How strong is 3D printed metal? SLM (stainless steel) vs FDM (ABS) by JLCPCB 3D printing services

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In this video I want to find out how strong is SLM 3D printed metal (316L stainless steel) and I will compare it with FDM printed ABS. SLM printers are expensive, that's why it is good to have affordable source for 3D printing services. JLCPCB primary services is PCB manufacturing, but they also have 3D printing services.
jlcpcb.com/3d-printing/CYY
Results in Excel download from: www.mytechfun.com/video/212
Mentioned in the video:
SLA vs MJF: • SLA (9000R) vs MJF (PA...
Steel density: kg-m3.com/material/steel
Shortie, 3D printed twist drill (plastic): • Educational project: 3...
Contents:
0:00 Introduction
1:00 Ordering process
2:00 Unboxing
2:18 ABS parts
4:20 Metallic parts
9:05 Steel density check
9:52 ABS tensile test
10:31 ABS layer adhesion test
10:53 Steel tensile test
11:40 IZOD impact test
15:01 Drilling, tapping
15:52 Bending test
17:22 Torque test
19:46 Creep test
22:23 Twist drill test
24:28 Results
27:04 Conclusions
#3dprintedmetal #slm3dprinting #jlcpcb #3dprintingmetal #3dprintingservice #abs3dprinting

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@AwesomeBrixx 2 жыл бұрын

I always love watching your videos. I believe this is my first time commenting, but I've watched many of your videos. You put so much effort and production value into these videos without getting many views. I can really appreciate someone doing that. I also really enjoy and appreciate how analytical you are with your tests and how thorough you are. Keep up the great videos!

@ashiha13 Жыл бұрын

I love how diligent you are with your tests. Thank you!

@makarlock Жыл бұрын

I love the homemade material characterization lab! Thanks for documenting your results with this vendor!

@christopherrumford Жыл бұрын

A truly great video indeed, that 3d printed drill bit really impressed making me appreciate the possibilities of metal 3d printing.

@madude91 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful work! Thanks for taking the time to educate us :)

@Spectt84 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the work you put into your tests! 3d printed metal looks amazing, I can't wait for technology to develop to a point where we can have these metal printers cheaply in our homes

@jeffsabel9363 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. I've wondered about the strength of printed metal and the possibility of machining it. Very thorough video as always. Have a good day.

@d.jeffdionne Жыл бұрын

Excellent, thank you for collecting the data. I'd love to see them offer SLM in Aluminum, especially... ease of machining after printing is important, my/most small tabletop precision lathe and milling machines struggle with stainless steels.

@colinfielder6695 Жыл бұрын

I loved seeing the metal 3d prints! That drill bit was amazing

@scottlewis3506 Жыл бұрын

Great video. It is extremely impressive how far we have come with 3d printed metal.

@cadneemountai2791 Жыл бұрын

This looks like printed metal may be useful for instead of castings you can do this and put all the finished or critical dimensions with a mill or lathe! Very cool!

@tiberiulaurian7408 Жыл бұрын

Igor, thanks for your nice videos. Appreciate how thorough are your tests. Keep up the good work!

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@lorenzobruschetta9919 Жыл бұрын

That’s a really valuable video, greetings and thank you for your time

@uther10 Жыл бұрын

Great video and great experiments! Thanks for sharing the tests!

@ExMachinaEngineering Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. And very thorough analysis. Kudos

@sreal-iron5898 Жыл бұрын

subscribed on the first video i have seen from you , which was this one. these videos are very valuable ! thank you for your hard work and nice presenting !

@1Esteband Жыл бұрын

Great video as always!

@stefanguiton Жыл бұрын

Great videos as always!

@suvijakengr3374 Жыл бұрын

Support comment from Thailand. Your VDO is great information and useful.

@gerson3035 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations for appearing in Maker Update on the Digi-key channel, we hope that more people know the excellent content that you upload to this channel

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for informing me!

@JLC3DP Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for your efforts to help to test those materials, really helpful~

@Fpvfixit Жыл бұрын

Sponsor him

@JLC3DP Жыл бұрын

@@Fpvfixit 😆Definitly no problem~

@playmaka2007 Жыл бұрын

Great video! would love to see tests done on Virtual Foundry metal filaments for FDM printers!

@_Piers_ Жыл бұрын

Excellent stuff :)

@andrewwatts1997 11 ай бұрын

This is amazing ! We could now design custum width drills with built in threading and champhering ! ( for any materials sufficiently softer than stainless steel ) I will deffinatly be using this service to help me with my prototypes.

@avejst 2 жыл бұрын

Impressive Steel Great test Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us :-)

@GBCobber 2 жыл бұрын

I had the same problem with a PETG fan duct deforming at the nozzle like yours. So I made another one and coated that last bottom inch or so with epoxy, inside and out .That solved it. Before it was worse than yours since my ducts are quite thin. It's been a couple of years now with the epoxy it's still pristine.

@mycinemax2653 Жыл бұрын

what kind of epoxy?, can you share?

@GBCobber Жыл бұрын

@@mycinemax2653 Just a regular two part epoxy like UHU or Araldite. I just used a cheap dollar store brand and just pantied a little on, letting the excess drip off a corner where it won't interrupt the airflow.

@mycinemax2653 Жыл бұрын

@@GBCobber thank you..

@hertz1984 Жыл бұрын

Great video. now I'd be curious to see a comparison of SLM and FDM metal parts.

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

Yes, that would be interesting, but that filament is extremely expensive (that needs sintering)

@tinchodias Жыл бұрын

More tests about accuracy of the metal parts, would be interesting.

@mrnlce7939 Жыл бұрын

Might be interesting to see it the 3D printed metal could be sharpened and how much it would cost to make a custom knife. Great video. Keep up the good work.

@valian8985 Жыл бұрын

The types of steel used could be a problem....

@rinokentie8653 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting!

Жыл бұрын

Awesome video.

@noway8233 Жыл бұрын

Nice work , very strong steel , a yes sls machines are super expensive , but they ate amazing , some proces after printing do some kind of anhiling or cocking the printed steel (i dont known what machine and proceses they use).

@inmyimage1081 2 жыл бұрын

Good video, wish they had printed the steel test parts vertically and surprised that a professional printing service did such a bad job matching the specific dimensions. One thing that would be useful is if you could maintain a master test results file that combines the results of all your tests. Always like your testing methodology given the limitations of a small budget. Something that could be interesting and are relatively cheap in the US is a small hydraulic press for vertical compressive test.

@romain50b Жыл бұрын

Super interesting

@ezengondolkozom3700 Жыл бұрын

Great video and very nicely documented! are you Hungarian by the way?

@NemecJiri Жыл бұрын

Hi Igor, I really enjoy your videos. There are very fast printers like Bambu Lab X1 and FLSUN V400 on the market, would it be possible to test how much fast printing affects print strength? I think the hotend and the cooling method would have a big influence on the strength, I wonder if for example the volcano/volcano cht has more durable prints in high speeds than the v6 or creality hotend.

@valian8985 Жыл бұрын

You are right, diferent hotend give diferent strenght depending of speed, but its more a matter of flow (mm3 /s) E3d v6 will have a maximum flow of 10mm3, Volcano will be closer of 20 /25 mm3 Exeeding these flow rates will tend to give weaker prints because the plastic is improperly melted.

@qwertyqwerty9587 5 ай бұрын

This is awesome, big fan of your work. Also hope you do aluminum or titanium one day

@MyTechFun 5 ай бұрын

Something like this? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdGZoJV_zNSlhnU.html

@qwertyqwerty9587 5 ай бұрын

@@MyTechFun 😂 just like that thanks

@TheWoodWorkingPilot Жыл бұрын

very cool. thanks for these tests. Did you sharpen the stainless steel drill before drilling with it or you used it as it arrived from JLCPCB with zero post processing?

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

For wood zero post processing but I noticed a lot of heat. Then I just touched the back surfaces to grinder stone and then drill ali like a real tool

@medyk3D Жыл бұрын

And now I need to buy a SLM printer...

@ianirwin1237 Жыл бұрын

Good Morning Doctor Igor, Thank you for your teachings! I am curious.. Would you consider testing your 3D Printed (FDM) PLA, PLA+, or PLA advanced against the SLA metal? I ask because I am curious that the values of mechanical strength will be much closer in value compared to ABS as ABS is consistently weaker than your PLA testings. As such I think PLA/PLA + would be a better match up. Lastly, my friend how do I view the live updated excel spreadsheet of all filaments/substrates which have been tested? Thank you

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

I already did some similar tests, search on the channel a little bit. Or you can do it on my website: www.mytechfun.com/videos/3dprint

@GianmarioScotti 2 жыл бұрын

The truth is that the stainless steel part is not sintered but actually melted - the laser MELTS the metal particles. "Sintering" is not just misleading, it is wrong.

@vsigal Жыл бұрын

Could you test as well about welding ability ?

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

No, sorry, I don't have a welding machine (yet) :-(

@khucngantieu Жыл бұрын

I have a widget I need to 3d print in stainless steel. How do I go about it? I don't have the files to upload so I can't get anyone to print for me...

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

Login to their site, upload the file and you will see the estimated price. You can decide if you want to order it or not.

@user-ps1qj5mo2s 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for the details shared, though I already get my 3D order from JLC 😂😂😂 overall good quality and timing

@ronbaer67 Жыл бұрын

better test would be to test ultrafuse 316l FDM vs FDM ABS, Nylons or PC

@user-eg9dh6xt3r Жыл бұрын

ありがとうございます❤

@Andy-js5jy Жыл бұрын

I love your video and you're amazing 👏 And steel 3d printer is interesting and I don't know type of 3d printer making impossible things 🤔

@macmos1 Жыл бұрын

good vid

@johnwick7175 2 ай бұрын

Is it possible to print the threads into the part?

@MyTechFun 2 ай бұрын

Yes, but they are not accurate and smooth enough. I like to just ask for holes, then cut threads (only it is hard to cut in stainless steel)

@danielwilczak7833 Жыл бұрын

Can you release your drill STL file? I went on JLCPCB and the cost for parts were pretty expensive. Greater then $100. I would just like to see if the price has been drastically raised since your video.

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

That would be a big difference, when I tested it, it was $18. You can download it from this page: www.mytechfun.com/video/212

@danielwilczak7833 Жыл бұрын

@@MyTechFun It's $18.28. I guess the price is mostly based on volume and if it needs support. My part did not seem much bigger but price must be exponential with volume/support.

@gabor-smith Жыл бұрын

Grettings from Bečej

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

Hvala. Pozdrav!

@swedishpsychopath8795 Жыл бұрын

The years you spent as a student at the technical school paid off: We now know metal is stronger than plastic.

@synooptic5475 9 ай бұрын

Can we make gun parts?

@saumyacow4435 Жыл бұрын

Who did the metal printing for this and what process is it exactly?

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

JLCPCB 3D printing services. Laser melts metal powder layer by layer.

@saumyacow4435 Жыл бұрын

@@MyTechFun Ok, but I went looking at their site and all I could find was plastic 3d printing.. Is there a link for their metal printing service?

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

@@saumyacow4435 It is in the video, screen recorded from 1:00

@saumyacow4435 Жыл бұрын

@@MyTechFun Ok, found it, thanks :)

@lucascord11 10 ай бұрын

Great video! Do you recommend JLCPCB? I’m always aware to buy things in China 😬

@MyTechFun 10 ай бұрын

Since this video I ordered few things from them, when I need something stronger than 3D printed part on my printers.. They have a great price and also they have CNC services now (there will be a new video about CNC)

@Gengh13 Жыл бұрын

Drilling aluminum with a metal 3D printed drill bit is amazing.

@TommiHonkonen Жыл бұрын

You didn't specify the printing orientation? It it actually makes a difference as it would for your testing you need to specify it of course. Other than that they use software to make most out of the print volume. The model orientation doesn't make any difference in cad.

@mycinemax2653 Жыл бұрын

how much for printing that satsana shroud, I want them haha..

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

You can upload the file and see the estimate cost. But if you are able to print ABS, do it yourself, it is much cheaper.

@douglas2lilian 2 жыл бұрын

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын

8:17 ... The threads backwards on that 3D printed bolt?

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

As mentioned in video, there are two threads, like here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMelltmUqMqzpmQ.html

@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын

@@MyTechFun I heard there were 2 threads, but by looking at it, the threads are going in the opposite direction as normal threads. They "tighten" counter clockwise instead of clockwise.

@MyTechFun Жыл бұрын

@@deucedeuce1572 Yes, that's the trick, the other is smaller (smaller pitch) so it is not easily visible.

@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын

@@MyTechFun I see. thanks.

@martinTintin476 Жыл бұрын

sls why not?. metal can fix better then plastic and when drill made from good material without coating, you can run it. why not drilling

@oshio9129 Жыл бұрын

+1 Subscriber

@lolaa2200 Жыл бұрын

Wow dimensions of ABS part are totally off. For me that's a huge no no. That mean they can only print figurines but not mechanical part. I would never use their service after seeing that.