more ADC stuf after level 6 or 9 or some more complex things or something like that edit : thx for great content

The concluding facts were really important in this guide. In fact, here's a topic name which I'd suggest gets more focus: "If I must accept a punishment, what punish should I accept?" A lot of guides focus on how to successfully be aggressive in the game, but for those of us who naturally play defensively, such a topic could use some love.

hm, the cheater recall could be a bad strategy if your jungler is pathing towards bot scuttle i think this has to be considered.

@@scottgill2643 is this like "how hard should you lose a losing lane"?

@@douwemusic Not all punishes are game deciding.

no they repeat the same thing over and over to push the time to 10 minutes for advertisements

@@nikolai13codmapper bro you just got your capitalist realism all up in my feckless sycophantic praise. Right on comrade

@@solidaritytime3650 lmfao

That's me, a gold player * nervous laughter *

@@solidaritytime3650 Its global communism, the money is tied to the debt of the people, aka their miseries. We we born with debt liened against our names, aka chattel slavery tied to our status a residents under commercial law.

Yep. Literally so many free wins are difficult bc Botlane doesnt know this and goes 0/5 in 5minutes. So sad

wave managment is really important but the gold players think this game is just about fighting

@@kpr23 i love ur all criticizing the gold players when i cant get out of iron lmao

Okay, I'm gonna go for lvl 2 all in support is a screen away and ability is on CD

Just type in chat "DO NOT TOUCH THE WAVE OR YOUR MOM WILL DIE"

@@nishantjoshi6712 I can't do that because my in game name is BAMBl

DUDE IM DOING A FUCKING CHEAtER RECALL AND MY SUP GOES 1v2 LIKE A STUPID MF, ITS SO FRUSTRATING TO PLAY WITH LOW FQIOWFQW

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It means when you lose your lane,90% of the time you lose it in the first 3 minutes. At least that's how I would like to see it hahaha

It can be balanced aswell

@@andreasnorberg8285 Not so much, in low elo it's probably pretty common to have both lanes losing in 3 minutes hahah

@@andreasnorberg8285 no the statement of 90% of the bot lane wins are decided in the first three minutes would be correct. The statement of 90% etc. Results in wins or loses is wrong, that should indeed be 45%.

XD

hahahahahaha same here

Yeah. Its so funny that low elo supports love to waste their cooldowns on pushing the wave ALWAYS. Looks like they WANT to get ganked.

@@zhongguogongchand2633 true

I just spam ping to retreat and put in chat to follow me. They usually follow, but put in chat their confused. I tell them to at h cheater recall strategy on KZfaq. Lol.

Yes but this not the case

don't push as hard as possible. you can't all-in if the second wave doesn't meet around the lane center

That’s not a good look bud. The small details matter.

Got banned

they have like 5 on those. Go check them on thei youtube site

Afk

How 90% of ADC's lose lane when they lose*

Old comment, but 90 percent of people who lose their lane, is due to what happened in the first 3 minutes,

The biggest tip is ignoring your team's dumb pings while you try to grab any farm in any lane to catch up and hope your team doesn't throw which they always do. Good luck! EDIT: If the score is (close to) even or your team is ahead, you might be better off just grouping and trying to get numbers advantage somewhere on the map

@@douwemusic Thanks a lott!!! So if my team is almost even to the enemy I should group them and try to catch some kill, be useful in TF I guess

Yes well in my games when I want to slow push the mage support throws literally all their abilities on the wave 😅

exactly lol most of the supp usually mess up the lane especially poke supps most of the time morgana or lux will literally kill all caster minion before I can even hit them and the wave gets @#@!#$

Use pings to inform him what ur doing ._.

You may be interested in their jungle lineup of videos. What I've learned from them is that the first couple clears are really played out as long as you assume that both are playing as efficiently as possible. If they're taking something inefficient, they are making an assumption that the play they're making has value which is worth the risk. Power Farming junglers will generally never sacrifice clear time for a gank, but with the recent jungle changes (affecting first scuttles), they have dead time which they need to find a use for, which is exactly why they've fallen out of the meta. Level 2 cheese junglers will gank immediately after their leashed camp (Twitch and Ezreal) because in order to get value out of their pick, they disobey the law and order of the jungle, so the counter to that is merely letting the relevant side's wave push (always including mid lane). In other words, level 2 cheesers are really strong when both mid lane and a side lane have an aggressive win condition against their team. All other junglers have a level 3 timing, which can be achieved by either using the quadrant they're already on, or (more commonly) transitioning to the other side to get their level 3. The goal in all of their cases is to get level 3 in time for the scuttle fight, or to find the opposing crab if they realize they're going to be outmatched. Right now, the level 3 crab fight is the meta specifically because level 3 junglers have the most options available to them, which means that they're the hardest to track. In my own unsubstantiated opinion, probably the best way to track the jungler is through the mid lane, by getting a ward deep enough to spy on the raptor camp. If you can spot the jungler doing raptors, you can get key intel on the intention of the jungler, whether they walk through the bush intending to go to the other side, run to the river to be ready to fight for crab (or gank for that matter), or run the other way towards Krugs. Any other option you might consider would be so wildly inefficient that it wouldn't result in a victory worth having. tl;dr, They've got some videos on this already, and tracking laners does not appear to be a valuable skill.

@@scottgill2643 Thank you for the guide and how long it took you to type all of this

@@phongngothai6143 Mind you, you should still go find those other videos. I laid out the broad spectrum, but the videos give you something more digestible.

so true

If they respond your slowpush and you stay passive it will end in a freeze for them. You then have to switch to lv 2 all in/shove

As support you don't go back. If your adc gets a cheater recall off you should either follow your jg OR look to gank mid. Ofc there's other options, like just getting a ward down around mid/enemy jg, but following an invade or ganking mid offer more returns.

top is basically the same, mid is different cause the lane is shorter, but i saw that mid pros pull it off sometimes. I think that in mid it's just more difficult, cause you need a bigger wave to cheater recall. The liv advantage thing it's the same in all lanes and for junglers. Btw not all laners can push the first three waves, it depends on the matchup, for example against tristana it should be impossible to apply those two strategies, instead tristana can potentially always apply them, so you just need to make her push the waves to you and farm safely under tower. In competitive it's incredible how sometimes bot duo are really away from the wave in the first three waves,

@@FedeBert Thank you. I'll keep this in mind.

If you’re wanting to climb, find a reliable person you can duo with and implement these strategies. It’s so much easier with a friend, and if you guys can call each other and communicate it’s even better.

Any 2 level 2 champs will beat any 2 level 1 champs, simply based on base stats and the ability advantage. As long as you don’t mess up, it’s a guaranteed winning trade.

I think you're misunderstanding. They're saying 90% of adcs that lose lane (so either red or blue side) has already lost it in the first 3 mins. Imagine it like 90% of adcs lose their lane in the first 3 mins, and the other 10% lose it after the 3 min mark.

@@JustinRockin that makes more sense to me ;D thx for that

Just to chime in three weeks late as I've only just watched this video: While I got caught off-guard myself with the Tristana, I feel like the test in this case, as they should've narrated is actually to keep a very close eye on the adc once the second wave arrive. I got every other call right from the Ashe to the Sivir to the Senna. Because after messing up with hte Tristana, I saw the Ashe hitting the wave. Senna setting up her camp in Narnia because she had no support and the Sivir click back. Not sure if this helps or not but I wanted to add my two cents as someone who was in your position.

Qq not smart enough here

The problem is both teams do that and don't know what to do next

With w nerfs on her I'd argue her e is more useful lvl 1 because you can start the all in before the last minion is killed before you get lvl 2 and follow up with a q/ign.

whenever i see leona in my draft I just type : all in level 2 : in chat

you could ping the all in, type your plan in chat before laning starts, or just play with a friend

You thin the wave after you come back to lane. You will be back in the lane before they will be able to crash it. You can then freeze the wave or build a slow push back. Either way you win. When you freeze, If they stay they get a risk of getting ganked. Yiu can also strong arm them and deny them exp. When you slow push Assuming you thinned the wave properly so they dont make a clean crash. Meaning you deny them a good recall timing. If they base, you deny them exp since you crash the wave. If they stay you just kill them since you have an item advantage.

@@taichiixsan4619 that's the thing, if they aren't morons they would never let you freeze it. a small item advantage won't allow you to contest them, they have a big wave so they make sure it will crash. which then makes you stay under tower and last hit while they cheater recall.

If you do it right and crash the wave into their tower before it loses more than 2 minions, they can't slow push back. Their tower prevents them from building a slow push. They can try to stack the next wave but you'll get back to Lane with an extra item before they can build up a wave big enough to stop you from running them down.

You earn Tempo. You recall first, get back to lane with more items, the enemy crash the wave into your tower and then recall. The moment they recall you can rotate with your jg, invade, ward, gank mid, do drag. Everything you can do first means you have Tempo advantage

Since you are in your base most players will have the urge to push lane because the concept of "push the wave when your enemy leaves" is pre installed inside almost every League player. Also the tower will help with the push, so when you come back to the lane the wave will probably be a bit to the enemy's side but only a bit, its basically even. And you have better farm and more items.

Ah yes classic hard stuck player smurfing vs people who don't even know what their champs do... Nice flex there it's really impressive

So you had time to go for 41 kills but not ending the game? And why didnt you share the kills later on when you was full build? Your teammates needed the gold more than you at this point.

@@damienschrader213 Because I wanted to have fun for once, is it a crime?

@@Siinory Sorry my guy. I forgot it wasn't a ranked. >.< My bad

@@damienschrader213 Ranked or not, I wanna have fun sometimes. And tbf, how to say the teammates weren't that good haha