JV5 compilation from "SmashBot vs Pros" at Smash the Record 2017.
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@dustyDustmop3 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to see a melee video after all these years and be blessed with the sound of Slime and Ludwig for commentary
@sleepyavenue55723 жыл бұрын
It still feels like yesterday when Ludwig used to be a melee compilations channel
@McLaReN2123 жыл бұрын
"i found some things to exploit" *looks at title*
@seanplaysmusic7 жыл бұрын
Lmao amazing. Not even the BLUR DASH was enough??
@abcdefzhij6 жыл бұрын
So this bot actually is beatable, or at least hittable, if it works the way he claims it does. He claimed that the bot will attempt to grab you if you are shielding. But, since some characters in this game have OOS options that are faster than 7 frames, if the bot tries to grab you when you are playing one of those characters, and you then do that OOS option after he has started grabbing (in which case he's commited and can't do something else), your OOS hitbox will beat his grab, thus preventing a JV5.
@funnynin51406 жыл бұрын
yea as he said "*[the grab] is technically unsafe*, but it's cool and swaggy so"
@Technicallyaddicted5 жыл бұрын
I dont understand half of what you said, but I believe you.
@corrosivehail20784 жыл бұрын
Remember tho he said he will grab as a mixup so it's not guaranteed
@Moss_Dude3 жыл бұрын
The thing is you would have to either react to the bot grabbing and use your OOS before it's too late (almost humanly impossible,) or get lucky and input it on the same frame the bot grabs. If you do even 1 frame too early the bot won't grab because that option would be beaten.
@sheridan51753 жыл бұрын
It'd have to be frame perfect and you couldn't do it on reaction
@gamerfreak56656 жыл бұрын
I really want to try a TAS with this, if I can figure out the complicated set up.
@theeyenzier81904 жыл бұрын
Lol just use dolphin it has a built in TAS
@kurtisgibson29294 жыл бұрын
how'd it go?
@philorgneopolotin87624 жыл бұрын
gamerfreak5665 yeah fr any update? So many people in all of these videos’ comments sections saying they want to run smashbox against TAS. Was it successful? Is the video anywhere on KZfaq??
@theyhategwa3 жыл бұрын
Still waiting
@15Monkes2 жыл бұрын
Waiting still
@NWDM1H7 жыл бұрын
What would happen if Smashbot played in doubles? Or vs itself or TAS?
@stanzacosmi6 жыл бұрын
It can't.
@moahammad1mohammad6 жыл бұрын
Sunset Shimmer It definitely can.
@Verkern6 жыл бұрын
he made a video, fox will double shine each other resulting in 2 clanks and then they wd away, and dash and do it again for 8 minutes
@brolo72346 жыл бұрын
TAS opens up the Avenue for winning.
@streled53613 жыл бұрын
Now, we've found it's weakness Playing on other stage than Final Destination
@ElectricFlash6 жыл бұрын
*it makes your game faster if you press alt f4*
@johnnyriley60944 жыл бұрын
20XX is coming, and the only move that will ever be used in Melee tourneys is fox's shine.
@protocetid Жыл бұрын
Smashbot lands a shine once Smashbot: Omae wa mou SHINEdeiru. player: Nani??
@LordVerdo6 жыл бұрын
Put the bot against M2k, Armada, Hbox, Mango, and Leffen.
@Xalashaska3 жыл бұрын
they’d get bodied just the same
@sheridan51753 жыл бұрын
@@Xalashaska They'd probably take a couple of stocks
@pureawesomness350933 жыл бұрын
I have more faith in m2k than anyone else against smash bot lmao
@Xalashaska3 жыл бұрын
@@pureawesomness35093 why? because he cheeses 1000 unranked players a day?
@dak-o-lanturn3 жыл бұрын
@@Xalashaska because hes the real bot
@dreamhunter50113 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm watching terminal montage
@BillytheEntertainer3 жыл бұрын
i did not expect to hear Ludwig and Slime when i started this video lol
@aitan65933 жыл бұрын
For anyone who didn’t know, Slime was a melee organizer and Lud was just “his friend”. Hence the phrase, “Slime’s friend”.
@BillytheEntertainer3 жыл бұрын
@@aitan6593 that's hilarious in retrospect given Ludwig's blow up in popularity lol
@dark0ssx6 жыл бұрын
Have they done this with other characters? Id like to see what a perfect bot of low tiers looks like
@shayboual18923 жыл бұрын
The reason why fox bot can be so good is because fox simply just has options which are simply not punishable like shine. Low tiers wouldn't really be able to be programmed in this way since they would have counterplay and since the bot is predictable they wouldn't be that good. Unless they were training with learning
@dark0ssx3 жыл бұрын
@@shayboual1892 I just mean were its programmed to played as best as it can, through machine learning
@shayboual18923 жыл бұрын
@@dark0ssx ah then yes I agree. I'm surprised no one has programmed a bot like that yet
@equinox38613 жыл бұрын
@@shayboual1892 A lot of moves aren't punishable if a computer is playing lol and even shine would be punishable if a computer was on the receiving end of it.
@DrewPicklesTheDark6 жыл бұрын
How does it do in cruel melee?
@xtreqw56 жыл бұрын
"what about randy forwards?" at 0:58 had me dying
@jorrellds65203 жыл бұрын
I think I would fight that game cube if it did me this dirty.
@nathanprindler7 жыл бұрын
Still dying to see Smashbot vs TAS. Also 2 or more Smashbots fighting each other. Please?
@stanzacosmi6 жыл бұрын
It can't. It can only play against marth.
@Jcend6 жыл бұрын
Sunset Shimmer Why do you say that?
@stanzacosmi6 жыл бұрын
Smashbots fighting smashbots is impossible. It only works on player 2 and assumes you're player 1, and it against tas would be smashbot against a perfect player.
@stanzacosmi6 жыл бұрын
And for the marth comment characters with projectiles would be impossible to get the read on projectiles.
@balthazarmoimeaux37156 жыл бұрын
in fact it can play against math/fox/falco/samus (for now) he knows those match up but it has fram data of every char, the only thing that counters him is counterpick stages, it can only fight on sd) Go watch the full video of smashbot vs pro, it's in vgbootcamps vod. so a tas could be made against tasbot.
@mito._3 жыл бұрын
Smashbot v Pro? - Ok, sounds fine. Smashbot on Fox? - Are you high?
@aaronrafferty93626 жыл бұрын
vs the pros, and also blur
@theintenseguy46716 жыл бұрын
Imagine that thing as Pichu.
@ChronoSquare3 жыл бұрын
would need to be completely rewritten, looks like it's purely written for Fox
@moahammad1mohammad6 жыл бұрын
Ultra instinct goku vs jiren
@richcast663 жыл бұрын
It never leaves the ground. Is this the future?
@TheKidPyro3 жыл бұрын
came for an interesting video, surprised to hear ludwig and slime :^)
@danhan673 жыл бұрын
o7
@MadGameBoy3 жыл бұрын
Everyone keeps saying this bot vs other pros, or other bot programs But why not this bot vs multiple pros at once?
@LT13 жыл бұрын
Any competent players would win a 2v1.
@noivern13806 жыл бұрын
How would a bot made to work on a character without a lagless move do? Like on Cpt. Falcon or peach or sheik or something
@luckylucas85963 жыл бұрын
And Leffen says Marth is favored.
@interhistoria56323 жыл бұрын
Virgin Amiibo vs Chad Smashbot
@Gullshunter6 жыл бұрын
Hi. First of all, i would like to say thank you for brining AI to Smash. i have one concern tho, and i'm sure you've heard it many time: there should be a human-like reaction time implemented in a bot (or a new/different version of it, that would start to learn all over again with the reaction time). Main issue is, when we think to AI in games, reaction time isnt an issue that has been talked a lot about. In Chess and in Go, the game is turn by turn. Therefore one can take as much time as he needs to (i know it's within 2 hours limit, but it is still long enough) in order to play. Then the bot can play, as fast or as slow as he wants to. The fact is that the game is not reaction-time based (of course there is a 2hours limit) but it is turn by turn based, which makes reaction time almost irrelevant. In the game of smash. And almost every video games that isnt turn-by-turn based, reaction time IS PART OF THE GAME. If you take it off, it is not the same game at all. The strategy of the game, the meta game, how you move, when you decide to attack, etc. every timing is based on your reaction time. Reaction time IS PART OF THE GAME. This is why reaction time should be implemented in order to make a really interesting bot that we can learn from if it is even possible with average computational power, to make an AI that can beat the pros. (Because even if it is cool to watch a frame-perfect infinite waveshine, we all know it is not realistic and it gets boring to watch/play against after a while) A reaction time of about 0.25-0.3sec should be implemented. Even this is quite fast since it will have almost instant option selection and action (so i think going to 0.3sec should be the best). (Note that the reaction time only apply in reaction to your opponent action, not to yours (for exemple, if ou are inputing an input sequence, it could be frame perfect between each of those input, since you already knew you were going to input those)) Hope you've read this, and hope to see a bot like that soon! (also with videos showing his evolution would be crazy interesting)
@helengriffin3586 жыл бұрын
Gullshunter the bot is designed to be impossible to beat
@NonJohns6 жыл бұрын
The point is to show that melee is an easy game
@spectrillium6 жыл бұрын
Adding a reaction time completly defeats the purpose of the bot. The point of this bot existing is to show what near perfect melee could look like.
@pcrsweetness6 жыл бұрын
also, this bot is not a learning algorithm
@hocuspocus52566 жыл бұрын
pcrsweetness Exactly. This guy put a few months into designing smashbot. A learning algorithm is outside the scope of his skills and would take a team of people to implement. When AI tools become more available and computer processing becomes cheaper, we can consider building a learning smashbot with human reaction time. Right now anybody with those skills to create that is going to be using them on a real job making good money. We will have to wait some years before seeing a smashbot that learns and performs akin to OpenAI DotA project or what deepmind is doing with StarCraft. Both those projects are composed of entire teams of people who are more or less geniuses when it comes to AI systems. That's what it takes to create an AI a step up from this, one that could beat top players with human reaction time constraints factored in. It's an entirely different order of magnitude in difficulty to create what OP is proposing.
@SheikAshii3 жыл бұрын
This last man is the biggest streamer now...huh
@rektyrektingson46683 жыл бұрын
Ludwig. Ikr he's come do far
@LK-eg5br3 жыл бұрын
Ludwig and slime here
@JadenSmithEyes Жыл бұрын
And I'm still here grinding Blur Dashes
@kurtisgibson29294 жыл бұрын
please make it play other characters as well i'd love to see pros v.s bowser true swag
@DrewPicklesTheDark6 жыл бұрын
Level 99 CPU
@ianoshaughnessy64103 жыл бұрын
Is that Ludwig and slime?
@BaDMrFr0zty6 жыл бұрын
let smashbot play campaigne mode
@JSRFModCentral6 жыл бұрын
Neonicon smash bot would loose on stage 1 because it’s only programmed to play on FD.
@rickywalters77173 жыл бұрын
@@JSRFModCentral What about VS Master/Crazy Hand then?
@JSRFModCentral3 жыл бұрын
@@rickywalters7717 still loose
@worldrenownedpsycho49416 жыл бұрын
*_justmarthystuff_* chaingrabbing them to death on FD
@Dagu4273 жыл бұрын
young lud AWOOGA 👀
@wapit33463 жыл бұрын
Watching this bot on the menu screens is giving me arthritis.
@ubberJakerz3 жыл бұрын
Ludwig throwing for content, as usual.
@daved11133 жыл бұрын
Can we see smashbot vs giga bowser?
@jtrtx5 ай бұрын
look its cody schwab
@1020ojom3 жыл бұрын
Ludwig and slime!!
@klojoify3 жыл бұрын
I would've liked seeing a 3 v 1 against the bot with the pros
@KaroxNightshade3 жыл бұрын
Slime and Lud? This feels... Weird.
@BeeBN4 жыл бұрын
Pick puff and lwdgecamp timeout
@Technicallyaddicted5 жыл бұрын
4 stock bodied in less than a minute at 0%. Humanity is fuckin doomed.
@MrInsanityCalls3 жыл бұрын
So like.........are they all just gonna play Marth?
@goldsage18455 жыл бұрын
Are we really gonna count blur as a pro
@fuulish29223 жыл бұрын
What a nice name i wonder what happens when i press the buttons
probly only works against marth + other waveshineable characters
@endrr526 жыл бұрын
part 2 pls
@kidzero55805 жыл бұрын
I dont know irf it would matter, but I dont know why they didnt get any really good pro to play it but all well, or is this just showing the jv5s and there were other sets that went better as well?
@steelwall43963 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter. The bot has an instant reaction time and perfect frame data. If you throw out an attack it will simply power shield of spot dodge into shine The only way to hit it would be to frame trap it, which isn't possible in neutral against a shine only Fox. It doesn't matter who fights it, they literally can't hit it The only thing they can do is pick Fox/Falco and clang shines best case scenario
@Isa.2506 жыл бұрын
You should make a video with smashbot vs smashbot.
@ShanaSama266 жыл бұрын
He did.
@halbarroyzanty29313 жыл бұрын
20XX has taken form
@audiocalls28222 жыл бұрын
bots need to be limited by latency and remote control ping.
@starvingdeveloper29877 жыл бұрын
Unreal
@Voltronman2 жыл бұрын
Surprised nobody tried countering
@Voltronman2 жыл бұрын
@@gregoryford2532 timestamp?
@BenjerminGaye6 жыл бұрын
I bet M2k would still win. He's is the robot afterall.
@sheridan51753 жыл бұрын
He'd take a stock and plank
@petelee24773 жыл бұрын
5:06 for those of you on laptops you might need to hold the fn as well. Your welcome
@MrCoolerMan12 жыл бұрын
It’s so frustrating to watch XD
@kevingarcia49212 жыл бұрын
Play puff and rest you win
@busterblock62955 жыл бұрын
this cpu must be put at 127369420
@Ringoh_3 жыл бұрын
Shoulda pivot downtilt
@ohitsrusher8423 жыл бұрын
Could it beat brawl meta knight?
@iamwhoimnotimnotwhoiam44313 жыл бұрын
People are laughing at this But this is the code the terminators of the future will be running.
@lambchu64593 жыл бұрын
I dont see why iBDW cant do this.
@josephagnetti89216 жыл бұрын
Blur plays melee?
@joescofield61593 жыл бұрын
So the bot is a can of spam someone beats it and breaks the bot because of jigglypuff
@swank85083 жыл бұрын
Personally i would have rather seen a smashbot with 15 frame reaction time implemented, because it seems kind of boring to have a bot that just reacts frame 1 to everything
@adwardosa55752 жыл бұрын
I wanna see two bots fight
@brianhuynh42113 жыл бұрын
is that slime?
@falcolombardi39043 жыл бұрын
SFAT was right all along, fox wins on FD vs marth
@LionelGabo4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaha good bot, idk who program it but it is good against marth
@imreadydoctor3 жыл бұрын
Hungrybox + Zain vs 1 bot.
@DreadedGhoul5757 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@artemis-kinkyboikirby55393 жыл бұрын
It's not that hard to beat Marth on FD cidy
@ethanv19926 жыл бұрын
How Do I Get SmashBot?
@MM-qe7nk6 жыл бұрын
All it did was spam shine
@ChillavaKirby6 жыл бұрын
MM 352 Well yeah. It's shine.
@MM-qe7nk6 жыл бұрын
Chillava there’s other things it could’ve done
@SB27494 жыл бұрын
That's the best thing it could do.
@JavierRodriguez-df6xu3 жыл бұрын
Pro Smash players just make me grit my teeth😬😬
@spicymeatballs2thespicening3 жыл бұрын
Why
@LT13 жыл бұрын
Nobody in this video is a pro but go off
@ChillavaKirby6 жыл бұрын
Who are these "pros"? And why the heck do most of them not even seem to acknowledge what they're doing? You're fighting a god AI. Have some fun. It's not serious. You're not supposed to win.
@pwnography5776 жыл бұрын
Chillava Lmao they're top level players and well known players in the community, and they seem like they are having a lot of fun. Of course they want to see if they can beat or exploit it, they're basically helpless against this bot and they know it, I saw a lot of silly fun stuff in the video. I don't know what you expected from this video, but I saw a lot of fun and personality in this video.
@garretrodriguez4 жыл бұрын
@@pwnography577 Not really, the game froze every time the players were winning, so this bot is beatable when not freezing 24/7 the full 2 hour clip shows how vulnerable the bot really is.