It's almost like zero ruined lives with grooming minors

@@obamaobama7999 🍆🚴‍♂️

​@@obamaobama7999 u aint got no point so u bring up past events with decisions that can not be taken back, only be compensated for. You are even worse

​@@obamaobama7999 What are you even talking about? He only talked to one 9 years ago and even then we don't have enough evidence of it

@@obamaobama7999 You have notifications on?

Ngl he makes me entitiled into the video that I cant look away

The way I understand it, the reason he's doing it because he knows what it's like.

​@@nef36 dude was harrassed throughout his entire Smash 4 run all the way up till now. So, yup

Dude told a 14 year old girl that she was his “little secret”. I think somethings wrong there.

@@pearlssbu8749 False accusations have been proven to be false or at least greatly unproven, it was settled in court.

Genshin impact worse but sure bud

​@@luckychicken1563 we don't touch teenagers

*ultimate players

@@novaaze1975 the melee community did Hungrybox dirty, it’s not just ultimate

@@fuscello currently hbox is one of the most loved smashers of all time

Squidwigga Testiballs

I didnt see any explosions

Imagine still bringing that shit up.

@@prawngravy18people are sick

@@lLarceny oh yeah, the people MENTIONING that he was sexting a kid are the sick people.... wtf

@@prawngravy18fr it’s all anyone talk about, same goes to nairo

Smash Reddit is an enormous echo chamber where whenever someone mentions their wrongdoings or the truth, it's completely silenced

@@emperornefarious5273 if you took off the word smash, the statement is still 100% factual

​@@cannondorf Curious isn't it? After all Reddit is the second social media affected by the Tumblr exodus

"IM SEXUAL HARRASSMENT RICK BABYYYYY!!! RICK SANCHEZ FOR THE WIN RICK AND MORTY FOREVER AND EVER YEAH!!" I don't like RIck and Morty anymore, yeeeeahhh... Cant support anyone else who likes it either.

​@@denjeezIf I were to make an exception of seperating the art from the artist, it would be not supporting those who don't forgive, Nintendo is one of them. If someone refuses to forgive others, that someone will remain unforgivable until they decide to forgive

Fr. Zero you look great bud. 💪

He went from zero to a hundred. That should be his new name 😂

His transformation is great.

@@staticshock4239 I just watched the smash cypher again and Jesus Christ he doesn’t even look like the same person.

Fr

This is a false premise fallacy, nintendo wants nothing to do with any of their customers in general. In this particular situation, they don't see smashbros as a competitive game and don't want to be associated with it. It has nothing to do with the community. They acted this way before the community ever existed.

​@@C.J.T49let intentional competitive platform platform fighters take over like Rivals of Aether, Nickelodeon all star brawl, Slap city etc be the peaceful competitive games and Ultimate be the toxic casual one

@Bailujen Sure? Doubt it will happen though. It's not the game that's toxic, it's the people who play it. Those games are just not as polished or deep with their gameplay, so I doubt they will ever get a fraction of the popularity.

Are you talking about Onin or Zero? how you said it is a little bit confusing to me for some reason

​@@Man1fest135 he is onin, and you in zero

@Immanuel Mcnair Both. First, ZeRo praised Onin. Then Onin said he wanted no comments from ZeRo, so ZeRo got hate from Smash for this first action. Now Onin is the one getting hatred from the Smash community, and ZeRo is offering advice to Onin with this video. Which is why I hope Onin reconsiders his view about ZeRo.

Why are you bringing up negativity in the first place he's trying to help him

I agree! I hope at the very least he considers my advice because really very few have gone through that road.

The nicest one was in that Melee tournament where a crowd screamed "LEFFEN SUCKS"

​@@emperornefarious5273 God that would be music to my ears

​@@mrjohnful You can actually look it up

Your pfp looks like hunter x hunter

@@denjeez it’s Little Mac in the terminal montage art style

Oh as if this is the only community that does that. How dunce and oblivious/naive are you really

@@denjeez If you want to name another community who is immature to the degree of sending death threats to the game's creator because they were pissed about the addition of a DLC character, please show me. Until you can do that, sit down, eat some cereal, and shut up DUNCE.

And rebuild it with smart people. Melee was better at being a community because people like Zain (the best Melee player so far), Axe, AMSA, Mang0, Hax etc were skilled yet not turded on. I am kinda disappointed in Hbox now because of his anti Steve and Kazuya agenda and also thinking of banning handicapped Melee players etc. I rather ban GameCube controllers and legalise modern controllers as they're better and balanced

Honestly, I don't think even smash pros are proud they are a part of it. They just are trying to do a job they are good it.

No wonder Nintendo Never supported that disgusting community

They don't deserve a good Nintendo support. Haven't even downloaded Kazuya, don't care to

Doesnt f smash?

You say that like its a good and easy thing?

Its bc its a kids game, and most of the players are teenagers, and teens these days are awful compared to other generations. I tried to get back into the scene at 26, and immediately quit bc of it

​@Curaga Ifrit has nothing to do with being a teen of this generation. The hardcore smash community just attracts the worst kinds of teens possible. The socially awkward self centered rude stinky kinds. Kind of like chess in a way that it attracts people who have major autism. Extreme hyper fixation over one game.

@@curagaifrit6829 I'd say thats only partially the problem. Id say the bigger problem is people getting way too fucking obsessed over the competitive aspects of a game that was always intended to be a fun game with friends. That isn't to say pros and competitive spirit can't be part of the game, but it's gone way too far and its crazy. And no before someone comes whining, that isn't a smash only issue. It applies to CoD, overwatch, pokemon, and any other game under the sun with a competitive multiplayer mode. Their video games guys, its all about the simple fun at the end of the day.

@@darcidious99 Id say its the main problem, but im not gonna clarify it all that much. Too each their own opinion. I respect it

Just ask Panda, Beyond the Summit, Shine, Smash World Tour, all of Leffen's victims...

What about Leafyishere

​@@denjeezwhat's worse about Leafy, he invented the word Cringe

It's sad because it's true.

exactly this. in a subreddit I'm in for a band, there was a whole wave that happened where the lead singer was accused of SA, so a bunch of stories started popping up accusing him of stuff from nameless brand new accounts on the sub. EVERYONE was jumping on board and believing these 0 karma day 1 accounts. well, on one of these posts, the OP went back and edited 1 hour later, saying it was all fiction, and they wrote it to expose everyone in the community willing to ruin someone's life over a baseless story with no evidence. now, I'm not justifying this user, I think that in itself was fucked up. but it really did put a lot of people on blast for "standing up for" and "supporting" a "victim", and expose the community for the total willingness to cancel and ruin someone's life over essentially fanfic. fast forward, all but 1 story was proven false, and the singer is still with the band, writing a new album and touring in just a couple months. but that whole situation last year REALLY reminded me of the smash scene, in the worst way. it's just the toxicity of social media.

This ☝🏻☝🏻

Really love this comment, it sums up a lot of what happens in serious situations like this

@@anananananananananananananana People like you completely forget, that all predators used to be victims at one point. It's human nature, that we project our pain onto others and ourselves, or we solve it. And that last is the only sane way, in my opinion. Healing. Resolving the actual issues on every side, and that's a hard, tricky and sometimes seemingly near impossible way. All people who are affected by trauma, so basically all people - no matter from which background, gender or sexual orientation - just wait to play the power game once they see no other way to show the world, that they have been hurt. I used to be co-dependent, and as such, you can't really articulate what you honestly want. My wife asks me x, I say yes and dont even realize that I go against myself that way. I dont even know, what I want, and I see the same behavior in some, who feel mistreated from people, despite that they clearly agreed both implicitly and explicitly to whatever was done. And they meant it that way at this point, and it's clearly not what they want, when they experience this. That is not an abuse from anyway, it's simply unhealed trauma and that on both sides mostly. Once you give somebody the control to say one word and huge action follows, you can be assured that this will be misused, simply because humans are weak. Almost by design. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when and you can't tell 'when' that is. I used to be 'on the receiving end' of this and I can tell you, that this splits the entire community every single time and soon, you will have no community anymore. You want an easy way, and this is not one of them. This is just pseudo-woke, well meant and distant from reality, sorry 😔

Ahem, Diddy was like top 3 dlc included

@@joselu2785 i don't know any other top smash 4 player who played diddy

@@Ikati-ny8fr in Ultimate only Dabuz keeps playing Min min at top level. Does it make her bad? Nope, she still is top tier, same goes for Smash 4 Diddy, he was so good

What do you mean? Zero played all the broken characters up till Bayo and cloud and even then he had pockets of those characters. He played pre patch sheik and then moved to pre patch diddy. He even admits to it in this video lol

@@joselu2785 it makes her decent just like dabuzz, if he was dominant as zero was then we could have a conversation

It's not just children. And that's the worst part.

Simp

Vocal minority. The casual players that don't go to tournaments etc and they just play once a week with their friends at home, not even online, etc. There are millions more of smash players like that vs the ppl on reddit

@@LilT2o00 yeah also that minority is what shows up to the tourneys without taking showers or ever hearing about deodorant lmao

@@Thewindyfan When I wore deodorant and Versace cologne to a tournament, I got complements from women and other people that walked past me. One guy knew that it was my 1st time coming to a tournament simply because of how fresh and inexperienced at the game I was.

Thats how every video fangame base is like. Name one that isnt toxic. Come gimme one cmere.

Well most are definitely nowhere near this degree.

damn right.

Sometimes that's the only way to do these things. Stay strapped

He kind of needs to. Remember how many people on twitter actually claimed thay at the time both Nairo and Zero deserved to rot in prison for life, or a bullet through their head. Of course those were just Keyboard warriors but as Zero says, people can be deranged and it only takes one freak for it to go to shit

@@nnickplays9713 yup I'm fully 2nd amendment for all.

Well he's a boxer now so it would little mac neutral b 🥊

*cough cough* Leffen *cough cough splutter*

Every fanbase has a bullying problem

Bullying. There goes another potential pro player. Right out the door because of it

My question is how does one toxic nerd get so petty and fed up that they bring a crab into a tournament, just to prepare for the moment and throw it at someone all because they don't like someone's playstyle... There had to have been something else going on with their life that drove them to that point, it just doesn't add up.

@@psychicchicken5263 Obviously they were mentally ill but think about it... if that can get thrown at a competitor what if it was a brick or acid (yes literally, some people throw acid at supermodels scaring them for life)

@@NotTheWheel all the mentally ill people should either disappear or get help. But not mix them with normal humans like us right

Yeah this is truly ridiculous. I don't think competitive Smash is a bad thing tho, local Tournaments always are a lot of fun. We just shouldn't have bigger tournaments because this is where stakes rise up. And if stakes are high, people get weird. Real weird.

Ssy it with me...yknow PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONAL. Wait whos this jackwagon... that is not a PROFESSIONAL.

Agreed

what does that even mean

@@AntitoxinZero He plays a "lame character" he "came out of nowhere and started beating top players". He's not propped up by any top player (like with Maister and how he can get away acting like a total piece of shit) and theres no language barrier (like with acola) so he can actually understand all the harassment they send his way.

I keep reading that name as Omin.

@@Wandermidget To me, I still think it's no excuse. Like if Skyjay started winning more tournaments, then I guarantee you that everyone's gonna find problems with Incin because of his Revenge. It doesn't matter who you pick, they'll always be toxic for no reason.

Its a very sad situation

Who even does that its ridiculous. Probably a bunch of nobodies.

Just checking, but you're not saying that it should just be accepted right?

If I were a pro in that situation, I would propably call them out because they use Twitter and Reddit

Finally a smart comment.

I have NEVER seen anything negative come out of the Pokemon community. Other than POkemon Go

@@denjeez look up king nappy

The Overwatch community would never cancel an org to nonexistence

It's still rude to complain about a character while referring to a match/tournament imo. People who have "lame" playstyles see these complaints a lot and it adds nothing to the conversation but negativity.

@@psychicchicken5263 do you genuinely believe what you just said? you think complaining about characters is rude? to who, sakurai?

@@judekaraki1650 I specified "in the context of a match/tournament". Yes, if you lose to a Steve player, I do think it's rude to be like "I hate Steve he's so annoying". What does that add to the conversation anyway?

@@psychicchicken5263 so your genuine opinion is that in a tournament context people should only be allowed to have positive perceptions and conversations about characters because “negativity doesnt add to the conversation.” i didnt think people like you actually existed.

@@judekaraki1650 I'm not talking about stuff like "oh that move shouldn't kill so early", I mean more along the lines of "that character is lame and doesn't deserve to win". Which is what this entire video is about, by the way. Also "I didn't know people like you existed" is proving ZeRo's point about how Smash players get so toxic over the smallest things.

Its all Twitter's fart. That site needs to go away. I like the sussy art on it thooo....

No. The vtubers deserved all the harassment and more.

@@toshiro-kano No, they did not. Nothing will ever justify the cyber bullying, harassment, doxxing, and complete and utter delusion and insanity of those psycho activists, regardless of their reasons. Love, tolerance, and acceptance, my ass.

@@toshiro-kano Bruh

@@kwonk5298 problem? Vtubers, and those who watch them, are subhuman garbage.

Are you sure you want to unleash the beast tho

@@denjeez lol, good point

Ew

Bc it’s not a game it’s people’s livelihoods.

@@austinroccaro2219 it’s tragic honestly, they can’t be mature enough to understand people work hard in what they do and they don’t do it jus to receive threats

Who even is bullyying him irl tho

​@@austinroccaro2219 people need to choose a new career lol

​@@toshiro-kanoonly 2% of people can get careers Besides the point, I rather stick to Rivals of Aether, Slap City, Nickelodeon all star Brawl and soon Rushdown Revolt when one day comes to PlayStation and or Switch

Just say 1v1 me and destroy them ez.

Min Min my beloved chinese waifu

​@@denjeezthe most unfun character in the game, no hate on the players but I wish she was never added, she is just unfun to play against and boring to play. But ramen waifu is very f***ING THICC

Bro he is a threat in the smash community

It's hard to believe that anybody could call Leffen a friend

Yeah but he's still annoying to face

@@denjeez Doesn’t give anyone a reason to harass anyone else playing the character. Hate the character, not the player.

​@@InvinciDon steve doesnt deservbe the harassment iether

​@donva8334 yes it does. It's just banter m8

@@MagnificentMelkior That’s not what banter is, this is just straight up hate

Yes humans usually do that.

And just play a different platform fighter that has a good community, Rivals of Aether, Slap City, Nickelodeon all star Brawl and Rushdown revolt etc have such good communites