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SKX Replacement Watch Revealed & My Seiko 5 Relaunch Reaction: GIAJ#10

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The Urban Gentry

The Urban Gentry

5 жыл бұрын

As everyone who tunes in to the Urban Gentry regularly knows, the now discontinued iconic Seiko SKX is my favorite dive watch. Naturally, I had to do a quick episode of Gentry In A Jiffy (GIAJ) to share my first impressions of the rumored replacement of the SKX007, SKX009 and even the SKX011!
But this is no ordinary release, as it coincides with a 2019 rebranding of the entire historic Seiko 5 line of affordable watches. Why are Seiko doing this? What’s changed, and what has stayed the same? What do I like and dislike about them so far? In this video I am joined by the right dishonorable Hugo Mountbatten for a first look at this new era for the Seiko 5 and what it means for the brand and watch enthusiast community.
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@timmycasey7223
@timmycasey7223 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone's talking about this without losing there mind. well done
@neddubh4529
@neddubh4529 5 жыл бұрын
You had one job seiko. Put the 4r36 in the classic skx. What do they do? Raise the price, and lower the water resistance. 🤦‍♂️
@jasongennero2925
@jasongennero2925 5 жыл бұрын
I know right!?
@jasongennero2925
@jasongennero2925 5 жыл бұрын
You had one job Seiko! One job!
@neddubh4529
@neddubh4529 5 жыл бұрын
@UCr4aUXslStRRlgxRGjp3Eew people will still want the classic skx for that water resistance, thats gonna raise the price on those right there. All the same, there's already dozens of desk divers in the seiko 5 line-up. I have one with a 4r36. I don't understand why they sacrificed the water resistance for it.
@surfside75
@surfside75 5 жыл бұрын
No pip on the bezel😐😬😱
@saltysealion
@saltysealion 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mnb506 Is the grey market the reason why there are issues with the QC? When I look at them in the retail store, they are pretty good...
@marcosmcc2562
@marcosmcc2562 5 жыл бұрын
The green dial seiko 5 is gorgeous👌⌚
@Draklor92
@Draklor92 5 жыл бұрын
And that, my friends, is why Tristano will always be valuable to the watch community. Such a respectful, laid back analysis. Thank you.
@Kydos37
@Kydos37 5 жыл бұрын
Tristano?
@accacc4816
@accacc4816 5 жыл бұрын
Tristano???
@jerrydearman4679
@jerrydearman4679 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kydos37 It's his name !
@theendofmyropemydude
@theendofmyropemydude 5 жыл бұрын
We are spoiled for choice now, instead of choosing between black bezel or pepsi bezel there are 27 actual options. Yes it's a desk diver now, *but so are all of you*. 100m WR is more than enough for anyone who doesnt wear scuba gear.
@HarryStoneDotCom
@HarryStoneDotCom 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not! 😂 I take my old skx013 on every dive, and I dive for a living. But if I was buying now I would hardly be stuck for choices from Seiko, Citizen, or Orient to name just 3 at this approximate price point. I agree wholeheartedly with you that this relaunch is giving the majority of buyers what they want. That said, I have always felt that part of the legend with the skx, which added to its appeal for whoever was buying it, was that it was a real dive watch that could hang with the big boys. It had a seriousness that belied its accessibility. It was a bona fide tool watch. These new ones lose something with that, but perhaps they make it up in other ways.
@PepRex
@PepRex 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh if I'm 10m under water I'm probably a floating carcuss.
@ianvlnva
@ianvlnva 5 жыл бұрын
Real talk! The comment I was looking for
@LQ2DARESQ
@LQ2DARESQ 5 жыл бұрын
Part of the allure when I bought my first SKX was that it was a professional rated diver. Even though it never saw the water it's just nice to have that pop of red that says "Diver's 200M", and knowing that it's built to true professional standards. It kills the magic a little bit for me and I'm curious how that'll affect their sales on this new line.
@THX-C
@THX-C 5 жыл бұрын
disastrix47 Agreed. It would be a shame to lose that combination of affordable professional diver. The only thing I wanted them to do was put in the balance rather than counter-balance position. That and make it hackable.
@chrishunter9784
@chrishunter9784 5 жыл бұрын
These are Seiko 5's broken up into niche segments. A dive watch is a dive watch. They have taken the iconic look of the SKX and use it for the Seiko 5 level now. These clearly aren't divers as Seiko 5's have never been. The iconic look lives on instead of being killed off completely, and I for one appreciate that.
@michaelbishop9157
@michaelbishop9157 5 жыл бұрын
this isn't a divers watch
@ritzk79
@ritzk79 5 жыл бұрын
Roger Dottin “diver watches” have been a style of watch for many years now. A lot of manufacturers like Casio make diver style watches that are only certifed to 100m or less. It’s like being pissed that a pilot watch doesn’t have an altimeter. It’s become a style of watch, not a lot of people actually use specific type of watches for specific jobs. Divers don’t wear watches, they wear diving computers. Pilots don’t wear pilot watches, they have their instrument panel.
@cjones7854
@cjones7854 5 жыл бұрын
It's aimed towards young people. Most of them will not care. (Young person here). I'll stick to my SKX.
@JacobFrey
@JacobFrey 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like the REAL SKX replacement is the Islander from Long Island Watch. Incredible!!!!
@SalMightyOne
@SalMightyOne 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks that the new Seiko 5 logo looks like the Superman logo?
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSSS! Wow, now you mention it! LOL Thank you Sal, Best regard, TGV
@jamess8175
@jamess8175 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a Superman logo tilted left at 45 degrees.
@montrose252
@montrose252 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I don't like the new logo. I am a watch newbie and I only want to collect the old 5's.
@MrCmdCool
@MrCmdCool 4 жыл бұрын
No, that was also one of my first thoughts. Especially when TheUrbanGentry mentioned the "shield-like-character" of the logo! :) The new logo seems to me a bit fancier for the targeted younger audience... I like the classic one better. And I don't think there can be a real replacement for the SKX...Even if they would replace the movement with hacking and so on. The "new SKX" would lose the characteristics, that made the original SKX special... You can't replace an original! :)
@abefroman8202
@abefroman8202 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@sickbrain
@sickbrain 5 жыл бұрын
I hope they'll make 38mm that is similar to SKX013. I love what they did with "5". Never liked "5" shield in Seiko 5.
@kevinm.6007
@kevinm.6007 5 жыл бұрын
Sickbrain agreed
@varanid9
@varanid9 5 жыл бұрын
I, on the other hand, find this new shield rather gross. I mean, can hardly call it a '5', now that it DOESN'T HAVE A FRIGGIN' '5' on it, now can we?
@hasininan5501
@hasininan5501 5 жыл бұрын
@@varanid9 It's a clever ambigram, actually. From the right side up, it looks like an S (for sports). Turn it upside down, and you get your 5. Also, this logo is for Seiko 5 Sports; the classic Seiko 5 logo will remain for the classic models.
@Taranisify
@Taranisify 5 жыл бұрын
Also the outer edges of the 5 has 5 Corners. i like that detail.
@joanaterana934
@joanaterana934 4 жыл бұрын
nope this is seiko 5 sports i guess that looks like the SKX ...or should i say SKX homage
@watchbrocephus
@watchbrocephus 5 жыл бұрын
Love the mesh bracelet and the black bezel version! Excellent Jiffy show T! Best Regards, Stuart
@petershallis2294
@petershallis2294 5 жыл бұрын
I like them and I think this is a clever move from Seiko...if they end up being sold at the right price, because $285 is way too salty when compared to the superb dive watches Orient are putting out for less money.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
Well said Peter, thank you. I would put money on it that why will go for less than $200 deffo IMO. Best regards, TGV
@ustradingdiary
@ustradingdiary 5 жыл бұрын
If there is many people go out buy orient. They still make money. And might raise price soon too. Don't forget they owned orient
@mikewysko2268
@mikewysko2268 5 жыл бұрын
Very pleased with my Orient and Seiko watches.
@UCZ15
@UCZ15 5 жыл бұрын
Orient Ray II was my first ever automatic watch that I got earlier this year and I haven’t timed it but I never have to adjust the time, it’s such a nice piece. Just ordered a Seiko 5 (37mm silver dial) for £110 so pretty happy with that. Saving for a Rolex now.
@gtbigdog3507
@gtbigdog3507 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Shallis my Orient is one of my favorite watches. Fits and feels great
@captaincopconner2663
@captaincopconner2663 5 жыл бұрын
Hugo gets me every time😂😂
@mikepl7155
@mikepl7155 5 жыл бұрын
He deserves his own channel!
@TheWayofGrace89
@TheWayofGrace89 5 жыл бұрын
Never an SKX replacement. There is only SKX. Only one.
@ΠαῦλοςΠαυλίδης-χ7θ
@ΠαῦλοςΠαυλίδης-χ7θ 5 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@lukeventers4755
@lukeventers4755 5 жыл бұрын
This.
@dannemannen18
@dannemannen18 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah and it's overrated
@lukeventers4755
@lukeventers4755 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@deanwaller8283
@deanwaller8283 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannemannen18 nope
@dylandelaney56
@dylandelaney56 5 жыл бұрын
Never thought I’d see hugo singing along to firestarter 🤣
@brianlcushman
@brianlcushman 5 жыл бұрын
As stated already, the majority of consumers (myself included) buying a "Professional Diver's" watch will never wear it in the swimming pool, let alone to the depths of the great blue. I think what Seiko has done here is just plain smart business. Personally I do not mind a 100m rated watch vs. a 200m. Great video as always.
@jonathandougherty3677
@jonathandougherty3677 5 жыл бұрын
After hearing a few other youtuber opinions on it not being iso or a screw down crown, it did seem Seiko might be trying to cut costs, BUT after hearing the always positive TGV speak about Seiko doing this to bring in new enthusiasm for the next generation and making the SKX replacement line a entry level version of their more professional divers, that makes absolute sense. And it actually is kind of genius of Seiko. They are basically offering pre modded SKX’s and they can release new versions all the time to create buzz. I can just hear the young buyers “Oh have you seen the new blah blah blah version?!!” I think it’s a good move, as long as prices are kept at entry levels.
@Awkwardfruitfly
@Awkwardfruitfly 5 жыл бұрын
Superman! Everyone’s worrying about the new seiko 5 path. But this is just sports. Don’t forget there’s seiko 5 dress watches etc etc
@ErikS-
@ErikS- 5 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest. I have many many dives to my name. And the statement “professional divewatch” is one I want to comment on. Not even once in all my dives, did I use a “divewatch” as being sold by all the famous watchbrands. Basically, the main feature you need in a divewatch is a depthsensor (i.e. pressure sensor). And not one of the famous watchbrands has a depthsensor. My main divewatch is a Suunto Vytec. More a divecomputer than a divewatch. My mechanical divewatches in my watch collection I would NEVER EVER use for a dive. Especially not for diving in salt water.
@HarryStoneDotCom
@HarryStoneDotCom 5 жыл бұрын
Agree. I do use a dive watch to dive (skx013), but only because my dive computer doesn't display seconds and I need to time stuff. As a tool for actually diving dive watches went out with the ark.
@balimedicalcenter9374
@balimedicalcenter9374 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you.As a former diver and spearhunter i always used my trusty Citizen Promaster Aqualand for the sea dives and a Suunto D2 for the swimming pool training sessions.Real dive watches are true instruments,"diver style watches can be functional but mostly are for show.
@dannemannen18
@dannemannen18 5 жыл бұрын
Most people that complain about the water resistance are probably takinh of their 600m WR watch before washing their hands 😂 I used my old 5s in water a lot, not diving but works great for swimming, showering and stuff like that. I haven't had a problem for years. And those have 30m WR. And yes real divers don't use traditional dive watches. I don't get why people still think that
@-JohnGalt-
@-JohnGalt- 5 жыл бұрын
Agree with your comment, however, Oris makes the mechanical "Depth Gauge" reference that does indicate depth (though I cannot attest to it's accuracy). Cheers!
@mynameisvisutinnadda
@mynameisvisutinnadda 5 жыл бұрын
People​ do​ wear​ them​ as​ backup.​ Dive computers​ can​ fail, at​ least​ you​'d​ know​ how​ long​ you'​ve​ been​ in.
@TheSavagederek
@TheSavagederek 2 жыл бұрын
The drilled lugs, hacking and manual wind of the upgraded movement, added to the new colours and its a winner. I wanted am all green diver style for a while and the 5 fitted the bill perfectly. I've owned mine now for 1 month, and it's hardly left my wrist. I even wore it to work erecting a built in robe one day. I really do love it, and love the comfort of the SKX style casing. Even though, it's heavy and a decent size, although wears smaller, it is very comfortable and I like the bracelet. It's keeping great time, with no noticeable loss or gains. I'm very happy 😁
@ClassicalProtestant
@ClassicalProtestant 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought mine and it’s great. I’ve changed my mind. It’s really spitting image of the old Seiko vintage SQ150 diver. For the office and running around it’s solid piece. The finishing is great. The movement pleasant. The details lovable. Diving? No. Movie date night? Yes. I have other divers for oceans days but this was a pleasant surprise. The crown is not a big deal. The screw down crown is not for water pressure. The seals are for that. The screw down helps divers with not getting their gear or equipment snagged on the crown.
@24Dinho
@24Dinho 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely buying this when it releases ! Going to be my first “diver watch“ I ever owned. Like the fact it’s finally manual wind and hackable. Don’t mind the fact the water resistance dropped a bit since I’m never going to use it for that purpose , just need it to be water proof. Can’t wait !😍
@FT4Freedom
@FT4Freedom 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. You are exactly who they want as a customer. Somebody who doesn't understand that a diver must be a diver.
@armandoguzman3947
@armandoguzman3947 2 жыл бұрын
@@FT4Freedom you don't get it, it's a "dive style" watch not a diver
@canuck81
@canuck81 2 жыл бұрын
I own one of these and love it. It's not a dive watch though.
@JustWatches1
@JustWatches1 5 жыл бұрын
"This is skx in aesthetic, not in performance" Spot on TGV. I'm all about aesthetic as I never go underwater :) Waiting to see how much these sell for and the quality before passing judgement! Is this the "real" replacement, who knows - maybe we get something in the Prospex line next.
@1990diamond1
@1990diamond1 5 жыл бұрын
Great piece - even the special guest! I've been slow to come around (after the drama of the past) but you have responded with greater content that continues to impress and inform a broader audience. Thanks for that. Anyways, I just wanted to add that I read a few days ago in HUDINKEE or Watchtime daily that the replacement is actually the m Mini Turtle. I was suprised, because of all the limited additions, but it looks like that allows Seiko to separates the lineage from the Seiko 5. In the end, I'm sad to see the SKX era and, but Seiko will always suprise. Cheers!
@mslattery8710
@mslattery8710 5 жыл бұрын
I think since Seiko are the watch modders favourite blank canvas, Seiko are returning the compliment with these watches. They reflect a many of the current trends in watch customisation and demonstrate that Seiko are keen observers of what goes on with their timepieces once they've left the factory. This trend for following the back street heroes of watch modding is precisely what the Japanese motorcycle industry started doing in the early 00's, with the advent of the so called 'factory customs'. The adoption of fashion cues from the bikes that were emerging from custom builders workshops and out on the streets. Its a cute marketing ploy and plays right into the the notion of selling more watches to a younger generation. Cool looking watches, right out of the box without having to do all the tricky moves to have the watch looking just how you want it to look.
@saltysealion
@saltysealion 5 жыл бұрын
It's a nice move but it makes me want the SKX even more now. I might have to bite the bullet. To have an affordable watch with the ISO stamp IS AWESOME. If there is a hidden trend these days, it would be to have a "style" like design, but not the functional side of things. Mmm, back to deciding between a K or J SKX :) I would of liked to see a version without a date window. I feel like Seiko constantly tries to impress with more but I'd like something that can make a statement with less... at least as an option :)
@vals8062
@vals8062 5 жыл бұрын
Love the suits line black with patina markers, mesh wrist band that one is for me!!!
@edhammond6911
@edhammond6911 5 жыл бұрын
What’s with all the negative comments. I love the new watches. You guys are stuck in the past. You can buy all the SKX’s you want so don’t get depressed. Let the rest of us who don’t want to wear the same watch as everyone else have some fun.
@EmpireStateStudios
@EmpireStateStudios 5 жыл бұрын
No one in their right mind skates wearing an automatic timepiece! But oh well, MARKETING! Am I right? 😂 I really hope they'll make an updated version of the Skx013, that would be cool!
@deanwaller8283
@deanwaller8283 5 жыл бұрын
Just no,Seiko are replacing an icon with a desk diver? No,that's just wrong
@TheNeilo-Audiosound
@TheNeilo-Audiosound 5 жыл бұрын
Dean Waller Exactly,Non iso,No screw Down Crown,No Lume pip on the Bezel,and halved the Depth Rating???? Seiko SKX Replacement my Arse!! But hey it’s got loads of Colours!!!! Seriously!! We are going to crucify this on the Seiko Citizen Watch Forum😜 Seiko your Going backwards and it’s Money for old rope just like your Reissue Models with the “X” on the Dial which no one Likes!!!
@BluTrollPro
@BluTrollPro 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, that is exactly my thinking, I can take or leave manual winding, or hacking. But that ISO rating was what made the SKX unique at its pricepoint. To lose out on that makes it just another desk diver in my eyes, which the market is flooded with, I have worn an SKX013 for years and absolutely love thing thing, these 5s on the other hand barely blip my interest.
@pacovl46
@pacovl46 5 жыл бұрын
Neil Davison yeah, I hate the x on the dial, too! Plus, they look nowhere nearly as good as the SKX in my book!
@surfside75
@surfside75 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! That's why I ordered 2more original skx007 on straps😍. I want to always have a new Seiko skx007 around for the rest of my life😂 . Price within 10years $600+
@BluTrollPro
@BluTrollPro 5 жыл бұрын
@@surfside75 yup, when mines due its 10 year service it'll likely get a 6R movement popped in anyway.
@adrianhargreaves2854
@adrianhargreaves2854 5 жыл бұрын
My mind is made up, I will never sell my 009. Great video again mate
@sixstringbayonet8808
@sixstringbayonet8808 Жыл бұрын
I'm buying a Seiko 5 Srpd91 tomorrow. I don't know why people hate on it. I don't dive. And it's more than enough watch for me, not to mention beautiful. Wearing a Spinnaker Bradner with Atlantic Blue on my wrist right now.
@mrk131324
@mrk131324 5 жыл бұрын
The new Seiko 5 line is all good and nice, but it is hardly a successor of the SKX. What was so special about the SKX was that it is a 200€ watch that can look any Fifty Fathoms or Sea Dweller into the eye and not flinch. Every serious watch guy has one, because it was too good and to affordable too miss. I remember myself sitting at the North Sea, thinking about what end game diver to buy (shortlist was GS or Blancpain) and then looked at my SKX and though: Why buy another diver at all? I perfectly fine! Those new Seiko 5s are more entry level, „just one more watch“ style of watches, while the SKX is a true endgame watch. I‘ve spend much more money on straps, bracelets and mods for my SKX007 then on the watch itself and in the end, returned to factory configuration. The 4R movement though is a nice upgrade. Those movements can perform exceptionally good.
@junwoojang2941
@junwoojang2941 5 жыл бұрын
I think having variety is definitely a good way to go, but would prefer it if they do not replace the skx. Having both would be great imo
@ysouvic
@ysouvic 5 жыл бұрын
Good video TGV. I personally loved the line up. It will save the effort of modifying a SKX.
@sdamico555
@sdamico555 5 жыл бұрын
I see this as an appealing alternative to fashion watches, giving younger watch enthusiasts a choice for a legitimate proper mechanical watch. This watch has improved indicies over the standard SKX with surrounds around the lume. Granted the lack of a lume pip on the bezel and non ISO makes this more of a casual watch than a diver. But lets us all be honest with ourselves. First, most people never used the SKX as a true professional dive watch anyway, and second, without the SKX, seiko still has about 11 skillion more divers to pick from, some of which can be had for 300 bucks all the way up to 5000 dollars. This is a welcome mat of colors and styles for a broader range of watch buyers who will not need a PADI or ISO certified watch. Further, this is a nod to the modders, and the fun of making a watch their own. This is Seiko taking small part in that whole modding culture offering a canvas with some work already done rather than the blank white canvas of the bog standard SKX007/009. When watches get modded by most hacks like myself at home, we install a new seal and lube it properly and do what we can, but we do not have the equipment to ensure its 200m water tight any more anyway. So the 100M and the hacking and hand winding is is a breath of fresh air. I see this as pure win for Seiko.. Smart move and will be wildly successful in ushering more people into the mechanical watch hobby. I say Bravo.
@TaswcmT
@TaswcmT 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought my first SEIKO in several decades (had one as a kid) - I couldn't resist the all blue SRPD51K1. It's one solid piece of watch - I love it to bits and it won over a Hamilton Khaki, micro brands and a couple of other Seikos as my next watch. And no misalignments (that I can tell).
@ahmedhishamdr8485
@ahmedhishamdr8485 5 жыл бұрын
The evolution of the SKX is inevitable...whether we like it or not, new models definitely will attract a lot of Seiko fans and I hope the new generations appreciate true horology.Thanks for the video.
@atticus6572
@atticus6572 5 жыл бұрын
Thing is, it's hard to see it as an evolution when the piece is downgraded in almost all departments compared to the SKX--all while raising the price.
@scottcrawford3745
@scottcrawford3745 5 жыл бұрын
Evolution? This is a step backwards... No Improvements have been made here.
@scottcrawford3745
@scottcrawford3745 5 жыл бұрын
@@atticus6572 Agreed. Less watch for same or more money = Downgrade. It's a big NO from me.
@cesarcamacho2266
@cesarcamacho2266 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, as a 20 yo who has been saving for a 009, I find the Pepsi bezel 5kx a better and more affordable option (at least in my country, you only find skx at +$300). If you add the hacking and handwinding its nothing but good news for me.
@ercc923
@ercc923 5 жыл бұрын
That intro is pure class.
@i635503
@i635503 5 жыл бұрын
Being a California Urban Individual I get the appeal of these watches. I have my Seiko Turtle Srp777 and Samurai and have yet to go diving or swimming with them. Those are amazing watches very reliable and good looking. For me I wear watches more to compliment my outfits. While still appreciating the mechanical aspect History and learning more about them. I can see myselft wearing some of these to match My retro Jordans, jeans and fitted Hats. If it can get younger people into the mechanical watch game like myself its always a win.
@JuggusNawt
@JuggusNawt 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent points.. They are simply being honest with what the watch actually is.. Not exactly used for diving by the people who wear them. Wonder if The SKX007/009 will go up in value?
@fabers92
@fabers92 5 жыл бұрын
You have to say this is smart business by Seiko- why let other builders/ modders take your potential business? I'm not distraught that it's not a 'true diver' now, and after seeing the range I would love to own so many of these, so perhaps the marketing department does know what it's doing! Although I am a bit of a tart so the case colour and dial variations appeal. Look forward to some of your reviews- if possible I'd love a closer look at the textured dial models, and the dark grey/ black cases. Oh, and please clear up whether the 'proper skx' replacement model has a navy dial or black! Many thanks, take care.
@JackS425
@JackS425 5 жыл бұрын
"quality is going to be..... Sufficient" LMAO
@JorgeVideblogCAS
@JorgeVideblogCAS 5 жыл бұрын
I think that Seiko is a visionary company and this marketing campaign just proves it. While the watch market is being hurt by the fashion watches, the new SKX pops up for young people and give them many choices of a watch such as other brands. Maybe this watch isn't for the Gentry in general but I think we shouldn't be so harsh with it. If this strategy of Seiko brings more people into real quality watches then I believe that all the community would win with more enthusiasts and that's what a community really needs.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 5 жыл бұрын
Hear bloody hear!!!! Thank you Jorge, well said sir. Best regards, TGV
@dparis2172
@dparis2172 4 жыл бұрын
What will I do without the "extra" 100m of water resistance? Truth is that if my watch and I find ourselves in more than 20 FEET of water, I'm probably dealing with worries far greater than a leaky watch. I don't know why people fret so much about the WR compared to the SKX. I'm happy to be able to buy a Seiko in the SKX style and being able to hand wind it and not bother unscrewing the crown every time I do so. And as far as price goes, I think almost no one is paying $295+ for these watches. I just bought a 95 for
@royroblox
@royroblox 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree here. It’s funny you mention how unscrewing the crown is not necessary - I just got it today and the manual said to pull the crown out to set the time (probably since it is also the manual for the 7S26!) ... I was really confused how it was changing the day of the week but eventually figured out that you can just wind it in its natural pushed-in state. Hope you enjoy your 95, it is a beautiful watch.
@nicoh7397
@nicoh7397 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion they should have kept the tradicional skx design and only upgrade the movement, they should focus on creating new everyday watches with the quality of their sarb Line.. It would be interesting to see a revisited version of the sarb 033! But They still do a great job and seiko offer a lot for a very affordable price! Very good videos by the way! My best regards to you and to Mr Hugo as well.:)
@koen8844
@koen8844 5 жыл бұрын
The esthetics are spot on. However, I still think they should have included a threaded crown and bump up the water resistance. On the other hand, it would be a perfect every day desk diver. Hopefully it will bring a fresh batch of enthusiasts into the hobby. Regards, Koen
@drewturner2629
@drewturner2629 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The unthreaded crown on even a "diver-style" keeps me from liking these much.
@TheLumeRoom
@TheLumeRoom 5 жыл бұрын
I knew you'd pop up eventually with regards to this news, fella. The fact of the matter is that the SKX can NEVER be replaced. We must move with the times though and live with what is put in front of us today. Who knows, maybe down the line Seiko will treat us to an SKX anniversary limited edition so it goes out with the bang it deserves!
@diegotorres-rb8hw
@diegotorres-rb8hw 5 жыл бұрын
Yet another amazing video Mr. TGV God bless you and your loved ones !
@buiux
@buiux 5 жыл бұрын
The price is a big mistake. I'll never pay 250 and up in a Seiko 5. I don't like the way Seiko is changing
@tunokies
@tunokies 5 жыл бұрын
the RRP is less than the SKX RRP. Prices will come down.
@jamesyoo4779
@jamesyoo4779 5 жыл бұрын
The original SKX line also cost somewhere in the $250s retail. The price that most people paid is because of the sheer overproduction and oversaturation of the SKX in the market.
@chadsunclechuck3737
@chadsunclechuck3737 5 жыл бұрын
​@@tunokiesYeah, standard pricing.
@joedessauer
@joedessauer 5 жыл бұрын
hahah Hugo doing Karaoke is something I never thought I'd see...
@jamesarthur6962
@jamesarthur6962 5 жыл бұрын
TGV I am not a Seiko collector unless it is "Vintage" as you most likely know by now, but my view is that any brand or watch company that continues to inspire the younger generation to be passionate about strapping a tine piece on the wrist even as a fashion piece or statement to truly inspire them to love time pieces or watches in the same way we all have become enthusiasts & collectors I personally think is a positive thing. I think many people right now in the watch community reviewing the new Seiko range are missing the real point, it about getting the next generation to purchase watches & getting them as they develop into various careers to continue buying the likes of real watches rather than referring to the watches that we love as DUMB watches. So I CONGRATULATE you as always in bring another positive VLOG, content & message to your audience. Always #KeepMovingForward
@slimetime2227
@slimetime2227 5 жыл бұрын
Dang you Seiko! My wife is going to make me sleep in the dog house for sure now!
@GVSolo
@GVSolo 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not too impressed with the lower water resistance. Then again, lets see the price when they hit Amazon.
@17Blower
@17Blower 5 жыл бұрын
Really? So when did you last dive to past 100m (328ft) and why weren't you wearing a dive computer for safety?
@GVSolo
@GVSolo 5 жыл бұрын
@@17Blower I don't see the point for your sarcasm. My point is all about how much those new Seiko watches will cost compared to more inexpensive watches that have a higher depth rating.
@johnbrowning8785
@johnbrowning8785 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree that it's a smart move on Seiko's part to lure the youth away from fashion watches to automatics. But in my heart of hearts I want to believe that the 'real' SKS replacement is yet to come. I love the Prospex line having recently aquirred the Samurai Save The Ocean White Shark model. What I would like to see to replace the SKS as their entry level diver is the same caliber movement as this new line in a 200 meter ISO certified package at a slightly higher, say +$30~50 price point.
@brianmason744
@brianmason744 5 жыл бұрын
Man the way you put it...it really makes sense because the skx was kind of the grandfather of the Prospex line. It sat back In the shadows knowing it would be ok while Prospex was the new generation iSo divers...the new seiko 5 design is the offspring of seiko heavy hitters. Such is life
@JB-fl2gp
@JB-fl2gp 5 жыл бұрын
I would have preferred a sapphire crystal but not necessary, the fail here is the screw down crown. Very disappointing.
@ritzk79
@ritzk79 5 жыл бұрын
Joshua Briggs but it’s a push pull crown not a screw down
@scottcrawford3745
@scottcrawford3745 5 жыл бұрын
@@ritzk79 I think he means " the fail here is the (lack of a ) screw down crown, hence the halved water resistance.
@exploringhistory5796
@exploringhistory5796 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The push/pull crown and exhibition case-back are deal killers for me. I’ll keep my SKX’s.
@dannyfierro1597
@dannyfierro1597 4 жыл бұрын
@@exploringhistory5796 you do that BUT make sure you wear it EVERYDAY considering the movement is TERRIBLE. My guess is you have NEVER been diving so dont bore me with that argument, it comes down to aesthetics, a pip and a random 200m, which in all honesty, would hardly be considered diver legit (IF you WERE a REAL diver) the rest is personal opinion.
@abefroman8202
@abefroman8202 4 жыл бұрын
Danny Fierro. Rather arrogantly opinionated aren’t you dear boy. Don’t be so passive aggressive.
@SarahDunlap
@SarahDunlap 5 жыл бұрын
Wish there wax a 38mm! Hugo cracks me up! You crack me up!🤣
@garyshepherd9226
@garyshepherd9226 4 жыл бұрын
I have one due tomorrow - the classic 55K1 at a really good price. I think your review is very fair - I am not a diver so the 100m is not an issue for me. I was heartened to hear your comments on the Hardflex. I like the Long Island concept of 200m, sapphire glass, and ceramic bezel insert with lume but to be honest the price I have got the Seiko for makes those aspects marginal - I do not intend to dive at night so do not need a lume bezel! Thanks for your reviews !
@1Rolinha
@1Rolinha 5 жыл бұрын
While I’ll miss it’s ISO certification, the reality is that a good amount of SKX’s are modded desk divers. They’re simply offering more color combinations, and saving you the trouble of swapping that movement in anyway. Aesthetically I like the new line. Would love to see it in person. While change can be tough to deal with at first, one still should accept it’s inevitability. The SKX line wasn’t going to last forever. Thank you TGV!
@vicentelopez4738
@vicentelopez4738 5 жыл бұрын
Lol Hugo “I’ve bugered this up!” 😆
@gerdamelle
@gerdamelle 5 жыл бұрын
Sports SKX replacement: I come in peace. I have a mission to replace the original SKX. Original SKX: You are a toy!!!
@ehrarbose5600
@ehrarbose5600 5 жыл бұрын
this is very true
@edhammond6911
@edhammond6911 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I am excited. I was checking this new line of Seiko out yesterday. So happy to get your opinion TGV. I’m Planning on buying at least four or five of these over the next year or so.Seiko is King !! What did you think about the new logo? The new five. I think it’s super cool it looks like an S and it looks like a 5. I only have one small tattoo, that I’ve had for almost 50 years, but I’m considering getting that new 5 put on somewhere. If my wife approves. LOL. That’s how much I love Seiko. I think I Will contact Seiko and see I can get about 10 watches for the free advertisement.
@wallis34
@wallis34 5 жыл бұрын
From their website: Water resistance = 10 bar. That's 100 m depth Specifications  Stainless steel case and bracelet with three-fold clasp with  secure lock & push button release (SRPD51K1)  Stainless steel case and bracelet with sliding clasp (SRPD73K1)  Stainless steel case with rose gold color coating (SRPD76K1)  Stainless steel case with black color hard-coating (SRPD77K1, 79K1)  Silicone/calf hybrid strap (SRPD76K1)  Nylon strap (SRPD77K1, 79K1)  Hardlex crystal  See-through screw case back  Diameter: 42.5mm, Thickness: 13.4mm  Water resistance: 10 bar  Magnetic resistance: 4,800 A/m Approximate recommended retail prices in Europe: from 280 to 340 Euro
@EnriqueGiliOrtiz
@EnriqueGiliOrtiz 5 жыл бұрын
I wait and pray everyday for an entire chapter by Hugo reviewing Patek Philippe big complicated watches while listening to Prodigy! ;) Best regards!
@MrMoxes
@MrMoxes 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe in 10 or 20 yrs we'll get Spring Drive for us common folks. Ha Ha Still pretty cool. I have been seeing a lot more turtles & tunas. Glad to see more people jumping on board.
@Iknowrealtv
@Iknowrealtv 5 жыл бұрын
You see this is what made me fall in love with watches. The Hugo banter the watches for the simple man. I laughed so hard at the Hugo voice. I love that dinosaur.
@lanceuppercut7436
@lanceuppercut7436 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, i’m not fussed if it is or isn’t the replacement for the famed SKX. The new offerings look very cool and will no doubt sell strongly. If in fact these are not the SKX replacements and Seiko has a trump card still up its sleeve, well, more for us watch lovers to drool over and sweat over which ones we’re going to/ would love to add to our collections. Once again, the consumers (and more importantly), the Gentry win!😁👍🏻
@oes2546
@oes2546 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's a great move. 98% of SKX owners don't dive, and the other 2% have the Turtle as an option. You can swim with 10bar! Seiko seems to be lowering the price and marketing these towards young people, and therefore taking on the fashion brands like DW and MVMT which dominate that demographic. Great stuff.
@M3LTUP
@M3LTUP 5 жыл бұрын
They turned an iconic watch into a kids play toy. I can not be a part of this.
@darrenlee1480
@darrenlee1480 5 жыл бұрын
It's not a good move. It looks like a dive watch on the outside but it's shit in the inside. It's like putting a Toyota car engine into a rolls Royce chassis. It gives an impression that it's something more than its actual capability which is fking pretentious.
@oes2546
@oes2546 5 жыл бұрын
@@darrenlee1480 It's got a 4r36 on the inside, and is therefore better than the SKX "in the inside", not "shit" 😄. An ISO certification doesn't automatically make it better.
@timur9429
@timur9429 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting is that Rolex gets more and more jubilee ( gmt, batman.. ) and seiko replacing the jubilee for the oyster ..
@csarcpab
@csarcpab 5 жыл бұрын
I think this is a true half glass full/half glass empty situation. If you come from the Seiko 5 Sports side it is the first, you are getting the iconic case design from the SKX, an improved movement (4R36) which only some Seiko 5s have, and a ton new faces and straps to choose. If you are coming from the SKX side then you are indeed from the empty side of the glass. As far as the price Seiko Prospex and Seiko 5s usually sell at 60, 65% of the retail price even through Seiko ADs, you may expect this watches being sold Around 185 to 220USD, I don't think anyone has paid full retail for a Samurai or Turtle when newly released since they always have discounted prices way below the retail price. With this announcement I'm considering selling my SNZH53J1 and get the New Blue Suits with mesh SRPD71K1, total stunner!!! Greetings from Bogotá Colombia TGV!
@cannondale97
@cannondale97 5 жыл бұрын
As a huge Seiko fan, I'm quite disappointed that they've turned our beloved SKX into something else. However i do understand from a business perspective why they're relaunching the Seiko 5 using the iconic SKX looks. Call it laziness if you will, but i think they're pretty smart in reusing a design that is iconic and well loved and adding a new twist to it. Honestly the lineup looks beautiful and they also did a great job with the marketing as well. I believe it's going to do phenomenal !
@MrLiveWest
@MrLiveWest 5 жыл бұрын
@tgv Can you do a begginers guide video on the inner workings of a watch?
@khronokraze
@khronokraze 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is officially a Seiko 5 with an SRPD ref code now, not SKX. But, I think you'd be foolish to think this wasn't where the former SKX is now residing moving forward. As such, for the SKX line, I still think this is 1 step forward and 3 steps back. Not going to get into the superficial cosmetic options. Yes, you finally get a 4R36 movement. But, you lose 200m WR and consequently the ISO certified rating, no screwdown crown and I believe the lume pip is also removed as most, if not all, Seiko 5's have neither of these lost features. Some say the SKX was always part of the Seiko 5. IDK, don't really care about that... nearly all Seiko 5 specs are unlike the SKX's which were really closer to Prospex watches, imho. I know these will sell either way and almost nobody uses these for any serious diving purposes. But, that is beside my point. What once was a legitimate tool watch for divers has now been downgraded mostly spec-wise. It's ashamed since the SKX's lineage can really trace its way back through many iterations and the famous 6105. I mean that's a long fairly well-known line of watches which many would consider serious and reliable dive watches for decades. Now, it is not. I mean look at all the advert pics and none of them are remotely in or near a body of water, nor share any sort of dive heritage, where the former SKX should naturally belong within. And, in typical Seiko fashion, they either give you something you wanted for a while (such as hacking & hand-winding movement + new colors) and take things away and charge you more for it. Or, they might give you everything you probably wanted (the 62mas and 6105 reissues for somewhat recent starters) but will make the big leap and charge you an arm and leg for it. Don't get me completely wrong. I think Seiko 5's are great. There are a lot of really cool ones. And, these new "SKX-like" Seiko 5's will make fairly good entry-level watches for Seiko, not necessarily entry-level dive watches anymore, however. And, probably a great starting platform for mods also. But, I still think the spirit and more professionally spec'd SKX prior to these watches has taken a negative hit. Personally, I felt it may have been more logical to upgrade and rightfully elevate the SKX status officially into the Prospex line instead of Seiko 5. I mean people saying the Prospex is too large already aren't entirely correct. I mean there are probably even way more Seiko 5 models than many know about.
@darrenfry4695
@darrenfry4695 Жыл бұрын
A t.rex singing,(firestarter) pure genius.love this show lol.
@Sumpguard
@Sumpguard 5 жыл бұрын
I’m looking to get this specialist model.
@ggndrums
@ggndrums 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the faux patina version in GLORIOUS 38mm! Thanks for the video, TGV! Loved it and your take on it!
@jasongennero2925
@jasongennero2925 5 жыл бұрын
Seiko has never changed the skx and they never will change the skx Seiko never has discontinued the skx and Seiko never will discontinue the skx, it's too much of a cash cow, Seiko will never stop producing it. Mark my words. Facts.
@surfside75
@surfside75 5 жыл бұрын
The classic is done and gone.... Within 10years a new unworn original skx007 will be $600+✔️ That's why I bought 2more. Probably getting another 2more😂🍻🌿💙🇱🇷✝️
@johnshu1988x
@johnshu1988x 4 жыл бұрын
I hear so many people complaining about the new srpd Sekio 5 being only 100m and not iso certified. The new Seiko 5 srpd is not a replacement for the skx, it's a replacement for the snzf series (sea urchin). The old snzf 7S movement did not have hacking or manual wind, so the new 4R is an improvent. Also the snzf was rated for 100m and sold for around 180 dollars which is in line with what these new srpd Seiko 5's are selling for in department stores. So for all those complaining how about how the new srpd's are inferior to the old skx's, do some research. The turtle and the samurai are the true replacement for the skx.
@FamousEccles
@FamousEccles 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the SRPD59K1 so much, I bought one ... and it's lovely!
@damo0078
@damo0078 5 жыл бұрын
I'm about to buy a turtle Pepsi dial PADI.....before its too late !
@riseone8
@riseone8 5 жыл бұрын
I just ordered one yesterday lmao
@TechPanzer
@TechPanzer 5 жыл бұрын
Turtles ain't going nowhere
@ClassicalProtestant
@ClassicalProtestant 4 жыл бұрын
Yessssss!
@Brokmod
@Brokmod 5 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion the Orient Kamasu beats it at more than one level....Depending on it's final pricepoint when it releases.
@matthewkang
@matthewkang 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's a super smart move for Seiko. I wonder what the actual online price will be but it's under $250 I will be very tempted to pick one up. I love the orange dial version.
@TheBostonranger1
@TheBostonranger1 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Seiko srpd53 and I truly love it. Thank you for another great video, keep up the great work. Seiko did good with these new Seiko 5 watches.
@alecmoriarty
@alecmoriarty 5 жыл бұрын
Style over substance, which unfortunately used to be the opposite of Seiko. I see what they’re trying to do, but I just don’t agree with how they executed it.
@vanessamercedes7675
@vanessamercedes7675 5 жыл бұрын
Wish they had it in a 38 😭
@dark_antihero
@dark_antihero 4 жыл бұрын
small wrist unite!!
@dparis2172
@dparis2172 4 жыл бұрын
The obligatory "wish this was 38mm" comment. Every single video for watches 40mm+ Lol.
@JDmikejackson
@JDmikejackson 5 жыл бұрын
Hugo ~TGV => The duo is back - yuhooo!! Would be really nice to see a newer version SKX013 as well :)
@Postmortumaz
@Postmortumaz 5 жыл бұрын
I've been wearing my new Seiko SKX 007 for about a month now. Thanks to you and Long Island Watch. I love it.
@ΠαῦλοςΠαυλίδης-χ7θ
@ΠαῦλοςΠαυλίδης-χ7θ 5 жыл бұрын
If they discontinued the SKX for these it is not a very good idea if they also sell skx it is an awesome idea
@NonyaDamnbusiness
@NonyaDamnbusiness 5 жыл бұрын
All they had to do was upgrade the movement to a 4R36 and KEEP the ISO Diver's certification. Oh wait - they already did that with the Samurai & Turtle. But not everyone like the Turtle or the 3 O'clock crown on the Samurai. I guess if you're looking for a 200m dive watch with a 4 o'clock crown that's not in a turtle case, look anywhere other than Seiko. 3rd-party microbrands are going to take the money Seiko just left on the table with SKX-style cases w/4 o'clock crowns and NH36 movements. For everyone else, there's the Casio Duro. ;-)
@kbbarton1
@kbbarton1 5 жыл бұрын
Hugo doing karaoke - priceless! I do like many of the new color ways and how "Automatic" is in a script font, but wish they were still ISO rated divers. As you said, if ISO rating is a requirement, Seiko has loads of Prospex references available.
@salty_terminal_civilian5374
@salty_terminal_civilian5374 3 жыл бұрын
The intro is amazing, I love you TGV lol. You make the shitty days so much better. Covid, my pregnant wife is having issues, the VA didn't pay my GI bill stuff for school, etc. You're a hero 😂
@briang3598
@briang3598 5 жыл бұрын
Is Seiko trying to help Orient, Citizen, and various microbrands gain market share?
@briang3598
@briang3598 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it's weird for them to forgo the route of maintaining their ISO diver in this price range and using Orient as their vehicle for this new line of products (or diverting Orient resources toward it).
@Dankyjrthethird
@Dankyjrthethird 5 жыл бұрын
@Timothy Mckee Orient is a subsidiary of Seiko. Saying they're the same is like saying Vacheron Constantin and A Lange and Sohne are "the same company"
@surfside75
@surfside75 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, 😂😂😂
@1AlphaCrux
@1AlphaCrux 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, I don't think it's a SKX replacement, it's a fun watch for new enthusiasts. Maybe the new gateway drug from Seiko?
@chrishunter9784
@chrishunter9784 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, one of the very few here with some common sense. Its a fun Seiko 5 with an SKX aesthetic. Not hard to understand.
@unixnerd23
@unixnerd23 5 жыл бұрын
He's right, needs an SKX013 version. Maybe 39mm instead of 40?
@donellmcclure5445
@donellmcclure5445 5 жыл бұрын
The last few years at Basel Seiko has released a modern take on one of their classic dive watches. Just imagine an SKX007/009 mid to high end re-issue. Keep the SKX shape but do it in 41mm with near Grand Seiko level finishing, a ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, applied indices at the level of the latest Omega Seamaster, an 8L35 level movement and a Rolex quality level jubilee bracelet and clasp (in Seiko's design of course). Keep the matte colors on the dial and bezel not anything glossy and the exact style of hands but finish them like it was a Grand Seiko with that precision and craftsmanship. Keep the wave style caseback but with another level of texture added. Price it at $3000 and instead of a limited edition just make them as a regular watch but maybe only for 3-4 years then retire the greatest dive watch of all time.
@jonuiuc
@jonuiuc 5 жыл бұрын
needs that jubilee bracelet though
@GreyzzzNYC
@GreyzzzNYC 5 жыл бұрын
Nooooooooooooooo lol
@spartyjames5231
@spartyjames5231 5 жыл бұрын
Those Hugo bits were hilarious lol. Thanks for that TGV!
@jimv.6631
@jimv.6631 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review TGV. You're the first "watch guy" I've encountered who isn't absolutely losing their mind over the stupidity of this move by Seiko. Like you said, Seiko still makes plenty of true divers so, personally, I'm gonna give these a chance before condemning Seiko. The upgraded movement is big, so like these or not, everyone's gotta be happy with that. We'll see, I'll at least consider one.
@virgilpopescu5856
@virgilpopescu5856 5 жыл бұрын
First thank you for remain original and pay so much attention for affordable watches. New replacement of Seiko SKX and 5 overall is not a mistake if we look from Seiko shoes, as throguh this put a clear barier between a real diver and a “look as a diver” watch and so push the clients to chose an expensive diver if they really dive and to chose only a diver style for less money if clients like the style. From client perspective, personally think that improving movement with only a step above and eliminating water resistance but a double price at the end is a kind of exageration and the risk is that people to give up at one affordable line due to the fact is not affordable anymore and more than this, price are not reflected 100% in quality.
@vivecjalan1
@vivecjalan1 5 жыл бұрын
Soul is lost with much lower water resistance. It’s no more a professional dive watch. Period.
@chrishunter9784
@chrishunter9784 5 жыл бұрын
These are Seiko 5's with the iconic look of the SKX. Seiko 5's have never been dive watches. Nothing new.
@CDP-1802
@CDP-1802 5 жыл бұрын
@@john-carlosynostroza You're missing the point... How many Rolex Sea-Dwellers have actually used their helium release valve? But who wants to buy one without it?
@michaelbishop9157
@michaelbishop9157 5 жыл бұрын
it's not a dive watch period let alone professional dive watch
@vivecjalan1
@vivecjalan1 5 жыл бұрын
john-carlos ynostroza , with utmost respect and love for all watch enthusiasts on this forum, the only point I make here is that Seiko has now robbed SKX of the most critical function that made it one of the most iconic watches around notwithstanding tons of divers available in their line-up.
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 4 жыл бұрын
Diving computer replaces Dive watch for decades. Casual swimming is the only place for "diver's watch". Diving is not such a casual activity to only rely on a mechanical watch. Safety first. @Vivek Jalan but they never said its an SKX replacement. The clear successors of SKX is the many other divers watch like the prospex line Its a Seiko 5. It just borrows styles from the SKX. IMO its much better they do it this way than letting the SKX die of old age with nothing else to show it ever existed.
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