BABE WAKE UP SHUFF MADE A NEW DD1 TIERLIST

i love when shuffle says a corny joke and then immediately sounds disappointed in himself. its like he cant help but act a little silly

This tierlist just makes me remember the times when Flag could just solo any dungeon in the game by spamming exsanguinate and herbs since you had no limited use and the effects were a regular debuff. Truly the DLC power-creep character of all time next to Shieldbreaker. Nearly all of his skills did something so silly, that his stress / dot transfers were really left in the dust. His stress in particular is interesting since I guess they wanted you to become rapturous, as you get bonus damage and speed, and his heart attack doesn't immediately take him out? But as always not being able to control people sucks. I think Red Hook overestimated how true Flagellant would actually be at death's door and overclocked all of his abilities to compensate for the fact that they were trying to encourage you to actually have a character be used on the brink. Instead we had one of the most insane healer / bleeder / tank / damage things and his only main downside is that he could never be resolute. Maybe not the place to reminisce about how broken a character was for a tierlist designed for 2024 but he's my favourite, at his release, at his rework, in DD2 as a blight damage dealer.

Arbalest's bandages go a long way in stabilizing an Occultist comp. Not only does the bonus healing help when Occultist low rolls a heal, it helps you avoid the dreaded 0 healing, inflict bleed status that has killed a few of my heroes across my career. Plus it is a solid "waste time" skill that you praised with Abomination, and finally, as they noted, there's not many strong skills in Arbalest's kit, so its a minimal opportunity cost to run.

Battle heal deserves to be higher. Its heal is not great but from any slot? This can save lives. With Ancestors scroll and Orders he can out heal Uca arterial pinch.

Rallying the DD1 army

Wow this is a blast from the past. I've been playing DD1 again recently (because the mods never stopped coming so there's a lot to catch up on) and then this drops, crazy.

I'm old enough to remember when Shadow Fade stunned an enemy lol

“It’s not unusable to be flared by anyone” floored me

Blind fire is for things like, 2 arbalests, a highwayman and an occultist that have a really really easy time killing ranks 2-4, but limited options to kill rank 1. The class only has a handful of skills you'd consider and only two skills you always bring (heal and shoot), and only one arbalest at a time would ever need flare, so it's good to at least make sure to prevent reinforcements as a decent last pick for a skill

54:00 wow, i feel good about thinking about bandage + food usage myself c: Saved a couple of runs for me when my occultist starting hit plenty 0's for heals.

I actually think that Abomination moves / the character in general is a little bit underrated, you can do crazy stuff when building around Beast Mode! Specially with other characters. Abomination, HoundMaster, Jester, Occultist… it’s actually a “named team” btw. You can make the goat dude hit like a Leper, even without crit’s with the right camping skill stacked on Abom.

Surprised you guys rated exsang higher than redeem. As you said its soul crushing when you miss an exsang, it's why I stopped running it and exclusively use redeem now.

So cool to see your still making content for DD. Your one of the goats.

An unexpected surprise but a welcome one

suppressing fire has such a low opportunity cost that u can keep it on your bar most of the time and i find myself pressing it most combats. there are so many enemies that can be completely ignored until recovery phase if theyre rendered unable to crit

My kids soccer game will have to wait

Ooh, DD1! I really need to get back to it at some point. Maybe for a Bloodmoon playthrough?

I'd love redhook to go back and buff Abom. He's my favorite and there's so much he needs. But he'd look so good in DD2.

Bounty hunter has grown so much on me, he can do so much stuff while having decent to good dmg, especially with propper setup. Musketeer used to be my fav class for late game in the save I completed the game for the first time so I guess I just like mark

Nervous stab is great in some situations when you wanna finnish off enemies or deal with squishy 3rd rank

Yipeee more great tierlist to listen to while I work let’s gooo

You were right about flashpowder. Better versatility, all positions can be used, remove stealth which is super annoying if nobody else can do it

It's a shame that sniper's mark is such a mid skill because it has the best animation/SFX of the game

YES YES MORE DD1 CONTENT PLZ

I miss times when Thrown Dagger didn't have -10% dmg and I could fairly consistently one tap Swine Heaver.

Flashpowder is high B at level one but anything beyond that Id say low B or even C Invigorating starts at C and goes to A at 5

If suffer cleared the whole teams dots, then it would be an amazing skill

Yes!!! Love the DD1 content!!!

Arbalest is one of those character that would benefit from the darkest dungeons 2 class adds/reworks

Crossover of the century.

Wow, I never thought about using transform to heal off of DD and still get to hit something. I wonder how many Aboms I lost because of that…

This is good, but I'll be honest--and zero offense intended to TheReal, your co-host--I kinda prefer you as a solo act. Please don't get me wrong, this was really good!

Flash Powder is generally better in normal fights, but it falls off really fast when facing a boss with multiple actions per turn. Invigorating Vapors starts off weak at level 1 but gets far better by level 5 compared to other skills, as you both pointed out. IMO they're both A tier, but Vapors beats out Powder when it comes to boss battles and late game.

Maybe it's me being a Damien simp, but even suggesting that Reclaim is C Tier is baffling to me, unless the tier list goes all the way down to Z. Spartan, my man, what are you thinking.

20:05 got her Shuff!

2:02 ranking starts

I love Slam... in BR.

At this point, I'll take any DD1 content i can get.

Loved the video, you could do a video about things to do in really late game saves

great guide

I run Get Down often as a panic button for Anti

Always good to see another Spartan

Long live DD1!

This is exactly what I needed

Damn DD 1 video! Lets go baby!

Idk if you've already recorded everything, but having a bit of zoom in your browser would be nice to make it easier to read, especially when watching on a smartphone :)

In my experience, invigorating vapors have no place among the top tiers, and definitely not above flash powder. I think you are really overestimating the defensive value of Dodge, it is way too unreliable to put a small amount of it on every member of the party, especially on champion where whether enemies hit you seems to be 50/50 even if you have 60+ Dodge, a number which you can only get to if you have pressed the button like 3 times, at which point you already lost a lot of HP on your team because Dodge just simply sucks. I have to agree with Shuffle, it is much better to disable one dangerous enemy with flash powder than spread small amount of dodge around the party every turn and pray. Especially since not even all of your team necessarily relies on dodge, so boosting those party members with dodge is redundant. The only time the skill might actually work is if all the party relies on dodge and there are other ways to boost dodge as well, which is a very niche case. I'm definitely against the move being in S, I'd put Flashpowder in A and vapors in B, since Flashpowder can also reveal a stealthed enemy in higher levels, which since Antiquarian is fast, he can do before the enemy.

Thx for doing this!

Oh, the nostalgia

EH! this will be nice

What a pleasant surprise

Just one quick video before sleep... 🤭

did you and spartan ever make part 2 of the character balance suggestions, or is it still in the works/on the backburner?

Reclaim S tier

Should do the lists completely separately and compare.

Yeeeesssss

What does that moon icon means on farmsted infinite thing? And there is not a single pic on web from Ancestors memoirs 100 completion. Im week 160 and i cant get any heros to get curse, and i can heal the curse. But how do i get that fanatic to show up? and there is only one mission shown for now from fanatic. I never defeated him tho. I dont know are there like 3 or 2 showoffs of him. Should i intentionally go in cc to get my heroes infected so that he can show again. Is he just a wandering boss. But if not, he wouldnt be shown in ancestors memoirs. I just wanna get 100% of off missions and i dont know how many of possible encounters matter, there is no locked button nor a single pic on web Edit: i cant join dd discord server to ask this im getting kicked automatically after 10 mins tf is that server

When do we get part 2 and 3?

POG

Where is the full DD 2 enemy tier list

W

Very odd choices

Didn't you do this two years ago? The game hasn't changed since then, has it, or am I mistaken? Wouldn't a DD2 skills tier list be more pertinent?

are you on the fentanyl? this is the worst list ive ever seen bruh