SLM Metal 3D printing by PCBWAY - Stainless steel vs Tool steel vs Aluminum - how strong are they?

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My Tech Fun

My Tech Fun

Күн бұрын

SLM 3D printers are expensive, but we can use 3D printing services. In this video three different 3D printed materials are tested: stainless steel, tool steel and aluminum. From tool steel a 13mm diameter twist driss is printed too, which will be tested for drilling into aluminum and regular steel.
www.pcbway.com/
STL files and results are downloadable from:
www.mytechfun.com/video/237 (soon)
Contents:
0:00 Introduction
1:19 Ordering process
2:02 Unboxing, analyzing the objects
6:15 Weight
6:45 Tensile (pulling) test
7:31 Layer adhesion test
8:35 Hook test
9:50 Twist drill test
12:15 Results
13:09 Conclusions
#3dprinting #pcbway #metal3dprinting #slm3dprinting

Пікірлер: 52
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff Жыл бұрын
The drill bit was impressive indeed
@Mark_5150
@Mark_5150 Жыл бұрын
I know these tests are expensive, but comparing these prints to CNC machined parts of the same materials would have been interesting. Thanks!
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Good idea, I hope in a near future a similar company will ask for the review, I can ask same parts manufactured with CNC and SLM. (or maybe again PCBWAY(?) )
@dinosoarskill17
@dinosoarskill17 Жыл бұрын
As always, thanks for the testing! Fascinating results.
@AlexKall
@AlexKall Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for this test!
@BobWidlefish
@BobWidlefish Жыл бұрын
I love all your tests, including the twist drill. I have the exact same types of questions you do! You can learn a LOT about important properties in just a few tests by choosing tests carefully, like you do! BTW, the results link in the video description is broken. Video 232 is the last one to have a working results page. Maybe a sync problem between your staging and production? Have a great day!
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Sorry about the broken link, I can fix this only in 4-5 hours from now, when I get home from workplace.
@--JawZ--
@--JawZ-- 11 ай бұрын
I love the addition of adding the twist drill to the test, just because. Know we the masses know of the durability of the 3d printed parts, in a general sense. Keep up this great work!
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff Жыл бұрын
4:44 And they told you they're more expensive because they're higher quality? Higher than what?? How can that part go through QC?
@JankoTuta
@JankoTuta Жыл бұрын
Instead of printing a drill. You could totally print a tool holder, as in carbide insert holder, so replace the cutting surfaces with inserts. You could make a simple custom tool that way.
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see more of the process of how those were made. How far are we from metal 3d printing as a "consumer grade" product ?
@frankbauerful
@frankbauerful Жыл бұрын
Consumer "grade" is definitely there already. The problem is consumer "price". It's only reasonable for high end consumers who need custom parts. E.g. if you wanted a custom sprocket for your bike with a nonstandard number of teeth, metal 3D printing could make it for you at a price that is reasonable in the context of bicycle building. I'm referring to ordering parts from 3d printing services. Metal 3D printers are too expensive for ordinary people.
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes Жыл бұрын
Most of the powder printers tech is tied up with a patent so unless someone comes up with a method that they open source or one of the patent holders makes a consumer grade machine we will be waiting over a decade at least.
@jcugnoni
@jcugnoni Жыл бұрын
SLM printing is not and will probably never be a consumer grade process. Beside the lasers and high precision optics, the materials are inevitably expensive due to the powdering process and the machines consume a lot of Nitrogen or Argon gases. In terms of use it involves handling very fine metal powders that are potentially risky for your health and can explode if mishandled. You need safety equipments and very clean work practice as well. Finally, making good quality parta in SLM is not trivial. There are way more elements/parameters to think about (heat buildup/transfer, sag, residual stresses and thermal deformations, annealing steps) to make a good part. This is aerospace grade technology and thus come as a premium. For more consumer / lower cost applications, binder / sintering methods (fdm with binder/powder blend or binder jetting on powder bed) seem more appropriate. But due to the equipment required and complexity of the binder removal/sintering steps, those steps are ideally used as a service. Some filament makers have developped that strategy (buy filament, then send part to their partner for sintering).
@frankbauerful
@frankbauerful Жыл бұрын
@@jcugnoni Also there will always be much less demand for metal 3D printing. Normal people need an order of magnitude fewer metal objects than plastic objects.
@Biru_to
@Biru_to 10 ай бұрын
​@@frankbauerfula sprocket would make more sense to get laser or water jet cut, which I think is far cheaper than 3d printing metal. But clearly all of these things still aren't that cheap, even if it is less expensive than metal 3d printing.
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes Жыл бұрын
Very impressive!
@cdrbvgewvplxsghjuytunurqwfgxvc
@cdrbvgewvplxsghjuytunurqwfgxvc Жыл бұрын
Very unique test. Totally baffled that it could drill steel 😮
@bjornolsen2368
@bjornolsen2368 Жыл бұрын
Impressive
@jcugnoni
@jcugnoni Жыл бұрын
Great tests and discussion. Makes me want to try PCBWay services for some parts in the future. By the way, how much time does it take between the order and delivered part in your experience?
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
In my case, it was 3 weeks (to EU)
@ferenctaisz449
@ferenctaisz449 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see how much that drill bit can take before it needs sharpening
@santiagoblandon3022
@santiagoblandon3022 Жыл бұрын
Yeah... we spend hours printing things we could get for cents in the hardware store, so no worries about the drill haha
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
:-)
@dinosoarskill17
@dinosoarskill17 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am glad that you find it interesting. I was curious too.
@dinosoarskill17
@dinosoarskill17 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTechFun as a designer it's (PCBWay) a useful resource for prototyping. Never have used them yet, because we have most our own machines, but great to see their accuracy. i may have missed it, but what was the turn around time from ordering to delivered?
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor Жыл бұрын
What was the temperature outside for the test? Curious because I had my only 3d printed metal parts fail last Winter outside with no stress besides temp. They just cracked in half when I wasn't watching. Curious if temperature makes a big difference for 3d printed metal failures.
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
It was approx 16°C
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor Жыл бұрын
@@MyTechFun Temperature tests would be awesome to see on your channel if you also find that an interesting question. Mine failed at about 4 days of 15°-20°F...not sure what that is about -6° or 7°C? Love the channel. Glad to see you still at it all this time later. Congrats!
@user-df6ht8hl8p
@user-df6ht8hl8p Жыл бұрын
PCB is very expensive...i dont have an enclosure and i wanted a mini satsana air duct and i uploaded the file and i saw a price of around 40$ ! for ABS FDM 3d printing! Finally i made an enclosure and i printed mine with 1,4$ !
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Yes, the cheapest option is if you can do it yourself ;-) But it is good to know the possibilities, if you really need something from Alu for example, you can do an order.
@GreenAppelPie
@GreenAppelPie Жыл бұрын
I’m trying them out on an aluminum print. So far they’re a week overdue. They really have a way to go on QC looking at those deformed pieces
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Yes, and I am sure, that they are not damaged during shipping. Packaging is great.
@arvidbjorkstrom6554
@arvidbjorkstrom6554 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the drill is not something you would print, but there are absolutely cases where there are no commercially available version you can buy. If you need a custom milling bit for instance, or some other custom shaping tool. And some geometries might not be simple to make with regular processes, so regular custom manufacturing might also be impossible or really expensive.
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. Probably next time I will design some custom lathe cutting tool, with some shape on it (like waves or similar..)
@free_spirit1
@free_spirit1 5 ай бұрын
Not cheap, but damn, that's not expensive either!
@Kliir
@Kliir Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video))) The tests are very informative) I wonder what if we print cutters from aluminum, in which there will be grooves for carbide inserts, and check how they will drill and mill)
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Good thinking, but stainless steel would be much better for this (with space for carbide inserts). But precise surfaces should be worked out. 3D printing don't have nice surface like CNC machined parts.
@jonrussell2229
@jonrussell2229 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTechFun I was also shocked to see the deformation and warping in the parts. Must be from the sintering?? after file is printed?
@frankbauerful
@frankbauerful Жыл бұрын
What was the comparison for the "higher price" comment?
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Average Chinese SLM 3D printing service, I tried several (not EU or US, they are more expensive)
@sierraecho884
@sierraecho884 Жыл бұрын
Why not ? SLS Metal parts are extremely hard (but brittle) so drilling is no issue.
@FilmFactry
@FilmFactry Жыл бұрын
It may have been interesting to compare say printed Aluminum to CNC aluminum to determine what percentage powdered 3D printing is to solid metal.
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Same thinking we have. I already wrote to PCBWAY about this request, I hope they will accept it. Alu and Stainless steel what I am curious about. At least 1-2 test objects (per material) shouldn't break the PCBWAYs budget ;-)
@synooptic5475
@synooptic5475 9 ай бұрын
Can we make gun parts?
@mastermaker666
@mastermaker666 Жыл бұрын
The one practical and critical measurement that you didn't make is the dimensions of the drill as if it is dimensionally accurate enough then custom cutting tools suddenly become a very real possibility......
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
If you take a closer look of the surface, you will see how rough it is. Not good for accuracy as it is now. If we really need an accurate tool, functional surfaces should be smoothed.
@mastermaker666
@mastermaker666 Жыл бұрын
@@MyTechFun Figured as much but if the diameter is precise and concentric then custom flat-bottom countersinks, annular cutters and other things that are easy to sharpen could be a real possibility as for most cutters the shape/flutes tend to be the most complex part and the actual cutting edges tend to be relative simple by comparison.
@inmyimage1081
@inmyimage1081 Жыл бұрын
Good tests again. Would be really interesting if you could have tested the same parts CNC from raw metal, you need to dig deep into your wallet and get that done! Just kidding although it would be really interesting to see. Do you know if they heat treated the tool steel?
@MyTechFun
@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын
Already suggested earlier and wake up my curiosity, sooner or later I will test this. About heat threat, probably not.
@Ali36999
@Ali36999 3 ай бұрын
🙂❤❤❤❤
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