Back to the Future 3 is one of the few happy futures!

Yes, but Gene was absolutely correct...its a satire and there is no shame in laughing at the jokes Now I didn't care for the movie because it just wasn't funny, but Gene definitely won the argument

K Doherty agreed though this was one of those odd discussions where it feels like two people are actually agreeing but there is a misunderstanding somewhere along the way.

Woke Roger vs Red Pilled Gene

@Jimmy Polio - Roger's wife (widow) is black, so I imagine the white guilt ran deep. No matter how funny that movie is, he likely felt guilty while laughing. If it's funny, laugh your ass off and enjoy yourself.

@@socalastarte6727 You do realize most red pilled men are with Asian or Hispanic women. Fix yourself fix love

We still have family movie night at my house. But you're right. There was just something about having to leave your house and actually go out to get a movie, and knowing you'd better choose wisely or your night was shot. And what was great about video stores was you could get everything there. They sold popcorn, soda, candy as well as the movies. However, modern life does have its compensations. You couldn't lug your TV and VCR with you when you had to go on an emergency trip, or if you had to spend a few days in the hospital. But now I've got my Fire tablet and I can watch a movie wherever there's wifi! Beat that, 1990s!

It’s convenient just because you don’t have to go anywhere but it’s harder to browse and a pain to use. Plus It’s expensive to rent and the selection ain’t as good

it's an embarassment of riches we have now.

Easily Gilliam's best film, and the best film with the involvement of any Monty Python members since the Monty Python films.

Be like me. Buy it.

Time Bandits is fun

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Not Academy Award winner yet

He was great in From Dusk Til Dawn.

He's still Clooney from Golden Girls

@@KZfaq-tied His best performance.

Brandon Sugiura I know this is a very old comment but I want to say I agree nowadays critics don't really go into much detail or their personal feelings or even discuss like they did about racial issues satire what counts of satire the death penalty of course in other movies and I really miss that I miss critics who weren't afraid to say what they actually really felt about a movie and not be afraid that you know they're going to get back last or they're going to be seen at something bad

He definitely got the better of Ebert in that argument, which was sorta rare on the show.

He kind of nailed racial bias 25 years before it needed to be.

And P.S. Don't Be a Menace STILL holds up to today and it is still funny.

@@FurEngel absolutely

@@xxcrysad3000xx When Ebert asked Siskel if he would have been OK with such a film about Jewish people, he should have just said "How many times has Mel Brooks done it?" and left it at that. I'm usually with Gene, but Rog was right here.

Ian Texas Roger felt strongly about blacks. His widow is black.

Ebert felt white liberal guilt and called the movie racist even though it was written by black people

Me too! Loved the ending where Siskel just had to get the final word in on DBAM or at least he thought it was the final word....

@@borednow5838 Big Boy (and he really was an overgrown, temperamental boy) had to add his gratuitous 2 cents. Siskel dismissed him like a boss.

@@babymammoth34 Don't care about his appearance just that he was a good film critic and I enjoy listening to him and Siskel.

@@borednow5838 Neither do I actually, lol. Just felt like a being a harsh wise ass. But his behavior was utterly unacceptably rude and pompous at times. Still for the most part, I enjoyed these guys and what they contributed to film criticism. At least they were authentic and relatable unlike so many professional critics today.

@@babymammoth34 I don't think so, watching them since 1988, that was mild, but Gene Siskel was absolutely correct

As Gene said: It's like two different movies, and the first half was better.

Started so good. It then throws itself in the garbage disposal!

They’re right though. That beginning scene with the liquor store clerk and ranger is one of the best acted back and forth scene in history. Michael Parks was sooo good.

Yeah, it was a pretty cool watch.

No such thing as a guilty pleasure

It's funny because your serious about that

@@danieldelewis2448 Good dialogue you created there. Did you have contrary beliefs and if so would you like to voice them? Or was your endgame just to belittle my point of view? They are literally describing the current atmosphere at a comedy club.

Even more now

It almost made me emotional 😆. It brought me back to my childhood

Reminds me of the music of David Sanborn. Pure sax-laden cheese.

cpmenninga Easily.

Spoilers weren’t really a thing to get upset about at this time It was understood to discuss a movie you had to discuss it w details Social media led to omg spoilers mentality today I’d argue it’s even worse when people binge a whole show in one night then want to discuss it not w insight or critical analysis it’s either the biggest piece of shit ever made or the greatest thing ever Back when shows like this aired if a plot point was discussed it made you want to see the movie more What how did they pull that off kinda thing Again no one cried over spoilers Today you watch a movie review from a KZfaq personality it’s not an analysis of a film but dissection of every character every Easter egg reference the political and cultural inclusion of this or that Some of those things are fine but I don’t need a two hour review of a hour and half film about a superhero

@@seanodeli7031 That’s why I didn’t use the word spoilers, I used to watch Siskel and Ebert reviews in the late 90s and hated the fact that they gave away huge plot points. I didn’t need social media or the Internet to tell me that I like being taken by surprise when enjoying a movie with twists

Well yeah. They didn't have the internet to dogpile them with complaints and death threats.

Spoilers are a new thing that came with the rise of the big TV shows. Back in the day you didn't watch or read reviews if you wanted to go into the cinema and be surprised. The good old days, for me anyway

Except 95% of film reviews on youtube are by geeks and other complete idiots. These two were professional journalists and film historians.

@@deckofcards87 Yeah, they were almost as solid as Pauline Kael and Leonard Maltin. Almost. Those two had far better manners than Ebert, by the way.

Pauline Kael sucks.

Yeah weird they had to see it twice tho, I saw it once in theatres and I was riveted, and bought it on DVD 4 years later.

No reason not to!

I think the fact that they both said they had to see it twice sums up why they likely didn't get too into it. It's a lot to get into.

Makes me really wish he woulda made the man of la mancha

I thought it was well written yet boring.

One of my top 10 Sci-Fi movies ever.

"One of these films is not like the others. One of these films just doesn't belong."

I forget how good the senior wayans brothers were in the 80s and 90s.

Home Alone 3> Home Alone 2

+Foreverlasting Films For the sake of irony, I'm willing to take seriously that statement. I haven't seen HA3 since its theatrical run, but I don't believe it's better than deux. The caliber of talent in 2 cannot be denied (Rob Schneider, Brenda Fricker, Jon Heard). 3 has hardly anyone. Catherine O'Hara didn't even show up for her check.

I love HA3.

With Hollywood today just remaking films over and over with everything computer enhanced I'm glad S&E are no longer around to see this trash.

@@sun622 Agree. But maybe they'd call it out more for how bad it's been.

I love that movie and I had the pleasure, earlier this year, of watching it with my teenage son who had absolutely no idea what the film was about. It was really cool seeing his shock at the turn point, which when you have no idea - a position which is hard to be in with any movie, especially if you see any advertising or media coverage of films etc., but certainly an enviable position for a movie such as this, and a joy that I hope any parent can share by not giving away any clues for films like this. Dusk till Dawn was definitely one of the flicks that made me completely stop watching adverts or other media previews for features that I was pretty much certain I would watch at some point!

Listening to them say "pictures" makes me feel inadequate when I say "movies," like it's slang.

​@@Jamal3.87Yup.

ikr I was like ur giving away the ending to eye for an eye. I never saw it. but they were terrible at that. they flat out ruined the twist by simply saying she didn't do what she intended the whole film that tells me she doesn't kill him.

@@deathgrinderb3284 These two do spoil a lot of movies. But in Eye for an Eye, while they almost spoil it, their depiction is at least a little vague and leaves you guessing. They've done worse on other movies in regards to late spoilers.

Agreed. Ebert was as thick as shit there, couldn't get his big mouth head around that. Shame.

Yup. I agree.

Yes, as president they elected this sordid little incubus who looks like a granny.

I'm from 2020, and it's even WORSE here.

@@rumrunner8019 yeah, they're not going to believe how bad it can get.

Hi there. 2021 here. Yeah, it's worse.

Yup.

The irony is that normally it's the other way around, and Siskel is the one poo-pooing likeable movies while Ebert gives them thumbs up "because he enjoyed it".

Fuck Siskel.

"Menace" is not satirizing the good movies that it mimics, it's using the familiar images from those movies to satirize racist stereotypes. Ebert often said he judged a movie based on context, in this case he needed to zoom out just a little bit more, just a little bit, and he would have seen a vaster forest for the trees.

Haha. Yeah, Roger was a little hard on this one, but he was correct. If anyone white was associated with this film, it would instantly be a racist exploitation picture. The only reason we laugh at it is because it's black people making fun of themselves for a change. I found it funny, but probably for the exact reasons Roger mentioned. 9 out of 10 times I agree with Roger's reviews, especially on anything "serious", but he often doesn't like light hearted comedies.

@@ernestolombardo5811 this movie isn't satire because it doesn't have anything to say besides aren't black stereotypes funny.

Now we know why

we got donkey p****

Yup.

I know some of Mel's movies but not a lot. In What movies does he lean into offensive Jewish stereotypes?

Raaid Cotman-El mostly his depiction of the Jewish people in Passion of the Christ. Then about a decade ago...? Not sure exactly when, he went on a racist tirade to a Jewish cop. Something like that. I didn’t google to refresh my memory

@@raaid22 Mel satirized various Jewish stereotypes in: *1.* "The Producers" *2.* "History of the World Part 1" *3.* "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" *4.* "Spaceballs" This is not necessarily a comprehensive list; and obviously, such stereotypes are only "offensive", to those who choose to take offense.

You’re thinking of Mel Gibson dawg. Mel Brooks is the Looney Tunes, Spaceballs guy.

@@jerrisgilbert5256 I already told him that.

Yup.

has to be pg13 and has to have the approval of communist China

@@mikeperry7335 They only want PG 13 movies and dense action films. John Cleese got shit for saying this and he didn't deserve it.

Eye for an Eye couldn't be toned down I mean they did the best they could by not showing the rape scene but it was what it was it happens every single day almost in this world to shy away from it would Naive it didbother Kiefer though I heard he almost walked off set but the girl who plays the 17 year old convinced him it was ok and he lso I read he had to seek therapy to keep Doob out of his head after t he film wrapped and its more than a vigilante film once he soughtt out the little one Megan the mother has to kill him she has no choice she did try to back out but then all bets were off she could not risk her baby

and I compare it to the Chrissy scene in Jaws not seeing it in a lot of ways is even more terrifying and horrific especially now as an adult with girls of my own (nieces) but i feel as they are mine I watched that part the other night and was literally pulling my hair going Lord Pls make it stop its almost merciful when he hits her on the head with the ice sculpture and what made it worse was her mother on the other end of the phone Helpless and then when the mother is running inthe stopped traffic begging screaming for help and nobody cares its horrendous her crying and whimpering into the phone is unbearable I do not cry at movies and her saying Mommy help or whatever almosst broke me down the other night

When I first took interest in film and analysis, Ebert was my guy, but as I have gotten older, I find myself liking Siskel more and more.

White guilt is a myth created by insecure people:)

White guilt over a movie written by black people yet he called racist lol

Yup.

Don Jones Agreed.

Lol you should check out peter jackson's earlier work before the mid ninties

Eye for an Eye is terrible and exploitative

Yeah. I wanted to like it. I love horror movies. The problem was it was a shitty horror movie. The writing turned infantile.

Wait, are you saying he was a hero in 24?

@@cpmenninga - A little Sarcasm?

@@cpmenninga Jack Bauer was a hero sometimes you have to bend the law to do whats right as was Doc Scurlock in the young guns movies as the law back then was on the side of the criminals and he also plays Athos the head Musketeer in the 1993 disney version with Charlie Sheen and Oliver Platt LOL but Doob he is not just a bad guy he is a sick not mental but sicko evil monster Sally had to do what she had to do especially when he made contact with her littlest girl to me this went way beyond vigilante not that i am against that sometimes there is no other option when the system fails us we have to defend our own they did not like this movie because it was reality staring them in the face not an escape like a lot of movies heck it even bothered Poor Kiefer at one point he almost walked away he also needed counseling after the movie he had a young girl of his own and a stepdaughter they were possibly the same ages as the girls in this movie maybe a tad older not sure

Yup.

@@aprilgosa5779_ Thank You for Your Comment.

It’s just that in movie theaters people are always on their iPhones now. It drives me nuts.

Forgot about his wife.

Ebert feels white guilt over a film he calls racist that was written by Black people

Youbetcha I'd recommend it, it's just different.

@@UxCANxDOxIT If it's written by Tarantino, it can't be too bad.

Actually, he also had his niche "smart,romantic loner dude" roles. Young Guns, the Cowboy Way. Flatliners. There were quite a few more than those 3.

Yup. He was so good at playing those kinds of parts.

His father, Donald Sutherland has been one of my favorite actors going back to the 70s with MASH, Kelly's Heroes, Don't Look Now.