Altering the offset on big fat tractor wheels

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Snowball Engineering

Snowball Engineering

10 ай бұрын

In this video I remove the wheel rim centres to change the offset by 4.5inches.
First job is to remove the tyres, this proves a difficult job as the wells in the rim are quite deep and the tyre is quite wide! Also, I’m not a tyre fitter.
After the tyres are removed, I measure the offset for reference.
I then use the arc air gouger to blast away the old welds holding the centres in. Once removed, the rim and centre are ground down and cleaned up. Some weld is required to fill in where I’ve taken too much away.
Once both pieces are cleaned up, I use offcuts of box section tacked together to give me the correct new offset and clamp them on the centre. The centre is dropped back into the rim and centralised using a shim. It’s then tack welded into place.
The centre is then further trued up once placed onto the wheel hub where it can be spun around.
When I’m happy with how the wheel runs. It’s welded back in.
Same process for the second wheel.
Last job is to seal up the other side with silicone.
Hope you enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching.

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@mr_b_hhc
@mr_b_hhc 15 күн бұрын
Taking the tyre off really added a lot of time to the job but it was absolutely the correct thing to do, nice to see someone take the time to do it once and do it right.
@TheGrimReaper1
@TheGrimReaper1 9 күн бұрын
It’s a good job you are wearing that air filter helmet, those shipyard welders during the war should have had something like that.
@ralphyoung5443
@ralphyoung5443 10 ай бұрын
You said you were not paying attention, I disagree. If you weren't paying attention you would you have welded the center in upside down. Nice Job keep up the great work . I'm rooting for you kid.
@Snargfargle
@Snargfargle 10 ай бұрын
Good work! I always hated dismounting and mounting tractor tires. I worked on farms when I was younger. It can be pretty hard work at times, and long hours, especially if you have livestock to take care of. I joined the Army for an easier job. It wasn't, but at least I didn't have to work cattle anymore. I like eating them but I don't like raising them.
@warbirdwf
@warbirdwf 10 ай бұрын
I love the attention to detail to get it right the first time. So many people do things half assed because they are lazy. Nice to see someone take pride in their work! Good job!
@noahingram8052
@noahingram8052 10 ай бұрын
Eh
@rudyrivera7426
@rudyrivera7426 10 ай бұрын
True words!!
@rudyrivera7426
@rudyrivera7426 10 ай бұрын
A great job! Thanks for sharing! 👌👍
@Heretic_Dezign
@Heretic_Dezign 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say its taking pride, it's more like having the self discipline and ability to do the job properly, too many only "think" they are good at what they try to do
@kindablue1959
@kindablue1959 10 ай бұрын
One of my favorite things about your work is seeing the jigs you come up with - the way you suspended that hub with the box sections and clamps was just brilliant! Thanks for letting us watch you work this stuff out.
@warrenjones744
@warrenjones744 10 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with that Oliver. I do like your quick and easy fixture to get the offset where you want it and your method to get the wobbly's out. Well done👍
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@gav2759
@gav2759 10 ай бұрын
Nothing on the box tonight, to compete with a bit of gouging and welding....Thanks for posting.
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@IvyMike.
@IvyMike. 10 ай бұрын
Considering the size of the wheel, I am impressed that you got the runout down to that, well done sir!!
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@no_nuts
@no_nuts 10 ай бұрын
My wife just asked me this -- "Couldn't he have used his pallet forks to break the bead on the tire?" I love her so much!
@davidgibson5756
@davidgibson5756 10 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing, but remembered that most forklift forks are simply hanging from a crossbar,15:12 and the width can be adjusted by sliding them left or right. Another tractor on the farm probably has the type of front end loader that could push down on the tire.
@jimrankin2583
@jimrankin2583 10 ай бұрын
He does use the forks to squish the tire down into the “drop” of the rim on the second one. At the distance from the mast of those long forks, he’s not going to get much force to break the bead loose. As you say, a front end loader or wheel loader can deliver the kind of pressure required. All in all, the tires weren’t stuck on the rims badly, so breaking them loose wasn’t the biggest problem. Getting the first few bites with the tire irons was the big job. Some tire lube, cooking shortening (CRISCO) or even WD-40 would have helped a lot
@no_nuts
@no_nuts 10 ай бұрын
@@jimrankin2583 Not at the point I wrote this comment, he had not.
@no_nuts
@no_nuts 10 ай бұрын
@@davidgibson5756 Miss the point much?
@pabloestafez6830
@pabloestafez6830 10 ай бұрын
​@@davidgibson5756my thought was just use the forks to break it with a heavy load on it🤔💁
@sonicbluecoupe
@sonicbluecoupe 8 ай бұрын
The jigs you make to help you do the job, is sometimes more interesting to me than the job. 👍🏻
@NOELTM
@NOELTM 10 ай бұрын
Fair play to you for sharing with us the centre upside hiccup. You could have edited it out and we wouldn't have known. Seems to me no workshop can be without the essential equipment, of a big hammer and a lump of wood for those tasks requiring "persuasion". I was wondering how "out of true" the wheel rims may have been before you cut the centres out. Maybe you have given them back to the customer with a tighter tolerance than you received them! Great job thanks for bringing us along.
@1500SCHLUTER
@1500SCHLUTER 13 күн бұрын
Very good job .what ever you charge for this kind of service its well earned hard work. I did a lot of this sort of work back in the day at least your looking after your lungs an angle grinder is a dirty tool. Keep up the good work.
@chrisbailey459
@chrisbailey459 10 ай бұрын
I’m looking forward to the book/video of 101 use,s of a set of forks that the forklift maker never listed in the sales pamphlets. Good work mate.
@RambozoClown
@RambozoClown 10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't put your 200mm spacers on the floor then set the rim over them, so your weld would have been facing up. Good catch on that flipped center. That would have been a bad day.
@JesusThineBeTheGlory
@JesusThineBeTheGlory 10 ай бұрын
That looked like a very complicated situation with the inconsistence of the rim. Well done 👍
@PaddyGun
@PaddyGun 10 ай бұрын
The older style 2 piece wheels on tractors were a great job, not suitable for heavy, heavy work but having 4 offsets that you could change with an impact gun and a bit of grunt in brilliant
@BackyardMechCon
@BackyardMechCon 10 ай бұрын
Definitely the right call to take off the tyre. The heat itself from the gouging would cause the air to expand inside the tyre and it could potentially explode. Good job! 😊
@warrenjones744
@warrenjones744 10 ай бұрын
Somewhere on You Tube there is an old video that a tire company made showing why you should dismount the tire when welding. Blowing your head off was the number one reason. Good call Oliver
@jimrankin2583
@jimrankin2583 10 ай бұрын
Wheels of fire kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oKiFid2YqK6spXU.html
@bobalobmitchell
@bobalobmitchell 10 ай бұрын
Search for tyre pyrolysis explosion
@benediktpaul157
@benediktpaul157 7 ай бұрын
While you are right about the pressure I always just let the air out. Never bothered to take the tire off and never had a problem with anything. Just make sure it's not a tubed tire xD
@terryh8421
@terryh8421 10 ай бұрын
It would have been interesting to see the original runout.Impressive what you achieved!
@ianbrooks6816
@ianbrooks6816 10 ай бұрын
Bigger hammer! Bigger grinder! Great watching you skilled fabrication
@ProfSimonHolland
@ProfSimonHolland 8 ай бұрын
interesting to see how you worked out how to do it. good job.
@colinm.7962
@colinm.7962 10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed that. You're always trying to show us something different each video. Definitely a tricky one. Well done you.👍
@nighttrain1450
@nighttrain1450 10 ай бұрын
Having spent many years site welding in all sorts of contorted angles to get to the job my heart goes out to your back. That had to hurt.👏👏
@carloskawasaki656
@carloskawasaki656 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I learn a lot, I enjoy your project 👍👍👍👍
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 10 ай бұрын
Excellent job. I was delighted to learn how you got the centres on straight! Thanks for another excellent video.
@petegraham1458
@petegraham1458 10 ай бұрын
Nice to see your Dad, you should introduce him , I often see him in the background. Looks like a nice dog who came to watch too. Nice job on the wheel rims !
@stuartbridger5177
@stuartbridger5177 10 ай бұрын
Found your channel via Paul & Hedley. The Silent Pool is close to where I grew up and is a magical place. The gin is excellent as well. Alas the legend was a Victorian invention to encourage tourism. It certainly worked.
@user-mx2ml4bw5l
@user-mx2ml4bw5l 10 ай бұрын
As always great attention to detail and a job well donw. Look forward to the next job.
@kenwood8665
@kenwood8665 10 ай бұрын
It’s an absolute pleasure to watch your video
@gerryoneill8881
@gerryoneill8881 10 ай бұрын
Good problem solving there, well done.
@ncut5547
@ncut5547 10 ай бұрын
Awesome job again ...I do miss my 9inch angle grinder moved to Canada 15yrs ago don't seem to have the same stuff as back in the uk ...thks again for your videos they always give some new way of doing stuff thks ...
@dhewitt2514
@dhewitt2514 10 ай бұрын
Definitely the right decision to remove the tyre. Three guys were killed near me while welding a brake drum on a partially deflated scraper tyre.
@turnerscorner9516
@turnerscorner9516 5 ай бұрын
Likened your honesty with your work.
@jimlong527
@jimlong527 10 ай бұрын
Excellent welds, we see you can do it all. Thanks for the video.
@yeagerxp
@yeagerxp 10 ай бұрын
Excellent work 👍👍👍 . Thank you for sharing. Take care of yourself 🇨🇦
@nutgone100
@nutgone100 10 ай бұрын
More great work. I don’t know why I’m so addicted to watching work on big stuff, I rebuild magnetos everyday, so everything I do is tiny in comparison, but I love watching your work (although I’m glad I don’t have to do all your heavy lifting, watch your back). Keep up the good work, maybe one day I’ll get the confidence to video what I do & put it on KZfaq.
@MrMrWrench
@MrMrWrench 10 ай бұрын
Good work. Thanks for the video and your time.
@ianm1470
@ianm1470 10 ай бұрын
Another interesting project ~ the alignment and concentricity was dam near perfect ~ well done and thanks for posting 👍🏻
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@hornetboy3694
@hornetboy3694 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video, thank you Oliver. Great work
@normesmonde5332
@normesmonde5332 10 ай бұрын
Great problem solving mate 🇦🇺
@allenbrown7820
@allenbrown7820 10 ай бұрын
Well done on trueing the wheels up. Reminded me of trueing up wedge lock rims on JD 4020. Set a spray can beside the wheel and roll it over tightening the bolts to get it even. I was yelling at the phone when I seen the second center upside down!😂 I had faith you would see before you welded it. Don’t blame you for sending the wheels back without the tires on them. Save the customer money 😁. Great video! Be Safe!
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
Gday, I think you did a good job getting the centre squared up as close as you did, probably closer the it was originally when you see how they are made, great job mate, cheers
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Matty, hope you’re doing alright!
@timtim2451
@timtim2451 10 ай бұрын
really enjoy your videos. good job. hope your channel grows fast soon. greets from germany
@davejohnstone1500
@davejohnstone1500 2 ай бұрын
patience of a Saint Oliver wow 👌
@jamesriordan3494
@jamesriordan3494 10 ай бұрын
Well done mate !
@Wizedealsales
@Wizedealsales 10 ай бұрын
Nice work as always!
@Hey_Its_That_Guy
@Hey_Its_That_Guy 10 ай бұрын
I bet those rims were out by quite a bit before you took them apart. Like you said so well, it's a tractor, not a Ferrari. Top work, Ollie!
@jonathanodell9507
@jonathanodell9507 10 ай бұрын
Oliver ain’t no fool, good job. This young gentleman has a very creative thinking problem solving mind. So good to see in a younger person.
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
I love the problem solving! Best part of the job for me. 😁
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 10 ай бұрын
Great job as always, removing those tyres was a pain. Thanks for sharing
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TheoNolanIsles
@TheoNolanIsles 10 ай бұрын
Hey mate, thanks for your videos, they're good stuff and I like the way you approach and clearly think about jobs. I've got a bit of a tip for you if you're interested about using heavy hammers, or more accurately how to reduce having to use them.... first off, I'm 6'4" and 120kg, and I'm not built for using sledge hammers either - Nobody is. So, the thing about hammers is that when you use a hammer you're always actually using two: there's the hammer, and there's the thing you're hammering against which is a dolly or anvil or forklift tine or whatever. The thing you're hammering against has a bigger effect than the hammer, it's hitting back at the same time as you are hammering. In this video you hammer out the centre after gouging with the rim sitting on the forklift tines. If you look at the video you can see how you're wasting a huge amount of energy by just bending the tines, which is effectively the same as having a spring between your hammer and the workpiece. If you lower the tines so they're on the ground then more of the energy from the hammer will be focused into the join you're trying to break and I guarantee you'll need a fraction of the hammering for the same work. One other tip is that moving the hammer twice as fast quadruples the energy, whereas doubling the weight of the hammer only doubles the force. So if you can use a hammer half the weight but swing it twice as fast, you'll be doubling the force of your hit. Hope you get some use out of the tip, and thanks again.
@BalerManSam
@BalerManSam 10 ай бұрын
Great advice!
@redknighton5405
@redknighton5405 6 ай бұрын
I’m not a welder but after watching snowball, CEE, and IC weld I’ve decided my life is not going to be complete until I get my own forklift.
@mattybean4039
@mattybean4039 10 ай бұрын
Good work right there, always a pain getting them to run true again after moving the centres 👌
@Prestonwelding
@Prestonwelding 10 ай бұрын
Great job sir. Love the videos.
@Dmenbiker
@Dmenbiker 10 ай бұрын
Amazing... You figuring out the steps and process to reconfigure the wheel rims... I did not know silicone was used to seal the weld bead... Seems I learn stuff on each of your videos... Thanks...
@kenreeve6549
@kenreeve6549 10 ай бұрын
great work as usual
@robertstewart7744
@robertstewart7744 10 ай бұрын
Great job.
@johnh2309
@johnh2309 10 ай бұрын
Great job - well done.
@alanrichardson1672
@alanrichardson1672 10 ай бұрын
Bit of a chew that one but you pulled it off marvellously. Great video, great techniques for truing the wheel, not many would tackle a job like that. Well done. 👍👍
@gerryboard6615
@gerryboard6615 10 ай бұрын
A straight rim on a tractor wheel !. Never, not even from new, and even more so after the farmers have driven them a few times.
@thepagan5432
@thepagan5432 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting, I thought the hub would have been welded from both sides, just shows what thought does. I used to moan changing a tyre on my motorcycle, those tyres on the tractor were beasts. Thanks for the post, enjoyed it. Keep well 👍
@gbentley8176
@gbentley8176 10 ай бұрын
Real witches cauldron job. Well done indeed, excellent.
@jameskirby2604
@jameskirby2604 10 ай бұрын
Good to watch. You made it look easy.
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@TonyFromSydney
@TonyFromSydney 10 ай бұрын
Good work mate.
@kirkpowell6161
@kirkpowell6161 10 ай бұрын
Great video!
@alc818
@alc818 10 ай бұрын
Nice job!!! Good Idea mounting the wheel center on a spare hub! Hindsight is always easier... But, I might have done that before I started just to get a baseline for how far out of center it was and how much it wobbled when I received it. I also might have tried mounting the wheel on the spare hub and securing the edge of the rim to the table while I air arced out the wheel center. With the wheel secured in that fashion it may have been easier to "float" the wheel center in place and use spacers on the hub to create the required offset... Once it was tacked securely, welding it out like you did was just like having a rotary positioner...
@joeduffy3309
@joeduffy3309 10 ай бұрын
This is the problem with doing anything for farmers, they never have the intelligence, manners or appreciation to either wash anything or prepare it before bringing their equipment to a workshop for repair. I can say this after 25 years of this kind of work. Here in particular they could have brought those rims to any tire shop and had the tyres whipped off them saving this man and his dad a couple of hours of hardship.
@stephenkelly2067
@stephenkelly2067 6 ай бұрын
Stupid farmer could bought correct rim and saved any work whatsoever! 🙄
@officialmysteriousrider130
@officialmysteriousrider130 10 ай бұрын
Nice job has always bud
@allenbrown7820
@allenbrown7820 10 ай бұрын
Have an idea for the next video. Fabricate a stand for the rotary table so it can adjust to a vertical position so you don’t have to stand on your head to weld. I do admire your will to get the job done right though. Keep up the good work and Be Safe.
@michaelmiller7208
@michaelmiller7208 7 ай бұрын
Good Work. Good video bro.
@endemiller5463
@endemiller5463 10 ай бұрын
Nice job. Thanks for sharing. God Bless
@alanremington8500
@alanremington8500 10 ай бұрын
Nice job !!
@steve_weinrich
@steve_weinrich 10 ай бұрын
Nice job!
@erikslagter3231
@erikslagter3231 10 ай бұрын
Another fun video!
@zzmike
@zzmike 10 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable! Thanks!
@dannygreene4594
@dannygreene4594 29 күн бұрын
Yes please to the drawbar and a look at the finished trailer thanks
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 7 ай бұрын
My first reaction was it use threaded rod to suspend the nave (centre) of the wheel and then use wedges to centre it but your method works admirably. The only point worth making is that as the offset is now greater there is more leverage on both the steering and the bearings that will need to be monitored more regularly.
@phil6465
@phil6465 10 ай бұрын
Note to self in future. Customers to supply rims without tyres, 😀
@williamwarnold6737
@williamwarnold6737 10 ай бұрын
I work at tyres, and I’m surprised that you accepted them with their tyres on. That is very heavy going, getting them removed, while loose. I had a couple of new backs to fit, a few weeks back. The farmer thought he was helping me by having them loose from the tractor, and the first thing I done was put them back on again. It’s hard enough work, with out making it harder, on the old back. Plus having them on the tractor, will assist greatly when you come to blowing them out onto the bead.
@innertubemac
@innertubemac 10 ай бұрын
💥great video 👍the arc gouged better on the second rim , it burnt of less paint on the outside . Thicker rod or your technique improved , nice one Mr Snowball.
@mikekelly7506
@mikekelly7506 10 ай бұрын
Excellent job you never know if you'd checked those rims before cutting the centre out they might have already been out.
@cheechU38K
@cheechU38K 10 ай бұрын
😜 if you’re gonna try tyre removal, go for the biggest one 😅 wow that was a neat gouging free hand 👌🏼 might have been smoother on a powered foot pedal turntable 😝
@davetaylor4741
@davetaylor4741 10 ай бұрын
Lot of work to offset two wheels. But nicely done. So many of those big front wheel tractors come out the factory with the wheels hitting the tractor at full lock. Years ago had a brand new County. Chewed into itself every time you took a tight turn. Ie. Only one football field. Some manufacturers get over this by making the wheels lean out as you turn. Whichever it is a problem you don't get with the small 2WD tractor wheels.
@normanbuchanan9710
@normanbuchanan9710 10 ай бұрын
that was a clever solution to what appears to have been a very complicated situation and for wheels that size on a slow moving vehicle I think the tolerance difference will probably not be noticable.
@garethdavies3220
@garethdavies3220 10 ай бұрын
Pleased to see that you removed the tyre , as W.Jones also commented , it's possible to get a runaway fire or reaction inside a wheel and tyre with catastrophic results. More people should be made aware of this , as I was untill a few years ago. Great video as always Oliver.
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
I have done one before with the tyre on, luckily nothing happened but I’ve since learnt the damages! Thanks!
@Harry-ll2xm
@Harry-ll2xm Ай бұрын
When you did this job an over head crane would have been very handy
@peterwooldridge7285
@peterwooldridge7285 10 ай бұрын
20,000+ subscribers, and you can understand why...great video, cheers
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@victimovtalent6036
@victimovtalent6036 2 ай бұрын
they works fast😮
@markfiges999
@markfiges999 10 ай бұрын
I hated tyre fighting.
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
It’s not fun!
@incubatork
@incubatork 9 ай бұрын
Rather than using a clamp, Drilling a large hole in the end of the forklift tines to fit a bolt or eyebolt will make it much safer and easier when using slings to lift things.
@michaelgoergen6702
@michaelgoergen6702 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the education I have to do that on some 12 inch Deere wheels
@TheRossi48
@TheRossi48 10 ай бұрын
Muito bom!!!!! Parabéns!
@malcolmbennett3907
@malcolmbennett3907 10 ай бұрын
Where there’s a will there’s a way. Brilliant vid. You’ll get all the boy racers wanting to reverse the rims on their Vauxhall Corsa.😂😂
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 10 ай бұрын
one would think those rims came off a FELD Monster jam truck being so out. might have found a niche market Ollie - custom making wheels for UK / European Monster truck teams. for free handing gouging the centers out , welding them back in the rims came out pretty damned good
@jimallen9442
@jimallen9442 3 ай бұрын
Tyre fitting can be tricky, once, I changed the tyre on my pushbike.
@davidmc8110
@davidmc8110 7 ай бұрын
For a job like that you can use the smaller gouging rod and probably move along faster, because you don't have to be as careful and you can get a hotter burn at the rod's end making it easier to control your gouging area. (I would use the smaller rods when I couldn't get enough amps because of my distance from the machine, and you can move along pretty fast with those.)
@garymallard4699
@garymallard4699 10 ай бұрын
Soapy water is your Best Friend doing tire changes...add some dishwashing detergent to water in a spray bottle and lube the bead areas on tire and rim..lots !! The stiffer the tire the more lube helps...still going to be tough if you don't do tires lots...
@baldyoldfart5828
@baldyoldfart5828 10 ай бұрын
it would be like the fire engine on trumpton... the old man will be sea sick hehe
@andrewmiller2868
@andrewmiller2868 10 ай бұрын
Where would you be without your dad? 🤣🤣🤣.
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering 10 ай бұрын
I know! 🤣
@robseward7496
@robseward7496 10 ай бұрын
You did the right thing taking the tires off the rims buddy
@surindersandhi3924
@surindersandhi3924 10 ай бұрын
Hi My Friend Very Good Job ❤❤❤❤❤
@01blackhills
@01blackhills 10 ай бұрын
Tractor tyres without the right tools are a pig to get off! I use my telehandler to push down on a block of wood on the tyre wall. Pops off every time without breaking a sweat
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