Snow Foams Do They Work? Road Rage V Powermaxed TFR comparison

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@forensicunplugged4295 4 жыл бұрын

not thats its too critical but I blasted the wrong side first again I think??

@markkerr3761 4 жыл бұрын

You did 🤣🤣 to be fair though Jon, given the weather, any criticism would be uncalled for!! As both were dwelling for 10 mins +, I can't see what difference it would have made... If they need more than 10 minutes then they aren't worth buying!

@noeking9095 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was gonna say that’s not like you to make one side have more advantage than the other , you had to rinse the bottle out too which add extra dwell time

@limitless7773 4 жыл бұрын

Answers the questions before I have to even ask! Another great video

@DiiZeh_ 4 жыл бұрын

Cracking video and comparison, Jon! Pressure sprayers are definitely more effective at cleaning when it comes to these types of products. Would be great to see another one but with a pressure sprayer!👍🏻

@richardwesson9651 4 жыл бұрын

Cracking video as always mate, really good quick comparison! I know you have a tonne more experience than me, but I believe that normal pump sprayers work better than the foamers for these types of products! Yes I know you get the dwell times as an advantage but for some reason I just find you get much better results with a sprayer as opposed to a foamer! Could be an interesting video, foamer vs sprayer? I know the majority may call it pointless but you never know, could be a noticeable difference.

@forensicunplugged4295 4 жыл бұрын

i agree Rich, pump sprayer just better.

@ethompson5061 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Jon, do you have a link to the gun extension your using there?

@peemick 4 жыл бұрын

interesting, 1st look. I'm liking the preview type feel to these vids Jon. Just a morsel to whet the appetite. :) I hope we find something thats as good, if not better than the mighty BH AF :)

@markkerr3761 4 жыл бұрын

It'd need to be bloody good and/or just as ridiculously cheap to persuade me to change! 😂

@Rk6505 4 жыл бұрын

Hi John, I don’t know if it makes a difference but the videos I’ve seen on Road Rage they use a pump sprayer and not a foamer and they’ve had great results

@kyleturner4682 4 жыл бұрын

Been using the new road rage by HDD for a while, daily. Typically I apply via pump spray 25:1 and apply to the lower parts of the car and then cover the entire car with Autofoam directly after and allow to dwell. I find this to be a hard hitting combo

@declanflaherty8958 4 жыл бұрын

Jon with that hand action behind the car, I wonder what the neighbours think :) :)

@patrickvennard838 4 жыл бұрын

I have put HDD in my lance at the recommended concentration it was ok, it was a lot better in the sprayer. County Detailing sent me some AG Spritzer sample that I thought did well in my lance. However, both my cars are well protected with LSP and its hard to recreate the same traffic film every time I wash my cars.

@highdefinitiondetail5298 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always, The new formulation of Road Rage isn't a high caustic TFR this new version is more eco friendly with green solvents hence the name :) aimed at maximum cleaning power whiles still being economical, Biogradable and very effective at the same time and the price point is another strong viewing :)

@jonnybravo3055 2 жыл бұрын

The HDD road rage has been excellent throughout the winter months for me. Those times I've need just a bit more cleaning power than snowfoam.

@SarcastSempervirens 4 жыл бұрын

Looking at this I was wondering - how close do you usually come to the paint with the nozzle? What would be the ideal dirty-cleaning distance, what would be the safe distance, ineffective distance? Yes, it depends on the specs, but maybe there's some overall recommended number?

@jamiclemente3626 4 жыл бұрын

Always a great video John but you definitely need to get a Marolex Foamer. WAY LESS pumping

@paulevans9791 4 жыл бұрын

what Chemicals do you use for mould on your driveway 😀

@philgoodson2803 4 жыл бұрын

One thing to bare in mind is that the camber of the road will cause the near side of the car to have more dirt as that is the side it will drain to. A small point but worth noting I think.

@detailingyoda1652 4 жыл бұрын

Both definitely work, but I think the degree depends on the chemistry of the dirt buildup. Tfr and snowfoam both used to be alkaline so good for general road debris / salt.. however these days who knows.. citrus degreaser isn't citrus (limoneic acid) any more but generally just a slightly alkaline prewash...

@sandyshine6690 2 жыл бұрын

Neighbours be like." John's washing his car again and it's raining 🙄lol love the vids mate 👍😎

@dillingerdan 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting, but I question how they will do in a snow loam lance. I think the “applicator” matters here as those pump sprayers are much more concentrated than a snow foam lance would be. I watched detailing worlds snow foam vs APC video and thought that if he’d put the apc in the snow foam lance he’d get similar results, as the lance should “dilute” as its applied. I know this is a product comparison, but I think this warrants a test on how its applied to the vehicle; trigger sprayed vs pump sprayed vs pump foamed vs snow lanced! Just a thought.

@gingerphil 4 жыл бұрын

I use the Power Maxed tfr almost weekly and it removes way more dirt on my car than in your video. To be honest I think your mix was a bit weak, I dilute at 1:10 and drench the car with it, I'll easily use over a litre. At 14 quid for 5 litres it's great value. 👍

@forensicunplugged4295 4 жыл бұрын

it just allows me to compare the 2 at the same ratio Phil I cant go lower than 1:20 with RR according to insutrctions.

@3091mg 4 жыл бұрын

any issues with lsp or staining trims?

@gingerphil 4 жыл бұрын

@@3091mg Not for me. Car is still shiny as hell afterwards. I have quite a few black pieces of trim and no staining whatsoever. Like I said above with a stronger dilution rate Power Maxed tfr is bloody good stuff. I've done loads of contactless washes using it and then using the blower to dry. 😎

@markkerr3761 4 жыл бұрын

Phil, do you mean you use a litre of this product per wash or a litre of mixture, including the water?!?!

@LSD04 4 жыл бұрын

Sparko 888 he dilutes 1/10

@geoffbullock8280 4 жыл бұрын

First of all, have you got any spare toilet rolls, secondly keep up the good work John, really enjoy these comparison tests! Have you tried spraying just a normal shampoo against a TFR?

@forensicunplugged4295 4 жыл бұрын

TFR is more powerfull most car shampoos dont have much cut really Geoff

@SuperJapierdole 4 жыл бұрын

what do you think TFR against good foam, = bilthamber? On a waxed and maintained car. I always consider tfr or high caustic prewash only for the ratmobiles. My own. Waxed and 2-bucket-ed often even during winter I find BH all I need. For the summer actually I looked for less power. You might want to check sonax neutral foam.

@billkhan6333 4 жыл бұрын

Can u do a review on autoglym tfr please i dont think anyone has made a video onit but have heard it is supposed to be good

@AHumbleStreamer 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like you'd be far better off with a garden type sprayer instead of the foam sprayer. I apply a mega-strong TFR to my wheelarches using a 5 litre pump sprayer with a wand and it works a treat, because the liquid can soak into dirt much better than foam in my opinion. You haven't got to pump anywhere near as much either in my experience.

@taichitoby2 4 жыл бұрын

Jon, how did you get the Road Rage so foamy? When used it in my IK sprayer it was much less foamy. Thanks

@forensicunplugged4295 4 жыл бұрын

dunno mate thats 1:25 and grey nozzle tats how it came out.

@taichitoby2 4 жыл бұрын

@@forensicunplugged4295 Thanks for the reply. I will have another go. I'm using the grey nozzle too. I will be a bit more 'forensic' when measuring my dilution ratios. :)

@jdisdetermined 3 жыл бұрын

Use it with distilled water! 👍✌

@yeshuascutter3170 Жыл бұрын

I use autoglanz tfr for very filthy cars, or cars I'm washing for the first time cos it has excellent dilution ratios ( 50 ml in 3 litres of water ). Other than that i use Bilt Hamber surfex hd at 5% by volume. The surfex is as good at cutting but will not harm chrome etc. With the tfr you need to be careful on chrome cos it will stain if left to even partially dry.

@sherkhan9188 3 жыл бұрын

Ive ordered the tfr POWER MAXED but few people say its dangerous im in 2 minds . Could u plz explain ?

@forensicunplugged4295 3 жыл бұрын

TFR typically contain some caustic components like phosphates and hydroxides. So in some instances you need to be carefully with them.. on and off rapidly dont let dry etc.. sometimes they can stain plastic effect chrome trim around the windows.. sometimes they can turn bare metal brake calipers white with oxide and promote rusting.. the power maxed one is safer than most. but I would suggest you use bilt Hamber touchless as a prewash. dont worry about foaming levels just trust the chemical tech its non caustic and it melts dirt through clever chemistry, its also cheap.

@ImranAli-rp4kd 2 жыл бұрын

Jon any idea if the power maxed one is caustic? I seen a review and they said they use it 10:1 and it blows auto foam away

@forensicunplugged4295 2 жыл бұрын

at 10% PIR it probably should Imran.

@ImranAli-rp4kd 2 жыл бұрын

@@forensicunplugged4295 Yh it was in a pump sprayer so it was 10% pir , anyway I still can’t find any info if it’s caustic or not ?

@kwl189 Ай бұрын

Power Maxed TFR is caustic. Wish I never bought it tbh. Stained trims and faded alloys. Not worth saving the money for tbh.

@mikeparker9812 4 жыл бұрын

Im a mobile valeter of 11 years and this has to be one of the wettest winters I can remember. It's doing my head in. Still at least it's not freezing cold this year.

@forensicunplugged4295 4 жыл бұрын

its been really shit hasnt it literally tail end of jan and all of feb have been so so difficult to film detailing content.. its just horrible having to clean cars when the conditions are bad I really respect you guys that do it every day and maintain the passion and drive for excellence.. cheers mike

@mikeparker9812 4 жыл бұрын

@@forensicunplugged4295 Thanks. You're doing an awesome job. I love your videos. Keep up the good work 👍

@BrianW1612 4 жыл бұрын

Both have done a job there Jon, that much is clear. Solid products as you said, just not a patch on the best.

@gimenofm 4 жыл бұрын

You first removed the one that you applied last...so for sure that has a good 2 minutes or so less dwell time. Yes you blasted the wrong side first again lol. Anyway, do you really think these products are worth it if you clean your cars regularly? I rinse the car with water before snowfoaming and I never really felt like I needed any pre-wash product, I just think they are dangerous for any protection that the paint may have.

@noeking9095 4 жыл бұрын

I haven’t used tfr for ages as I rinse and snowfoam my car every 1- 3 weeks depending on weather . Last time remember i had to pull out tfr was the day after bonfire night and when I drove through mud

@alexmcque8250 4 жыл бұрын

How would I get cement splatter off vehicle paint ?

@paulthompson9294 4 жыл бұрын

alex mcque I’d like to know this too👍

@simonjames2855 4 жыл бұрын

There is no chemical way of getting it off, use a plastic credit type card to remove what will come off easily and anything that won't come off has to be very carefully sanded. You will scratch the clear coat. Then polish out the micro scratches.

@GeeWhizRS 4 жыл бұрын

That foamer looks fucking awful Jon; if you insist on a pump foamer, ask Marolex to send you some gawd damned samples! I'm getting to the opinion that foaming a product is completely pointless you know. Providing the product hits the panel at the correct PIR, why and how would the panel know whether it is being hit with foam or not? I'm not convinced on the dwell time thing.

@ianstott9318 4 жыл бұрын

Some folks use Bilt Hamber Autofoam this way,any thoughts? Another dose of man flue if your not careful.

@andrewmurdoch2335 4 жыл бұрын

I use Autofoam with a normal garden type pump sprayer and it works a treat!

@adamg3938 4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't use TFR on the body work, it's to course and strips any protection

@russellemery8187 3 жыл бұрын

Not all tfr's strip protective coatings there are some that are lsp safe just check on product specs

@willsy5164 4 жыл бұрын

Does snow foam kill Coronavirus?

@phil6812 4 жыл бұрын

😆😂

@maximtrofimov1799 4 жыл бұрын

Bilt hamber should kill corona :D

@giovannigallo8429 4 жыл бұрын

Jon, I think the two previous were better..

@stwg32 4 жыл бұрын

When making a video like this you should keep a first on, first off policy. The first you rinsed off was the last you put on.

@markkerr3761 4 жыл бұрын

If you're new to Jon's videos you'll know that he's normally very particular about being fair in tests... I think the weather has just played its part as he only had a small window to rinse the products off - given that he had to contend with hail stones! In all honesty though, I don't see what difference it would have made as both products were dwelling in excess of 10 minutes - if they can't fulfill requirements within that time frame then they probably aren't worth buying - you wouldn't want to leave a product on your paintwork that long in dryer/warmer conditions!

@stwg32 4 жыл бұрын

@@markkerr3761 I'm not new or am I trying to suggest he's not honest in the test. It's just what I noticed and nothing more.

@Pedroluvslupe 4 жыл бұрын

Autoglanze didn’t work at all is not true that is touchless wash, I bought brut and spritz completely waist of money start believing that there is not a such thing you have to do contact wash if im wrong tell me what product is really touchless wash and remove all the traffic film

@forensicunplugged4295 4 жыл бұрын

I did a live or rough cut video with both of them recently and they removed a ton of film. its hard for me to comment on what goes wrong but usually its expectation versus whats possible. I do agree though there is no chem you can use at home to make a touchless or contactless wash. If there was we would all be using it. but they are powerfull cleaning products.

@Pedroluvslupe 4 жыл бұрын

Forensic Unplugged im very disappointing on the KZfaq Channel auto glance shows incredible videos about touchless washes didn’t work if it’s not touchless any soap remove road film just do a contact wash and done! I’ll stick with my regular soap wash the only one I haven’t tried is bilt hamber and other from USA chem x stripes and stars

@ForensicDetailing 4 жыл бұрын

@@Pedroluvslupe the less dirt you have to remove with contact the less scratches... at least thats the theory.

@phil6812 4 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of the Power Maxed products. The brake cleaner is pretty useless.

@chrisyoung5573 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but as far as i'm concerned,(imo) snow foam is a fake product. It has little or no effect. The amount you blasted the car with the pressure washer would have the same results without applying any snow foam at all

@Matt-lw9lj 4 жыл бұрын

Use Built Hamber and you’ll see how stupid this comment makes you look. Fact

@markkerr3761 4 жыл бұрын

@@Matt-lw9lj Here here... I'm getting a bit fed up reading people saying how useless snow foam is without actually doing the research... Or maybe they used some cheap crap off amazon once through their karcher dispenser and decided that was that! Bilt Hamber mixed properly and applied properly is a phenomenal product. I find it removes at least 80% of dirt/film off my car that would NOT be removed by pressure washing alone.

@markkerr3761 4 жыл бұрын

Chris that's basically like saying soaking your dishes in soapy water before washing them has no effect... 🤷🏻‍♂️

@paulrollings2791 3 жыл бұрын

@@markkerr3761 I don't think BHSF removes any more dirt, after the first pressure wash, don't matter what TIR I've used. Finally gave up with the stuff when I used 500 BHSF 500 water run fingers over the paint still leaves the Sam line as it did with the first pressure wash.

@naeemsheikh4597 4 жыл бұрын

You need to blow your nose and stop sniffling. Other than that, all we can hear is you huffing and puffing. You need to get fitter if you're making these videos and you walk around a car and get out of breath. I'm interested to hear your views on the products, not your sniffling and heavy breath! But from a content perspective, useful stuff (even though you go on a bit)