didn't they just repeat what they did for Lord of the rings with forced perspective and the like?

@Samaru163 2 ай бұрын

To make a long story short: Warner Bros didn't give Jackson and his crew enough prep time to build the necessary sets for the forced perspectives, so to cut corners, they relied heavily on CGI. Jackson also wanted to experiment with new advancements in technology and camera work.

@Fixatedwatcher Ай бұрын

@@Samaru163 Spot on! and bloody infuriating. Wb has a habit of ruining franchises

@Shamwilder 4 ай бұрын

Aside from the bad acting on Thorins part and many wierd writing snafus I actually liked the hobbit series solely because I love Dwarves 😅

@christianrameka9749 5 ай бұрын

Gandalf the sassy

@michaelsmyth3935 5 ай бұрын

Gee, force a world class actor into a ridiculous situation.

@KingCasual1986 Ай бұрын

They should have alternated the film style or something. Sometimes it would be a green screen, others it would be this practical effect they used in the original LOTR trilogy to circumvent this issue.

@millerman7799 2 ай бұрын

Recording a lonely green screen performance with a classically trained actor, is just like recording the cello section for a Hollywood soundtrack in a small studio instead of a large hall with the rest of a huge ensemble, they do it for complete creative control and the "larger than life" epicness is the payoff in the final composition/mix. Everyone has to imagine stuff at some point in those enormous productions :)

@Brok3nC4rrot Ай бұрын

Thanks for putting two frames of interview into the short so that you could trick us into thinking we'd hear his opinion from his *own* mouth...

@bve7397 28 күн бұрын

Acting should be done together

@abookoholic6252 5 ай бұрын

Lmao you mean Tolkien never thought that teenage girls in the 2000s would write Logolas/Gimli smut??

@mbpm6135 27 күн бұрын

I wish he said no to this project though. Its clear to see for anyone that nothing could match up to the original trilogy and all attempts would just end up diluting the legacy.

@nataliasclarandi8204 Ай бұрын

Ian as Gandalf is the grandpa that every child growing up in the 90s & 2000s wished they had. If he had quit, the hobbit trilogy would have been dumpsterfire & only the lord of the ring trilogy would remain as his portrail of the wondering wizard.

@emdeejay7432 5 ай бұрын

I think greenscreen is way overused and real sets are way better.

@kevinhollis1229 4 ай бұрын

He really is the star of the series. Is he the only one to appear in all six films?

@Blackfyre_93 3 ай бұрын

Cate Blanchett is in all 6 also (albeit in a much smaller role).

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

@@kevinhollis1229 yeah Ive always thought of him as the true main character of it all, or the narrator (kinda like how C3P0 and R2D2 are for Star Wars, according to George Lucas) even though Andy Serkis did an amazing job I wish the LOTR and Hobbit Audiobooks could have been narrated by Ian Mckellen as hearing Gandalf's voice tell the story would have felt so fitting

@kevinhollis1229 28 күн бұрын

@@jovianmelendez there is a dramatized audiobook that uses the music and voice characterisations from the Peter Jackson movies. It's pretty good, and on KZfaq, but sometimes chapters are missing.

@theonewhoknocks6353 28 күн бұрын

Poor Ian, it must have been horrible. And as a theatre actor it's even worse because in theatre there are no green screens (obviously) so you always have people to talk to.

@Shatter149 2 ай бұрын

😢😢

@GhANeC Ай бұрын

So…everything “reportedly”…

@Legionnaire_625 5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be able to do that. You would essentially be acting on your own and that wouldn't sit well with me

@praisegod3267 14 күн бұрын

You can see the difference as well...

@AnthonySmith-gr8pf Ай бұрын

I never understood why they even meeded a green screen. They didnt need one in LotR for Bilbos home, why use one now? To save money? Thats a failure of those in charge of the budget.

@ClamMan1989 4 ай бұрын

They should have hired Glen Tennis instead.

@craemac Ай бұрын

Sir McKellen was about the only good thing about the Hobbit movie.

@TimeTheory2099 5 ай бұрын

Probably the same types of feelings 1900 stage actors had to 1920's film acting. Just guessing tho.

@Welverin 5 ай бұрын

Everyone should have quit that train wreck.

@thebadaids 2 ай бұрын

I often thought about how much money must have played almost the entire factor for actors like RDJ in the Marvel films. To be on set a great movie with great actors must be magic. With crazy good dialogue, not constant fake CGI effects post production. The fact that Sir Ian McKellen put up with another trilogy with even more of a souped up version of CGI and lonely work, I wouldn’t have blamed him one bit for not taking the role again. Are they fun to watch? Yes. Are the polished and more times than not come out looking great? Yes. But the constant green behind you, the 16 hour days, the hanging from cables and waiting half an hour for a 20 second motion and soundbite? Gotta be brutal. Yes, before the inevitable “ I don’t feel bad for millionaires” comments come in, I get it. But they got to where they were for a reason. They were living on scraps, at least most of them just to slowly build up their work in the industry. That takes pride and determination. They’re not just bots collecting a check. They shouldn’t be punished or treated like they don’t have legitimate gripes or issues just because they make money, especially when that money is based on being one of the best at something as highly competitive as acting. Hundreds of people at that same level compete for that role, and someone has to win it. They can complain all they want about how grueling the work, post production and insane hours after film they put into fan interaction, reporters and interviews to contractually promote the movie that they want to, in my opinion.

@TinMan445 Ай бұрын

And this is why the Hobbit and Rings of Power don’t even come close to the awe inspiring spectacle that Peter Jackson made. They’re cheap knock-offs at best.

@alexanderren1097 Ай бұрын

Why couldn’t they just film the same way they did the original trilogy?

@SpongeBob_funkopants23 Ай бұрын

I never knew he was gay until today

@namyac88 5 ай бұрын

way more expensive and not nearly as good….. still good but in a different ball park completely….. makes you wonder

@lawd.9829 5 ай бұрын

Sir Ian would DEFINITLY quit in day 1 if he was in The Rings of Power.

@11cabadger 3 ай бұрын

He would never consider signing that contract 😉

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

He would have quit upon reading the script lol

@devvoedm8_802 Ай бұрын

Man I would have quit that role just based on what an absolute insult the screenwriting was to the original text. Just a disgrace to Tolkien’s book.

@hapahapahappy Ай бұрын

He probably almost quit because he knew the films were going to suck. Kind of wish he quit actually.

@gentlebabarian 4 ай бұрын

He should have quit! Would have taught Peter Jackson a lesson to choose for greed!!

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

It was probably the studio that made the decision, not Peter Jackson

@toddwilkinson5474 4 ай бұрын

It shows, too. The Hobbit is a bloated, CGI mess way below LOTR standards.

@geraldstiling3735 4 ай бұрын

George Lucas's🧔🏼 sequels encountered the same problem " See that green screen. There's an epic space 🌌 battle..all your friends are fighting for their lives .Now Action,🎬"

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

George Lucas didnt make the sequels though? Do you mean the prequels?

@Uhtred-the-bold 2 ай бұрын

The green screen is destroying movie making.

@sprgeorge333 2 ай бұрын

Hobbit was doomed to fail at production :-/

@dereklong2072 2 ай бұрын

CGI is the worst.

@danmoar94 5 ай бұрын

It's ridiculous how poorky executed the hobbit trilogy was. I really don't understand why though after how near perfect the lotr trilogy was. Was it a budgetary issue or laziness?

@MrTwizzy 5 ай бұрын

It was not meant to be made by Peter Jackson in the first place. The Hobbit was supposed to be done by Guillermo del Toro. However after some pre production stuff went bad Toro gave up on the project and it was given to a reluctant Peter Jackson who then did as much as he could with as little time as he had. Not saying it couldn't have been better even with the unplanned director change but LOTR was made out of pure passion and had so much pre-production put in it. The Hobbit was made because money.

@danmoar94 5 ай бұрын

@@MrTwizzy well yeah you can very easily tell it was a cash grab. I'd rather see a lotr remake trilogy by del toro. The set designs would be bonkers! Imagine how genuinely scary he'd make mordor and minas morgal. If the wraiths were so evil they made minas ithil utterly terrifying to behold, imagine how scary sauron's own realm must be. Much more scary than just clouds and lava, that's for sure! And in the jackson movie, minas morgal was just a bit green. It looked more like the emerald city from the wizard of oz than anything else.

@MoldyMojoMonkey 5 ай бұрын

I feel bad for PJ with all the flak he gets for The Hobbit. Poor guy was never wanting to make them in the first place, ended up getting thrust into the job out of necessity, had barely enough time to do any pre production, then had to deal with studio interference. With ample time and planning, I honestly believe he would have made something that really complimented his LOTR trilogy.

@jklier66 4 ай бұрын

I'm so happy to see someone posting the correct answer!@@MrTwizzy

@d_no_allyn_86 Ай бұрын

Yeah that shit is garbage compared to Normal filming.

@KortneeLeFay 28 күн бұрын

I don’t blame him, The Hobbit was horrid 🙄

@zachhart6793 3 күн бұрын

He should have quit. Better off without those movies

@theHermitofEngedi 4 ай бұрын

Boo-f*king-hoo

@saymyname8925 16 күн бұрын

Those movies were shit

@timesthree5757 Ай бұрын

Look I don't care. I was in the army. I got shot at. He can get over it.

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

The fact that you went through something worse doesnt invalidate other peoples problems or feelings about said problems. Do you always make everything about yourself whenever someone tries to talk to you about their problems? Because I can assure you doing the "but I had it worse" does not help anyone, neither you nor the other person. It's not a competition lol

@timesthree5757 28 күн бұрын

@@jovianmelendez no, I just don't listen to the whining. "Shut the eff up, and get on with yer life."

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

@@timesthree5757 so you're just admitting to being an immature and inconsiderate self-centered asshole who only cares about yourself? Weird thing to be proud of but okay.

@HEADBANGER4LIFE37 5 ай бұрын

Toughin up dude, everyone has difficult jobs.

@The_Very_Tall_Midget 5 ай бұрын

🤯🥶🤡

@AspieMemoires 5 ай бұрын

Lmao bait troll who has no life and has to cry about it by projecting those negative emotions.

@theHermitofEngedi 4 ай бұрын

@@AspieMemoires if only people had real problems, like having to play pretend alone for a multi-million dollar payout.

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

@@theHermitofEngedi the fact that there are worse problems doesnt mean that youre not allowed to vent about or be bothered by a lesser problem lmao. Are people not allowed to feel frustrations about their workplace because there are other people who have it worse than them? Nobody is saying to start a gofundme for him lol just agreeing that the experience sucked.

@KingInk91 4 ай бұрын

Which magic of the films???? 😂😂😂

@bbb4228 5 ай бұрын

Those Hobbit movies are hot garbage outside of the first one

@jesseoreilly1792 4 ай бұрын

Every aspect or The Hobbit trilogy was a catastrophe compared to it's predecessor trilogy. Both in the making of it, and in the result.

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

Not just compared to, theyre just bad movies in general. You can feel that the script is a smaller story bloated into three even without reading or knowing of the book.

@Phoenixguy357 5 ай бұрын

Honestly i wish he had quit so then more people would realize how garbage the hobbit movies are even if you try to watch a supercut. I genuinely find it unwatchable anytime the dwarves are on screen

@jovianmelendez 28 күн бұрын

What do you mean so more people would realize the movies are trash? Nearly everyone agrees that the movies are trash, even with nostalgia it hasnt been able to get the fanbase that the Star Wars prequels have garnered. The fact that they suck is the general consencus.