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Sleeping Sickness: The Terrifying Disease that Everyone Forgot

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Into the Shadows

Into the Shadows

Күн бұрын

When you don't have a scary name like Spanish Flu, it can be hard to stay in the history books.
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@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 2 жыл бұрын
As a student nurse in the late 70s, I helped care for an encephalitis patient. He was completely comatose yet knew our names when he woke up. I never forgot that & always talked to comatose patients, not over them. He got lucky & recovered.
@Lilacrosepetalleaf
@Lilacrosepetalleaf 2 жыл бұрын
I'm reading locked in. Hopefully i wont be around anyone who rnds up in a coma but if i am i will talk away to them.
@daniellekenaston9895
@daniellekenaston9895 2 жыл бұрын
I was in a coma on a vent for a week. I remember just a few things but one was a nurse who was braiding my hair too tightly. I could easily have been happy floating in my head for the rest of forever.
@Aliyah_666
@Aliyah_666 Жыл бұрын
@@daniellekenaston9895 Damn that's heavy...seriously though was it truly enjoyable I'm honestly curious.
@jilliangrannon1939
@jilliangrannon1939 Жыл бұрын
@ghost mall also didn't have to have degrees like u do now.
@lilacdoe7945
@lilacdoe7945 Жыл бұрын
Heard a Ted talk about a comatose patient that recovered. I cannot even imagine what it'd be like for them and their family.
@bjornodin
@bjornodin 2 жыл бұрын
This is literally my worst nightmare. The conscious coma or paralysis part I mean. I can sympathize with those who became violent and angry upon regaining the ability to move. I would be livid!
@davescott7680
@davescott7680 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh, sounds like locked in syndrome. I've let my loved ones know they need to euthanize me, whether legal or not. It's my absolute nightmare scenario.
@WasabiSniffer
@WasabiSniffer 2 жыл бұрын
Like being a prisoner in your own body. ALS can be like that as well, psychologically at least.
@dianapennepacker6854
@dianapennepacker6854 2 жыл бұрын
Paralyzed while thinking is the worse. They could not have even moved their eyes to communicate. That is scary. I don't remember if he said they can feel or not. Give me five months and stab me by a shamab, witch doctor or priest with an obsidian blade in some ritual so I can laugh in my head about how crazy life is and my family had it done. No cremation! Make me a mummy with tablets lying in English talking about all the scientific deeds and battles I've fought. So those 2,000 years from now know just what I did. (In 2004 he fought off 2,000 men, and later cured covid. Then went on to make an exoskeleton which basic design is still is used.) Damn I wish I had the money to make something like to prank historians. 100 tablets of granite should suffice. Dunno if memory cards can last.
@Spring2345
@Spring2345 2 жыл бұрын
My father died of ALS (I was his caretaker), the slow progression of conscious paralysis was the worst thing i have ever seen, hands down.
@anyawillowfan
@anyawillowfan 2 жыл бұрын
Many people with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis are barely able to move, and from experience, it absolutely sucks. But honestly it's worse when I'm able to do a tiny bit but have to stop due to the pain and fatigue it causes, as at least when I'm unable to move I don't feel guilty for not being productive enough (thank you capitalism).
@ohhhpossum
@ohhhpossum 2 жыл бұрын
Post viral (and bacterial) illnesses are SO common these days, but so underfunded and under researched. I've had Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (aka chronic fatigue syndrome) for nearly 13 years now. And I know of people who are going on 20, 30+ years with it. A lot of people with long covid are now ending up with it, so much so that we could be nearing 35 million cases worldwide, or more. So while "sleepy sickness" doesn't seem to be around much any more, there's still post viral illnesses just as deadly and life shattering. Living with ME is like a living death, honestly. And there's no cure or treatment, STILL. It's devastating seeing so many people join us in long-term disability because of covid, and we can't do anything for them, because no one did anything for us, 5, 10, 15, 20+ years ago. In some ways, I can't believe it took a pandemic for ME/CFS to even be mentioned in the media, and for harmful treatments for ME/CFS to be FINALLY shut down. It feels like this has been an over a century long battle for recognition and a cure/treatment.
@megancrager4397
@megancrager4397 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's that way wth all autoimmune diseases too. I've fought for good treatment for 30 years. Drs don't seem to know what to do with it
@coopergates9680
@coopergates9680 2 жыл бұрын
@@megancrager4397 How much worse does your case make vaccinations? They don't work, or even exacerbate the self-destruction?
@literaterose6731
@literaterose6731 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I’m now at 30+ years with CFS & fibromyalgia (as well as several other chronic conditions). On top of that I’m at unusually high risk genetically of developing Alzheimer’s (pretty much everyone on my mother’s side of the family had or has it, most symptoms starting near my current age, 61). I have come to terms a long time ago that I’m not going to live into great old age, and honestly I don’t particularly want to. I measure life by functionality and quality, not quantity-as long as I’ve got enough of the former to get by and have some contentment, fine. But I’ll be damned if I spend years of deteriorating misery unable to engage meaningfully with my own life until my body finally gives out. Can’t think of many worse fates. Totally with you on the living death description; I’ve had long stretches of being bedridden and/or housebound and it’s horrifying. Once heard someone use an old joke to describe it: the good news is, what I have won’t kill me…the bad news is, what I have won’t kill me. That’s pretty much summed it up for me. And I’m just too fucking tired (keeping in mind the difference between ordinary tiredness and clinical fatigue, which is a whole other level so many people just don’t understand) to engage in any activism for research or treatment. What’s coming down the pike with long Covid is terrifying. Maybe when a whole generation are becoming disabled in mass numbers some effort will be made. I hope so.
@KaguyaHimex
@KaguyaHimex 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve dealt with it too (I started Adderall again for my ADHD and that’s helped a lot) and what people don’t understand is… anything chronic fatigue goes so beyond being tired. It’s not “I take a 15 minute nap and I’m refreshed”, it’s laying on the couch for 30 minutes literally being unable to do anything else. When it got really bad I couldn’t even sleep because that required changing into pajamas, setting my alarm, and actually getting up to get into bed. It’s being so tired you can’t even think. Adderall has some awful side effects but I would never go back to being without it.
@lilyyuri777
@lilyyuri777 2 жыл бұрын
Same with dysautonomia. I'd never seen it mentioned anywhere apart from support groups until the pandemic. If anything good came out of the pandemic, it gave illnesses like these more mainstream attention.
@jidduv
@jidduv 2 жыл бұрын
Found this a few months after The Sandman came out. I had not thought the sleeping sickness was grounded in reality.
@wirsindallesonaiv
@wirsindallesonaiv 2 жыл бұрын
same here. scary stuff...
@zjsz4954
@zjsz4954 Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@clogs4956
@clogs4956 Жыл бұрын
I knew about this illness and was impressed that Gaiman had done his homework. My maternal grandfather’s 1928 death certificate states ‘meningitis’, but he may well have suffered from the hyperkinetic form as my mother, then only four, could clearly recall the horror of seeing him jerking and making odd noises before he was removed to hospital.
@tamekkaknuth9612
@tamekkaknuth9612 Жыл бұрын
Sleepy sickness can also happen when someone gets a date rape drug.
@WandererBasil
@WandererBasil Жыл бұрын
same!
@spencerheatherly8656
@spencerheatherly8656 2 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine that simon got up and walked away at the end of the video and sat down at a different chair and starts immediately shooting a video for one of his other 100 channels lol I love this community your all awesome 👌❤
@deansheets
@deansheets 2 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what happened 😂.
@kristiskinner6485
@kristiskinner6485 2 жыл бұрын
And changes shirt
@-xirx-
@-xirx- 2 жыл бұрын
Fat line of coke and onto BB..
@danielgilmer265
@danielgilmer265 2 жыл бұрын
Found his lastest channel the other day think I'm subscribed to all 1000 now
@truthjunkie63
@truthjunkie63 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@draochvar9646
@draochvar9646 2 жыл бұрын
I was initially so confused when he said that we don't really know the cause of sleeping sickness and was like "but we do, it's a parasite spread via the Tsetse fly". Then he explained further and I realized: "Ah shit, there's more than one sleeping sickness ... well fuck that."
@bronhaller
@bronhaller 2 жыл бұрын
same!
@timothyr.cyphers6939
@timothyr.cyphers6939 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@Asguard82
@Asguard82 2 жыл бұрын
Yea i made the same mistake (actually trying to find my comment to someone else about that to delete)
@vic5015
@vic5015 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. I just assumed that Simon was talking about African Sleeping Sickness, the one spread by that fly.
@partlycloudy7707
@partlycloudy7707 2 жыл бұрын
So did I. I thought it was the Trypanosoma cruzi or bruci. Apparently there are more than one Sleeping Sickness. Go figure.
@racheljensen1823
@racheljensen1823 2 жыл бұрын
My grandma had "sleeping sickness" as a girl in the late 1930s/early 1940s. It was so bad my great grandma, who thankfully was a nurse, had to reteach her how to swallow, sit, walk, talk, etc. She also had to spoon feed her to keep her alive. Thankfully, she recovered; but it's a horrible, scary disease.
@Edgeworthscravat
@Edgeworthscravat 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine just how terrifying it must have been to have this AND Spanish flu around at the same time??
@shadymcnasty5920
@shadymcnasty5920 2 жыл бұрын
What's insane is people call COVID the worst "plague" in history they have literally know idea. I can name 4 off the top of my head significantly worse
@joannesmith2484
@joannesmith2484 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadymcnasty5920 Who says that? I've never heard anyone say that. COVID is, however, serious and deadly and should be treated as such.
@waterloo32594
@waterloo32594 2 жыл бұрын
@@-xirx- I have. Mostly emotional people, or those who aren’t well read. There’s a lot of uneducated people out there.
@-xirx-
@-xirx- 2 жыл бұрын
@@waterloo32594 wow. Very true now I come to think of it.
@endrankluvsda4loko172
@endrankluvsda4loko172 2 жыл бұрын
@@joannesmith2484 I've come across tons of them. There's so many people acting like COVID is going to end the world. It's definitely worse than getting a cold, but it's also not nearly as bad as some of the other stuff floating around out there.
@doclewis8927
@doclewis8927 2 жыл бұрын
My sister had this when she was younger (in the 1970s). Even now, as an adult, she still has days where she sleeps 16 hours. It hasn't gone away. It's just not as common.
@bobmiller7502
@bobmiller7502 2 жыл бұрын
i wish i could i swap anything,for 16 hrs sleep in one night not over one week like normally
@pourpeopledrinks
@pourpeopledrinks 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobmiller7502 You do because you dont realize how fucking devastating this is to your quality of life. You dont wake up feeling well-rested, you wake up wanting to do nothing but sleep forever.
@wolfzmusic9706
@wolfzmusic9706 2 жыл бұрын
@@onyxsuccubus personally when I sleep too little I end up falling asleep throughout the day, so no not really
@thisbushnell4824
@thisbushnell4824 2 жыл бұрын
Our youngest brother was diagnosed with 'sleeping sickness'. He made it through with no apparent physical debilitation, but his general demeanor changed radically. From a cheerful, witty child, over the next 10 years he became cynical, mean, socially dysfunctional though still excelling in studies.
@sw6155
@sw6155 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear that… How’s he now? I hope you don’t mind me asking… God bless you an your family!
@ScouserLegend
@ScouserLegend Жыл бұрын
I have narcolepsy and everything becomes x10 more frustrating when you’re chronically tired, I’ve accepted I’m going to be grumpy forever.
@MakinaMakinaMakina
@MakinaMakinaMakina Жыл бұрын
@@ScouserLegend I’ve got no sleep illness but I’m a fucking cunt
@nicolehegarty4749
@nicolehegarty4749 Жыл бұрын
YES
@Spacecoreinspace
@Spacecoreinspace Жыл бұрын
it does cause personality changes, somehow probably due to mild damage to the brain, i'm not entirely sure
@andiward7068
@andiward7068 2 жыл бұрын
The diseases that leave the patient cognizant but unable to interact are the most frightening, imo.
@laurie113
@laurie113 Жыл бұрын
ALS!
@derekschommer1465
@derekschommer1465 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty soon we're gonna need a top tenz video on Simon whistler channels
@Cman04092
@Cman04092 2 жыл бұрын
He could already do a top 10 of simon whistler channels. He has 11, lol.
@sinonigami3437
@sinonigami3437 2 жыл бұрын
Brain (business) blaze is obviously #1
@DebTheDevastator
@DebTheDevastator 2 жыл бұрын
He could do two, one based on subscribers and the other on how much he likes filming it.
@sandybarnes887
@sandybarnes887 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cman04092 he has 12, new one debuted yesterday.
@Freakingbean
@Freakingbean 2 жыл бұрын
I hope he does it on April fools
@nickstevens7249
@nickstevens7249 Жыл бұрын
I have Myalgic Encephalitis or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and it's really interesting and shocking to me that people have a sore throat before experiencing the rest of their symptoms because sore throat is a common indicator in ME/CFS that you're about to crash or have a flare. It may just be correlation but it's fascinating to me
@ohsaintends
@ohsaintends 2 жыл бұрын
Let me just say this... As someone who has first-hand experience with oculogyric crisis (albeit from a medicine issue), that shit is no joke. It was infuriating being unable to look down, so much that I often lost sleep because I could feel my eyes straining upward even when closed. Thankfully it's since gone away and I really hope that it never comes back.
@ledumpsterfire6474
@ledumpsterfire6474 Жыл бұрын
What was the medical problem you were facing when it happened? I had a friend who said it happened to him when he got an MDMA pill that was later confirmed to have been more meth than MDMA. We don't really talk anymore, but I'd seen him post on Facebook saying he's dealing with retinal detachment now too, which I can't help but feel it probably has something to do with that few days he went through that.
@ohsaintends
@ohsaintends Жыл бұрын
@@ledumpsterfire6474 it was a new antidepressant I believe, I'm sorry but I have already forgotten the name... but yeah! anything that messes with brain chemistry has a decent chance to cause some pretty fucked up things that could be permanent... I hope your buddy feels better soon! it's so strange and frustrating to go though, the eye strain is enough alone but by overflexing the eye muscles I'm sure much worse could happen than just the soreness after 😬
@Purple_Wellies
@Purple_Wellies Жыл бұрын
@@ohsaintends I had that horrible side effect too! It was a side effect of an antipsychotic beginning with F. Horrible it was, caused acute dystonia. Happened 20 years ago or so
@KristiContemplates
@KristiContemplates Жыл бұрын
I have witnessed a family member have this crisis. Never been so scared for them before. I felt very helpless only able to watch and nothing else
@aj2080xy6
@aj2080xy6 Жыл бұрын
​@Purple_Wellies Fluphenazine perhaps? 1st generation anti psychotics are notorious for causing extra pyramidal reactions. At least an anti cholinergic like procyclidine can relieve it fairly quickly these days but unless your doctor is familiar with your med history they'll presume it's something like street drugs, epilepsy or an infection rather than a relatively simple to fix issue. Always good to carry a note to say you're on meds that can cause EPS or have someone close to you aware of the danger.
@mickm2486
@mickm2486 2 жыл бұрын
Simon's varying levels of seriousness across channels is like the stages of a works night out. This is the first pint being very well behaved with your boss, casual Criminalist is 6 pints in considering shots, Brain Blaze is a 4am phone call to collect some marching powder on the way to the second casino of the night
@MegaKat
@MegaKat 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the laugh, even if this is incredibly accurate
@insane_troll
@insane_troll 2 жыл бұрын
In Brain Blaze he is suffering from excessive silliness. Perhaps it is encephalitis.
@yolobathsalts
@yolobathsalts 2 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck this is exactly how it went with my boss at one of my first jobs. We're still really good friends to this day lmao
@2degucitas
@2degucitas 2 жыл бұрын
Marching powder
@sw6155
@sw6155 Жыл бұрын
@@2degucitas I wanna know what it is, but I’m afraid to google it… Hehehehe…
@speccogecko7296
@speccogecko7296 Жыл бұрын
Just mentioned this disease to my mum because I found the “excessive puns and silliness” as a psychiatric side effect to be funny and then my mum hit me with the fact that my great aunt (my mums aunt) had sleeping sickness when she was younger and it turned her into a sociopath who was cruel, evil, mean and uncaring and slobbish when before being ill she was clean, tidy, sweet and kind to people. She abused my mum and her own children ruthlessly and was overall an awful person, I had no idea it was due to such a disease. I’m glad I watched this video and mentioned the disease to my mum because it allowed me to understand my ancestry and biology better * ( I was previously worried sociopathy ran in the family or something)
@DerptyDerptyDUM
@DerptyDerptyDUM 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievably heartbreaking story. This is one that has haunted me ever since I saw "Awakenings" as a kid.
@michaeltobias3110
@michaeltobias3110 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching that movie when i was a lil kid. 👍👍👍
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me a lot like PANDAS disease. Another rare reaction of the body towards strep bacteria that creates symptoms that mirror certain behavior that used to land people in sanitariums or asylums. It's scary that common bacteria could cause rare unknown reactions and people won't understand what you're going through and you won't know so a lot of worry of going crazy occurs between all people.. makes me wonder how many mental illnesses might have been untreated illnesses like the reactions to bacteria that cause rare symptoms and behavior?
@rationallyruby
@rationallyruby 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Step throat is horrible… I wonder if it’s the same specific bacteria or a different one?
@jjchap3159
@jjchap3159 Жыл бұрын
I played out a fantastical theory in my head years ago, although possibly during a delusional state, that perhaps the more-modern outbreaks of substance-abuse and/or mental-illness could possibly be related to & traced back to what I thought of as a "fracturing of the collective human psyche" as a direct result of the events surrounding & the emotional, generalized posttraumatic fallout of WWII.. how much of this was fact, and how much was not just another mirage.. I can't say for sure.. but I remember feeling like I was really onto something & feeling a sort of empowering, excited feeling at the prospect of dedicating my "life's work" towards proving or disproving this theory, or at the very least exploring & investigating its possibility, however I ultimately slipped deeply back into my "default" state of mind as a tortured soul, affected overwhelming by immobilizing & debilitatingly intense depression & cynicism Still, whatever the case may be, I now believe proper sleep (and possibly optimally regular sleep-wake cycles, aka circadian rhythm) as utmost importance to anyone.. especially so for those grappling with substance-abuse and/or mental-illnesses.. in my experience, when the brain begins to run low on proper R&R, the conscious mind begins to merge with & occupy the same spaces in the brain related to functions such as coordination, emotionality, cognition, impulse-control, etc. my abstract theory, at the time, was something about how mental-illness - whether *always underlying* within the human psyche, or more simply *brought on by* - had been proliferated (irrevocably & irreparably) thru the traumas that the-world-over had experienced when directly confronting the physical embodiment of soulless evil that Adolf Hitler could be considered guilty of setting into motion.. First shell-shock (WWI), then "thousand-yard stare" catatonia (WWII).. resulting in an entire generation of newly-emotionally-repressed men (who had fought) & women (who lost many of their male influences).. i.e. "baby boomers" Then, in-turn, we saw the countercultural movements & expressive renaissances which ensured in the following generation.. i.e. "flower children" (proponents of peace & compassion & empathy, protesters of the wars in Korea & Vietnam) Next, various nations involved in conflicts in the middle-east during the 80s & 90s.. finally, here, we term this mental illness "posttraumatic stress disorder" albeit under the guise of various other names dating back who knows how far.. Lastly, unable to cope with the relatively unrealistic societal expectations & demands, and having been born to parents of generally-stunted emotional intelligence & capacity, turned to drug abuse in: generation X (prevalence of MDMA & cocaine use/abuse), generation Y (introduction of crack-cocaine & more-widespread prescription of pharmaceutical-grade opiates/opioids).. finally leading us to current-date (gen Z) with hardcore heroin/fentanyl users, a supermassive explosion in drug- & mental/emotionally-related diagnoses All of this could be just my intensely-vivid imagination running wild, but at the very least would make for excellent dystopian-conspiracy sci-fi (imo, ofc)
@maplesunflower2067
@maplesunflower2067 Жыл бұрын
I had PANDAS and whilst a short round of antibiotics rid my system of the strep, I still have tourette’s symptoms 13 years later. So crazy to think that it could have landed be in a sanitarium or asylum. Something like strep, scarlet fever; and other streptococcal infections could create PANDAS.
@SIC647
@SIC647 Жыл бұрын
@jjchap3159 A way to speak against this is the fact that there has been horrible wars and pandemics, much more horrible than WWI and WWII, e.g. The Black Death, and The 30 Years war. Those two wars didn't change humanity in any lasting way. They just created trauma, like all wars do.
@ca44444
@ca44444 Жыл бұрын
It also reminds me a bit of ME/CFS, another debilitating disease that can be caused by getting a viral infection once and then never really recovering.
@ancientmaverick13
@ancientmaverick13 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this as I lay in bed with a sore throat. Awesome.
@Hollylivengood
@Hollylivengood 2 жыл бұрын
Or after having had strep in childhood.
@louise-yo7kz
@louise-yo7kz 2 жыл бұрын
🥺
@tyaz6556
@tyaz6556 2 жыл бұрын
do u have it
@markharder3676
@markharder3676 2 жыл бұрын
And the moral of the story is: Take sore throats seriously. If you get an unusually severe one that persists, "strep throat" can be diagnosed easily and antibiotics are the only way to prevent auto-immune responses. One of these is an auto-immune attack on heart tissue.
@lucideuphoria7092
@lucideuphoria7092 2 жыл бұрын
100%. Got myocarditis and pericarditis, alongside a huge pericardial effusion from ignoring strep. I have been tired and have never been the same since. Have had constant autoimmune issues since. High WBC count, reactive thrombocytosis, high CRP, alt and ast in blood tests every time I get sick.
@justynefoster3886
@justynefoster3886 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I got a bad case of strep and ended up with psoriasis. Now when I’m stressed or sick, I get flare ups in random places.
@ae2948
@ae2948 Жыл бұрын
Good luck getting antibiotics promptly. These days, doctors don't want to prescribe them even for bacterial infections.
@markharder3676
@markharder3676 Жыл бұрын
@@ae2948 Interesting. In my experience, doctors are always willing to prescribe when called for, i.e. bacterial infections. I haven't experienced a fungal infection beyond athlete's foot, so I don't know about anti-fungal drugs.
@LeoDomitrix
@LeoDomitrix Жыл бұрын
@@markharder3676 The paranoia over creating "superbugs" is so prevalent that my husband and I are suffering through bacterial pneumonia right now. We could've been given antibiotics a week sooner. We weren't. He will have lung damage. Forever. All b/c they wouldn't hand over a frigging five-day course of antibiotics.... and, FYI, he has NonHodgkin Lymphoma and they STILL wouldn't give him antibiotics until he wound up in an ER needing oxygen. Took several more days for me to get mine. Yeah. It's that hard.
@JohnSmith-pm6zb
@JohnSmith-pm6zb 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. As a consultant physician with a large component of neurology In my everyday practice, I thought your explanations of the complex scientific and clinical information on this disease were excellent! A fair few of many fellow doctors have nowhere near such a gift for clarity when explaining things to their patients…
@hazmania
@hazmania 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never forgotten watching Awakenings, I literally sobbed at the injustice of the ending. To slide back into that state is so totally unfair, & terrifying.
@Momcat_maggiefelinefan
@Momcat_maggiefelinefan 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the movie at the same time my mother was diagnosed with Early Onset Alzheimer’s disease. The similarities between the newly awakened patients and my mom’s conditions had me in tears.
@minagica
@minagica 2 жыл бұрын
@@Momcat_maggiefelinefan I am so sorry, there are such horrible illnesses/conditions out there...
@janiceteeter6091
@janiceteeter6091 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in a small town (5000) in Iowa and in 1961 three people developed sleeping sickness, a mother and 12 year old daughter and a high school student. The feds spent several months in town trying to isolate how they got it, but never figured it out. After a year recovering, the 2 girls returned to school and their regular life. None of them had any residual problems and the young est girl became a state swimming champion 4 years later.
@bunnyluver2176
@bunnyluver2176 Жыл бұрын
Dr Oliver Sacks is an amazing man. His books are excellent and he is one of the kindest, gentlest souls I've ever seen. He went on to do so much work in neurology. If you are not familiar, look into his work. RIP Dr Sacks
@BenSussmanpro
@BenSussmanpro 11 ай бұрын
Yes, he was in the forefront of brain research, as a neurologist . I read his book The Mind’s Eye, & found it informative & even entertaining. A brilliant brain scientist. Simon should make a bio video of Sachs.
@sylviahoffman9440
@sylviahoffman9440 2 жыл бұрын
It was still on the public's mind as late as the 1960s, when I was a kid and would sleep in late, my grandparents would accuse me of having the sleeping sickness, my mom would laugh too, and I thought it was just a joke at the time. But obviously they didn't forget about the epidemic, they would have been kids when it was spreading.
@voshadxgathic
@voshadxgathic 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many cases in the modern age have happened that were never discovered due to accidentally being treated for by a misdiagnosis of some other infection. If minor throat irritation is the initial symptom, and it's possible to be treated by antibiotics, who knows how many cases were unknowingly treated.
@Rckola86
@Rckola86 Жыл бұрын
In a way it kind of sounds like an extreme case of long covid like Physicsgirl has.
@LuckyBadger
@LuckyBadger 2 жыл бұрын
I have Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, Fibromyalgia, and Bipolar Disorder. I can easily sleep 18 hours a day, and my day/night sleep schedule is inverted. I can even get all that sleep, and still end up taking a nap during my wake phase. I'll just fall over and sleep without even knowing I'm doing it. Y'all be grateful that I don't have a drivers license! Edited to add: I've also had Corona twice. Fun times. 🤒
@Fizzypopization
@Fizzypopization 2 жыл бұрын
Me too except the covid bit. Hope you feel better.
@pourpeopledrinks
@pourpeopledrinks 2 жыл бұрын
After I had covid the first time I developed an autoimmune disorder and symptoms from my personality disorders have also worsened greatly. And same, I can easily sleep for 18 hours at a time, and honestly a lot of the time its 24-62 hours at a time. Its fucking awfullll. Also I feel you on the multiple Rona thing, I've had it 3 times and its basically rendered me periodically disabled for multiple weeks at a time. Ffff this
@literaterose6731
@literaterose6731 2 жыл бұрын
Yup: I’ve got CFS, fibromyalgia and am on the ASD spectrum (among other things). Had Covid once, so far, despite being a hermit. Circadian rhythms are a joke at this point. I hate that this happens to anyone.
@snoopdoggthecertifiedg6777
@snoopdoggthecertifiedg6777 2 жыл бұрын
How do you… live?
@Candlewick14
@Candlewick14 2 жыл бұрын
THATS HORRIFIC
@davidstephens7486
@davidstephens7486 2 жыл бұрын
My great-grandfather in Georgia (US) died from the disease in 1920. It is written on his death certificate.
@gemininosferatu
@gemininosferatu 2 жыл бұрын
"Awakenings" is a fairly decent movie - if you get the opportunity, it's worth a watch. From what I remember, it's not 100% historically accurate but they did a good job; and it was one of Robin Williams's earlier non-comedic roles.
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say: thank you for not having sponsors on this channel. It just wouldn’t feel right otherwise. Thank you for giving these topics the respect they deserve.
@CTP909
@CTP909 2 жыл бұрын
Channels just not big enough for them yet. Simon's an outright capitalist and once the sponsors take note of this channel they'll be on here as well. It's how he and the other production staff make a living so I'm not mad
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 2 жыл бұрын
@@CTP909 sadly you were right. I figured that because he’s got a million channels, the sponsor sharks would be all over the channel straight away. I mean, capitalism is not *always* an evil thing, but it would be nice to see some historically significant tragedies and whatnot be given the respect and solidarity they deserve, not have some stupid sponsorship getting in the way. Some of this education and material is not only priceless but timeless, and may well be shown in an educational setting decades from now. Sponsorships somewhat kneecapping this aside-I know a man’s gotta eat-but if it were my production, I sure as hell wouldn’t feel right having a Hello Fresh ad with a relatively manic attitude with upbeat music and fake smiling and glee slapped right in the middle of a documentary piece about the Holodomor, but maybe that’s just me.
@markriosn7589
@markriosn7589 2 жыл бұрын
Given the effects of post-viral Long Covid (chronic fatigue syndrome), this epidemic is more important to learn about now then ever before
@ShieAyla
@ShieAyla 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with MS that presents with Chronic Fatigue? I can tell you how absolutely debilitating being tired can be. All of my other symptoms put together aren't as debilitating as my fatigue.
@trashcan2748
@trashcan2748 Жыл бұрын
I had issues with fatigue due to a medication in the past where I’d sleep for 16+ hours a day only to be absolutely exhausted while I was awake. I’m so lucky that I just had to change meds and it went away, I couldn’t imagine having to go through that for the rest of my life. I hope that things go well for you.
@ScouserLegend
@ScouserLegend Жыл бұрын
I have narcolepsy and being chronically tired changes you as a person. Completely changes your outlook on life and your personality.
@willowwispers5607
@willowwispers5607 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me once when I was a teen, I had a sore throat for more than a few weeks. I went to the doctor, and she was kinda shocked and said after testing that I had streptococcal virus. (strep throat) She said should I have waited any longer, I would have suffered brain damage. And that I should never wait that long again. I never forgot that. 😰
@bigafroman4277
@bigafroman4277 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, this disease sounds horrifying. I'm surprised I'd never heard of it before!
@crystalpollio4395
@crystalpollio4395 2 жыл бұрын
I have an eye movement disorder due to a lesion in my midbrain caused by MS. They also don’t know what causes MS. The brain is still a mystery
@donindusted
@donindusted 2 жыл бұрын
If the human brain was simple enough to understand we'd be to simple to understand it
@partlycloudy7707
@partlycloudy7707 2 жыл бұрын
Multiple Sclerosis? I thought it was an autoimmune disorder.
@jackwilson5542
@jackwilson5542 2 жыл бұрын
@@partlycloudy7707 Indeed it is autoimmune. But we don't know what really causes auto immune disorders- some think it is random, others attribute it to post infection response.
@jasonreed7522
@jasonreed7522 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackwilson5542 one part that could cause some auto immune disorders is how the body makes immune cells. (Specifically killer B and T cells). I'm going to use some language from kurzgesagt (go watch them) in this brief description. Everything at the cellular level is all about proteins and how they fit together, including identifying friend or foe. Our bodies are immune to everything that ever has or ever will exist because our specialist cells are very potent, but to be speciallized for everything you can't store the recipes in your DNA. So in the Thymus we hold "murder university" where new immune cells are made and given permission to do some DNA shuffling to make new protein receptors to identify enemies with, but they could randomly generate ones that target you instead or aswell. So in murder university they are presented a sampling of every protein in the body and if they react the "teachers" order it to sepuku itself and explode, only 2% of a class graduates Murder U. A theory is that if a cell escapes the Thymus (Murder U) and has a recipe for for your own proteins (98% chance) then it causes an autoimmune disease as it has free reign of the body. (Healthy immune cells might not recognize it, and they normally to a good job snuffing out cancer before it grows to a problematic state) The Kurzgesagt video I'm referancing is titled something along the lines of "How you are immune to every disease ever" and I encourage watching it. Their are probably many other pathways for autoimmune problems see as the brain and immune system are 2 of the most complex parts of the human body. Off the top of my head neutrophils are generalist immune response cells that are very hyper killing obsessed and will overreact to 1 bad cell forcing your macrophages to hide the 1 cancer cell they killed before the neutrophil kills 100 more healthy cells, so i wouldn't put it past them to mess up during a particularly strong immune response. (Also Covid infects and stimulates the immune system causing all those blood clots by triggering defenses not intended for viruses)
@noahglenn8305
@noahglenn8305 Жыл бұрын
Lots of interesting research happening now with MS and super high Vit D dosing and a super high success rate compared to the big pharma super drugs. Other interesting research indicates excessive exposure to environmental chemicals and simultaneous high levels of systemic inflammation (caused by oxidation in modern diets) causes the immune system to go a little crazy with all this damage control it shouldn’t be doing and it just starts attacking all kinds of things it shouldn’t thus the diagnosis of ‘Multiple’ Sclerosis
@Srelde
@Srelde 2 жыл бұрын
So this channel legit scares me sometimes. Not from the nature of its content (though that is often horrific in and of itself), but because of the way the episodes end. Simon just gets up and walks away. I'm a fan of his shows, so I watch a few of the other channels, and in his other videos he ends like most youtubers, with a "Thank you for watching, please besiege that Like button" bit. MOST youtube movies these days end with the same bit. The fact that such a common element is missing leaves me uneasy. Which I think is entirely the point of both the ending and of the channel. Excellent work.
@jasonreed7522
@jasonreed7522 2 жыл бұрын
I was a lot of chanels that normally don't include the typical "begging" for like and subscribe (sometimes they will try it and notice a sudden surge in subscribers and hate that it works), but even then they normally have some sort of goodbye or outro (as simple as saying by or see you next episode or something). So I don't notice its absence and more often get annoyed by the presence of any super noticable cheesy "smash that like button and subscribe for more" bits.
@NdumN
@NdumN Жыл бұрын
I had a serious reaction to something once and I got suuuper tired, I couldn't hold my eyes open, but I couldn't really sleep either... It lasted for like 3 weeks and I started to feel numb... The doctors barely examined me, we have a serious problem over here where people who have psychological problems isn't being taken serious and have a lot shorter lifespan, and they just called it a panic attack... After that it was like my head was filled with cotton, I got memory problems and I couldn't write my music anymore... It took like a year before my mind started functioning again but I'm still not back... And I have parkinson symptoms and I have finally got a appointment at a neurologist this month... I'm getting stiffer and stiffer and I have a lot of neurological problems, like pain and numbness, and that happened when I was 26 and I'm 36 now... Sorry for rambling but this video just showed up from nowhere and I recognized a lot... 😅
@nerner266
@nerner266 Жыл бұрын
sounds like a neurological disease, im so sorry about that. i have MS and though its not of the progressive kind going numb, cold and unable to walk without knowing what was going on for several weeks was very scary and a motive to freak out, but my gp dismissed it the first time it happened. im glad you got an appointment with the neurologist, better late than never
@joywebster2678
@joywebster2678 Жыл бұрын
I'm a serial stroke patient that started in my 30s. No one took that first one seriously until I went through evry neurologist in the academic hospital I worked at. Finally the neurologist who saw senior stroke patients saw me, ruled everything out, but said yes you did stroke we don't know why. It wasn't until genetic testing advanced over the years, that it was found I have a connective tissue disorder that affects blood vessels. Then 24yrs after stroke 1, I finally got blood thinners and other drugs. I stopped having the strokes every 2 yrs. Since CT scans showed damage back at stroke 1, why didn't anyone start me on blood thinners etc then. So anyone that is a Zebra, gets ignored because most MDs treat horses. Now no neurologist will follow me because I'm a known stroke survivor, and they don't "do" the disorder. So no one monitors my stroke risk anymore. I empathize with the sleeping sickness sufferers, and others I comments struggling with M.E. and other Zebra disorders.
@NdumN
@NdumN Жыл бұрын
@@joywebster2678 I'm sorry you have to go through that... It's a sad situation...
@kcvail7409
@kcvail7409 2 жыл бұрын
Working on genealogy a few weeks ago I came across an aunt and her husband, newly weds, who died this way. I had never heard of it before, it sounded quite horrifying and sad
@johnnysocket76
@johnnysocket76 2 жыл бұрын
The K sound you put in your pronunciations of enceph- prefix makes me crack up 😂 such a smooth accent
@owenshebbeare2999
@owenshebbeare2999 2 жыл бұрын
Also it is correct. I have Hydrocephalus, and naturally there are arguments whether the C is hard (as in Greek, the root language) or soft as Americans often pronounce it.
@kathryncumberland
@kathryncumberland 2 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments just to see if someone commented on this! Damn Brits need to learn how to speak English properly 😜
@travisinthetrunk
@travisinthetrunk 2 жыл бұрын
“I thought this country spawned the fucking language, and so far nobody seems to speak it.”
@owenshebbeare2999
@owenshebbeare2999 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathryncumberland Funny, we say the same about damned Yanks! 😄
@Momcat_maggiefelinefan
@Momcat_maggiefelinefan 2 жыл бұрын
Awakenings is one of my favourite movies. Robert Danero was fantastic in his role, proving that he’s a consummate actor.
@LordMcKrakenVonLittleBits
@LordMcKrakenVonLittleBits 2 жыл бұрын
Awakenings legitimately scared me. This is like living in an open solitary confinement.
@rahulg2961
@rahulg2961 2 жыл бұрын
No shade but I watch/listen to Simon's video to sleep and I'm listening about sleeping sickness.
@rebeccapeters4468
@rebeccapeters4468 2 жыл бұрын
The new Netflix series The Sandman offers an interesting alternative for its sudden arrival. :)
@CCCW
@CCCW 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow.. I was just listening to the "Sandman" audiobook, and there they weave the sleeping sickness into the storyline. I had forgotten it was so real!!
@-xirx-
@-xirx- 2 жыл бұрын
Neil Gaiman's? I absolutely loved the graphic novels when I read them.
@CCCW
@CCCW 2 жыл бұрын
@@-xirx- yeah exactly. The audio books are pretty great too, a ton of awesome voice actors
@-xirx-
@-xirx- 2 жыл бұрын
@@CCCW wow, cheers! I'll have to check them out.
@bananawitchcraft
@bananawitchcraft 2 жыл бұрын
I first read Preludes and Nocturnes many years ago, and I was horrified to later find out this is a real disease which can still affect people. I have some neurological problems, fortunately it's not terminal, but brain disorders are IMO some of the scariest conditions you can get. Love Neil Gaiman though.
@EyesOfErica
@EyesOfErica Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the awakenings movie as a kid with my family. I was so scared after watching it that I slept in a sleeping bag on the floor in my sister’s room that night. I was in third or fourth grade, and was at a point where I felt like I was too old to sleep in my parents room if I got scared. But I couldn’t bear to sleep alone after watching these people get stuck in a coma like state. The thought of this happening to me, or maybe even going to sleep and then waking up to be like this, never the same again, terrified me.
@scocon8658
@scocon8658 2 жыл бұрын
When Simon mentioned the connection of how Sleeping Sickness patients shared a history of previous Streptococcus (sore throat) infection, did anyone else clear their throats like I did?
@haveagoodday7021
@haveagoodday7021 11 ай бұрын
I currently have a sore throat (covid's a bitch) and hearing him say these started with that made me shit myself.
@scocon8658
@scocon8658 11 ай бұрын
@@haveagoodday7021 So...now it's coming out of both ends? Yowsers I hadn't seen a friend in a while, and when he showed up in our little group I asked him where he'd been. He told me he was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease, a sickness of the bowels. He said before he was diagnosed he was on the toilet for a week. I said, "Well, at least you caught up on your reading." I didn't realize someone heard me until they turned around with a big ol' grin on their face. Truth truly is stranger than fiction...Thank you, and I hope nobody's rude to you
@thebbqprince
@thebbqprince Жыл бұрын
When I was 18, I suffered from a similar condition for 2-3 months. I slept about 15 hours a day, waking up only to eat and go to work. While I was awake, my entire body was extremely sore, and I was tired/lethargic for the whole day. This illness appeared out of nowhere. When I was treated for this at a local medical clinic, the nurse told me that I was "adjusting to a new environment and that I should just try to stay up." After about a month, I was able to mentally and physically recover enough to stay awake during the entire day. I always wonder if this was what I had.
@shadymcnasty5920
@shadymcnasty5920 2 жыл бұрын
9:00 " it all started with sore throats" Me with sore throat- fuccckkkk
@terryarmbruster9719
@terryarmbruster9719 Жыл бұрын
my brother got western encephalatis sleeping sickness back in 1976 outbreak via mosquitos in western canada nw usa. extremely lethargic and high fevers. was in hospital a month and took about a year to get back to normal
@Lolmaliken
@Lolmaliken 2 жыл бұрын
I may just be ignorant but, I’m surprised there wasn’t much more doomsday or second coming talk in the early 20th century. After hearing him lay it out, I knew about all the calamities but to really put into perspective that for 30-40 years life was truly fragile, haunting.
@angelachouinard4581
@angelachouinard4581 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is another great channel. I remember watching "Awakenings" and thinking how horrible it must have been to finally escape that paralysis only to revert back. This is one of those forgotten topics that deserves more attention, so thanks again Simon.
@EverySecondCounts_LogOff
@EverySecondCounts_LogOff 5 ай бұрын
I’ve just started levodopa!! It’s amazing!! Neuro had me watch Awakenings again too. I have been on a diagnostic track for either encephalitis or Parkinson’s if that tells you what kind of symptoms encephalitis can encompass. The treatment is the same. I’m lucky when I’m awake, when I can move, when I can breathe the right way without having to think about it.
@richardosbourne3346
@richardosbourne3346 2 жыл бұрын
Has no one else seem The Sandman on Netflix? It explains it all 👍
@Shahrezad1
@Shahrezad1 2 жыл бұрын
I did not know about this AT ALL until I just watched an Episode of Sandman on Netflix that mentions this as part of the plot. But I wasn't sure it had actually happened...until I saw this KZfaq video. 🤯😳 How did I not know about this? How is this not talked about more?
@tutoring1013
@tutoring1013 Жыл бұрын
I think this is what the youtuber Physics Girl is going through right now and it's both devastating and heartbreaking how sick she still is with Long Covid. She's so young and brilliant, I just pray she fully recovers.
@S1llycitty
@S1llycitty 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Simon & co.! Didn’t know about this epidemic, but now that I do, it will be great to have my undergrad neuro students analyze the symptoms and neuropathology!
@sylviahoffman9440
@sylviahoffman9440 2 жыл бұрын
My dad became a research neurologist. Now I wonder when he was a kid, if he was inspired by this disease.......🤔
@darrenmurray861
@darrenmurray861 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever need a good cry, watch the film. Robert DeNiro’s performance is absolutely amazing.
@Liquid278
@Liquid278 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know this was a real thing, I first heard of this with the Netflix show “The Sandman” which is great btw
@maplesunflower2067
@maplesunflower2067 Жыл бұрын
I had PANDAS when I was 9 from a strep throat. I mostly had OCD-like and severe Tourette-like symptoms. I took antibiotics for the strep but the tourette symptoms remained. My nervous system was attacking itself just like this disease, as described. I’ve also read about strep leading to necrosis and heart attacks which is so crazy. Such a common bacteria can be so dangerous if you either get a rare/bad strain, don’t finish your antobiotics, or don’t get treatment (as in my case because it only lasted one day.)
@kreiner1
@kreiner1 2 жыл бұрын
My son got scarlet fever when he was young. Also caused by strep throat. And this was 1999 or 2000 so not a long long time ago.
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree Жыл бұрын
My friend had scarlet fever in the 1960s.
@matthewgambrel568
@matthewgambrel568 2 жыл бұрын
I need a video on the Harlan Coal Wars in Harlan Kentucky. Where the US Government bombed there people and had them assassinated. Where they worked with corrupt company’s treating their employees as if slaves and never paying them and starving them!!! Love your videos Simon keep up the work! Your whole team is doing great!!!
@bjornodin
@bjornodin 2 жыл бұрын
I am intrigued!
@shadymcnasty5920
@shadymcnasty5920 2 жыл бұрын
Ughh please explain
@Snp2024
@Snp2024 2 жыл бұрын
WTF ?
@SirEricArthurBlair
@SirEricArthurBlair 2 жыл бұрын
You have my attention. It would be nice if Simon told this story.
@80wolfmanrob
@80wolfmanrob 2 жыл бұрын
That's where the show justified takes place but it has nothing to do with that. Still a great show.
@sarahgargani5836
@sarahgargani5836 2 жыл бұрын
I misread the title of this at first, I thought it said sweating sickness, which is similar in how mysterious it is, I would love to see you cover that. Great video!
@alegnalowe3679
@alegnalowe3679 2 жыл бұрын
I think i was a bit confused as i read alot about this kind of subject.Anne boelyn and Cardinal woolsey bothe had and recovered from it.
@jameslipke354
@jameslipke354 Жыл бұрын
My cousin Mary was bitten by a mosquito when she was an infant and the end result was sleeping sickness. The doctors told my aunt and uncle if they were lucky, she might see her 18th birthday. At age 17 (I was 6 or 7 at the time) she had the learning and understanding of a second grader but was so proud of her accomplishments. She did not live to see her 30th birthday, she passed away at the age of 28. She was so, so sweet and loving. ~ APRIL LIPKE
@rubysilver3299
@rubysilver3299 Жыл бұрын
April, the disease that affected your cousin was probably a different kind of encephalitis than the one in the video. It was likely Eastern Equine Encephalitis, a viral disease of horses that is passed to humans through mosquito bites. When I was in elementary school in the 60s, a classmate’s younger brother died of it. It’s particularly dangerous to young children. It’s very rare, but it’s still around.
@madelinevanderbunny607
@madelinevanderbunny607 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those diseases that is equal parts completely bizarre and absolutely terrifying. I had heard of it once or twice but didn't know much about it besides the overpowering exhaustion and possible catatonia that could last years or even decades and that is already bad enough to scare the crappie out of anyone but I didn't know about the rest and what do you know it's even scarier than I thought. Also it never occurred to me before that while totally different and completely unrelated
@gryffbirb
@gryffbirb 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with mental illnesses, this thing freaks me out more than Anthrax and many other diseases. The idea that something can just come suddenly and cause the same issues I have scares me.
@pelhambissell2926
@pelhambissell2926 2 жыл бұрын
My aunt suffered through this as a child in the 1920’s . She always believed that her survival was through prayer ❤️
@minagica
@minagica 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad she survived but believing prayer saved you (her) while it didn't save others is such a disgustingly selfish position to hold. There's the "well God loves me more than the next person so MY prayers got answered" angle and then there is of course "if it's not working for you it's because you're not doing it right / not praying hard enough / not doing it with an open enough heart" etc angle, both of which are deplorable
@Monkey_D_Luffy56
@Monkey_D_Luffy56 2 жыл бұрын
There is a documentary on Netflix called sandman explaining how it happened
@greyfairer
@greyfairer 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the inspiration of Neil Gaiman's The Sandman, which starts with Morpheus, the Lord of Dreaming, being imprisoned by a magician for decades, leaving thousands of people unable to dream or wake up.
@p.l.g3190
@p.l.g3190 2 жыл бұрын
In the final years of her life, my grandma slept more than she had previously. She'd always make some sort of a joke about having sleeping sickness, which I thought a tad bit odd, because I thought that was only something spread by the Tsetse fly in Africa. Never knew that she lived through an epidemic of something else called sleeping sickness. A horrifying disease, but a very interesting look at something that, at least in a small way, influenced my grandma's life.
@lisafish1449
@lisafish1449 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if scientists have looked at prions as a secondary cause of this disease. It bears many of the hallmarks of a prion disease.
@laanaalove
@laanaalove 2 жыл бұрын
I was also thinking this
@zarasbazaar
@zarasbazaar Жыл бұрын
Prion disease is 100% fatal, from what I've read.
@shadymcnasty5920
@shadymcnasty5920 2 жыл бұрын
11:15 these sound like trembles people addicted to methamphetamine suffer from. Rapid eye movement uncontrolled muscle tremors...
@tyberious8
@tyberious8 Жыл бұрын
My great great grandmother died of this. I’ve heard a story of how my great grandfather, who was an adult when his mother died, saw her after an autopsy had been done, and her head had been severed or nearly severed during the process. What a gruesome thing to have seen.
@vernonbender3384
@vernonbender3384 2 жыл бұрын
I consider myself a bit of a historian, and I have never heard of this malady. Thank you, for revealing it!
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 2 жыл бұрын
2:05 - Chapter 1 - The different forms of encephalitis lethargica 5:50 - Chapter 2 - What happened to the patients of the 1920's pandemic ? 7:20 - Chapter 3 - What causes encephalitis lethargica ? 9:50 - Chapter 4 - How does sleeping sickness kill you ? 10:25 - Chapter 5 - Did it play a role in WWII ? 13:05 - Chapter 6 - Why has it been forgotten ? 14:05 - Chapter 7 - Is there a cure ? - Chapter 8 - - Chapter 9 - - Chapter 10 -
@infinitecurlie
@infinitecurlie 2 жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine enduring any of this while also being completely mentally aware. 😳
@seatbelttruck
@seatbelttruck 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if antibiotics is what made it (mostly) go away. The time period lines up well enough. As for why it all the sudden showed up, maybe the Spanish Flu messed with the immune system enough to trigger an abnormal reaction to strep? It's really fascinating to think about. I had never heard of this before.
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 2 жыл бұрын
Me, as someone who’s always tired and lethargic: oh dear, this doesn’t sound good
@bibrosko
@bibrosko 2 жыл бұрын
and I also have tics ! yay :c
@somethinglikethat2176
@somethinglikethat2176 2 жыл бұрын
Me, with a sore throat: oh so this is how I die.
@anaussie213
@anaussie213 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah I've got that day night sleep reversal thing.
@EirikXL
@EirikXL 2 жыл бұрын
One thing: The virus could have died out because it was too noticeable and too deadly, meaning that a few generations of mutations down the line, the streptococcus we have today probably outcompeted the more deadly variant because there were too few hosts left highly infections and alive.
@tigerlilly5579
@tigerlilly5579 2 жыл бұрын
This does happen with both bacteria and viruses. It could be one cause of the decline of the illness.
@jasonreed7522
@jasonreed7522 2 жыл бұрын
Strep is a bacteria which is why we can treat it with antibiotics, so if its caused (even partially) by a bacterium then our modern use (and overuse) of antibiotics when we identify a bacterial caused "cold" its possible that it gets accidentally cured as an unidentified bacterial infection. And we are slowly working on a general antiviral. We have tamaflu as an antiviral medication specific for the flu that has some highly specific requirements to work. (Mainly to take it before your symptomatic)
@toespic
@toespic 2 жыл бұрын
we may be luckily alive on this world due to a plague inc newbie....
@LeoDomitrix
@LeoDomitrix Жыл бұрын
Strep is a bacteria, for one, and for another, we only had 14 countries that were legally required to report cases of this disease. So its true scope is unknown. It also wasn't *that* noticeable by 1920s standards. With active smallpox, leprosy, etc etc around the globe someone showing up with fever and neurological symptoms could've been classed as anything from "brain fever" (marvelously vague term) to rabies to Parkinsons. Not many everyday docs had the ability to tell the difference back then. (Or now, to be fair.) Brain lesions indicate no abatement of infection/reaction, so it's possible this is a substrain of strep that simply hit some people quite hard and didn't do so to others ----- a common epidemiological pattern. There are many factors to consider, such as blood antigen factors (ie ABO), epigenetic issues from exposure to toxins pre-infection, and so on. We'll probably never know for sure. And I'm okay with that, b/c we'd need another epidemic to get the data.
@NG-fk6wc
@NG-fk6wc 2 жыл бұрын
The movie * The Awakenings * is a exceptional movie with Robin Williams and de Niro as the leads. Great film
@liamkelly2424
@liamkelly2424 2 жыл бұрын
It would be hard to diagnose Hitler's involuntary eye movements as he was a regular abuser of pain medication and amphetamines. And when taken together in strong enough doses they can cause rather intense involuntary eye movements, muscle clenching, nervous system/motor function damage and more. Hitler was both tweaking and rolling on the regular
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 2 жыл бұрын
Random thought: I wonder if The Brothers' Grimm version of Snow White was based on this.
@elburropeligroso4689
@elburropeligroso4689 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the legend of Rip Van Winkle as well?
@princesszobrie4683
@princesszobrie4683 2 жыл бұрын
With the release of The Sandman, the mystery is now solved
@galacticshrimpenterprise6100
@galacticshrimpenterprise6100 Жыл бұрын
Honestly you could probably draw some solid parallels between this condition and long covid/ME/CFS- obviously they aren’t the same conditions, but they have similar outcomes. A defining characteristic of ME/CFS (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) is PEM (post exertional malaise)- essentially, every time you exert yourself, you crash and end up with excruciating migraines (light, sound, smells, and touch HURT), extreme fatigue (I’m talking can’t walk to the bathroom without help levels of fatigue) a crash can take you down for weeks, if not months. The only thing that helps is resting and not exerting yourself again. Problem is, your baseline of energy lowers every time you crash, so if you exert yourself while recovering from a crash, you crash inside of a crash. If you keep pushing yourself, it can get to the point where all you can do is lay in a perfectly dark, silent room 24/7. Talking to people is too much, any light is too much, any sound is too much. From there, if you keep pushing, even THINKING exerts you, you have to intentionally prevent yourself from *thinking* ffs. Many people with ME/CFS have to completely isolate themselves from people because even just being in the same room as someone is too exhausting. ME/CFS has been rated to have the lowest possible quality of life when compared to conditions like it. I caught Covid at the beginning of the pandemic and I’ve rapidly declined in the two years since. I’ve been bedridden (on and off) for nearly two months now due to excruciating pain and devastating fatigue. On a good day, nowadays, I’m lucky if I can run a handful of errands without causing a flare up. I can run to the grocery store with the help of my cane and lots of pain meds, but I have to lay down for a minimum of 6-8 hrs afterwards. On a bad day, I’m in enough pain to hospitalize your average person. I’m lucky if I can get out of bed to feed myself. My particular case isn’t even that severe, comparatively. If I can offer a word of advice to anyone- it would be to take this pandemic seriously. You might think you’re invincible because you’re young and healthy, but this virus does not pull punches. My case of Covid wasn’t even particularly severe, it just felt like a rough flu, but now I’m disabled for the foreseeable future. Covid is not over, and this winter is expected to be extremely rough in that department. Please, mask up, social distance, and get the vaccine if you’re able to. Please, don’t end up like me. It is hell, and that’s putting it EXTREMELY lightly.
@rttnkng
@rttnkng Жыл бұрын
After reading Awakenings i wanted to keep learning about more recent cases and developments in treatment but it was insane how little other information there is out there
@Brett_S_420
@Brett_S_420 2 жыл бұрын
They could have benefit today (I'd bet) from some zolpidem AKA Ambien. Yes, Ambien. It turns out that the pill that puts insomniacs to sleep also causes side effects like sleep eating, sleep driving, (in the single case of Rossanne Barr, even sleep rascist-tweeting) etc. does some other things. It wakes people up from comatose states and re-awakens lost brain function after strokes and traumatic brain injuries...
@minagica
@minagica 2 жыл бұрын
Cool! That's like giving stimulants to ADD and ADHD patients counterintuitively helping them focus and somehow micro doses of certain poisons also counterintuitively being more dangerous than a slightly larger dose (though I forget where I saw that)
@miaharris6053
@miaharris6053 2 ай бұрын
Yes we know
@billthecanuck
@billthecanuck 2 жыл бұрын
if only a magus had not captured the sandman in his basement
@PraiseDog
@PraiseDog 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a phenomena! Unsurpassed in disseminating high quality general knowledge in a condensed form. He is also careful to maintain a clear distinction between what is certain factual knowledge, and what is just a possible explanation. That is a rare quality.
@acecat5575
@acecat5575 2 жыл бұрын
I love that this video was suggested to me only 3 days after I finished watching The Sandman 😅
@Outside85
@Outside85 2 жыл бұрын
Only reason I knew of this beforehand was because it featured at the start of Neil Gaiman's 'Sandman' series where it is a side effect of the main character Morpheus aka Dream having been imprisoned by occultists, reason it went away was that he escaped and could resume tending to his duties.
@StoneInMySandal
@StoneInMySandal 2 жыл бұрын
This has been posited as an explanation for some cases of possession in antiquity.
@teressebirkett3387
@teressebirkett3387 Жыл бұрын
This is crazy to have a doco on this......I had viral menigits that went untreated for 6 mths as the dr thought i was just pulling a fast one to get out of uni and I then developed encephalitis from that. This was like watching the story of my life unfold before my eyes. It was in 1998 I was so sick for 2 years my treating drs that my parents eventually found still to this day have no idea how I survived but I do have brain damage, epilepsy, chronic fatigue and a few other health issues that have arisen from that over the years. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. Every time I get a cold I panic it has returned. It's real, if you even suspect anyone you know might have it check it out or they may not be as lucky as me.
@enoms7873
@enoms7873 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has frequently experienced oculargyric crisis (from antipsychotic medication) let me tell you, it is one of the most debilitating and distressing things i have ever tried
@georgehenry76
@georgehenry76 2 жыл бұрын
He’s so good at pronouncing big words. Except for ‘encephalitis’ lol
@sethjm
@sethjm Жыл бұрын
If you mean his pronunciation as "enKefalitis", that's a recognized alternative pronunciation common in Britain. It's also technically more true to the original Greek: κεφάλι (kefali) = head
@Victorianification
@Victorianification 2 жыл бұрын
It happened because Dream of the Endless was imprisoned.
@dadegroot
@dadegroot 2 жыл бұрын
Do we know if this was the same sleeping sickness that took hold in 1600's Europe? The outcome of that epidemic tended to be death within three days of initial symptoms, but then maybe that was because of the lack of modern medical means.
@mirandagoldstine8548
@mirandagoldstine8548 2 жыл бұрын
There was a wave of it in the 17th century? I was thinking one of the forms of sleeping sickness, the form with the muscle movements, could be the explanation for the dancing plagues that hit during the Middle Ages and continued into the 17th century. No one has figured out what caused it. I thought it was Tourette’s but it would require large numbers of people with Tourette’s living in a community to be the explanation. Honestly this disease, the sweating sickness (which I think could have originated within the Hanseatic League as one of the items traded by the league were furs) and the dancing plague are among the most mysterious, still unexplained, illnesses
@alegnalowe3679
@alegnalowe3679 2 жыл бұрын
I have read this context in a book called Great Disasters a book if i recall was a time life publication.So many different epidemics were in it i lost count.Syphilis was one that was excluded for some strange reason.
@alegnalowe3679
@alegnalowe3679 2 жыл бұрын
The first outbreak was in 1485.It was more prevelent in men less common in women and seemed to be more in those in the military and royal families.Most peasents did not seem to get it.Anne Boleyn contracted it in 1528 i believe it said in the book.It also skipped generations and reappeared and became worse with each reaccurence.Cardinal woolsey also contracted the disease and recovered.
@frankenstein4777
@frankenstein4777 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome post! I love learning from Simon and the team.
@trejrco
@trejrco 2 жыл бұрын
"day night reversal" & "excessive puns" are symptoms? I might be in trouble ...
@hometown555
@hometown555 2 жыл бұрын
It was the time when Morpheus was locked up in someones basement.
@zubsies
@zubsies Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine waking up in the sixties still thinking it's the twenties I don't think I would have been able to comprehend it either with how much changed
@TheQuickSilver101
@TheQuickSilver101 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another horrifying topic. While this won't keep me awake at night I do feel bad for the folks who had/have this. Thanks for telling us about this.
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