REACTION: Ireland defeat Springboks! What does that mean for the All Blacks Rugby World Cup chances?

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@darrenmc1986
@darrenmc1986 8 ай бұрын
From an Irish point of view, that game on Saturday was probably the most engrossing game I've ever watched. It could have swung either way to be honest. 11 points missed off the tee is not great but neither is losing your first four line-outs in promising positions. Much respect to that SA side. The thought of facing the All Blacks is daunting. They're not in the best of form but always so dangerous. This current Irish squad has a lot to thank the Kiwis for. It's clear were our blue print and influences have come from. It must be said neither Scotland nor Italy will roll over so that game may not even come to pass 😂😂. Looking forward to it all regardless.
@d.j.z.j
@d.j.z.j 8 ай бұрын
Agree bro
@larrycurley5581
@larrycurley5581 8 ай бұрын
France vs South Africa, Ireland vs New Zealand, both games could go either way. We all have some very exciting rugby ahead.
@tadghmurphy7807
@tadghmurphy7807 8 ай бұрын
France and Ireland.
@IAMALLMUSIC
@IAMALLMUSIC 8 ай бұрын
The Ireland vs All Black game will go one way. ABs will be comprehensively beaten.
@greywolf187
@greywolf187 8 ай бұрын
​@@IAMALLMUSICya as payback for 2019
@MrRiaanm
@MrRiaanm 8 ай бұрын
​@@IAMALLMUSICAbsolutely, Ireland is playing phenomenal rugby... Well done on a great game. From a SAFFA
@GTRoberts
@GTRoberts 8 ай бұрын
@@IAMALLMUSICgiven the way the ABs have played recently, I think they should just forfeit the game, there's no point for that team to even bother
@ErikSmuts
@ErikSmuts 8 ай бұрын
Well done to Ireland on a well deserved victory! Very tough to swallow as a Springbok supporter, but the Irish were better on the day. Nobody likes losing, but this was probably the game that we could “afford” to lose. Winning would have meant facing the AB’s who we all know can easily pull off a winning performance on the day in a quarter final. For the Boks to win the cup they probably always had to beat France. The question is, with this tournament being held in France, do you rather face them in the quarter final or the final? To me the answer is very simple - if you can choose it has to be the quarter finals - not only to avoid the AB’s (for which we have so much respect) but to avoid a situation similar to ‘95 where the hosting nation will have an incredible advantage playing at home. This tournament is very far from being decided and still any team from Ireland, SA, France and NZ (let’s ignore England for now😜) can still lift the cup. Both France and SA took huge knocks in losing Dupont and Marx, but expect more exciting rugby to follow. To me one of the highlights of this game, besides the excellent rugby, was the fact that the referee’s decisions did not determine the outcome. No silly red and yellow cards. Just awesome rugby!! Again, congratulations to Ireland for beating us in this proper test match. 👏👏
@FennessyMusic
@FennessyMusic 8 ай бұрын
Don't fear France - you have a stronger team and they're highly likely going to be missing Dupont - my money is on SA to win that game (home advantage also comes with home pressure!)
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 8 ай бұрын
A very good point. This was indeed a game that the Boks could afford to lose. Remember that they lost to the ABs in the group stage in 2019 but they still won the WC. Scotland might surprise Ireland yet so its not certain yet who will be playing who in the Qtrs. And don't forget Italy ! I think they will put it up to the ABs.
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns 8 ай бұрын
Libbok is a liability. Guaranteed South Africa would've won had Pollard started.
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb 8 ай бұрын
Libbok is such a dissapointment, I can't even begin to explain how embarrassing it is that Libbok is our only go to seeing as Pollard has been around since 2012. Rassie has sold the Boks out and we starting to see the rot of all the quotas and no new talent brought through. This is a school system problem, and it showed in our franchise's this year. We not seeing it as NZand AUS are on the down but watch what happens next. SARU played it's hand against Arg and is yet to announce who replaces the sellout Rassie post WC, Stix and Deon are not fit to take the helm and SARU has become ultra devious since Rassie arrived
@dreday77764
@dreday77764 8 ай бұрын
I believe it will be a SA vs AB’s final. From a AB’s supporter
@CamusAl
@CamusAl 8 ай бұрын
“Because the winner will play the AB in quarter final”. Imagine Italy beating the AB next week…!
@magnumpi8097
@magnumpi8097 8 ай бұрын
I can imagine Italy getting thrashed.
@MeanAzz_13
@MeanAzz_13 8 ай бұрын
As a *Kiwi* this could very well happen. But not with 15 v 15. We will have suffer a 🟥 early in the game, then we could be in trouble lol
@benneal9309
@benneal9309 8 ай бұрын
😂not a chance the abs might be a little average this year, but they still perennial contenders, 50 plus to the abs in a canter
@robertaddy3617
@robertaddy3617 8 ай бұрын
Italy arnt going to beat NZ
@MeanAzz_13
@MeanAzz_13 8 ай бұрын
@@benneal9309 not if we get a 🟥 early in the game
@Darren_S
@Darren_S 8 ай бұрын
These Kiwi pundits look very stressed out about what they saw last night.
@davidvickers8425
@davidvickers8425 8 ай бұрын
Lol they have beaten both of these teams in the last few years, whoever shows up on the day will win, either france nz boks or ireland.
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@davidvickers8425Yes but they have a losing record against Ireland in the last few years. Ireland are a better team than they were 2 years ago.
@craigweideman6194
@craigweideman6194 8 ай бұрын
@@davidvickers8425 also taken a record beating from one of them in the last few weeks followed by a loss to France. Worrying signs
@seansmith9435
@seansmith9435 8 ай бұрын
@@craigweideman6194agree with you haha
@barneyboy2008
@barneyboy2008 8 ай бұрын
​@@johnmc3862I'm not sure they are better. They looked very similar to what they did against the all blacks last year. They love to attack the inside channels with bundi aki, to create space elsewhere.
@beerdedirish1563
@beerdedirish1563 8 ай бұрын
As an Irishman with his second team as the All Blacks having lived in NZ for a good chunk. It's a win, win for me. 😮 Gl to both teams, we're certainly spoilt in this World Cup for match ups! Churr.
@Kevin-lf4xx
@Kevin-lf4xx 8 ай бұрын
Anyone looking at Ireland in last few years would know they consistently kick to the corner when they get penalties.This is because they are very good at scoring tries when they get into the red zone .
@higuk999
@higuk999 8 ай бұрын
And the longer your oponent is pinned their end the safer you are in defence and you also tire them outbmore
@thefobbie0034
@thefobbie0034 8 ай бұрын
The lineout stats for the first half was Ireland 7 lineout wins from 12 lineouts! Ireland got dominated at set piece! I think they should take the shot at goal! Been saying this for the last 2 years - All Blacks must target the Irish set piece, kick for territory to turn their defence around and take shots at goals from penalties!
@billbobby461
@billbobby461 8 ай бұрын
The point for going for the corner rather than 3 is to force penalties and cards out of the opposition. Do you remember how many yellow cards new Zealand gave up rather than allow ireland to score in the summer series last year? Why allow them to stop you scoring by giving away a penalty, and let's be honest here that's part of their defensive strategy to do that, so much so infact they keep doing it even though they get carded, why take the pressure off by taking 3 and then put the pressure straight back on yourself trying to exit deep in your half from the kick off? It doesn't make sense. That is part of irelands attack strategy, keep the pressure on the opposition, force penalties and cards, to score tries, not allow opportunity to be out scored by letting the opposition back in your half unpunished.
@thefobbie0034
@thefobbie0034 8 ай бұрын
@@billbobby461 AGAIN last year has no consequence considering the Irish lost 5 lineouts in the first half on Saturday - you can't get penalties from attacking 5m lineouts if you are not winning your lineouts and you are NOT going to score against an opponent who can defend against rolling mauls! The Irish should have gone for the 3 pt kicks which means that would have given Ireland more leverage on the scoreboard rather than losing lineout ball! What stood out for me was how composed the Irish were under extreme pressure and their defensive systems!
@jimbob2252
@jimbob2252 8 ай бұрын
​@@thefobbie0034the lineout didn't function in the first half because SA were just lifting Mostert and Eben at the same time. Kelleher hasn't played much in the last while either I think the occasion got to him. Defo something Ireland need to sort out though we left a lot of points out there same as SA
@honeheke1128
@honeheke1128 8 ай бұрын
Ireland team play was fantastic to watch didn't panic look really composed, which is scary as a ABZ supporter, especially after there series win over us. So gutted top 4 sides are on the one side, shows us that can't happen, these 4 teams needed to be in a perfect world in the semi's. Good luck to all teams
@celticlofts
@celticlofts 8 ай бұрын
I think the biggest change we've seen with Ireland since the last world cup is their mental fortitude. They never panic, they just stick to their plan and it always seems to work out for them. They lost 2 games in 2022 and none so far in 2023, that's some record to have.
@sidknee4975
@sidknee4975 8 ай бұрын
That sounds like a typical Allblacks year. Just not recently, we’re slippin but still have a good chance of winning the cup. Regardless what people think of the Allblacks of late we can still beat any team on a given day.
@feargalkelly3534
@feargalkelly3534 8 ай бұрын
​@@sidknee4975If we beat Scotland everyone is expecting a tough game from you guys
@taintabird23
@taintabird23 8 ай бұрын
@@sidknee4975 That's like Scotland. They can beat anybody on a given day too. We play them next.
@davidfarmer3499
@davidfarmer3499 8 ай бұрын
​@@sidknee4975..that is pretty true the reality is they can do it on the day!!!!...are the AB the sleeping danger?....i think so!!!!!
@markc3258
@markc3258 8 ай бұрын
Both them 2 loses was away in France and NZ Not easy to beat these days
@townsley2
@townsley2 8 ай бұрын
I can see lots of SA fans relieved at the prospect of avoiding the AB in the quarters, overlooking France. Well we'll see. No disrespect to South Africa or NZ, but France is on a mission, and we've beaten both teams last time we faced them. The boys in blue have been expecting this moment for years now. It's their moment, won't let it go easily.
@rivgacooper5330
@rivgacooper5330 8 ай бұрын
The thing for SA is thay France can match them with forwards. France is the ONLY team that can go full in on an arm wrestle with SA and win. And even without Dupont they have better runners, I don't think it is a definite French win but they have the edge. With out Dupont it be an ugly win.
@lukewilsonworld
@lukewilsonworld 8 ай бұрын
Personally, and as a South African, I would’ve preferred us not to avoid NZ as we have that recent edge over them. Whereas France are playing on home soil. Which is only a recipe for their success.
@rivgacooper5330
@rivgacooper5330 8 ай бұрын
@@lukewilsonworld I feel France is a bad match up for SA. That certainly is not to say SA will 100% lose but I think even a good NZ side would play into SA hands. Who knows though, playing them now with a semi injured or not on the field Dupont is a better option than a fully fit Dupont.
@allancaples4887
@allancaples4887 8 ай бұрын
No team that have beaten the ABs during a WC have won it.
@Analytical2000
@Analytical2000 8 ай бұрын
I think you will find it was Declan Kidney that started the current form in Irish rugby, Joe Schmidt built on that and now Andy Farrell is building further. Not to forget the work of all those over the years behind the scenes and including David Nucifora. By the way, media has being reporting recently Schmidt may be returning to Ireland after the World Cup to replace Nucifora. So interesting times may be ahead for Ireland.
@MeanAzz_13
@MeanAzz_13 8 ай бұрын
I think you'll find Ireland's 🇮🇪 *first ever win* over the All Blacks 🇳🇿 came under *NZL born Coach* Joe Schmidt.
@jamieoshea1681
@jamieoshea1681 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@MeanAzz_13I’ll think you’ll I’ll find that, that’s irrelevant to what was said in the comment
@Analytical2000
@Analytical2000 8 ай бұрын
@@MeanAzz_13 And i am sure you will find that Kidney was the brains behind Ireland winning their first Six Nations Grand Slam in 61 years and that he won the World Rugby Coach of the Year in 2009. While Schmidt means a lot to Ireland and has brought much success, the people also recognise that it was Kidney that started the ball rolling to where we are today.
@patger2684
@patger2684 8 ай бұрын
Declan kidney won with Eddie o Sullivans team then gave Ireland's worst defeat to nz in nz and losing to Italy Munster goggles nuch
@MeanAzz_13
@MeanAzz_13 8 ай бұрын
@@Analytical2000 was it Kidneys brains losing 60 - 0 to NZL too?
@johanlamprecht5577
@johanlamprecht5577 8 ай бұрын
If the AB play Ireland and SA play France in QF anything can happen. Both those games too close to call for me. As a Bok supporter I fear the French a little bit less than the ABs since we can match the French pack but if the AB play a high tempo game and they bring their A game, they normally beat us.
@JayP744
@JayP744 8 ай бұрын
100% agree! If Nz click, they can be unstoppable, and we have struggled in the past when they did click. French crowd will be huge but think we can play them quiet! Their fans can turn on them quickly. Need to show dominance from the start and play them out of the game early.
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 8 ай бұрын
@@JayP744If Ireland click they are more unstoppable.
@peadarr
@peadarr 8 ай бұрын
I love the Springbok confidence in their pack. Just 2 days ago they had without a doubt the “best 2 packs in World rugby”, yet they failed completely to “dominate” Ireland the way every SA pundit and fan expected. What on earth makes you think you ll do better against a French pack that actually is bigger and stronger than the Irish one
@kesivan
@kesivan 8 ай бұрын
@@peadarr SA has a 7-1 split then played a Backline style game … first maul for them at 71 min … think about that… they didn’t want to win this as much as ask questions… Ireland was desperate for a win.
@JayP744
@JayP744 8 ай бұрын
@@johnmc3862 lets see I guess…
@oshead
@oshead 8 ай бұрын
Too simplistic to think that the kicking cost them the game. Ireland went to the corner three times when they could've easily put 9 points on the board. Plus SA scored their try shortly after hitting the post.
@fincorrigan7139
@fincorrigan7139 8 ай бұрын
Forward pass as well
@felixmaruve
@felixmaruve 8 ай бұрын
Why are u worried that much if u really know that those points left on the tee ddnt matter? Why are u worried then? Relax u won the game and points lost by SA werent important at all
@henkstols9326
@henkstols9326 8 ай бұрын
I think SA should have played exactly the same and kicked to the corner, to miss penalties is a let off with regards to pressure. Both teams played well and their weak points were exposed, luckily in a pool game and not the knock out stages.
@frankvandermerwe1487
@frankvandermerwe1487 8 ай бұрын
​@@fincorrigan7139No it wasnt
@BiltonginParis
@BiltonginParis 8 ай бұрын
​@@fincorrigan7139oh please, stop that now. It wasn't
@J0sh351
@J0sh351 8 ай бұрын
Worrying part was that game was 80 minutes of intensity from both teams I can’t see this current ABs crop matching, sticking to us going out in the QFs
@nielvanderwalt1965
@nielvanderwalt1965 8 ай бұрын
Abs need 20mins to win a game not 80. Thats the difference
@2011hwalker
@2011hwalker 8 ай бұрын
ABs were ferocious in rugby championship vs SA....
@NK-er3ci
@NK-er3ci 8 ай бұрын
​@@nielvanderwalt1965 All Blacks are unreal obviously. I think if they go in as underdogs they'll be even more dangerous. There's that added pressure on Ireland as they've never got past the quarters. As an Irish man I don't think I've got the nerves to watch that game
@timtan2023hiyffg
@timtan2023hiyffg 8 ай бұрын
​​​@@nielvanderwalt1965not recently you are losing a lot of games. Delusional to think you are anywhere near the best team atm. You are so weak upfront
@dhirshg
@dhirshg 8 ай бұрын
@@nielvanderwalt1965 Sadly not this batch - Mount Smart the exception.
@christoffopperman5512
@christoffopperman5512 8 ай бұрын
Different opinion. Boks tried some different things knowing that winning or losing doesn't matter. ABs are so unpredictable and can play that one game where no one will beat them. Not dissing France but ABs our bogey side for many years.
@Gerhard2770
@Gerhard2770 8 ай бұрын
100%
@groundhogguns5828
@groundhogguns5828 8 ай бұрын
you are the AB's bogey side. dont get it twisted
@oisinquinn9469
@oisinquinn9469 8 ай бұрын
Copium
@Lechedeesnuts
@Lechedeesnuts 8 ай бұрын
ah yes, now the new narrative is the boks just didn't care about winning...right, there's always something when you lose with you south africa fans, while before the matches you always so sure you'll just smash everybody
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim 8 ай бұрын
Beware the French. Du Pont not being there, maybe, will no more affect them than losing N'tamack has. Teams do not revolve around one or two players. Lucu is a great 9.
@RikiLouw69
@RikiLouw69 8 ай бұрын
If you don't have a goal kicker, you can't expect to win these kind of games.
@johncahalane7327
@johncahalane7327 8 ай бұрын
One thing that balances it out is the South African 11 point missed as opposed to Irelands five missed lineouts and the scores missed, as for New Zealand vs Ireland we will see and I can't wait
@liamjohnhawkins4212
@liamjohnhawkins4212 8 ай бұрын
Since when has taking a shot from your own half been a guaranteed 3 points and one of those hit the post which gave SA field position that they scored their try from…… 11 points is nonsense
@richardb6844
@richardb6844 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂me too..........
@tradingmachine4832
@tradingmachine4832 8 ай бұрын
@@liamjohnhawkins4212 yeah , getting bored of the cope from saffas.
@raymonddixon7603
@raymonddixon7603 8 ай бұрын
Ireland almost always kick for the corner. If they had decided to kick for goal the margin would have been wider. SA using12 forwards is a bit over the top, don't you think. What were they afraid of??
@Lechedeesnuts
@Lechedeesnuts 8 ай бұрын
@@raymonddixon7603nonono, not 12 forwards, 15 lol
@ross4186
@ross4186 8 ай бұрын
As an AB fan im so gald we are playing ireland instead of the boks. Semi final here we come
@troubadour4079
@troubadour4079 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 what are you smoking
@barra6709
@barra6709 8 ай бұрын
As an Irishman, I don't doubt the All Blacks could turn up and shell shock everyone and win this World Cup including us provided we beat Scotland. However Kiwis and Saffa armchair pundits have been underestimating Ireland's chances for months now. I hope Ireland beat them in spectacular fashion.
@CoNeSol
@CoNeSol 8 ай бұрын
Now that was a great and balanced interview and insights from both Jeff & Mills. I was very critical of Jeff following his previous comments about the Boks - but it was a pleasure to hear unbiased and insightful critique
@jjlloyd5198
@jjlloyd5198 8 ай бұрын
When they are unbiased both are at their best. Really enjoy both of these men and their considered commentaries, real decent men.
@Analytical2000
@Analytical2000 8 ай бұрын
Why no mention of the stamping incident. There is plenty of footage online about the South Africa prop Ox Nche stepping on Josh van der Flier's fingers.
@davidvickers8425
@davidvickers8425 8 ай бұрын
Weird one of our heavies had a giant gash after the springboks test at twickenham.
@dn822
@dn822 8 ай бұрын
😴 a Suzi story
@craigweideman6194
@craigweideman6194 8 ай бұрын
All I saw in that clip was JVF off his feet trying to hold Nche in at the ruck. Get a grip
@craigweideman6194
@craigweideman6194 8 ай бұрын
@@davidvickers8425 lol, so follow through mate, what's the implication?
@conchronic
@conchronic 8 ай бұрын
Considering he already dislocated his finger was it a convenient accident
@Joshuagilchrist55
@Joshuagilchrist55 8 ай бұрын
As a kiwi. The Irish fronted up no question and deserved to win. As for our chances of beating Ireland if that is indeed a conclusion for the QF ( not getting ahead of myself) then the ABs are going to have to be ruthless and clinical. We have to get through the next two games flawlessly. No cards, single digit penalty count etc… we will be punished if we are not clinical.
@JillanoBates
@JillanoBates 8 ай бұрын
All blacks can beat them..they were just hanging on there in last 20 minutes we werent clinical also strange deciscion on that last mall the ball was clearly out also believe tht should have been penalty no doubt but congrats to ireland
@Darren_S
@Darren_S 8 ай бұрын
Ireland is good but overrated.
@ciaranoconnor4027
@ciaranoconnor4027 8 ай бұрын
@@Darren_S 16 consecutive wins, including every top ten team in the rankings. Which part of their game is overrated? Please be as specific as you like.
@JillanoBates
@JillanoBates 8 ай бұрын
@@Darren_S lol but lets give them credit they beat my boks they just need to relax and calm down..i mean they were barely hanging in there in that last 20 minutes
@conchronic
@conchronic 8 ай бұрын
​@@Darren_Sat what point will Ireland not be overrated . Are France overrated as well. Who is not overrated only south Africa. Ireland won and were not near their best but they're overrated hopefully by the end of the tournament they'll be after beating enough teams to match or better their rating .
@kiaoragin
@kiaoragin 8 ай бұрын
The de Klerk kick that hit the post ended up in a try eventually so that 5 points you can take from the 11 missed. Plus Ireland turned down a kickable penalty early in the game and came away with nothing.
@user-fp6rn2km4i
@user-fp6rn2km4i 8 ай бұрын
no you can't because that was a try they worked for. If you start saying "what if" then the whole course of the game could've been different.
@Polfeck21
@Polfeck21 8 ай бұрын
It’s like saying, what if Italy beat New Zealand.
@jamieoshea1681
@jamieoshea1681 8 ай бұрын
@@user-fp6rn2km4iand try that wouldn’t have happened if the ball missed or when over.
@fmully1429
@fmully1429 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget to take away 5 points for the blatantly forward pass for south Africas try, how was that missed
@fmully1429
@fmully1429 8 ай бұрын
If you had of scored the first penalty you missed the game would of panned out differently and you might never have got those other penalty opportunities, so stop talking rubbish and accept defeat gracefully.
@kimholland9316
@kimholland9316 8 ай бұрын
Wilson is still sulking that everyone isnt talking about how wonderful NZ are
@TheDruzza
@TheDruzza 8 ай бұрын
Yea that deadbeat needs to move on and disappear
@wot4922
@wot4922 8 ай бұрын
As is Max from Black Jersey. Unsubscribed.
@davidfarmer3499
@davidfarmer3499 8 ай бұрын
i think its fine for NZ to operate below the radar...dont write them off as yet!!!!!
@kimholland9316
@kimholland9316 8 ай бұрын
I would never write them off. They are still in it.
@battievandermerwe9121
@battievandermerwe9121 8 ай бұрын
One converted penalty from either side would have changed the flow of the game.There would have been a kick off from the halfway line, and could have resulted in the other penalties not even being awarded. If a penalty is awarded as the last act of the game, with the points diffrence being 3 or less, then, and ONLY then, whether the kick is successful or not, will it influence the result. As regards to the Pollard/Libbok question - irrespective of Pollards kicking accuracy, the main diffrence is his defence. There is nothing Libbok can do which he can't do. He can run, pass, kick pass, chip-kick and gather, attack the gain line, and hit the gaps like few can do. It all depends on strategies and instructions. Examples: Libbok's missed tackle resulted in Roigard's try in the All Black vs Springbok game at Twickenham. The other missed tackle took place against Ireland, that resulted in Aki's break, and a subsequent try. In both cases, seven points handed to the opposition on a platter. In order to win a rugby game, a team must score more points than the oppostion. Defence, therefore is paramount. If you can keep the opposition from scoring at all, a team only has to score ONCE to win a game - whether it be a drop goal, penalty kick or try, it does not matter. Libbok's poor kicking at goal was not as big an influence on the result as everybody is trying to make out. I can understand the Springbok management being not to concerned for now. Come play-off time, accurate kicking is important to create scoreboard pressure, and converting "last act" kicks as it is MUST win situations, on order to progress.
@shaheempashua6924
@shaheempashua6924 8 ай бұрын
Very true This is the first game we lost that Manie started in
@karloshamilton5963
@karloshamilton5963 8 ай бұрын
Ireland went to the corners 3 times when they could have taken points so a real non issue.
@richardmatatahi4563
@richardmatatahi4563 8 ай бұрын
They didn't take those points on offer so you can't have what may have been, close game
@CptRumcan
@CptRumcan 8 ай бұрын
Ireland may have kicked more if they were behind, so let's call it a draw.
@richardmatatahi4563
@richardmatatahi4563 8 ай бұрын
not quite@@CptRumcan Ireland were deserved winners.
@rodericksmith9675
@rodericksmith9675 8 ай бұрын
LLLet it go you won I’m over it SAFA supporter here 😂
@Evan-fr6dv
@Evan-fr6dv 8 ай бұрын
Ha. They play again, springboks win. Fact. Ireland have no idea how to win the world cup
@thurmanmerman2720
@thurmanmerman2720 8 ай бұрын
Why would anyone want to play the French in a RWC quarter-final in Paris. Stade de France will be a furnace with an atmosphere never witnessed before by a SH audience. The SA players will need Rassie's stupid lights on the field just to communicate calls. They fooked up against Ireland even before kick off. They tried to play mind games, with Andre Farrell and Jonathan Sexton of all people, and screwed up their 2023 RWC tournament chances.
@jackieblue1267
@jackieblue1267 8 ай бұрын
Yes agree France on their home turf are going to be difficult to beat.
@struesbob7493
@struesbob7493 8 ай бұрын
It was a close game. Ireland congratulations.
@Emersonion
@Emersonion 8 ай бұрын
Jeff, some good points voiced. Looking forward to an AB/Irish QF!
@ronansimpson6807
@ronansimpson6807 8 ай бұрын
South Africa would have loved NZ in the quarters
@JayP744
@JayP744 8 ай бұрын
Don’t think so. Ireland wants it so let them have it….
@HemiJB91
@HemiJB91 8 ай бұрын
Actually it turned out best to lose and play France. Dupont is done. Bad management made by France for letting him play a tier 2 team. NZ knows how's to get the best of the springboks. Never count them out. I feel like Ireland will choke again.
@jackieblue1267
@jackieblue1267 8 ай бұрын
Any team will have difficulty playing France on their own turf. However whether a team play France or New Zealand it is going to require the best from either Ireland or South Africa. Still Ireland have to play Scotland so it is still not decided.
@HemiJB91
@HemiJB91 8 ай бұрын
@@jackieblue1267 even if Scotland beat Ireland. Scotland won't advance due to point differences
@irishpride9867
@irishpride9867 8 ай бұрын
​@@HemiJB91😂😂😂
@colmancooney9213
@colmancooney9213 8 ай бұрын
Guys, im Irish, but Scotland have a massive say in this. Take every game one at a time. Scots are a tough team to beat
@jackieblue1267
@jackieblue1267 8 ай бұрын
Yes agree. Take each game at a time. Scots will be up for this as they can still get a place in the quarters.
@alanhutchins5916
@alanhutchins5916 8 ай бұрын
When they turn up under the hypno psyche they’re playing England… Then they’re world beaters…🙄🤨
@tauriquesedick2300
@tauriquesedick2300 8 ай бұрын
Ireland just played their final in the group stage it reminds me of England playing their final against nz last world cup
@henkstols9326
@henkstols9326 8 ай бұрын
Big factor for Ireland is the crowd that came to their last game, they love the support and thrived off it. I think the AB are capable of beating them but will have to be at their best like they did against SA in NZ. Hold onto possession and shift it wide fast, the Irish defense seemed vulnerable at times against the Boks and we couldnt get the final pass away which the AB can do. QF are going to be tough to watch and Fiji looks like they the form SH team at the moment that could get to a semi.
@ronnievorster6361
@ronnievorster6361 8 ай бұрын
You not playimg at home
@overthrowaudio
@overthrowaudio 8 ай бұрын
"Did the right team win?" - What an odd way to begin this 'analysis' - Yeah SA missed some kicks but 2 of them were speculative efforts from a long way out and they scored a try from one of those misses that hit the post. Ireland lost 4 lineouts 5 meters out, they left points out there too!
@kesivan
@kesivan 8 ай бұрын
Loosing a line out … or it getting stolen is not the same as missing kicks !
@Frank-dr9tc
@Frank-dr9tc 8 ай бұрын
@@kesivanit is when you consider irelands try rates from lineouts within the 22
@craigweideman6194
@craigweideman6194 8 ай бұрын
@@Frank-dr9tc no it isnt. You miss line outs because of the level of opposition pressure. Missing kicks has nothing to do with the quality of the opposition
@shanemcdonagh1979
@shanemcdonagh1979 8 ай бұрын
But missing kick's has nothing to do with pressure and Sheehan back Ireland's lineout will only get better
@phil23915
@phil23915 8 ай бұрын
With the power of the driving mall defense,you can't say that Ireland left points out there,the noks missed penalties which is more certain,that's why they lost,I don't think it's going to happen if the sides are to meet again
@francoisbezuidenhout4638
@francoisbezuidenhout4638 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget that each game is played and planned for one purpose only: i.e. to win the WC. It really is a game of chess the whole tournament through. Who you would like to meet in the quarters, semi's etc. Those kind of permutations..
@elijahreubensmith395
@elijahreubensmith395 8 ай бұрын
Finally someone who understand that you have to plan ahead to the Final! Bravo
@francoisbezuidenhout4638
@francoisbezuidenhout4638 8 ай бұрын
@@elijahreubensmith395 i'm not just a pretty face...😉😂💪
@Joshuagilchrist55
@Joshuagilchrist55 8 ай бұрын
On a complete side note anyone see the tackle on the Scottish player from the Tongan today? If degroot got a red and a ban HOW ON EARTH did that Tongan get away with a yellow? It was night and day different from the de groot tackle and yet somehow they get away with it?
@harshbutfair8993
@harshbutfair8993 8 ай бұрын
You could term it as a grudge match for us too if you were so inclined. As we keep getting told, the friendly games mean little, and you hammered us in the 2019 QF, one to be frank where we were expected to lose, so it's a chance for us for some sort of redemption for that too, but I'll take a one point victory 😋
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim 8 ай бұрын
Grudge= Revenge. If you seek revenge be sure to dig yourself two deep holes. You may end up needing one yourself. No: Just go play. Best on the day comes in first.
@LeMerch
@LeMerch 8 ай бұрын
Ireland beat the Boks with a dysfunctional line out and kept kicking for the corners instead of the posts. Ireland could have been far ahead of they decided to kick posts instead.
@natecoet3291
@natecoet3291 8 ай бұрын
Ahah change the tune if they only kicked at posts they would not score a try. Ireland win fair and square it was a close game. SA just left too many points out there doesn't change Ireland was the better team. That being said this argument of going for corners is idiotic teams go for corners usually, SA did the same at one point. Not like they are all assured 3 points. Imagine if Sexton had missed two kicks you could say the same that Ireland left points in the field. And it would be correct. Which he didn't so Ireland took the opportunities and capitalized well unlike the Boks. It's a fact. I can't believe it has to be explained.
@LeMerch
@LeMerch 8 ай бұрын
@@natecoet3291 I’m using the South African logic. Every single video is ‘we should have won, we left points on the table out there’. I was waiting for someone to come along and spell it out. So thank you.
@Darren_S
@Darren_S 8 ай бұрын
And SA didn't play to their strengths. It's odd that they went for goal, an obvious weakness, which makes the whole 7-1 split tactic pointless.
@theofilusbouwer3430
@theofilusbouwer3430 8 ай бұрын
​@@LeMerchso 20% place kicking is something you say is normal at this the highest level of the game 😂 What's the Irish moaning about you only scored 13 points 1 try won by 5 if it was let's say you beat boks by 35 - 7 5 tries to 1 that would justify you being cocky 😅
@Analytical2000
@Analytical2000 8 ай бұрын
The Irish were deserving winners. They fought for every inch and every point and despite them being ranked number one for over a year, they were not giving the credit they deserved entering this game. In short, the lean, mean, green, fighting Irish rugby machine was operational last night.
@mark130471
@mark130471 8 ай бұрын
Stay humble bro, 11 missing off the tee for the Bok... that's most unusual. If the Ireland machine was fully operational then Ireland has a problem.
@Analytical2000
@Analytical2000 8 ай бұрын
@@mark130471 Don't worry, I will bro. The Irish lso left points out there. They kicked for lineouts from very kickable penalties. Also the Irish had far more turnovers than the South Africans.
@vdw_12500
@vdw_12500 8 ай бұрын
​@@Analytical2000well the boks also went for lineouts a few times on penalties rather than posts besides the 11pts.
@Analytical2000
@Analytical2000 8 ай бұрын
@@vdw_12500 not as much as Ireland did
@vdw_12500
@vdw_12500 8 ай бұрын
@@Analytical2000 No, in other instances the Boks went for the scrum. Truth is, Ireland won. Decisions were made that not one single person will ever be able to predict WOULD have changed or better any result. Put your emotions aside and take note that both teams had plenty of oppertunities missed. Rugby isn't just line outs and penalty goals. There are shitloads of decisions going on. And Ireland won this POOL MATCH. Likely 4 MORE of the same standard high pressured games lie ahead for them before they can say they have won a WC. So keep talking big. The Irish fans sound quite inexperienced. And I don't blame them.
@korocam9137
@korocam9137 8 ай бұрын
Ok it’s nice these guys want to look at potential quarterfinals, but let’s just focus on Italy first then the last pool match alright.
@thurmanmerman2720
@thurmanmerman2720 8 ай бұрын
Current Italy are not the chumps that people might think they are. Both Ireland's recent victories against them are 4Ts to 2Ts. France scraped by 29-25 in the Six Nations. A straightforward 4 try bonus point win and no injuries would constitute a good day at the office. The black jersey may get the young Italian team star struck though.
@zeroconnection
@zeroconnection 8 ай бұрын
​@@thurmanmerman2720 I expect a bonus point win for Zealand. Hopefully I'm wrong but I think Italy has gotten worse since the six nations.
@fonz114
@fonz114 8 ай бұрын
Come on Italy Shock the world !
@riri1718
@riri1718 8 ай бұрын
SA gave Ireland the bait and they took it 😂
@johnhanson5943
@johnhanson5943 8 ай бұрын
Ire came in calm and focused. SA came in too full of emotion and without a good place kicker. They made a huge number of mistakes. Ire deserved the win. More focused and less mistakes. SA could easily have won that game - and probably should have. I see them coming back stronger in KO stages.
@stephan-wesselswart5934
@stephan-wesselswart5934 8 ай бұрын
This means you fellas have got a game on your hands in the quarters.
@petes9524
@petes9524 6 ай бұрын
Turns out it was the trigger to the Boks digging deep into their SAFFA grit and using that to pave the way to the top of the RWC mountain,.. again,..for the fourth time,.. back to back.🔥🏆🏆🏆🏆🇿🇦
@louisvanderwalt716
@louisvanderwalt716 8 ай бұрын
The game against Ireland is history Put it behind you and move on Springboks need to focus on each game on hand, stay calm and do your best What ever happens let it be l am a proud supporter of the springboks, winning or not 🇿🇦🏉💪
@nosiphosobekwa9316
@nosiphosobekwa9316 8 ай бұрын
Exactly : Now it is like Springboks are meant to win All the time. Kingdoms rise and fall. Wallabies used to lead the world, so is Newzealand. Springbok had its chances as well. What’s wrong loosing sometimes- rugby would be monotonous. Go try again Bokke, you ca do it again- Bokke fan. I am not loosing any hope for now. Truly speaking it was not Bokke day, Ireland was not too strong for Bokke.
@westscotindex8972
@westscotindex8972 8 ай бұрын
Losing Marx was significant for the Boks.
@dairet1945
@dairet1945 8 ай бұрын
What about their famous depth 😮?
@dazza4345
@dazza4345 8 ай бұрын
Ireland losing Healy before the World Cup was significant 😮
@dazza4345
@dazza4345 8 ай бұрын
Ireland detonated the bomb squad.
@TheWildernessChannel
@TheWildernessChannel 8 ай бұрын
​@@dazza4345Actually the Boks bomb squad got three penalties for South Africa that could have made a huge difference had our kicks gone over. Ireland did not dominate over them. They got pushed back in the scrum immediately after the bomb squad arrived.
@nickrad6966
@nickrad6966 8 ай бұрын
Marx and Pollard would have won this game
@MN-yb2ty
@MN-yb2ty 8 ай бұрын
Still think this loss was nore tactical than anything else.... not dissing france but AB SA have mixed fortunes where i think we stand a better than average chance of beating the french... besides that would be nice to kick them out since the bribed their way to hosting and stealing it from SA. Anyways ireland nz game will be killer to watch and i think like in 2019 Ireland played their final against us and wont be able to replicate that performance again against nz
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 8 ай бұрын
Delusional, clearly a casual fan of the sport.
@commentwell3870
@commentwell3870 8 ай бұрын
This 7-1 thing was an experiment. It did not back-fire, but it also showed the Boks what wors/doesnt work...
@brianstalker1
@brianstalker1 8 ай бұрын
Guys you keep forgetting that Scotland can still qualify
@natecoet3291
@natecoet3291 8 ай бұрын
Imagine Scotland beating Ireland and Ireland ending up third in the pool stage that would be insane.
@fonz114
@fonz114 8 ай бұрын
They won't
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 8 ай бұрын
@@natecoet3291It would but it won’t happen. Scotland fans are the most optimistic fans ever!
@liamjohnhawkins4212
@liamjohnhawkins4212 8 ай бұрын
They have to get a bonus point and Ireland not getting within 7 of them or not getting their own bonus point. Anything is possible wouldn’t write off Scotland. Red cards are possible in any game
@sundaze7089
@sundaze7089 8 ай бұрын
On form , Ireland will beat All Blacks . Good to hear some more humility in Goldies analysis , he knows whats really up .
@davidrhodes7655
@davidrhodes7655 8 ай бұрын
It's all on the day !
@garybaltiejus7248
@garybaltiejus7248 8 ай бұрын
Ab,s haven't had to use as much energy as the Irish, so don't count your chooks to early, you might just get a shock
@user-sn3ch4mt4i
@user-sn3ch4mt4i 8 ай бұрын
I remember France v NZ in the 87 WC. That was my introduction to the All Blacks apparently the mightiest sports team ever to walk on Earth.
@okedokeerolchoke9929
@okedokeerolchoke9929 8 ай бұрын
Sincerely pleasant surprised how gracious the boks fans have been in defeat 👏🏼
@richardmatatahi4563
@richardmatatahi4563 8 ай бұрын
It means the All Blacks have to win, this was what we All Blacks fans wanted to avenge our Series lost last year for now the priority is Italy, & Uruguay, and securing 2nd spot to make the Quarter finals.
@conchronic
@conchronic 8 ай бұрын
Maybe Ireland want to avenge the last world cup quarter so have top trumps on avenging.
@wildebeest88
@wildebeest88 8 ай бұрын
South Africa showed how the AB can play against Ireland.
@henkstols9326
@henkstols9326 8 ай бұрын
Not the AB game style unfortunately, they can however beat them.playing AB rugby I think.
@colinfuller6361
@colinfuller6361 8 ай бұрын
If the ABs get to the quarterfinals Ireland will certainly be the favourites- but anything can happen as we have already seen in the tournament!
@philchris3854
@philchris3854 8 ай бұрын
Yeah NaH sorry won't happen. Try next world cup
@eoinyessesmaguire1636
@eoinyessesmaguire1636 8 ай бұрын
I no the Boks left pts out there with the pns but so did our team with the lineout the Boks did great job at disrupting our lineout hard not to with players nearly 7 foot but that's were we get alot of our tries I do think if Sheehan plays that gets sorted?? But here I do hope that if we get the final we avoid another war playing a more attacking team suits us.. We can't get carried away and not forget New Zealand and France?? But what a game 2 best sides going at it only started to recover on Monday, Massive respect to the Boks👍☘☘☘
@sliceofbacon
@sliceofbacon 8 ай бұрын
This lot are ridiculous they are still not rating Ireland as being well above the ABs is almost every way. They need to be looking at the Italian game instead of this rubbish about meeting Ireland in the QF. The azzurri will have been targeting this game
@BorthaGray
@BorthaGray 8 ай бұрын
The Ab are not a shoe in v Italy! Could be NZ out like Aust in pool play. AB no chance against Ireland!
@harshbutfair8993
@harshbutfair8993 8 ай бұрын
I agree that ABs aren't a shoe in against Italy, but they will be strong favs. Also as an Irishman no way I'm thinking we will have anything but another tough game versus NZ if we do meet in the QFs (as seems likely enough now)
@EbenJ2010
@EbenJ2010 8 ай бұрын
If ABs lose against Italy it will be worse than SA losing to Japan. No chance of that happening, but guess you have to fane humility. ABs salivating at the chance to destroy Ireland after last year’s series win
@barneyboy2008
@barneyboy2008 8 ай бұрын
Well, a red card and anything is possible. I see Ireland were extremely careful to not put themselves in a position to get a card against SA. No challenging in the air. They back themselves to steal it on the ground. Stop them from doing that and pressure will build. But the all black players are terrible at getting isolated. That will lose us the match against Ireland.
@sliceofbacon
@sliceofbacon 8 ай бұрын
@@EbenJ2010 dunno about that they play too loose at the moment. Ireland defence will eat them up. SA back three got very little return against Ireland and they are world class. Abs will be trying to defend against shadows and feints with Ireland who can clearly maintain intensity for 80 minutes. I’m not sure ABS can do that yet with this current group of players
@craigscoinpurse
@craigscoinpurse 8 ай бұрын
I think both teams tried things. More so south africa to see where their kickers were from 50 out. in a final you will see south africa kick to the corner and build maul pressure, not go for a speccy 50m penalty. rassie for me wanted to see if faf was able to under pressure form that spot and he failed so now raisie will strategise for that ahead of pollard coming back. it was a game to test and tweak imo.
@wirigumbie5798
@wirigumbie5798 8 ай бұрын
First time in a long time Jeff said something smart 😂
@markrutherford6010
@markrutherford6010 8 ай бұрын
We need to get our selections just right. We need X Factors on the Bench. Roigard,Faigna’anuku need be on that Bench.
@ismailfrancis6159
@ismailfrancis6159 8 ай бұрын
NZ pundits are very insightful when they're not complaining about referees.
@benjaminnivison5229
@benjaminnivison5229 8 ай бұрын
As a bok supporter I am actually quite relieved we are not playing the All Blacks
@nepiahemopo1702
@nepiahemopo1702 8 ай бұрын
As an AB fan, I'm happy not playing SA.😂
@conchronic
@conchronic 8 ай бұрын
Nothing confirmed yet and why fear AB s most saffas pretty confident they're winning the world cup .
@philchris3854
@philchris3854 8 ай бұрын
​@@conchronicrubbish bru
@rossmorebaz
@rossmorebaz 8 ай бұрын
as an irish fan .. i fiind it utterly incredible that we can actually look forward to playing the All blacks and be confident of beating them ... For the last 50 years years.. basically since i was a kid .whenever we used to play the All blacks.. such was the fear and awe and respect that we had for them ... Ireland would be defeated in mind body and spirit before the game even started .. we were already defeated before kick off !!.... thats all changed now and we know that we can compete with NZ, and we know that we are actually as good of not better in some areas ... i also believe that the Irish coaching ticket is far smarter and much more innovative the New Zealands current coaching team , but we can expect that Scott Robertson will bring the All blacks back to the Glory days once he takes over
@jacqloock
@jacqloock 8 ай бұрын
As a Safrican, I wouldn’t be so confident if I were you. New Zealand didn’t start playing rugby yesterday.
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 8 ай бұрын
@@jacqloock The All Blacks are 13-8-1 in their last 22 games, Ireland are 28-2 in their last 30 with multiple wins over every top team other than france (only 1 win) including a record of 3-1 against the AB, 3 of those games being in NZ. Let's be real here, it's an uphill battle for NZ, this isn't the 2016 all blacks and this isn't Ireland a decade ago.
@jacqloock
@jacqloock 8 ай бұрын
@@randomuruk7230 Like I said, welcome to the top table, Paddie. You’ve been here 20min. Them, 120y. You’re gonna absolutely smash them. They’re easy beats.
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 8 ай бұрын
@@jacqloock Lmao Ireland have a winning record against both the boks (5-2) and Ab's (5-4) for the past decade, like I said still stuck in the past. Ireland could have easily beaten SA 22-3 if the ref had eyes and saw the blatant obstruction during the illegal bok try and if they weren't so stubborn turning down 3 easy kicking opportunities to try prove a point with those horrendous line outs. You're lucky you haven't been made a complete laughingstock. You'll be kicked out of the quarters by those penalty merchants in France if their defense holds up anywhere near as well as ours did. You better hope your team is more up to date with the present than you are or there won't be any SH teams in the semis.
@Pacificbertaboy
@Pacificbertaboy 8 ай бұрын
@@randomuruk7230 stay humble man. Yes Ireland have been an amazing team these past few years and their fans should be stoked for them and rightfully so. The Southern Hemisphere teams can still make the semifinals. We all know what happened to the Northern Hemisphere teams during the quarterfinals back in 2015 in England
@ianmullen1940
@ianmullen1940 8 ай бұрын
joe Schmidt will be massive for AB's but Ireland know what to expect from him. Sometimes he can be over structured which does not suit the AB's expanded type of play they traditionally play.
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 8 ай бұрын
Good fair analysis gents. As an Irish fan, I'd rather be playing France in the quarters than the ABs. The ABs still have an aura about them in Ireland, we know the French and know that we can beat them regularly. You don't often beat the ABs twice in a row. Ireland still have to get out of the group as do SA. Scotland could yet have a say in who is first or second in that group. What a pity that two of France, NZ,SA and Ireland will not get by the Qtrs. Wales and Fiji are looking good for an easy route to the semi's, but I feel that they will be out-classed by which teams win "our" tougher qtr finals. Can wait !
@jeanm27
@jeanm27 8 ай бұрын
Great feedback, as a SA fan, I must say that I agree with you. I am not sure what the final will look line of the Top 5 teams in the world have knocked each other out and will play who ever is on the other side of the pools... Semi's might just determine the RWC Winners, who knows.
@alexandregarcia9726
@alexandregarcia9726 8 ай бұрын
Since when Ireland beat France regularly? In the last four years, France won 3 out of their 4 games against Ireland. Sounds a bit arrogant to me. That's good then.
@shanebrennan6396
@shanebrennan6396 8 ай бұрын
Didn't we beat AB twice in a row last year in NZ
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 8 ай бұрын
And how many times did we beat them before that ? The ABs will be relishing the thought of playing Ireland. New Zealand 46-14 Ireland, that my friend is a pasting. If they can stuff us like that 4 years ago do you really think that they will be scared of playing us now ? I don't think so. @@shanebrennan6396
@gavinoconnor5065
@gavinoconnor5065 8 ай бұрын
Team's don't look at the all Black's the way they used to things have changed, not taking anything away from the massive impact new Zealand have and had in Rugby but the landscape has changed
@austingtir
@austingtir 8 ай бұрын
BS its only Ireland and maybe France up north that are really great teams and have a realistic chance of beating the AB's at more than a 50% rate (and I suspect Ireland might get a shock in a few weeks time). Lets see how the AB's do from next year with Razor in charge because everyone in NZ knows Ian Foster should of never got the job in the first place its was an old mates deal. Fosters biggest mistake is not selecting Blackadder as the first choice openside from 2021 when he emerged. He could of been another McCaw for us but these clowns that are running NZ rugby atm are clueless.
@harshbutfair8993
@harshbutfair8993 8 ай бұрын
If NZ beat us it won't be a shock, it'll be very disappointing, also it won't be a shock if we beat you, I think you'll find it reflected in the bookmakers odds, course getting ahead of ourselves, it's not definitive that we meet in the quarters, though it's looking likely.
@austingtir
@austingtir 8 ай бұрын
@@harshbutfair8993 Irelands clearly the best team in the world atm but for the AB's id be more concerned about the French in a crunch match just because of their style of play. For me Ireland are a 50/50 proposition with the french at 60/40 to the french at full strength (now they've had those two injuries if the half back isnt back for the crunch games then them back to 50/50. Certainly if Ireland beat us they'll be kicking themselves if they dont go all the way. I can deff see the AB's knocking a team like Ireland off in one game then loosing in the final to SA or the French in a slaughter thats just the mindset and wrongly selected players we have out there atm.
@nickrad6966
@nickrad6966 8 ай бұрын
Marx and Pollard would have won this game for Boks as breakdown accuracy and goal kicking was only thing lacking. Set piece, defence and gain line physicality all there for Boks
@mtnstrand2819
@mtnstrand2819 8 ай бұрын
Ireland will again not make it further than the quarter finals. I believe it's going to be a Springbok-All Black final.
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 8 ай бұрын
No Southern Hemisphere team is making a semi.
@ccrino9525
@ccrino9525 8 ай бұрын
The boks are in for a real tough quarters. Cannot see them beaten the french. French have the power to match the so called bomb squad and scrum. Have the speed and skill on the wings to penetrate the boks defense. Quality kickers that do not miss and a good line out. It will be a challanging night for the boks
@natecoet3291
@natecoet3291 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it will be hard. SA will have to be more precise. Although France can also miss kicks they missed a bunch in the opener. I think SA should target lineouts more like they did to NZ and stop always aiming for posts.
@Darren_S
@Darren_S 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the French totally dominated a 14 men Boks side in their last game that they had to sneak over a double movement winning try in the last minute. The Boks love to be seen as the underdog and to be underestimated. Ireland did us a favor because we aren't seen as the favorites anymore.
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 8 ай бұрын
Meuh, I woundnt the too sure about that.
@henkstols9326
@henkstols9326 8 ай бұрын
If Pollard is back and on form we have a chance but I suspect he wont be. Hate to admit it as a Bok fan but we have a big mountain to climb.
@jonathanlaue3460
@jonathanlaue3460 8 ай бұрын
It’s time the Kiwis gave Ireland a reality check. I can’t see Ireland beating the traditionally two best teams in rugby history, the Springboks and the All Blacks back to back. Something is seriously awry with Southern Hemisphere rugby if this was to occur.
@bryanthompson6187
@bryanthompson6187 8 ай бұрын
I think you need a reality check pal
@barneyboy2008
@barneyboy2008 8 ай бұрын
​@@bryanthompson6187to be fair, throughout history it has been difficult to get more than 17-18 wins on the trot because eventually the bounce of the ball and the refereeing don't go your way. I'd say that will be more of a factor than a reality check.
@barneyboy2008
@barneyboy2008 8 ай бұрын
Something if awry with all black rugby. We have a muppet called fozzie bear in charge.
@LiverPools-ib5fv
@LiverPools-ib5fv 8 ай бұрын
What does "traditionally" mean if in REALITY, TODAY, youre NOT the best 😂🤣 you dont win on ego mate 😂
@johnmurphy9304
@johnmurphy9304 8 ай бұрын
History dosent win you games, you should know that by now. History didn't lose our games 20 years ago, wooden spoons in 5 nations ,Hammerings by southern nations. We were not good enough, we needed to change, our mindset needed change, our whole set up needed change. History got Fk all to do with it.
@zido4484
@zido4484 8 ай бұрын
For the first time , I've actually listened to these 3 musketeers till the end 😂 Normally I switch them off after the first sentence
@waynerockman1242
@waynerockman1242 8 ай бұрын
With the qaurters matchups there are 2 fantastic games in the offing. As a saffa i would really like the ABs to beat Ireland just to bring them down to earth a little. Only 2 teams can beat them ...SA and the Kiwis
@ratemybeers6406
@ratemybeers6406 8 ай бұрын
If Johnny sexton was kicking for south Africa they would have won😮
@ashleysoudah
@ashleysoudah 8 ай бұрын
If I picked the right numbers I would have won the lottery.
@user-fp6rn2km4i
@user-fp6rn2km4i 8 ай бұрын
1. Am 2. Marx 3. Pollard 4. Vermeulen 5. De Jager Just saying. SA lost, but nobody shouldn't get too far ahead of themselves.
@mark130471
@mark130471 8 ай бұрын
When you put it like that... well... yup. Both Am and Marx missing... that some serious talent not on the pitch
@fawltyoldboybasil.2178
@fawltyoldboybasil.2178 8 ай бұрын
You might want to address that getting 'too far ahead of themselves' advice to some of the Bok fans on here. A few real beauties in that group spent all last week telling the world exactly what the Boks were going to do to Ireland - REALITY was going to hit Ireland between the teeth when the Boks get their hands on them!!!!! Didn't happen. Now having lost that match some Boks fans are banging on about how we apparently have lost our grip on REALITY AGAIN!!
@user-fp6rn2km4i
@user-fp6rn2km4i 8 ай бұрын
@fawltyoldboybasil.2178 you're right, I also noticed siya singing and clapping on his way out the tunnel meanwhile all the other players were quiet and stoic. I thought that was not fitting considering the pedigree of this irish team. You show respect where respect is due.
@samukelezulu5596
@samukelezulu5596 8 ай бұрын
@@user-fp6rn2km4i I think you are reading into that very negatively. Why would you look at it that way and not him psyching himself up and the team for the task at hand ?
@conchronic
@conchronic 8 ай бұрын
​@@user-fp6rn2km4iI ve seen him do that in club rugby and as an Irish fan didn't see it as disrespectful.
@lillad4922
@lillad4922 8 ай бұрын
Nice , to see the all blacks fans humble, the boks were telling us irish fans they were goin to murder us , there's not a lot of talk that newzealand smashed ireland in the first test match , goin be a great match , and I honestly belive newzealand are the best equipped ream to beat us , that said ireland by 10
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 8 ай бұрын
The All blacks are 13-8-1 in their last 22, Ireland are 28-2 of their last 30 including a record of 3-1 over NZ. Wouldn't really make sense to be as arrogant as the boks.
@neilmontgomery3470
@neilmontgomery3470 8 ай бұрын
As an Irish fan I don't think there is any actual game advantage to facing either New Zealand or France in the quarter final. They are both terrific teams who could knock us out of the tournament. However, I do think there is a benefit to finishing your pool unbeaten which is what the Ireland team are striving to do. This is particularly tough to do in one of the hardest world cup pools ever, and would have value as such. Winning generates confidence and confidence generates winning. Another bonus might be that if Ireland avoid the host nation they more than likely will have the majority of the crowd on their side and effectively have home field advantage as was the case against the Boks last week. However, I wont start banging my drum for a few weeks yet.
@louisvanderwalt716
@louisvanderwalt716 8 ай бұрын
Springboks need to focus on the game against Tonga now The game against Ireland is history They have to win Tonga 60+
@2011hwalker
@2011hwalker 8 ай бұрын
totally irrelevant game. SA need to focus on their kicking and look ahead to france.
@louisvanderwalt716
@louisvanderwalt716 8 ай бұрын
@@2011hwalker if you think you can ignore Tonga you are in for a big surprise Don't get ahead of yourself You have seen what did happen against Ireland
@KallousKiwi
@KallousKiwi 8 ай бұрын
SA have had remarkable luck the last 2 world cups. I personally don’t think they would have won the World Cup had they won their opening game vs the ABs. The fact that Japan won their pool and ended up as the Boks QF, and then a relatively average Wales as a semi meant they had much more in the tank. I can see exactly the same scenario, a depleted France (though much better than a home Japan) and then Fiji/Argentina semi.
@emmatsebe1468
@emmatsebe1468 8 ай бұрын
As Boks fan ,I m respecting everyone including Ireland ,let's see who wins the World Cup 😂😂😂
@Darren_S
@Darren_S 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, often from a Kiwi perspective if the Boks win it's usually anything except that they actually deserved to win. But of course if the All Blacks win there is never any luck involved.
@KallousKiwi
@KallousKiwi 8 ай бұрын
@@Darren_S the draw is a whole lot of luck, amplified this year with 4 of the best teams head to head by QF time. Getting on the right side of that equation is massive. Something the ABs have not done at a World Cup, they always seem to be in their worst case scenario for matchup at QF~
@vdw_12500
@vdw_12500 8 ай бұрын
I suspect you refute to Boks being lucky to win England in the final after beating them quite marginally and after they beat you thoroughly aswell?
@KallousKiwi
@KallousKiwi 8 ай бұрын
@@vdw_12500 no not at all. I was at the game and the Boks were fabulous. They were the best team at the final. But just like a good game of rock paper scissors. England, SA, NZ we’re the three teams and all beat each other and the only game of significance was the final.
@pscot9620
@pscot9620 8 ай бұрын
In regards to the boks penalties . Fafs 2 were inside there half and the pen that hit the post the scored a try from. So it was 5 points left out there . Ireland blew 3 line outs in boks 22 inside the first 20 mins.
@MrFootylegend123
@MrFootylegend123 8 ай бұрын
First time I have seen rugby challenge commentator in person.
@vineshnaidoo9402
@vineshnaidoo9402 8 ай бұрын
Sitting in a room full of AB supporters , It seems Green is the new Black....does not bother us as. Easily the best 2 teams in the Competition....part 2 coming up in the Finals.
@seandoran2209
@seandoran2209 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for that, fair play to you .
@DavidSmith-yi8ou
@DavidSmith-yi8ou 8 ай бұрын
So there will be no nerves among green fans for the quarterfinals because France and ABs are absolutely useless? Please keep thinking the WC is played to a script. The exact opposite of what you said is absolutely possible.
@standelone1674
@standelone1674 8 ай бұрын
Ugh,England will contest in yet another final with the boks,and break alot of hearts in the process.We want the kiwis up for ireland,strange no irish injuries post boks game announced yet?
@barneyboy2008
@barneyboy2008 8 ай бұрын
​@@standelone1674They will meet in the semis not the final now.
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns
@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns 8 ай бұрын
Something tells me that unfortunate loss to Ireland is a blessing in disguise for South Africa. If the Boks knock out the hosts then I think they'll win the cup once again. The hosts are ultimately the team to beat especially if you want to go all the way. I'm 100% sure that if Pollard had started then they would've won that game. Any decent kicker scores those opportunities missed by Libbok. Libbok is kak.
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 8 ай бұрын
A decent ref and you wouldn't have got a try for a blatant obstruction, not to mention that try came from a missed kick. Ireland also turned down 3 easy kicking opportunities for horrendous lineouts out of stubbornness to try make a statement. Could have very easily been 22-3 to Ireland.
@Chess323
@Chess323 8 ай бұрын
The intensity of the Quarter finals is a different Intensity to the pool matches it would be similar to the Ireland and Springboks game, I like how the All blacks are flying under radar right now.
@barneyboy2008
@barneyboy2008 8 ай бұрын
Ireland are red hot favourites, ABs big underdogs.
@jackieblue1267
@jackieblue1267 8 ай бұрын
Ireland have been flying under the radar until they beat the Boks. I'm in Australia and ex-Wallaby players on Rugby Haven predicted there would be an upset with Tonga beating Ireland and a couple of others predicted South Africa would beat them in this match. I don't think anyone would take the All Blacks for granted. They are legendary.
@theroogie
@theroogie 8 ай бұрын
I tell you now, springbok fans are happy to play a weak French team over the All Blacks. You guys are in a bit of strife though now. Ireland are hard mate. I think rassie isnt too worried with the way it’s panned out because we can beat Ireland in a final. We just need to get there. Basically I respect a wounded AB's more than the French
@Pacificbertaboy
@Pacificbertaboy 8 ай бұрын
You aren’t guaranteed to play France yet lol. If the French fall to Italy and New Zealand beat Italy then you will be facing NZ in the quarterfinals
@theroogie
@theroogie 8 ай бұрын
Maybe but not likely. All blacks could still upset Ireland @@Pacificbertaboy
@siphoalfredngwenya4629
@siphoalfredngwenya4629 8 ай бұрын
Funny how you lot took the 2 mics instead of 3 backlash to heart. 😂
@johannblignaut1966
@johannblignaut1966 8 ай бұрын
🇿🇦NZ can be very proud of the the performance so far of Ben O’Keefe.Certainly a contender to referee the final if AB’s don’t play in it.
@FloatLikeABee
@FloatLikeABee 8 ай бұрын
Saffa here, I will tell you all now, this Kiwi team is a downed Lion, much like the Boks were in 2019. Write NZ off at your own peril. I expect a massive resurgence from this team. Hope to see you in the final, All Blacks. 💪
@mogamadridwaan1809
@mogamadridwaan1809 8 ай бұрын
As a Boks supporter and a coach, this loss was genius on the part of Rassie and Jacques. Absolute genius. Ireland was beautifully set up to bring their A game. Yet SA struggled to lose the game, too many missed opportunities for such a world class team. We now Ireland has to contend with the All Blacks. Either way, it's a knock out. France is a better option for the knockouts than the All Blacks. SA wants our 4th WC Championship win. There has never been a better time than now to cement our position as the greatest rugby nation ever. That being said, the competition is tough and only the best team will win on the day. All the best to all the teams. Only the best can win 🎉
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 8 ай бұрын
Completely delusional, if it wasn't for a blind ref giving you an illegal try for an obstruction and Ireland being too stubborn, trying to make a statement turning down 3 very kickable opportunities in favour of horrendous lineouts over and over again. Ireland could have very easily won 22-3.
@duncanb8186
@duncanb8186 8 ай бұрын
Ireland didn't win this game the Springboks lost it, terrible kicking by them to many lost points
@keith-anthonyoneill4222
@keith-anthonyoneill4222 8 ай бұрын
Makes no sense. Ireland won the game.
@jamieoshea1681
@jamieoshea1681 8 ай бұрын
Yes because Ireland didn’t also leave points behind…. Oh wait they did which makes your point moot
@fmully1429
@fmully1429 8 ай бұрын
Someone's a sore loser😂😂😂
@patrickoconnor6566
@patrickoconnor6566 8 ай бұрын
Oh,the first bitter bokkie raises it head.
@robertpirsig5011
@robertpirsig5011 8 ай бұрын
Wtf? 2 of the kicks were from Half way. You have less than 50% chance of making them and you are sore about it. In fact you actually got a try from one that hit the post. You can't have it every way.
@quentinadkins432
@quentinadkins432 8 ай бұрын
High tempo wounded AB's gonna be interesting
@Dilmahkana
@Dilmahkana 8 ай бұрын
Ireland know how to plan to dismantle teams. I have no doubt they've worked us out even after our developments since the 2022 series. It just depends on their execution and if we bring something new (which we might but it'll only work early on not the entire match). We would prefer SA since we know them better.
@David-fw2bt
@David-fw2bt 8 ай бұрын
Goal kicking
@CianOMahony-hc4jl
@CianOMahony-hc4jl 8 ай бұрын
Lineouts
@CianOMahony-hc4jl
@CianOMahony-hc4jl 8 ай бұрын
@@Mark777h Your forwards cheated in the lineout. Eventually the ref picked up on it when the Irish players finally said something. Eben was shoulder to shoulder with James Ryan.
@CianOMahony-hc4jl
@CianOMahony-hc4jl 8 ай бұрын
​@@Mark777hWell it's a fact they got away with breaking the rules during a potential try scoring opportunity close to the tryline Nothing personal intended. All the best.
@AB-lq1zd
@AB-lq1zd 8 ай бұрын
Wasn't the safa try a blatent forward pass? Let go on the 5 and caught at the 2..
@philipkoekemoer4705
@philipkoekemoer4705 8 ай бұрын
Do you know what forward momentum is?
@jamieoshea1681
@jamieoshea1681 8 ай бұрын
@@philipkoekemoer4705do you know that’s irrelevant, forward from the thrower is forward.
@philipkoekemoer4705
@philipkoekemoer4705 8 ай бұрын
@jamieoshea1681 are you drunk?
@teatime6414
@teatime6414 8 ай бұрын
@@jamieoshea1681 You don't understand obviously. You have to look at the direction of the hands, not the ball. The ball will travel forward with the momentum of the player but that's not what determines a forward pass.
@JillanoBates
@JillanoBates 8 ай бұрын
@@jamieoshea1681 they checked it pass was good...didnt cheslin kolbe have hands on the ball for at least 5 seconds when ireland scored?
@DrBroncanuus
@DrBroncanuus 8 ай бұрын
in 2019 RWC, I believe SA lost intentionally against NZ, in pool stage I think they did the same against Ireland, by missing so many kicks & failing to punish Ireland for their poor lineouts...SA are saving themselves for the Final..and avoiding NZ in semi...now Ireland will have to beat SA twice to lift the trophy...
@johannblignaut1966
@johannblignaut1966 8 ай бұрын
🇿🇦Do you really believe Boks will loose games on purpose.I don’t believe that for one moment and regard it as an insult to the players involved in the two mentioned games.
@DrBroncanuus
@DrBroncanuus 8 ай бұрын
I'm afraid SA are ruthless and they poisoned NZ in 1995 to win the RWC...@@johannblignaut1966
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 8 ай бұрын
@@DrBroncanuus I'm afraid you're delusional.
@DrBroncanuus
@DrBroncanuus 8 ай бұрын
1995 just before the Final against SA in SA...The All Blacks had 31 players go down with food poisoning ?@@randomuruk7230
@michaelharrison5564
@michaelharrison5564 8 ай бұрын
ireland fan here, his commentary voice is iconic, didnt even know what he looked like
@henkstols9326
@henkstols9326 8 ай бұрын
Jip from the early Super Rugby days, waking up early in SA switching over to NZ commentary to hear this man talk. We had Hugh Bladen who was also amazing and eventually couldnt remember whos who so they canned him, think he would have been ok as a Welsh commentator though as everyone is Jones😂😂
@dlennox1629
@dlennox1629 8 ай бұрын
I would be careful about South Africa they like to play mind games and wouldn't surprise me if this game was lost on purpose...
@Darren_S
@Darren_S 8 ай бұрын
I don't know man. Some of those Boks decisions looked very suspicious. Why kick for goal when the whole point of the 7-1 split is to go for the corner and use those forwards to drive the ball over the try line with mauls. That is SA's strength but they decided to play our weakness. It's a bit suspicious.
@Irish780
@Irish780 8 ай бұрын
Makes no sense to want to play france they world cup favourites instead who already beat they allblacks and who south africa hammered a couple a weeks ago
@Darren_S
@Darren_S 8 ай бұрын
​​@@Irish780It makes sense since DuPont is out.
@bosstrading928
@bosstrading928 8 ай бұрын
You for real?
@dlennox1629
@dlennox1629 8 ай бұрын
​@@Irish780 I like France they are looking great but with Antoine Dupont not firing on all 6 cylinders I don't know. South Africa just needs a good kicker....
@mitch2924
@mitch2924 8 ай бұрын
A positive Ireland can’t take away from this game. They are not good enough to beat the Boks if they had an decent goal kicker.
@keith-anthonyoneill4222
@keith-anthonyoneill4222 8 ай бұрын
if's, and's, but's and maybe's. A game is 80 minutes and both teams had 15 players on the pitch. Ireland won the game because they were the better team.
@CianOMahony-hc4jl
@CianOMahony-hc4jl 8 ай бұрын
I love how you only look at how your side could be improved and assume the other side will be stagnant. What do you think will happen if we start winning our lineouts on your tryline as well as all around the pitch?
@casperkruger348
@casperkruger348 8 ай бұрын
​@CianOMahony-hc4jl linouts got stolen, missed kicks are not forced. If you get lucky you will see polard in the final
@Irish780
@Irish780 8 ай бұрын
Lol😅 even Ireland had not lost so many lineouts they would have won by more
@jamieoshea1681
@jamieoshea1681 8 ай бұрын
The Irish line out makes your point irrelevant. What a terrible excuse 😂😂😂
@jimbokiwi9322
@jimbokiwi9322 8 ай бұрын
Why does everyone think ABs aren't big enough to compete with the top teams. Our first choice forward pack is NZ - 954kg + tamaiti 966kg Boks - 963kg Ireland - 932kg - 954kg France - 962 And our backs are around the save average size as all of those teams. Boks have some very big backs and some very small. Just seems to be a false narrative that everyone is going with. But the facts and stats say different.
@IansDrumsandBass
@IansDrumsandBass 8 ай бұрын
As a South African , we are rooting for the AB s to knock out Ireland. Fyi as far as I'm concerned the best kicker the world has ever seen was Andrew Merton - consistently good game after game. He rarely missed.
@DaveMaroldahasatinydick
@DaveMaroldahasatinydick 8 ай бұрын
Naas Botha was better, and I'm a kiwi. I'll support the Bokkies because I think the ABs will go out very early, not the right side at the moment.
@IansDrumsandBass
@IansDrumsandBass 8 ай бұрын
@@DaveMaroldahasatinydick Naas Botha WAS good, you're right.
@cringycook9597
@cringycook9597 8 ай бұрын
Who's letting these bots in the comments section 😮🤖
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