SMT:Vengeance Demi-Fiend Hard Mode in 2 Turns No Drain/Repel Phys Adversity or Demon Levels Required

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That Great Big Hill

That Great Big Hill

8 күн бұрын

The Heavenly Ikuyumi animation is so long...
I know Nuwa's base level is 80, not 82 but this can be done exactly the same without those 2 levels.
I felt bad for posting such a rubbish Demi-Fiend clear a few days ago, especially since it used a very boring strategy that was very similar to the quick Demi-Fiend fight in base V. My new strategy was inspired by my Satan clear and is something that could only be done in Vengeance: the innate skills of the 7 demons used are all essential to the clear and the move and charge status I use are new to Vengeance.
Let's go over the team composition:
Nahobino (219 Magic)
His role is to build Magatsuhi bar and delete Demi-Fiend's health bar.
Skills:
Heavenly Ikuyumi - Contender for the best skill in the game, very good damage and doesn't require special set up since you always want max debuffs anyway.
Evergreen Dance
Both almighty pleromas
Both glee skills to increase crit rate
Nahobeeho
His only purpose is his innate skill which decreases the cost of using Omnipotent Succession. The amount of bar saved by this skill can vary and sometimes it doesn't save enough to let the bar fill up on turn 2, If the red bar is around the M on Magatsuhi then you have enough.
Yoshitsune
He also only exists for his innate skill to give an extra turn but we also need to kit him out with some skills from essences to survive, these are: null phys, enduring soul and endure
Baal
Needed for access to the racial skill Charge as well as his innate to generate extra press turns when he's debuffed. He has null phys (necessary) as well as
life spring which I don't think is necessary.
Nuwa
The star of the clear in my view. The reason I use her is because of her innate skill which generates an extra press turn whenever she resists or nulls two or more attacks on the enemy turn (it has to be resist or null and not repel or drain to activate). She is quite capable of handling the Demi-Fiend's attacks with both endure skills and great life spring, she also needs resist phys for her innate to activate. Mastema would be more reliable than Nuwa here but he's NG+ exclusive.
Kresnik
His innate skill is debilitate x4 whenever an ally dies, it's very good.
Kudlak
His innate is luster candy x4 whenever he dies, it synergises very well with his archenemy's skill which is strange but I won't complain. He needs a physical skill to be able to deal enough damage to himself and safeguard so I don't lose ally turns when the attack gets reflected.
Sandalphon
His existence allows me to crit with Heavenly Ikuyumi. As strong as MC is, he needs to average 2500 damage per hit for this clear to work and he can't do that without crits.
A lot of demons have null phys, to get this skill fuse Ongyo-Ki into an element demon and give it null phys, register that element into the compendium and then use it as an ingredient.
There is an annoying amount of randomness in this fight. I've already mentioned how the amount of Magatsuhi preserved by Nahobeeho and the skilful conversion miracle is random but Demi-Fiend's allies also move at random. Cu Cullain can use megidolaon (bad), a fatal sword on Nuwa (ok) or debilitate (very good). Girimekhala can also use megidolaon or debilitate and can also use toxic spray. As long as either of them use debilitate or if Girimekhala uses toxic spray on Baal then the clear will work.
It doesn't matter what Pixie does except she can't use zanbarion on Nuwa if Cu Cullain didn't attack Nuwa and Girimekhala didn't debut Baal, their innates don't activate otherwise.
What happens on the next player turn is pretty self-explanatory though I will say that an ikuyumi crit will only generate an extra press turn if it is the first of the group of 4, this can be helpful if you failed to activate Nuwa or Baals innate skills.

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@tmlss5054
@tmlss5054 Күн бұрын
"e" - nahobino 2024
@jerry3115
@jerry3115 2 күн бұрын
There are so many cool over the top strats with the new unique passives in this game, i love it
@R4fa9S
@R4fa9S 3 күн бұрын
Bro became the boss 💀
@kiritomato187
@kiritomato187 4 күн бұрын
Damn, that's impressive
@michaelmills2840
@michaelmills2840 2 күн бұрын
Just used this strat to beat him, this was really helpful. He's been tormenting me for the passed few days, now I can jump Lucifer.
@joshualawrence4301
@joshualawrence4301 Күн бұрын
You are a genius. This is so sick
@jwwilliams5407
@jwwilliams5407 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely nice
@todd3143
@todd3143 Күн бұрын
you’re demi-fiend now
@jonathansoelle3825
@jonathansoelle3825 3 күн бұрын
Hey for what it's worth i also liked the other deme fiend strat but this is great too
@raulrojas9253
@raulrojas9253 2 күн бұрын
OMG thanks, finally beat Demi fiend for the first time on hard mode. Still feels kind of bad that I could not beat Masakado or demi fiend on my own unlike with Shiva. It is what it is.
@louislam369
@louislam369 2 күн бұрын
Nice job!
@klaus.sfc01official30
@klaus.sfc01official30 3 күн бұрын
How the hell did you get 8 turns!?
@johnny8363
@johnny8363 3 күн бұрын
I can help you with this Yoshitsune passive: Whenever an ally takes an action that consumes one or more press turns, you gain 1 extra press turn on the next turn. Baal passive: whenever the user is the target of a debuff, they gain a press turn. Nuwa passive: when an attack is drained/repeled, gain 1 press turn on the next turn. Some things may not be accurately described but basically this is how he gets extra press turns
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 3 күн бұрын
@@johnny8363 For the Nuwa passive it's actually if an attack is resisted or nulled twice that she gives an extra press turn. It doesn't work with repels/drains which actually hurts reliability in this clear as Pixie can target her with zanbarion and that would ruin the strategy.
@johnny8363
@johnny8363 3 күн бұрын
@@GreatBigHill Ah thanks for the correction, I wrote the comment based on my memory so I imagined this type of error could occur
@JohnYakooza
@JohnYakooza 3 күн бұрын
How do you guarantee the enemy will use debuff on only Baal to get the extra turn? Also I thought Demi Fiend resist Almighty too, how is Nahobino doing regular damage
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 3 күн бұрын
I can't guarantee that, even using taunt wouldn't help. I mention this in the description but the enemy turn is not as reliable as I would like. What needs to happen is that either Cu or the elephant use debilitate or the elephant targets Baal with toxic spray for the strategy to work, that happened about 50% of the time while testing. Only Mitamas resist almighty in V, I do a lot of damage because I have over 200 magic and Ikuyumi is a really strong move.
@Krezzing
@Krezzing Күн бұрын
How did u manage to maintain Succession When i use it the effect is only used once
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill Күн бұрын
The Deity Magatsuhi skill makes it so charge don't expire.
@rift3487
@rift3487 3 күн бұрын
Will this work for murakumo as well?
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 3 күн бұрын
Ikuyumi with max debuffs does more damage than murakumo so you'd have to get lucky with crits.
@TheDittoChannel
@TheDittoChannel 2 күн бұрын
@@GreatBigHill I think you'd do more damage with Murakumo in general assuming you don't just miss every crit (use murderous glee). You wouldn't need Sandalphon on the field hogging press turns, so you could get 12 more Murakumo off than in the video. Of course, both work great regardless
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 2 күн бұрын
@@TheDittoChannel Sandalphon isn't taking up any extra turns since I'm not able to generate extra press turns with MC.
@TheDittoChannel
@TheDittoChannel 16 сағат бұрын
@@GreatBigHill True, though Murakumo critting would be able to generate them
@ethanjordan23
@ethanjordan23 3 күн бұрын
I don't get it how did you maintain your Omnipotent Succession? Was it sandalphon's passive?
@fairtoki1685
@fairtoki1685 3 күн бұрын
He use Omagatoki: Charge, it keep all charge types effect for whole turn. Sandalphon is use for passive enable all almighty damage to crit.
@sanctusaura4874
@sanctusaura4874 3 күн бұрын
Omagatoki charge. Succesion is counted as charge skill.
@UnifiedGod777
@UnifiedGod777 3 күн бұрын
As long as you don’t use an attack skill after using a turn to pop it, it will remain until you attack. This means you can pop it turn one and then wait until the next turn you have critical, pop critical and have Nahobino use a skill (Ikyumi in this case) 4 times which will always crit.
@LuisRuiz-jq5er
@LuisRuiz-jq5er 2 күн бұрын
So just to be sure, you can do this strat and also have concentrate or charge? Cause that shit would be broke af
@UnifiedGod777
@UnifiedGod777 2 күн бұрын
@@LuisRuiz-jq5er No, OS overwrites charge effects (Impaler's Animus, Charge, concentrate, donum gladi/magici and critical aura) but will stack with other Magatsuhi skills (adversity, critical, savage, etc) and it will not overwrite luminescent mirage.
@Gamedres95
@Gamedres95 3 күн бұрын
Hey, just curious, did you think about using Omnipotent Succesion + Omagatoki Charge yourself? Beacuse there was a recent post on the megaten subreddit that talked about how OP of a strat that was, while also talking about how it could be better if you use Bael and Yoshitsune's innate skills
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 3 күн бұрын
I don't use Reddit. I came up with charge+succession idea for Satan after seeing how Alilat could preserve the succession status with her innate skill and I had been using charge a lot with figment slashers against bosses like Shiva, Tiamat and Samael. I then decided to redo my Demi-Fiend clear with that strategy as my previous version was pretty lame.
@loto7197
@loto7197 3 күн бұрын
Did u read it on Reddit because i read it on reddit 🤓 type beat
@Gamedres95
@Gamedres95 3 күн бұрын
Dang I got ratio'd, fair tbh I do sound like a 🤓
@bloomingdaemon
@bloomingdaemon 3 күн бұрын
​@@Gamedres95No worries, happens to the best of us
@michaelmills2840
@michaelmills2840 2 күн бұрын
You should also note that you gave Kudlak safeguard
@michaelmills2840
@michaelmills2840 2 күн бұрын
And Yoshitsune with null dark
@Arshenborne
@Arshenborne 2 күн бұрын
If you use Figment Slash instead of that with Animus it's much Faster
@michaelmills2840
@michaelmills2840 2 күн бұрын
Is there a miracle you need so my press turns don't go away when hit Grimakala?
@Shermm
@Shermm 2 күн бұрын
Safeguard passive skill
@michaelmills2840
@michaelmills2840 2 күн бұрын
@@Shermm I got it earlier, thanks tho
@jamesbryant2706
@jamesbryant2706 4 сағат бұрын
so is nuwa new game plus or do you just not get them in path of vengeance?
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 4 сағат бұрын
You can get Nuwa in the Vengeance route by talking to a Bethel researcher after you meet Yakumo in Taito and then watching some cutscenes with him at the school and the temple. She is not locked to NG+ in the Vengeance route.
@sephaz1248
@sephaz1248 3 күн бұрын
Question Ikuyumi or Murakumo which one better?
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 3 күн бұрын
Ikuyumi. I have another video where I use Murakumo on DF and a crit with critical zealot does around 4k per hit. That might seem better than the 2.4k I do with Ikuyumi but you're basically forced to use critical aura to get that kind of damage with Murakumo meaning you can't use it with donum magici or succession. The requirement of getting enemies to max debuffs isn't an issue since you want to be doing that anyway. If you want a strength build then figment slash is a lot better than Murakumo.
@johnny8363
@johnny8363 3 күн бұрын
It depends, if you rely on critical aura then you can't use other buffs, Ikuyumi is better, however if you can maximize your critical chance effectively without relying on critical aura then Murakumo is better
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 3 күн бұрын
@@johnny8363 Even with both glees which is a significant investment your crit rate still isn't high enough to be reliable from what I've seen. Are there other ways to increase crit besides Glasya-Labolas?
@dave9515
@dave9515 3 күн бұрын
@@GreatBigHill Not really also people have datamined the crit formula and lets say you need to have up to 3-4 times the enemy luck for consistent crits and the glees are never good. Also agility is pretty worthless as a stat too outside of increasing that and luck to lower ailment susceptibility and enemy crit chance.
@KoriKitsune
@KoriKitsune 2 күн бұрын
@@GreatBigHill Lucifer passive also increases crit rate apparently for the entire team, but... so far lucifer passive appears to be bugged or works in weird ways / translation error from japanese.
@davidtowers1863
@davidtowers1863 3 күн бұрын
What kind of stats you rocking though
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 3 күн бұрын
Builds are in the description. MC has 219 magic and none of his other stats matter
@davidtowers1863
@davidtowers1863 3 күн бұрын
@GreatBigHill Thanks, pulled it off a slightly different way but this guide was top notch, I had 218 magic, funny enough
@highwizard6764
@highwizard6764 2 күн бұрын
How did you get Japanese voice?
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 2 күн бұрын
You can select it from the options menu. If you play on Switch then you might have to download the Japanese voices as a free DLC.
@highwizard6764
@highwizard6764 Күн бұрын
@@GreatBigHill ahhh, i play on PS5 that's why I don't have
@GreatBigHill
@GreatBigHill 17 сағат бұрын
@@highwizard6764 I play on PS5 too, the Japanese voices option might only be accessible if you go into the menu from the title screen. They're included in the PS5 version so you don't have to download anything extra
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