Gore Vidal vs William Buckley Democratic Convention 1968 Debate 1

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Thomas G

Thomas G

11 жыл бұрын

Gore Vidal vs William Buckley Democratic Convention 1968 Debate 1

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@Lifetheatre34
@Lifetheatre34 8 жыл бұрын
I saw Best Of Enemies and it was a beyond great! The audience was primarily elderly, but everybody was Intune. I give it five stars.
@owg59
@owg59 9 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. These guys really hated each other and you can feel the tension. I very much want to see "Best of Enemies."
@gorecassady1632
@gorecassady1632 9 жыл бұрын
Saw it, it's pretty awesome !!
@philipellwood6642
@philipellwood6642 6 жыл бұрын
It is available on Netflix
@plumerjr
@plumerjr 5 жыл бұрын
It is worth seeing. Their hatred for each other went on for years.
@jhassett2
@jhassett2 11 жыл бұрын
Been looking for this one for a long time.Many thanks.Isn't it incredible how far we have fallen since these two titans locked horns?
@x0rn312
@x0rn312 8 ай бұрын
The idea that people were calling the end of the Cold War in the mid-60s is hilarious
@stevevandien310
@stevevandien310 6 жыл бұрын
At any rate, our political discourse has descended precipitously from this. The contemporary right has no spokesman of Buckley's caliber. The left has none of Vidal's.
@dinojay8410
@dinojay8410 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't think that Vidal was so much of a "liberal Democrat" so much as he was a libertarian. I think Christopher Hitchens had a good summary of both Buckley and Vidal.
@JeanValjean875
@JeanValjean875 11 ай бұрын
​@dinojay8410 He was not a libertarian. He talked about poverty frequently and supported a lot of public welfare programs. Libertarians are against such programs.
@x0rn312
@x0rn312 8 ай бұрын
​@samuelrosen1593 you're assuming all Libertarians take an extremely hard line stance. I'm a Libertarian and I'm totally in favor of Social Services like welfare and food stamps and housing assistance as long as they're done in a way that respects the freedom and dignity of the people they are helping. The problem is the libertarian party has focused on dumb stuff and not the big issues like ending the drug war.
@nickscollection
@nickscollection Жыл бұрын
Wow this is awesome to watch.
@reddeserted13
@reddeserted13 2 жыл бұрын
This was actually a very personal debate. The politics was just window dressing.
@professormichaellemaire8801
@professormichaellemaire8801 2 жыл бұрын
I read your remark on July 13, 2022
@ttacking_you
@ttacking_you 9 ай бұрын
Tagging it with "mellifluouity"- vintage Buckley
@professormichaellemaire8801
@professormichaellemaire8801 2 жыл бұрын
I had searched for Smith's very initial plaudit which I paraphrase, "Welcome audience - tonite we have two gentlemen who are well versed and know how the use the English language most adroitly" Something to that effect. The Convention was going on in another arena but ABC was counter programming.
@infinitejest441
@infinitejest441 7 ай бұрын
Buckley reminds me of that kid at school who corrects the teacher.
@46dc9er
@46dc9er 11 жыл бұрын
GREAT
@SlimeOgre
@SlimeOgre 11 жыл бұрын
more coming
@tyroneslothrop1243
@tyroneslothrop1243 Ай бұрын
They talk so pretty.
@rsr789
@rsr789 11 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you upload in 1080p? j/k :-P Thanks for posting!
@TheTrueAnswer
@TheTrueAnswer 3 жыл бұрын
Damnnn mono sound...
@reddeserted13
@reddeserted13 2 жыл бұрын
Vidal was right about Empire
@jonathangagne525
@jonathangagne525 5 жыл бұрын
Fifty years later, &, we r still at odds! Gee, I wonder y?! We all think differently, sometimes; rarely, alike. But, the GOOD news, I know, in the future, we'll all think alike. 😁y? UNDERSTANDING.
@coreycox2345
@coreycox2345 5 жыл бұрын
I look forward to understanding, Jonathan Gagne. :)
@xfhghe
@xfhghe 8 жыл бұрын
Ah, exhibit, two well born, intelligent, and eloquent men of opposing views artfully throwing darts(knives?) at each other. Very entertaining. And a style that is sadly missing in today's Trumped-era.
@forgottenman8629
@forgottenman8629 6 жыл бұрын
Too bad that pundit discourse has evolved into what we have today; something that's intended for, at best, a high school educated audience and at worst those who never made it that far. But on the other hand maybe that's the demographics of TV viewers? It often appears that if she's blonde and showing as much skin as possible she'll turn into a CNN/FOX news expert and to hell with it if there's any gray matter between the ears...
@andrewhoyle1521
@andrewhoyle1521 2 жыл бұрын
You know, if u weren't downtown or by the convention center chicago was as normal as a summers day. It was not an "armed camp" just 4-5 neighborhoods. Everyone from press, to protesters, to police grossly overreacted
@professormichaellemaire8801
@professormichaellemaire8801 2 жыл бұрын
Amen; as WFB instructed us; I shall say your adverb, grossly, falls far short of the nuance necessary to emblazen the verb, over reacted.
@andrewhoyle1521
@andrewhoyle1521 2 жыл бұрын
@@professormichaellemaire8801 lol well said, though KZfaq comment section isn't a place for proper grammar. Compared to modern commentators particular on the right WFB is a rocket scientist.
@roughhabit9085
@roughhabit9085 8 ай бұрын
Particularly was the word you were looking for .
@alanrogers1660
@alanrogers1660 Жыл бұрын
It's obvious that Buckley had never had an opponent of Vidal's capacity. Buckley is ruffled and Vidal maintains a level head.
@pertjacanape
@pertjacanape 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Buckley always was well prepared in terms of his command of knowledge relevant to the discussion, and he was fluent in the use of debating tactics. The more I watch these debates between him and Mr Vidal, hiwever, the more Mr. Vidal endears himself to me and seems to have defeated Mr. Buckley.
@elizabethkeenan7063
@elizabethkeenan7063 4 жыл бұрын
Vidal was a visionary, we did become an Empire and rather than the policemen of the world we became the mercenaries for the most despicable dictators. Our economic superiority was a myth.
@billtaylor4
@billtaylor4 8 жыл бұрын
The debate here is excellent. "Best of Enemies" is mostly a waste of time. There is hardly any of the debate in the movie! "Best of Enemies" succeeds in doing exactly what it purports to condemn -- bringing political discourse down to the level of entertainment and personal attacks.
@roughhabit9085
@roughhabit9085 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@davidhofberg5029
@davidhofberg5029 8 жыл бұрын
8:03 "Have you noticed and major wars while a Republican was in office?"
@jeffym8929
@jeffym8929 4 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me? Wilson WW1, Roosevelt WW2, Truman Korean War , and JFK started hostilities in Vietnam. I’ve read some pea brain comments before but....
@macvena
@macvena 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently you've never read a basic history book. The Democrats got the US into the War of 1812 by declaring war on Britain. Then they took the US into Mexico. Then they attempted secession, attack Ft Sumter launching the American Civil War. Then they get full responsibility for America's entrance into WWI. They were at the helm for WWII. Truman took us to Korea. He also recognized Israel helping to start a war in the Middle East that we paid for in spades. Kennedy got us in and Johnson pretty much faked a reason to fight in Vietnam, and Syria. The Republicans were responsible for the Indian Wars, took us into the Spanish American War, The Gulf War, Afghanistan, and Iraq. For fuck sake use Google before you post rubbish.
@Raulbikcube
@Raulbikcube 4 жыл бұрын
MAC VENA THANK YOU! I was going to type all that up as soon as I saw that comment! Thank you for saving me an hour of typing and fact-checking!
@yuppiehi
@yuppiehi 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to debates like this one during the 1960s gives me a gentle reminder that back then, we argued about things that were tangible, such as the war, poverty, and communism. Today, the left finds themselves arguing about the big boogeyman no one can see - the non-tangibles like the environment, equality, equity, and social identity. The conservatives continue to debate the tangibles like they did during the 1960s and before but find themselves today in a situation where the opposition just doesn't know how to argue the issues. And this is why we fight instead of coming up with the right direction to head this country and the civil society - one can't even start the argument because the left will attempt to destroy you beforehand.
@stevevandien310
@stevevandien310 6 жыл бұрын
Two titans, indeed. Both brilliant and eloquent. But Buckley is very much Vidal's superior in logical debate. Time and again Buckley bests Vidal in that regard. Yet Vidal kept his cool and counterpunched effectively, although with rhetorical flourishes as opposed to logic.
@byTjo
@byTjo 3 жыл бұрын
Vidal won. That's all.
@Frip36
@Frip36 4 жыл бұрын
Vidal ruined him. And I'm no liberal.
@tommym321
@tommym321 4 жыл бұрын
Captain Sunday ever see his debate with Noam Chomsky? Ugh. He was destroyed
@jeffym8929
@jeffym8929 4 жыл бұрын
You’ll have to give a specific moment when that occurred please
@jeffym8929
@jeffym8929 4 жыл бұрын
The name Chomsky certainly doesn’t belong alongside Vidal’s and Buckley’s, so please refrain
@karlbjornsson5004
@karlbjornsson5004 Жыл бұрын
Both men sound pretentious and aristocratic, especially Buckley whose delivery is outright pompous the way he ends his sentences. Praps educated people talked that way - way back then.
@roughhabit9085
@roughhabit9085 8 ай бұрын
The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances…
@Arareemote
@Arareemote 8 ай бұрын
Vidal doesn't sound in the least bit pretentious to me. Though in a debate where the two figures absolutely despise each other, condescension is just one of the many feelings to be expected. Buckley, who didn't learn English until later in life probably developed the patrician affect trying to fit in and it just stuck.
@FauxMolder
@FauxMolder 7 жыл бұрын
9:28... "insouciance"? Well, I don't really care what that word means. These nagging, nit-pickers of negativism are irritating to the ear. They both look and sound as if they're exuding flatulence as they speak... which effects a nasally, effeminate affectation to their debate. If only contemporary POTUS candidates were as entertaining...
@byTjo
@byTjo 3 жыл бұрын
Like a dog hearing a high pitched noise~
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