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Small Class Tuning & Open World Reward Changes - War Within Beta Update

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Dratnos

Dratnos

Күн бұрын

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@skarb5797
@skarb5797 Ай бұрын
"not too much to talk about" proceeds to yap for another 16 minutes. that's why he's the GOAT
@d4mephisto
@d4mephisto Ай бұрын
yapnos the goat! we
@xzalean
@xzalean Ай бұрын
that's good tech 🤓
@williamcolgin1987
@williamcolgin1987 Ай бұрын
"Opportunity to do anything" instead of "Obligation to do everything" should a dev mantra at Blizzard.
@PendlayRoe
@PendlayRoe Ай бұрын
12:00 This is an amazing change. Probably my favorite of all TWW changes. Being forced to do a 1 hour cooldown event like the Superbloom to get Veteran gear really sucked. Those events will also be more fun if you are doing them when YOU want to, especially when you have a lot of alts. The stress of completing these weeklies will definetly go down for a lot of casual players.
@painfullyavarage4316
@painfullyavarage4316 Ай бұрын
4:40 that choice node change is huge actually for m+, that's the node that is a choice between ray of frost damage and ray of frost AOEing. Having both makes ray a hard lock for m+ builds most likely, only downside is ray really doesnt interact with any hero talents so it could end up being kinda out of place rotation wise
@Sundagar
@Sundagar Ай бұрын
it defo feels bad atm in s4 not taking ray of frost for m+, it's such a strong nuke on ST and now we can use it to cleave regularly in TWW
@sashan6683
@sashan6683 Ай бұрын
Enhancement still can't play the Totemic hero talent as it's still trying to replace WFT but is no longer able to. Great to know they're listening to the feedback that we aren't able to give them.
@daniellucas5522
@daniellucas5522 Ай бұрын
Not a priority in the week or two leading to prepatch compared to the base talent trees. They've got another month and a half to fix bugs in the hero talents, they've got like 2 weeks to make sure the prepatch is playable.
@thelastspectre8141
@thelastspectre8141 Ай бұрын
Agree how can people test a spec or hero talents when the main ability is disabled....Imagine playing colossus arms and not being able to use demolish because it's disabled and the whole hero tree is based off it
@daniellucas5522
@daniellucas5522 Ай бұрын
@@thelastspectre8141 Nobody can test totemic on the PTR because the PTR doesn't have hero talent trees.
@thelastspectre8141
@thelastspectre8141 Ай бұрын
@@daniellucas5522 I was talking about the beta
@PendlayRoe
@PendlayRoe Ай бұрын
@@daniellucas5522 good point. Hero talents don't need to be finished for quite a while
@michaelb9683
@michaelb9683 Ай бұрын
Every week tons of mages changes, rogues totally ignored
@MeekoEdits
@MeekoEdits Ай бұрын
that’s right, they should’ve ignored mage and focus on rogue
@zenith_journey
@zenith_journey Ай бұрын
Try DH. Has even LESS than rogue
@albingrahn3191
@albingrahn3191 Ай бұрын
@@zenith_journeyIs that the same dh that got a complete rework not so long ago and became very very good?
@PendlayRoe
@PendlayRoe Ай бұрын
Frost Mage Spellslinger hero talent's gameplay is horrendous and basically hasn't changed at all since beta launch.
@jamesjohnsoniii8068
@jamesjohnsoniii8068 Ай бұрын
The rework rhat happened at the same time as tge rogue rework? Ya ​@@albingrahn3191
@lovelywaz
@lovelywaz Ай бұрын
Thanks Mathnos for calling the nerfs to Arcane Mage last week 🤭🤭
@ChaosKnighta
@ChaosKnighta Ай бұрын
Funny thing about the Enhance Elemental Blast revert - they never actually nerfed EB, they somehow nerfed chain lightning by 25%, so this patch they basically "reverted" nothing :D. They did fix/remove the chain lightning nerf though this build
@tylerbancino9403
@tylerbancino9403 Ай бұрын
For the players who care about the end of the expansion meta achievement, it’s super nice to work on these open world events as they come out.
@Euphonium1021
@Euphonium1021 Ай бұрын
Just a quick clarification cc procs were based on mana spent in DF but are changed to be based on damaging spells in TWW not the reverse
@scientistbird
@scientistbird Ай бұрын
Wonder how consistent they will be with patches. Imagine them adding the .0.5 and .1 open world event thingies like we've had in dragonflight that all had their own currencies and that were all... of varying engagingness. I would be surprised if they went "this is just another optional way to engage with the rewards, you may continue doing the same stuff as before and will get the new rewards too". Usually, they would put a new currency on their new content to make it unavoidable (for world content players) to still go to the new stuff 50+ times.
@Xynth25
@Xynth25 Ай бұрын
Love Marksmanship basically getting all of its changes in one go...and none of them actually did anything to fix the core problems of the spec.
@tiagopassarela
@tiagopassarela Ай бұрын
7:25 I completely agree with you here, I think every dps spec should have some form of AoE baseline spell/skill regardless of talents. Take Warlocks in beta for example, all specs have to take Implosion, Seed of corruption, Rain of fire no matter what build you are making so why not just make all three baseline for each spec and instead put another talent in place of the aoe spell?
@delenko3364
@delenko3364 Ай бұрын
@Dratnos I think these are the pre-expansion notes (I.E. 11.0 ptr notes that was dropped today). We haven't seen the ptr notes for beta. yet
@danhonks6264
@danhonks6264 Ай бұрын
Clearcasting is on a function of mana spent on live too - For every 1250 mana consumed (0.5% max on live) you have a 1% chance to get clearcasting. We probably have enough clearcasting stacks anyway but removing excess is good. Having infinite clearcasting would make arcane very broken. Unfortunately these nerfs feel like they're just hitting everything so hopefully this doesn't completely kneecap arcane
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- Ай бұрын
Less clear casts, less missiles which now do less damage and generate less arcane charges. You'll feel it in the dmg meter but also in the rotation. It'll be a lot more arcane blast/explosion orientated once again.
@drakedbz
@drakedbz Ай бұрын
Can you make a video discussing what the first two weeks are likely to look like for folks that do medium to high end-game content? Just trying to understand what level of time commitment I'll need to put in this time around (in part so I know how much time off I want to take).
@Spanakopitaa
@Spanakopitaa Ай бұрын
In Dragonflight, some of the Chest events were most often bugged and they have not fixed them yet, which is a major red flag for TWW knowing that similar events will exist.
@Shadowfolds
@Shadowfolds Ай бұрын
Thanks for reading that big blue post cause I sure as heck didn't want to
@Emzrogue
@Emzrogue Ай бұрын
RIP Rogues
@malthus0016
@malthus0016 Ай бұрын
what the hell is going on with rogues? most of the hero trees havent even had a first pass....
@endofexistence2149
@endofexistence2149 Ай бұрын
Rogues have had changes every patch cycle they are just in. Stealth so you can't see them. My rogue is on the bench for dk priest and maybe surv hunter.
@joelhodoborgas
@joelhodoborgas Ай бұрын
Bliizard have a few prefered classes and neglect the rest, just like in diablo 4.
@thatepicwizardguy
@thatepicwizardguy Ай бұрын
yup, dark ranger also just... sitting there with no changes being horrible
@endofexistence2149
@endofexistence2149 Ай бұрын
@@thatepicwizardguy hunters as a class are eating good though. Rogues not so much and probably not until mid way through twwi
@zuralani1
@zuralani1 Ай бұрын
I know how you feel. Believe it or not, demon hunter has actually had fewer changes than rogue this whole alpha/beta lol. It's hard not to feel bad when every week you see nothing for your class and a book for the same 3 classes.
@Karashote
@Karashote Ай бұрын
moonkins in shambles
@ephemerisone74
@ephemerisone74 Ай бұрын
and arcane is still gigabusted op ooper dooper strong. dw, tuning is not finished. the nerf will come. the buffs will come. they won't and can't really leave it like this.
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- Ай бұрын
@@ephemerisone74good joke
@Alex-RS91
@Alex-RS91 Ай бұрын
​@ephemerisone74 you can apply this comment to any expansion in like last 14 years. Every time someone gets screwed and someone is very strong.
@ephemerisone74
@ephemerisone74 Ай бұрын
@@Daimyo- time will tell. But I'm 100% going to be back here when it does happen
@ephemerisone74
@ephemerisone74 Ай бұрын
@@Alex-RS91 ahaha. Usually yeah, but it's never this bad. Arcane simming about 1.25 mill ST dps when other classes are around the 750-900k mark. 4% of that 1.25 mill is tier set. It's a bunch of legit BUGS making the damage that high. Boomkins are on the opposite end of the spectrum simming legit tank damage.
@Zikkar
@Zikkar Ай бұрын
That isn’t a beta update that is the a PTR update. It is clearly labeled as such
@DrBlocktopus
@DrBlocktopus Ай бұрын
Hello dratnos our name is everybody
@GreenPheonex
@GreenPheonex Ай бұрын
yippee dratnos!
@aahansen82
@aahansen82 Ай бұрын
LOL, YT is offering to translate your comment to English for me. :D
@OmegaSoypreme
@OmegaSoypreme Ай бұрын
Wow, thanks blizz. You totally saved enhancement with this update 🙄
@davidw.5984
@davidw.5984 Ай бұрын
Finally 😁
@hory121
@hory121 Ай бұрын
Fury warrior without meat cleaver 😭7:00
@aaronlewis4266
@aaronlewis4266 Ай бұрын
While arcane is getting a bunch of notes each week, the current version of the spec has some hyper degenerate gameplay. I'm talking spamming arcane barrage with no charges because it's the best way to get clear casting. Arcane base abilities are too weak and this would lead to our hero talent tree doing 35+% of our total damage.
@kylebb96
@kylebb96 Ай бұрын
Why are these notes for PTR and not for the Beta build? That makes no sense to me.
@amartian2
@amartian2 Ай бұрын
Dratnos looking like a dad in this one
@Magdelia
@Magdelia Ай бұрын
still waiting on the massive retuning of enhancement
@Gumblethebear
@Gumblethebear Ай бұрын
There is zero way this is a release candidate..... so many specs are broken, untouched, and failing.
@beerfoot
@beerfoot Ай бұрын
You think that when they say release candidate they mean TWW release candidate....don't you?
@Gumblethebear
@Gumblethebear Ай бұрын
@@beerfoot Prepatch should have classes in mostly working order... they aren't
@painfullyavarage4316
@painfullyavarage4316 Ай бұрын
Is this the weekly beta build? Surely not, its not listed as a beta and is on the wrong day. Weird that it's listed as a ptr build instead when the changes it's doing are the exact stuff happening in the weekly beta build
@daniellucas5522
@daniellucas5522 Ай бұрын
Tuning is mostly done on both the PTR and beta servers each week - sometimes one gets hotfixed and not the other, but the other gets those changes in the next weekly build. Weekly tuning on the Prepatch PTR will be done on beta as well.
@Zikkar
@Zikkar Ай бұрын
It isn’t. He titles wrong that is a PTR update not beta at all. But it’s Dratnos so not surprising he is wrong.
@d4mephisto
@d4mephisto Ай бұрын
RIP ARCANE :( sadge In truth tho, most changes are fine. I just dislike the aether attunement change, but I can prob live with it lol
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- Ай бұрын
High voltage nerf is the biggest. It means you cant just missiles barrage missiles barrage like a boss. We're going back to arcane blasting and exploding
@peterschruff3055
@peterschruff3055 Ай бұрын
Nice shirt. :)
@arcane3419
@arcane3419 Ай бұрын
Im not playing frost mage blizzard so stop nerfing the other two specs
@Etzlo1
@Etzlo1 Ай бұрын
this is prepatch, not tww
@wm-wl8ws
@wm-wl8ws Ай бұрын
still no DH changes WOOOOOO
@Kngkat
@Kngkat Ай бұрын
The only changes I see coming are aldrachi reaver nerfs
@UpperMoon95
@UpperMoon95 Ай бұрын
Pls blizzard rework Havoc DH hero talents. Horrible playstyle so far :(
@Mentok211
@Mentok211 Ай бұрын
No love for prot paladin still? Holy single target getting nerfed with no compensation to buff our AoE? Alright..........
@DrChill-eo4dq
@DrChill-eo4dq Ай бұрын
in the end the only fun thing in this game is gonna be exclusively on PTR and then everything that's fun on PTR will be made to be overly complex/clunky on LIVE and people will quit as soon as the new poe league starts
@Joker_wild
@Joker_wild Ай бұрын
Augmentation dodging nerfs again.
@eq2imora
@eq2imora Ай бұрын
Still nothing for priests. Sigh.
@DiegoVelayarce
@DiegoVelayarce Ай бұрын
Is not that small 😢
@Lionelhutz-attorney-at-law
@Lionelhutz-attorney-at-law Ай бұрын
Came here because Max is still playing the weeb game.
@MegaNever2010
@MegaNever2010 Ай бұрын
Is it weird that im kinda happy with the Arcane nerfs, despite having been an Arcane main for 6+ years? I have a friend who wanted to play Arcane purely because it was doing absurdly high damage, and was probably gonna be super meta, but with all the nerfs he's less likely to, which means we wont have 2 arcane mages in all our m+ groups. I just have issues with 2 of the same spec in a small m+ group of friends.
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- Ай бұрын
If you've been an 'arcane main' (seriously who 'mains' a spec instead of a class) for 6+ years you are a turbocasual and your opinions on performance don't matter.
@MegaNever2010
@MegaNever2010 Ай бұрын
@@Daimyo- Ok, oddly rude comment aside, Mage main then, with a heavy focus on Arcane, ive played the other 2 specs a good bit too, but Arcane is where im most comfortable. I also wasnt entirely giving an opinion on performance, outside of being glad it might not be super meta, due to having a friend who's a surpreme meta chaser, and i dont like the idea of having 2 of the same spec (maybe even class) in the same small m+ group of friends i run with. As for being a casual, probably? Its honestly alot more fun than you'd think to not push for the absolute highest of content, im happy in my 2.7k io range.
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- Ай бұрын
@@MegaNever2010Nobody's stopping you from enjoying the game at your level. That said there's layers to all of this. A spec becomes meta if they got over the top damage on top of good amounts of cc and survivability (and a raid buff). If the damage sucks they won't be meta. Therefore the only thing required even for you to stop arcane being a meta spec is the DPS getting nerfed. Blizzard didn't only nerf the DPS, they killed the flow of the rotation and the mobility of the spec and made it clunky instead. That benefits neither you, me, Venruki or professional raiders. It also doesn't benefit the haters of the Mage class. All they want is our DPS to suck, but they don't win anything extra if our rotations feel like crap to play. Maybe this helped to explain myself a bit.
@joshshepherd5734
@joshshepherd5734 Ай бұрын
Demon Hunters are in such a bad spot and just totally ignored! But hey mages get their 8th change of the beta! Smh just get rid of the class at this point
@UltimateGamerCC
@UltimateGamerCC Ай бұрын
talk about overdramatic...
@Daimyo-
@Daimyo- Ай бұрын
Nobody cares of DHs. Just keep clicking that eye beam, you'll do dmg.
@joshshepherd5734
@joshshepherd5734 Ай бұрын
It's obvious ppl who have been ganked by a dh lol go look at any DH creator content and you can learn something!
@leowulfjenkins
@leowulfjenkins Ай бұрын
buff moonkin
@beerfoot
@beerfoot Ай бұрын
Hey folks. Just a friendly reminder that TWW is 44 days and 21 hours away...so blizzard will probably look at your spec before then....
@TommyMcD
@TommyMcD Ай бұрын
really bad changes
@apointtomake1517
@apointtomake1517 Ай бұрын
Yea, don't want to give out the "awesome" vet gear until the season starts... total joke.
@iamme625
@iamme625 Ай бұрын
Still no decent changes for feral. I guess the 3 people that still play this unloved spec are gonna have to spam every video and post like all the shaman complainers did in order to see any changes
@martinmp19
@martinmp19 Ай бұрын
Wdym feral is fun
@Dilllll26
@Dilllll26 Ай бұрын
I’ve consistently seen people saying the feral tree is great, tho the class tree sucks ass
@Zikkar
@Zikkar Ай бұрын
This is a PTT update not the beta one
@svarog8253
@svarog8253 Ай бұрын
rogues ignored once again? nice blizzard
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