SLIP TEST - Nissan Qashqai All Mode 4x4-i vs Dacia Duster 4WD -

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3 жыл бұрын

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Nissan Qashqai 2.0 MT All Mode 4x4-i (2007)
vs
Dacia Duster 1.6 1MT 4WD (2016)
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@jonnybravo9498 Жыл бұрын

Słaby test. Szkoda czasu na oglądanie. 👎

@4x4.tests.on.rollers Жыл бұрын

Słaby bo? Jakieś argumenty czy ot komentarz bez treści?

@matteoxavier1205 3 жыл бұрын

Nissan did a preatty Good job back then for a Urban SUV !

@sergeyg436 3 жыл бұрын

The Qashqai is quite good for an old suv

@kubiyoshi2744 3 жыл бұрын

Not suv but crossover.

@Ahto42 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting was that it did cut power to the solenoid when the one rear wheel had traction. Like it tryed few times and for protection of the 4wd system the amps where at 0. And the BA LSD did not work too anymore.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

We don't know if it was protection or confusion of the system :)

@Softroader 3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers It feels strange; it tries, but after a while it feels as if it has decided to send only the minimum torque, as if it didn't want to involve the traction control on the rear wheels. It feels like some kind of protection to not overload the multi-plate clutch or its electromagnetic control.

@jovandjukic5923 3 жыл бұрын

What we should look on this monitoring system?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

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@JachuJustyDriver 2 жыл бұрын

Jak na takie zwykłe crossovery, to super działają te napędy. Ciekaw jestem jak sobie radzą w warunkach drogowych, np na śniegu

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 жыл бұрын

Obydwa bardzo dobrze, aczkolwiek na drodze Nissan będzie radził sobie lepiej. Poza drogą odwrotnie.

@zbigniewkwiatek5797 7 ай бұрын

Wejdź na terenwizja i zobacz co babka dasterem robi

@ironwill665 3 жыл бұрын

Any plans on doing these tests with; *Jeep GC, Wrangler *Ford Explorer *Toyota 4Runner *Land Rover Defender *GMC Yukon *GMC Acadia *Nissan Armada * Chev Tahoe *Lincoln Aviator Would like to see the above tested, searched your vids & nothing came up. Thanks

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

Majority of those cars are not available in Europe... 🙁

@user-yt1lc9oz2q 3 жыл бұрын

scoda octavia 2 scout and volvo xc70 country cross. would be nice to see, what they can!)

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

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@koukounou 2 жыл бұрын

Is the same behavior with the Qashqai ( 1st gen) without ESP?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 жыл бұрын

You mean not equipped with ESP?

@koukounou 2 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes exactly

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 жыл бұрын

@@koukounou Then its behaviour will be completely different. It will fail diagonal, lateral and three rollers tests.

@koukounou 2 жыл бұрын

Bummer! Thanks for the info

@cptrs8609 3 жыл бұрын

Siema mam pytanie do swas. Jaka jest szansa na najnowszego Land Rover Defender❤️

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

Cześć, wszystko zależy od ochotników 🙂

@m80116 3 жыл бұрын

I am surprises as to why Dacia didn't make the car overcome the one wheel traction test by default. What's the point of letting the car having an Auto setting if it can't even get out an ice patch!? It's quite common on some icy venues where you park by the side of the road to have a condition like that. It doesn't even make sense you disable the ESP, so theoretically you're allowed to slip wheels even more... and you actually sleep them less and exert best traction on the only gripping wheel.

@m80116 3 жыл бұрын

BTW still disappointed both failed the rear single wheel test, but Dacia did move quite a lot more, it was really trying :)

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

@@m80116 That's nothing unusual, many cars can't pass this test. But that doesn't mean that awd system is bad, such situation is rather rare in real conditions.

@m80116 3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I accept that but it wasn't my point. I'd expect manufacturer to offer 4WD cars that work without fiddling with buttons or modes. And to be honest, 3 wheels on ice is not so uncommon in some places. Far less likely is to expect the driver to engage or disengage special driving modes. When the car is capable it should figure it out on its own. Realistically not something very familiar outside a circle of car enthusiasts like I assume we are.

@lukeluke7777 3 жыл бұрын

A możecie się pokusić o zrobienie testu Korando 3 i 4 gen? I Rexton? Dziękuję

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

Chętnie, jeśli tylko znajdą się ochotnicy z tymi samochodami...

@lukeluke7777 3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers a sam posiadam korando 3gen. Chwilowo jednak masa zajęć i brak czasu żeby podjechać. BTW gdzie kręcicie filmy?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

@@lukeluke7777 Zasadniczo Rzeszów, ale bywamy w różnych częściach kraju, w drugiej połowie sierpnia będziemy w województwach wschodnich :)

@lukeluke7777 3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers to jak się nie znajdzie do połowy/końca sierpnia chętny to się chętnie zgłoszę. W sumie do rzeszowa mam trochę ponad 100km więc problemu nie mam. Teraz tylko z czasem

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

@@lukeluke7777 Zapraszamy :) A skąd jesteś? Może my będziemy gdzieś w Twojej okolicy :)

@MultiBobix 3 жыл бұрын

Czy może ktoś udostępnić Mazdę CX-5?

@konkludujac7892 2 жыл бұрын

Last try should be 3 rollers, lock, ESP off and HANDBREAK on

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 жыл бұрын

That's not the point of the test. Besides - handbrake on probably disengages awd system (at least in Nissan). We tried that trick on Mitsubishi Outlander II, didn't help: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMeWo5WQrsnLd2Q.html

@denisdanielmuresan4316 3 жыл бұрын

You can see the solenoid from transmission measured in Ampers. When is 0 there is no more brake at the wheels. The car starts with a certain value and after few attempts it get 0 Amps. Why is that. To protect transmission. Surely with 0 Amps your car just slipps and never moves. Looks like you have to press gas pedal over 20% to intervene.

@denisdanielmuresan4316 3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yes in lateral and diagonal did not happend because i think the car was almost able to pass. But if the car would have stayed a bit longer the solenoid would get 0 amps. Maybe there is a certain time where the solenoid can be excited and the just shuts off. Idk.

@tomekkat6081 3 жыл бұрын

A ja bym z chęcią zobaczył test hybrydowych napędów 4x4, z silnikami elektrycznymi zasilającymi tylną oś.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

Są na kanale - Outlander PHEV, Eclipse Cross PHEV, Rav4 IV Hybrid, Rav4 V Hybrid, Peugeot 5008 Hybrid4, Mini Countryman Hybrid.

@paulwhat322 Жыл бұрын

Is it the Same car?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers Жыл бұрын

Nope but they share some technologies.

@vadimivanov511 3 жыл бұрын

Rav4?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

You can many of them on my channel 🙂

@english-is-fun 3 жыл бұрын

Pewnie kwestia gustu, ale orurowanie było modne 15 lat temu.

@mikedefoe9697 3 жыл бұрын

Chętniej bym porównał z kolejnym prawdopodobnym bliźniakiem czyli: Renault Koleos

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

Jeżeli masz Koleosa, to zapraszam na test.

@motogs3929 3 жыл бұрын

Надеюсь эти видео, смотрят автопроизводители. Чтобы работать над своими ошибками.

@JMaksym 3 жыл бұрын

A czy to przypadkiem tak nie jest, że tylny dyferencjał w Dusterze, Qashqaiu i Xtrailu i chyba jeszcze Koleosie jest ten sam? Tak mi sie wydaje, że te systemy zasadniczo są te same w tych autach. Jeżeli ktoś może potwierdzić do dobra informacja dla posiadaczy Xtraila czy Qashqaia bo mogą dorwać tylną szperę która jest na rynku do Dusterów ;)

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

To samo jest sprzęgło napędu, ale czy te same są dyfry - nie wiem :)

@user-wg2vw9xs5x 3 жыл бұрын

Кашак крашеный с права

@dragan5481 2 жыл бұрын

Ajde sevrolet kaptivu 2008 godiste

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 жыл бұрын

If only I could find it...

@mangreek9975 3 жыл бұрын

Nissan > Dacia, but Nissan have more power. Duster 1.6 2016 - 156nm Qashqai 2.0 2008 - 196nm For a single wheel, we need more NM for traction.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 3 жыл бұрын

Nope, we need just a tiny part of what they both have.

@ilyaviktorovich1831 6 ай бұрын

ESP срабатывает при полном газе ! Дастер легко с 3-х роликов съезжает ! Больше газу и все сработает как надо !

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 6 ай бұрын

ESP is activated during understeer and oversteer. It is not activated in this test, here TC works. Duster cannot pass the last test, just like Qashqai, no matter how much throttle there is.

@user-dw9zc9iy2m 6 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollersмне показалось, на малых скоростях, около 10 км/ч оба автомобиля пытались. Но на более высокой скорости, вероятно, что бы не сойти критически с траектории, данный режим не задействуется. Хотя, надо по-дольше подержать и небольшие скоростя, и "полный газ", тк усилие в тормозной системе растёт постепенно, а как только дроссель отпустили все это "прижимание" сбрасывается. Я тоже уверен, что дастер пройдёт последний тест!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 6 ай бұрын

@@user-dw9zc9iy2mWatch the solenoid A control current during last test and you will know why both cars cannot pass it.

@user-jq9mt3cp2j 6 ай бұрын

However, as a Nissan Qashqai owner, I have to say that it goes everywhere. when I have it on automatic or on lock, it doesn't understand anything. unlike the terios i also have

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 6 ай бұрын

What do you mean by "it doesn't understand anything"?

@user-jq9mt3cp2j 6 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers is an expression in Greek that means it is unstoppable

@4x4.tests.on.rollers 6 ай бұрын

@@user-jq9mt3cp2j Thanks 🙂 Here's detailed video about AWD system of Qashqai: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/brJinJtmrJ2aZ3U.html

@billy84000 4 ай бұрын

XAXAXAXAAX ρε Θεούλη ''it doesn't understand anything''? Τρελάθηκε ο άλλος! Μόνο στην Ελλάδα τα λέμε αυτά! Το Qashqai το κοιτάω και εγώ γιατί αυτό το μοντέλο έχει 200mm απόσταση από το έδαφος. Θεωρώ πως με λίγο ψήλωμα και χωμάτινο λάστιχο πρέπει να πηγαίνει πράγματι παντού.

@user-jq9mt3cp2j 4 ай бұрын

@@billy84000 πράγματι τα έπαιξε σου λέει τι λέει αυτός τώρα χαχαχαχα. Αλλά όντως το Qashqai φτιαγμένο όπως το δικό μου πάει παντού