Stacja Kontroli Trakcji - join us on Facebook: / stacjakontrolitrakcji Follow us on Instagram: / 4x4.tests.on.rollers Alfa Romeo Stelvio 2.0 TBi Q4 (2017) vs Porsche Macan 2.0T AWD (2017) #duszaniespokojna #porsche #alfaromeo
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@665Thunder Жыл бұрын
Solid performance by the Alfa, the Macan took double the throuttle input to achieve comparable results, meaning it will handle sensibly worse in offroad or in low traction conditions
@teerexness8 ай бұрын
Looks like the Stelvio handled slippage better, while also looking much better and costing $15K less. Congratulations Alfa Romeo!
@wheel_ian61742 жыл бұрын
Top 🔝 Alfa! Top 🔝 Stelvio ♥
@antonfloor3442 жыл бұрын
The Alfa outperformed the Porsche but they both did very well.
@amelsfr Жыл бұрын
the Alfa Romeo Stelvio did a lot better than the Porsche Macan
@CVO_MAN3 ай бұрын
The Q4 system by Alfa Romeo is at the top.
@ManuelRodriguez-712 жыл бұрын
Stelvio vencedor indiscutible.
@facundopronotti56992 жыл бұрын
Alfa Romeo 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
@thomaspellegrini405 Жыл бұрын
Alfa Romeo is better
@10089805011 ай бұрын
Alfa is better
@michelebicc69832 жыл бұрын
Solid performance for both cars. I wonder what would have happened if you were able to turn the ESP off in the Alfa.
@665Thunder Жыл бұрын
you can't easily turn the ESP off in the Stelvio
@miks564 Жыл бұрын
@@665Thunder Looking for which fuse to unplug is not an "easy way". :) That said, ESP should not have anything to interfere with these tests.
@yankost77322 жыл бұрын
Stelvio - nice!
@toninocars2 жыл бұрын
Alfa did better, newer model perhaps has better software.
@robertvlasceanu38362 жыл бұрын
Very similar performance, although the driver in the macan is either too aggressive or the system allows more slippage. Great video :)
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
Systems allows for that, actually system does that 🙂 Thanks!
@bobceffo2 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thank you for making me smile
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
@@bobceffo What exactly made you smile?
@miks564 Жыл бұрын
allowing more slippage = less effective in real conditions.
@vampyrelycan992 жыл бұрын
The Macan's traction/throttle management seems too aggressive IMO. BTW does it come with the rear PTV diff?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
This one has front and rear open diffs.
@otakarprochazka78762 жыл бұрын
Which mode select in alfa? D N A ? It is important. LSD or not??????
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
It was N. No lsd.
@otakarprochazka78762 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers in D mode it is better
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
@@otakarprochazka7876 Why?
@otakarprochazka78762 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers because electronic Are way more benevolent
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
@@otakarprochazka7876 I would rather say that All Weather could be better here, not Dynamic.
@valdius852 жыл бұрын
great job. as always ;)
@sirgalahad7772 жыл бұрын
Expected better performance from Porsche.
@tyablo2 жыл бұрын
what you mean better? it is just a base macan
@sirgalahad7772 жыл бұрын
@@tyablo Compared to Alfa Romeo. What do you mean by saying a base Macan? They only have Macan and Cayenne as SUV vehicles.
@tyablo2 жыл бұрын
@@sirgalahad777 wow you don't realy have a clue what base model means, do you?. base model macan is 249hp 2.0 turbo 4 cylinder.
@sirgalahad7772 жыл бұрын
@@tyablo all models share same AWD system. So if you think it needs more HP to work properly it's you who doesn't have a single clue about AWD systems.
@tyablo2 жыл бұрын
@@sirgalahad777 wow are you retaded or what? base macan starts at 50k as I remeber. ain't cheap but at that price it works very well
@facundopronotti56992 жыл бұрын
Alfa 😘
@nicom67482 жыл бұрын
For April Fools 2023, you should put 4 rollers down
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
That may work. Or I will test a trailer.
@sirgalahad7772 жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers That may work yes, but you'll end up with a damaged AWD system! :))
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
@@sirgalahad777 And that would be good video 😉 But why do you think that four rollers would damage it?
@dimitu_2 жыл бұрын
Now that is surprising. Do they have the same system?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
Mechanics are probably the same.
@miks564 Жыл бұрын
Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but the Q4 system the Stelvio is an Alfa Romeo patent.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers Жыл бұрын
@@miks564Actually it's not, it's Magna system.
@miks564 Жыл бұрын
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers What’s from Magna? The two differentials or the complete system with the electronic brain and software included? Honest question, I don’t know the answer.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers Жыл бұрын
@@miks564 Center transfer case including clutch-pack and controller. I don't know if diffs are from Magna to. When it comes to software - that may be Alfa.
@scu5492 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Stelvio has similar AWD system with Jeep Grand Cherokee?
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
Nope, it has similar system with Macan :)
@marcbemme47042 жыл бұрын
But the alfa has LSD differential and that's makes all the difference.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers2 жыл бұрын
@@marcbemme4704 Not equipped, it's optional - Performance Plus package.
@marcotr01862 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Porsche
@user-ht6op7qe3j Жыл бұрын
Pure superiority of alfa romeo stelvio!
@aaronc15002 жыл бұрын
I was in love with my Giulia and Alfa Romeo as a brand, however, I will never again buy/recommend another Alfa Romeo in my life. I had the brake by wire system fail on me and it caused me to crash and total the car. They sent someone from Bosch to diagnose the vehicle and in the charts it clearly showed that something malfunctioned (brakes were slammed 2 seconds before the impact at 40 MPH and it took more than 1.5 seconds for the speed to start going down.) Stellantis told me that they were not going to take responsibility for it and that I needed to have my insurance pay for the vehicle. Absolute garbage. I will never recommend this car brand to anyone again! Buy an AUDI, BMW or Mercedes instead. alfa vehicles are a death trap!!!
@tjstrongbone53732 жыл бұрын
I think you are full of scheiße.
@alessandrotrane4372 жыл бұрын
Brake by wire is from Bosh (Germany)… have fun with Audi BMW &Co. 😂
@aaronc15002 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrotrane437 Why do some people say its Bosch and other Brembo? Does anyone not know who made this system? lol! Oh and I will! At least in the other cars my brakes will not fail on me.lol
@maurizio97032 жыл бұрын
@@aaronc1500 non sai nemmeno la marca del tuo impianto fren iecco impara pompa freni brake by wire CONTINETAL- BOSH ABS- BREMBO pinze freno impara triste persona
@aaronc15002 жыл бұрын
@@maurizio9703 Responsabilità vicaria. Triste e poco intelligente persona.