Six Zero Black Diamond and Double Black Diamond Pickleball Paddle Review by Pickleball Effect

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Pickleball Effect

Pickleball Effect

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Six Zero is doing things differently. They are one of the first to come out with a new technology they are calling Carbon Edge Fusion Tech. This new addition adds more power, spin, and forgiveness. Check out our review of the Six Zero Black Diamond and Double Black Diamond to see if they have the right paddle for you.
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00:00 - Paddle Description
02:32 - Shared Characteristics
04:38 - Black Diamond Playtest
05:34 - Double Black Diamond Playtest
06:46 - Comparison to CRBN X Power Series
08:09 - My Recommendation
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@jimwaldemarsen472
@jimwaldemarsen472 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. I'm really anxious to see what 2023 holds for new paddle technology. You're going to have your hands full with all the new paddles coming out. I'm glad you have a part of the review talking about what effect lead tape has on the particular paddle. I like what lead tape brings to any paddle. I'm already looking forward to your next review. Thanks again.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Ha I'm nervous about how many paddles are coming out. I'm going to have to be more selective this year, it's a lot of work.
@davidj7516
@davidj7516 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time. Great review, nice quality video. That lady has a great serve.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, I'm glad it was helpful. Both of these paddles are supposed to go back up for sale on Six Zeros website in the next few days. Use code 10EFFECT if you're interested in them for a discount.
@JoshuaKeel
@JoshuaKeel Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! I really liked how you explained what groups of players would benefit from these paddles.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I’m glad it was helpful!
@Atom_2718
@Atom_2718 Жыл бұрын
Another great review, thanks. I appreciate that you incorporated the comparison to the CRBN 1x 16mm. With the wave of new raw carbon paddles out from CRBN, Six Zero, Legacy, Vatic as well as others to follow, it would be great to see some sort of multi-paddle comparison chart that ranks each on a few criteria, especially if it also had a popular category-leader paddle as a baseline. Perhaps something similar to the charts you included in your SLK Halo review write up? Personally, I would love to see those kind of charts for each of the three categories of paddles you reference on your site (control, all-court, power). Lastly, I would love your thoughts on the 14mm versions of the CRBN 1x and the Vatic (only two I know of that have 14mm versions) and how they compete in the power paddle category. I just got the 14mm 1x and although I have only played with it for about 3 days, I do like it so far. It would be helpful to hear your thoughts, especially as someone with more experience and a broader array of comparisons. I also know you have to be selective in your choice of reviews, thanks again!
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I'm interested in that too. I'm talking with Legacy and Vatic and hope to get their paddles soon so I can hit them all and compare. I imagine they will all be similar but with some nuances like we saw with the wave of raw carbon paddles last year.
@martinblanc5863
@martinblanc5863 Жыл бұрын
Great Review. On your written review, you had the DBD at 86 for control/feel and 83 for power. You said you added lead tape to the DBD (shown in the picture of the written review) and I was wondering what is the new number for control/feel and for power with the lead tape? Thanks
@PickleballWill
@PickleballWill Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Brayden! Im fiending for these ones 😅
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I was pretty into the BD, I wonder if it plays similar to the Legacy. Legacy is out of stock and can't get one to me for a while.
@sashagirl357
@sashagirl357 Жыл бұрын
Your reviews are always helpful and I really appreciate the comparison with the new CRBN1X, which is a paddle I'm interested in. Will you be reviewing the Legacy Pro 16mm anytime soon? It also uses the "unibody" technology and I was wondering how it would compare with the Six Zero and CRBN1X paddles.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I don’t have a Legacy paddle yet, but have one in order when they are back in stock. Lots of interest around it so I’ll probably do a full review.
@gao57009
@gao57009 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another thorough and well thought out review. Another reviewer commented that he thought because of the way the perimeter carbon strip is fused to the face, it allows for some degree of flex as opposed to a one piece wrap. He also felt that because of that, there seems to be a break in period as the flex seems to increase a little. Is that something you felt too?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
There is definitely a difference in how these played using the carbon strip fuse rather than a 360 degree wrap. I'm not sure if there was a break in period but I certainly got used to the feel and they seemed softer to me overtime but I still thought they maintained the same power as they did out of the box.
@ddyoder
@ddyoder 11 ай бұрын
Great review. Thanks for putting it out there -- I snagged the 16mm SixZero DBD and can't say enough good things about it. For me, I'm used to adding lead tape to my paddles to create some stability/control but this was the 1st paddle I haven't added any tape to. Pure stock configuration has been great. The spin is top tier (at least for H1'2023), sweet spot is huge, and the slight drop in power over pure power paddles is negligible and I like the handle length + low swing weight of the DBD out-the-box.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 11 ай бұрын
Good summary! Thanks for the comment.
@kimleith1378
@kimleith1378 Жыл бұрын
Great review and super comprehensive. Interesting to see fiberglass being brought into the face material again. Curious how it will hold it's spin life compared to carbon. A magnified image might give some insight to this.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
So far it’s held up just well. I haven’t noticed or heard any reports from anyone that suggests otherwise.
@jamese.spivak4170
@jamese.spivak4170 Жыл бұрын
7:37 TOE IN THE KITCHEN! Great review, thanks!
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
No way, not even close ha
@jamese.spivak4170
@jamese.spivak4170 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballeffect I meant your opponent xD
@rich3419
@rich3419 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. Thanks.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@johnsanders3501
@johnsanders3501 Жыл бұрын
How would you compare the pop vs Engage Pursuit? Was leaning toward the raw carbon as a replacement to my pursuit but you mentioned the fiberglass had more pop. I feel if the double black has similar pop to the pursuit I would pick the carbon for all the other control advantages.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
The original pursuit series and the Black Diamond have similar power ratings but the new Pursuits probably have similar or less power than the DBD 16.
@cmpoonyynful
@cmpoonyynful Жыл бұрын
As an amateur player, durability is the no 1 factor for consideration. I have a Joola Hyperion 14 mm paddle, delamination and surface carbon fiber peel-off start very early after purchase, and Joola said it is normal.
@rx4095
@rx4095 Жыл бұрын
What did you end up going with
@ametis38
@ametis38 Жыл бұрын
Which one u have? the CFS, CGS, or CAS?
@dominionn09
@dominionn09 Жыл бұрын
Just placed an order for this paddle. Thanks for the review!
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’m glad I could help :)
@romanhernz3839
@romanhernz3839 Жыл бұрын
When you have a chance do a review regarding PowerDrive paddle manufactured in Naples Florida I have and love it.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Have you had a chance to compare it to the Diadem Warrior? They look very similar.
@mhamberg
@mhamberg Жыл бұрын
Did you experience any major changes with the paddle as you broke it in over the first few weeks? I just got one and am in love with it, but not sure what to expect as it breaks in. Any significant change in spin/power from when it was new as it has worn?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I actually thought it got a little softer over time but I've heard others say they thought it would hit harder though many of them were probably just experiencing a little crushed core or delamination issue.
@slackersc11
@slackersc11 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Did you add any lead tape to the top of the double black paddle? Or just the sides?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Just the sides
@chaseprovencio2571
@chaseprovencio2571 Жыл бұрын
Vatic Pro is #1💪🏼
@paulj.cherol2691
@paulj.cherol2691 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I'm think I narrow down my next paddle to either the 6.0 BD, 6.0 DBD 14mm or the Vatic Flash 14mm. Any recommendations on these 3? How would you rate the Power, Spin and Control of the 3? Thanks, Peace!
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
6.0 BD hits the hardest, then F14, then DBD14. For control, the 14mm are about the same and then the BD. All are big on spin though technically the two 14mm get higher RPMs on serves and drives.
@paulj.cherol2691
@paulj.cherol2691 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballeffect Cool, thanks a lot for the info! Kinda of what I thought, now I just need to sleep on it and pick a paddle. Peace!
@tracyheller9494
@tracyheller9494 Жыл бұрын
Hey Braydon, have you played with the 14mm double black diamond paddle? Most reviews that I see are on the 16 mm, wondering how the 14mm double black and the 16mm compare?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I haven’t yet :/. I’ll get one in about a week and a half though.
@josephhengoed7646
@josephhengoed7646 4 ай бұрын
Love the review! Are you able to use a cleaning rubber on the BD as it is a composite (most say only to use for raw carbon)
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I use one with it and haven’t had any issues.
@Skrimpz562
@Skrimpz562 Жыл бұрын
Hi again, besides the Black Diamond are there any other paddles that have a non carbon fiber face with a good amount of spin you would recommend? I am considering ordering the black diamond but am also interested if there are other paddles that could have longer spin life potential compared to paddles with carbon fiber face. Thank you again.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
The Selkirk Power Air paddles have good spin without raw carbon fiber, but their stuff wears out too. The only paddle I can think of that has longer spin potential than raw carbon are the Gearbox CX14 paddles. Gearbox uses their core to apply spin and doesn't totally rely on grit so the spin potential lasts longer.
@derricksumampong2236
@derricksumampong2236 Жыл бұрын
Have you played with the legacy pro? If so, how does it compare? Also, whats your rating? Guessing 4.5?? Nice to see someone pretty solid do a review. Hahaha i go to paddle reviews and its hard to take some input seriously from those who arent as good at the game. No offense, feel like it gives more credence to what is being said. Haha just ranting, idk what im trying to get at 😂 Anyways,nice video and review!
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have one of the new Legacy paddles and have played with it quite a bit. It’s similar but something about the balance of it is off to me, I prefer the DBD 16. My Dupr is always fluctuating but it’s 4.9 something right now. I compete at the 5.0 level. I’ve medaled in a few but am usually in the middle of the pack.
@richardmauer6443
@richardmauer6443 Жыл бұрын
Braydon, love your reviews. Would love to see some analysis of weighting in regard to head weighting. A quantitative system to show where the balance point in the paddle is, would be helpful. I am using a CRBN 1 and I also have a Legacy Pro. I find the CRBN nicely balanced but the Legacy pretty head heavy.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Hey Richard. I recently bought a swing weight machine to measure exactly what you're talking about. You can see the numbers I have so far here, docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CsQN9lFJge-QHjBdXE77stTxZHO90RmvXia20YG_JzA/edit?usp=sharing.
@richardmauer6443
@richardmauer6443 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballeffect Great chart but could you explain the last 3 columns?
@richardmauer6443
@richardmauer6443 Жыл бұрын
Just got my new 13mm Gamma Obsidian and would love to see a review
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
@@richardmauer6443 yeah, that one looks interesting. I don’t have one yet but need to add it to my list.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
@@richardmauer6443 those are some new data points I recently started measuring. The Twist Weight is the most useful of the three. The higher the number the more stable the paddle is. I still need to get the data for more paddles though. I just got the tools that produce the measurement.
@Firesong4ng
@Firesong4ng Жыл бұрын
What was the difference between measured spin rates of the single vs double black diamond?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention that in the video. They both played with big spin and I couldn’t tell a difference when playing but when I measured the Black Diamond it was getting between 1660-1688 RPMs. So it was a little less than the DBD but more than your typical raw carbon paddle.
@mattelder6541
@mattelder6541 Жыл бұрын
Awesome and thorough review! For the comparison with the 1x, is there any noticeable difference in the length of the face and handle when playing? Obviously the specs are slightly different, but I wasn't sure how it actually felt. Thanks
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
You can tell a difference with the handle lengths for sure. The CRBN 1x feels longer and the head looks smaller. I actually really like the 5.3" handle length. There are lots of benefits to a longer handle but 5.5" eats into the paddle face too much for me so I like the slightly shorter handle of the Six Zeros. As for the extended length difference, the CRBN is obviously your standard elongated length but the hybrid length of the Six Zero felt more like a standard shape than an elongated shape to me.
@mattelder6541
@mattelder6541 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballeffect thanks so much man! I just ordered the Double Black Diamond and am excited to try it out
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
@@mattelder6541 nice! Let me know what you think after you get a few hits.
@samborthwick8861
@samborthwick8861 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Is the power difference from BD to CRBN 1X extreme? And is the DBD at least comparable to 1X in power? Thanks!!
@braydonunsicker2767
@braydonunsicker2767 Жыл бұрын
No, it's not extreme. And yes, the DBD isn't far off the 1X but it is a little less.
@samborthwick8861
@samborthwick8861 Жыл бұрын
@@braydonunsicker2767 thank you brother. Would you say it’s inbtw 14mm crbn x and 16mm?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
@@samborthwick8861 Yes
@WhitePillMan
@WhitePillMan 4 ай бұрын
Hey Braydon, thanks for your review. I currently use a Vulcan V570CF2 and love it. Surprised I don't see anyone playing with it. I'd like to add a similar paddle to my tool bag with a slightly shorter handle and a little more pop. Definitely sticking to raw carbon fiber, so I'm looking at the double black diamond. The website lists the handle at 5.5" (same as my Vulcan), but you say it's 5.3" in this video. I know it's a tiny difference, but that's exactly what I'm looking for since I don't use two-handed backhand, but get a ton of spin and a bit more overhead power from the longer handle. Also, how does the DBD do on drop shots? bc my Vulcan drops are as good as I can get.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 4 ай бұрын
The DBD was originally listed as 5.3 but they later made the foam handle inserts longer and then called 5.5. I wouldn’t call it a true 5.5” handle.
@WhitePillMan
@WhitePillMan 4 ай бұрын
@@pickleballeffect got it thanks. After playing today I realized I need more of a power paddle for my second one so I’m looking at CRBN 3X, not sure on 14mm or 16mm. My Vulcan is 16mm. Do you have a favorite power paddle? (5 or 5.3 handle)
@kevinespina3289
@kevinespina3289 Жыл бұрын
I was debating if I should buy the DBD 16mm or the Vatic Pro Flash 16mm. Do you know what the differences are? Online reviews are saying that they come from the same factory and virtually identical...do you agree? If so, should I just save money and go with the flash?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
They are similar but not the same. They use a different carbon fiber weave. For me, I can control the DBD a little better but it’s not a huge difference.
@domp7923
@domp7923 Жыл бұрын
Have you played with the raw fiberglass model enough to comment on that surface's durability? Thanks for the review!
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I kept playing with it for a little longer after this review. It’s got marks on the face but nothing different from what I’ve seen with other raw materials on other paddles.
@peachcityshankar1174
@peachcityshankar1174 Жыл бұрын
😀 thx
@republiusrepublius8360
@republiusrepublius8360 Жыл бұрын
What we need, Braydon, and apparently what you are striving for is the ability to compare the four edge foam brands (and evidently they are all made in the same factory in China, though customized by brand): CRBN 1/2X, Legacy Pro, SixZero C/P, and Vatic Pro Flash/V7. For Vatic I am sure you will be getting their “new batch” paddles with a tighter carbon fiber face weave and more compressed polypropylene honeycomb core cells. I am not making a purchase among them until I hear your reviews. I am particularly concerned about face material durability. Thank you.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Yeah, once I have them all then I’ll put together a comparison video. I’m interested in that too ha.
@evanc1974
@evanc1974 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you when it comes to this type of paddle. I recently used the Legacy Pro paddle and the feel wasnt your typical raw carbon fiber feel. Stiff is the perfect word for it. Thank you for your honest reviews
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear you had a similar experience. Yeah, it's different. I like the benefits of the tech but the feel isn't as pleasant as your typical raw carbon paddle.
@evanc1974
@evanc1974 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballeffect i hit the Vatic Pro recently and even with the supposed extra tech in the paddle it was much more plush than the Legacy. Not sure how it plays in a game situation but had a similar, plush feel to a regular raw carbon fiber paddle with the hollow sound of GRUVN paddles.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
@@evanc1974 interesting, I'll have to try that one out. Adding a little lead tape to the Double Black Diamond made it noticeably more plush too though it still isn't quite the same.
@evanc1974
@evanc1974 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballeffect thanks for the suggestion. Just added some to my Legacy Pro
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
@@evanc1974 Yeah, let know if it has the same effect on the Legacy.
@omarortiz4036
@omarortiz4036 Жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between the 14 and 16mm Double Black? Wan a get the 16mm but it’s out of stock everywhere. Which I could try them both.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I haven’t hit a 14mm yet but suspect it’s got a little more pop and better maneuverability at the sacrifice of some stability and forgiveness. I have an order coming of the DBDs that’s supposed to arrive in about a week and half.
@DaveLL500
@DaveLL500 Жыл бұрын
Is the DBD still your go to paddle at the moment? Any delamination issues yet?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Yeah, still my go to. My original delaminated but I haven’t had any issues with the one I have from the latest batch.
@axelmartinez9
@axelmartinez9 6 ай бұрын
Hey! Love the reviews. It's time to purchase a new paddle again lol. Getting rid of my Perseus 16mm. Thinking of the DBD. Any other paddles that you would recommend?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 6 ай бұрын
The DBD is a good choice, I also like the Volair mach 1 which is in the same vein as those other two.
@axelmartinez9
@axelmartinez9 6 ай бұрын
How's the soft game with the Volair Mach 1? Haven't too much of it. @@pickleballeffect
@axelmartinez9
@axelmartinez9 6 ай бұрын
Mach 1 or DBD?@@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 6 ай бұрын
@@axelmartinez9the Mach 1 is going to give you a little more power and spin though the DBD is a little more forgiving. Both solid paddles.
@davehansen1169
@davehansen1169 8 ай бұрын
I play with the Vatic Prism Flash, 16mm. How would you compare the Flash vs the DBD? Thank you and appreciate all your reviews.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 8 ай бұрын
The DBD is a little more forgiving and powerful.
@CDZ959
@CDZ959 3 ай бұрын
Hi Braydon, i am considering the double black diamond control 14mm, i am currently using the gearbox cp7 and i like the control it has and weight, i prefer a light to middle weight paddle, but i need more power and more spin would be a bonus, i am a 3.5 player can you advise?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 3 ай бұрын
The DBD 14 is a good choice and gives you those extra benefits you’re looking for. It comes in pretty light though so you may want to add 2-3 grams of weight in each side just above the bottom corners.
@chongqinghotpot
@chongqinghotpot 10 ай бұрын
Does BD power feel like Selkirk’s fiberglass amped paddles since similar materials used?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 10 ай бұрын
No, the amped series isn’t thermoformed so they don’t feel as stiff. The BD gives you a lot more power and spin compared to the Amped series though.
@mediumdun18
@mediumdun18 9 ай бұрын
thanks Braydon !. I see in your overall all court paddle recommendations you list the 14 mm double black diamond rather than the 16mm? Am I correct about that and if so wondering your thoughts were between the 16 and 14 mm. My diadem icon v1 ( which I purchased from you and loved ) is giving out and this paddle caught my eye and seems to be well reviewed . Thx
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 9 ай бұрын
I actually have the Black Diamond on my Hot List you’re referring to but all the Six Zero paddles are solid. If you liked the Icon V2 then you’d probably like the DBD 14 the most. It’s thinner and moves fast like the Icon and has a similar launch angle so that would be the most natural transition for you. If you’re interested, you can use the code 10effect to get 10% off from Six Zero’s website.
@mediumdun18
@mediumdun18 9 ай бұрын
thanks.....I did have a very brief time with a 16 mm DBD and was very impressed with 3rd shot drop control compared to my Diadem . Can't find a 14 mm to try and although I agree that it seems a better and more logical transition would you say that the 14 mm still retains improved control over the diadem as the 16 mm clearly did. I know these types of question must drive u crazy 😁 ....its just so tough getting ahold of these paddles to do a side by side and cost is really starting to become a factor. Appreciate the code and will definitely put to use
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 9 ай бұрын
@@mediumdun18 I don’t mind :). The 14 DBD won’t give you any better control but it is a little more forgiving than the icon. The 16mm definitely offers more control.
@GunnarRojas
@GunnarRojas 11 ай бұрын
Hey Braydon! I’ve read through all the comments on the video and it’s been a little while since someone asked about an update. I ran into a few Reddit users that mentioned the BD has more of a softer feel than the DBD. I am heavily considering the DBD for the added control while still having high spin and lots of power. I’ve seen some of JohnKew’s videos where he shows the fiberglass on the BD playing a big part in the longevity. But the common theme in all the paddle reviews I’ve seen is the DBD is everyone’s favorite. Are you still using the DBD as your primary paddle? If not what’s your current go to? Side note: While I’m waiting on the DBD to get back in stock I picked up a Pro Line Energy paddle by Pickleball Apes. They have one of the longest handles at 6.25 and the face is a mix of Kevlar and carbon fiber. Figured with you being a paddle nerd maybe you’d think about reviewing it sometime. I have mine coming in the mail this week. Excited to test out the new facing material.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 11 ай бұрын
I just ordered a new BD so we’ll see if anything has changed but the BD was much firmer and stiff feeling than the DBD when I did this review. The paddle I’ve been falling back on is the Vatic Pro Prism Flash. It’s just a super easy paddle to control and I know I can rely on it when I’ve been reviewing and playing other paddles. When you’re playing with a paddle that has more power you have to adjust to it and dial it in and it’s hard to do that when I’m changing paddles all the time. I haven’t heard if the pro line energy paddle. Thanks for the tip, I’ll look into it.
@WhitePillMan
@WhitePillMan 4 ай бұрын
@@pickleballeffect I know its an older paddle (1100 and 1200 get released soon), but have you played with the Vulcan V570CF2? It's what I have and I'm curious how mine compares to the Vatic Pro Prism Flash and the DBD. Thanks
@ann0kie
@ann0kie 3 ай бұрын
I’m currently playing with the Ruby and love it, however I’m looking for a paddle that’s a little more head light for more maneuverability at the kitchen (without compromising spin and power). Would you recommend the BD in this case? 8:18
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 3 ай бұрын
Yes, if you like the little extra power the ruby gives you then the BD makes more sense than the DBD and is lighter. It does have a stiffer feel than the Ruby that will take a minute to get used to though.
@tommymorgan9293
@tommymorgan9293 Жыл бұрын
What Thickness Did you play with in the crbn x?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
The 16mm
@hush59
@hush59 Жыл бұрын
As always, great review Braydon! You considered both as All-Court paddles, but awarded Gold to the Black Diamond in your 2023 Best All-Court paddle Hot List. What gave it the edge over the Double Black Diamond?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Good question. I had a hard time deciding if the DBD should be categorized as a control paddle or all-court paddle. It does have more pop than your standard raw carbon but it's not a big jump. I personally prefer the softer feel of standard raw carbons and didn't think the little extra power it gave me was enough to justify its stiffer feel that I wasn't in love with though I could control it just fine. The BD, however, does have the pop to justify the not as soft feel and I thought it's raw fiberglass face was very innovative. I actually liked the BD more but I'm willing to bet more people will take to the DBD rather than the BD.
@gzhen123
@gzhen123 7 ай бұрын
Is it worth buying DBD at $160 or Vatic pro Flash at $110? Which would you buy, and which paddle do u think will last longer?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 7 ай бұрын
The paddles honestly play very similar. The Flash is just a touch softer feeling and doesn't hit quite as hard as the DBD 16. But the differences are marginal. You can't go wrong either way.
@gzhen123
@gzhen123 7 ай бұрын
@@pickleballeffecti just tested the vatic and it's not for me. The DBD also seems to lack some power compared to my Perseus and not able to hit shots deep. I will still buy DBD anyways to test it out. Do you think the black diamond is a similar to the Perseus in terms of power but have more forgiveness or control? Not sure if you played with the Perseus before but would love your thoughts! I do have trouble with my soft game and volley game with my Perseus in doubles so looking for an upgrade. I'm much more of a singles player at 3.5
@joepuglia2256
@joepuglia2256 Жыл бұрын
Which lead tape do you use? Can you recommend a brand?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I like to use this stuff, a.co/d/1dcC7o4. It’s not as heavy and dense as most lead tape. A little tape goes a long way for me. Some people like to really pack it on but I don’t like super heavy paddles.
@huntfishpickle87
@huntfishpickle87 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure the difference is very subtle, but Six Zero claims the BD generates more spin than the DBD...do you agree?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 5 ай бұрын
Yes, the grit they use on the BD is a different and does give you a little more.
@michaelbrohl1625
@michaelbrohl1625 Жыл бұрын
Is there any paddle that doesn't have an ugly feel to it when you hit at the very outer edge ?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
If you’re coming from a gen 1 raw carbon paddle to this paddle then you’d see what I mean.
@robedwards6926
@robedwards6926 2 ай бұрын
Is there another paddle brand/model, like the Black Diamond power, that mixes carbon fiber with fiberglass for the playing surface?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 2 ай бұрын
The 11Six24 Hurache-X Control is another one.
@davidj.jorgensen4828
@davidj.jorgensen4828 Жыл бұрын
What about Prolite Rebel or Titan carbon models that are made in USA ?🏓
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
We’ve reviewed the Prolite Supernova LX series but weren’t big fans of it.
@sharifmunshi
@sharifmunshi Жыл бұрын
Which control padel you recommend.?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I have a list of them here pickleballeffect.com/hot-list/
@bryanmillayes5902
@bryanmillayes5902 3 ай бұрын
Hey what is that grey/blue over grip shown in the picture with your paddles?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 3 ай бұрын
That's the tourna dry overgrip
@bryanmillayes5902
@bryanmillayes5902 3 ай бұрын
@@pickleballeffect thanks!
@MP-tf7cc
@MP-tf7cc 6 ай бұрын
Good review. Surprised you don't review every or most paddles offered to you by manufacturers. Don't you think players are interested in others, even if they're not original / new designs?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, just not enough time so I have to be selective.
@jtdavis771
@jtdavis771 Жыл бұрын
Any updates after a few more weeks of using the BD and DBD ? Trying to decide between the 2.
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
I’ve kept the DBD in hands since this review. It’s my go to paddle right now, I really like it.
@chuntan3130
@chuntan3130 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballeffect Why are you prefer DBD more than 1x 16mm? Which one have better soft game especially reset from transition zone and drops? Thank you!
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
@@chuntan3130 now that I’ve played with both for a longer period of time I can control them equally well and prefer the shape and weight distribution of the DBD.
@chuntan3130
@chuntan3130 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballeffect Does the shape of DBD make the sweet spot larger than 1x? Thanks for replying :)
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
@@chuntan3130 in my head it does but realistically they are probably about the same.
@shipdadip
@shipdadip Жыл бұрын
Six Zero says the Black Diamond uses "Proprietary Japanese Raw Composite Material" for the paddle face not fiberglass.
@robertnowak13
@robertnowak13 Жыл бұрын
Composite generally means fiberglass in paddles.
@robedwards6926
@robedwards6926 11 ай бұрын
Can you do a review of the new thermoformed (Muvn) paddle by gruvn?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 11 ай бұрын
Maybe, I have a long list of paddles to review ha. Thanks for letting me know what you’re interested in, it’s good to hear what people are looking at.
@joshuapickett1234
@joshuapickett1234 Жыл бұрын
Legacy next?? 👀
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
They said they’d send me one a couple of weeks ago but I never got it :/
@legacypickleball
@legacypickleball Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballeffect unfortunately we are currently out of stock. Will get you one as soon as we get back in stock!
@rx4095
@rx4095 Жыл бұрын
7:37 is that legal? Landing outside court to avoid kitchen
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect Жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s called an Erne.
@wolf-xf6hf
@wolf-xf6hf 11 ай бұрын
Whoever the woman you are playing with is she has an absolutely wicked one handed backhand. Props to you for finding such a good partner
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 11 ай бұрын
She’s only gotten better since this video was made! She’s a great player
@robedwards6926
@robedwards6926 9 ай бұрын
Does the Double Diamond have alot more forgiveness over the Black Diamond?
@pickleballeffect
@pickleballeffect 9 ай бұрын
It’s not crazy more forgiving but you can tell a difference.
@logical333
@logical333 Жыл бұрын
Made in China :( Love you reviews! I'm not sure I would want to think I supported a communist country, military advisory, everything I stepped on a court. Could you make mention of the country paddles are manufactured in future reviews. Thanks!
@cailynlynn8972
@cailynlynn8972 Жыл бұрын
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