Sirui: Saturn or Venus? The Difference Explained

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Matt Spade

Matt Spade

2 ай бұрын

Sirui offers affordable anamorphic lenses for both APS-C and full-frame cameras. In this video I want to compare the difference between the Saturn and Venus series of Sirui glass.

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@doeme01709
@doeme01709 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I've been looking everywhere to find a comparasion of these two lenses
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision Ай бұрын
I was too! I kinda fell into this review when I was sent the wrong lens, the Saturn. Before I returned it, I had the Venus in my hand and decided to do a short comparison to see which one I liked better. I’m so glad this accident happened because I ended up, loving the Saturn much more! Cheers!
@westwoodmanorfilms7779
@westwoodmanorfilms7779 15 күн бұрын
Me as well. Thnx.
@connornyhan
@connornyhan Ай бұрын
The Venus' design is synchro focus, the anamorphic elements are moving. That means its a 1.6x squeeze at infinity, but like 1.45 or 1.5 at close focus.
@gothamindembaum
@gothamindembaum Ай бұрын
Exactly. He was wide open thus…
@connornyhan
@connornyhan Ай бұрын
@@gothamindembaum aperture has nothing to do with it, it’s minimum focus vs infinity
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision Ай бұрын
It’s still a pain in the rear when paired with the Saturn 35 to try and fix the squeeze based on focusing distance.
@BootStrapTurnerVideography
@BootStrapTurnerVideography 18 күн бұрын
Have a set, paired with the 1.25x adapter the squeeze becomes a consistent squeeze throughout the entire focus range.
@connornyhan
@connornyhan 17 күн бұрын
@@BootStrapTurnerVideography only with the 1.25x adapter though since it features a variable diopter focus system.
@nwonomad
@nwonomad 24 күн бұрын
Thanks, great job man... I think you just saved me from making a massive mistake
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision 23 күн бұрын
This is so good to hear! I’m sure the Venus line shines at focal length like 100 but I’m happy with the Saturn at 75. Cheers!
@pats_seidl
@pats_seidl 28 күн бұрын
thank you finally there s a comparison!
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision 28 күн бұрын
Awesome! I hope it helped!
@Zlatan_videos
@Zlatan_videos Ай бұрын
Thank you for video. As beginner who is interested in anamorphic I found this so useful.
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you so much!
@robertsakowski
@robertsakowski Ай бұрын
Thank you, thats very interessting!
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision Ай бұрын
My pleasure and thank you.
@uncleronnie589
@uncleronnie589 2 ай бұрын
venus has a inconsistent squeeze ratio across different focal distances which they fixed in the saturn
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision 2 ай бұрын
I thought I heard that from various reviews so this is good to know. Cheers!
@gothamindembaum
@gothamindembaum Ай бұрын
@@mattspadesoundandvision yet Serui claims the Venus is more "professional". Weird
@lime61
@lime61 Ай бұрын
This is the answer
@whyjaywonders
@whyjaywonders Ай бұрын
As they are using planet scale, Saturn lens should be heavier. Just saying...
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision Ай бұрын
Haha! This is true! Love it.
@Alecaom
@Alecaom 13 күн бұрын
THANKS!!!! :D
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision 11 күн бұрын
Sure thing!
@gothamindembaum
@gothamindembaum Ай бұрын
It’s a shame that the 2x adapter looks so ridiculous on the Saturn.
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision Ай бұрын
This is good to know because I was considering it but haven't used it yet.
@gothamindembaum
@gothamindembaum Ай бұрын
@@mattspadesoundandvision it has the same diameter as the Venus. Honestly I can’t expect to have a portable 2x squeeze solution it’s not realistic I think if I ever want that in a scene it’s a given that the Venus + adapter work great except for the squeeze variance at and near MFD. which is fixed in the Saturn. Odd that Sirui never explains or discloses this in their marketing. I like the products and the company don’t get me wrong. I would never schlep the Venus and adapter around causally is my point. For that the Saturn is incredible. I had it on my A7CR 50mm and did walk around cinematic photography all day walked five miles it slung around my neck and shoulder and was inconspicuous compared to numerous popular GM Sony spiritual lenses it looks like it should be an ASPC lens. Another thing to consider is using their ASPC anamorphic lenses on a FF camera in Super35 video crop mode. I think you would get the low light performance of the FF sensor, the increased focal length effect, and even lighter lenses that perfectly fit the smaller SONY or S5iix bodies. The possibilities are stunning in this day and age we are lucky AF.
@swolodkin
@swolodkin Ай бұрын
This video came at a perfect time for me. Now that I have the BMCC6K, I'm ready to get some affordable anamorphic glass. From your examples I can clearly see that I prefer the Saturn over the Venus. Now I just need to decide if it's blue or neutral flares. Personally, I really like the blue - but when shooting for clients it could be a problem. In any case, thanks for the video - I was hoping someone would help me out with some examples, your video was just the ticket.
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision Ай бұрын
This is great to hear. I love it! I went through the same decision and luckily fell into a scenario where I was sent the wrong version. I had some time wth both on hand to try out. I love the Saturns and will probably add the 50mm eventually. Thank you again for this, and that you're going to love that BMCC. Keep us posted on it.
@swolodkin
@swolodkin Ай бұрын
But before the anamorphic, I need to find a solid standard zoom (~24-70mm). I'm struggling with this because the very fine Sigma Arts aren't stabilized unless I go back to adapting the older gen DG OS HSM from EF or F. Further complications arise considering I have a set of inexpensive Rokinon DS primes which are Nikon F (which work fine), but if I simply adapt the Art OS lens, I will lose the electronic functions, but keep the OS. If I try and save the electronics, I have to spend another $$ on an active EF to L adapter. And then there's the Panasonic S and S Pro which also have issues. Do you have any experience with this apparent quagmire? Am I too concerned with getting stabilization, do I really need the electronic functions?
@BootStrapTurnerVideography
@BootStrapTurnerVideography Ай бұрын
Dipping my toes into Anamorphic. What would you recommend to start with, acquiring a single lens at a time as budget permits, 35mm, 50mm, 75mm or larger? I suspect 35mm to start, but would love your opinion. Probably bundle the SIRUI 1.25x Anamorphic Adapter with the first lens purchase to make it 2x de-squeeze, probably improving the bokeh.
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision Ай бұрын
That's a great question and it really depends on what you're shooting and what distance you have between camera and subject(s) The 35 is more like a 22mm, the 50 like a 31mm and the 75 will give you more a focal length of a 47mm. You can get magnification dioptors for well under $50 for these that'll allow you to get closer toy our subject, but the background will be completely blurred. I think the 35 & 75 make a great combo but I started with the 35. Hope tatb helps! Thanks!
@gothamindembaum
@gothamindembaum Ай бұрын
Why does the Venus seem warmer and more contrasty. do you know the squeeze factor is smaller when you focus closer? is that not happening on the Saturn? But it is on the Venus?
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision Ай бұрын
Supposedly the squeeze factor on the Venus changes based on focus distance. It also is a bit warmer. For me, already shooting on the Saturn 35 the 75 in Saturn pairs better.
@thiagolimadop
@thiagolimadop 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. I shoot with 35mm saturn and 150mm venus and they match.
@mattspadesoundandvision
@mattspadesoundandvision 2 ай бұрын
That 's great to hear, as I was considering the 150. Thnak you.
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