Charlie Bucket really lived long enough to see himself become the villain of his story
@tomholmes50555 ай бұрын
I love that theory
@SerialChiller10005 ай бұрын
He did, he really did.
@justinlee20305 ай бұрын
@@tomholmes5055all these years later and that theory is just as memorable to me as the movie itself. Such an outlandish idea too.
@SwiftlySev5 ай бұрын
Got that theory right under this video.
@rogerlimoseth47905 ай бұрын
Ever since I watched that video comparing two I watch this movie with a whole new set of eyes. I believe his theory is correct.
@kevinmcvicker47715 ай бұрын
Chris Evans needs more roles like this instead of Marvel roles. He has such untapped range.
@morganbrown3925 ай бұрын
You should see him in the Scott Pilgrim movie. Dudes hilarious in all of the 7 minutes he’s in the film.
@Morfe025 ай бұрын
Nah in Human Torch he IS like 70% of the movie the man Carry two movies with bad writing
@MuchCow90005 ай бұрын
Not Another Teen Movie
@tobyduarte98494 ай бұрын
I thought Push was pretty awesome with him in it too.
@fish75984 ай бұрын
He's fantastic in knives out
@momsberettas95765 ай бұрын
"That's what people in the best place say to people in the worst place." Underrated line.
@Caiphex3 ай бұрын
There's a reason this was directed by the same guy who directed parasite later in his career
@emmanuela7528Ай бұрын
@@CaiphexHis whole career has been examining class relations.
@thisisaname5589Ай бұрын
In this case, he's entirely correct. There really wasn't another choice. They needed the tension, the occasional rebellion and its casualties. To preserve mankind on that train.
@burntbiscuit89817 күн бұрын
@thisisaname5589 Or maybe, scrap the class system so that everyone can live together, equally?
@thisisaname558917 күн бұрын
@@burntbiscuit898 That's a great way for everyone to starve. Equality is nice, and in normal times it's quite ideal. They're on a train after the apocalypse. Times aren't normal.
@dirdib695 ай бұрын
I love that Wilford immediately understands the one thing most seductive to Curtis. Not food, but solitude. Of course, the whole "it's noisy" mistake was an unnecessary one. Curtis hates himself so much, and he's come to believe that no one other than the children deserve to live. His people are all dead - he's got nothing to fight for. I'm assuming it was the revelation about how the children are being used that pushes him over the last edge.
@EternalDawn5 ай бұрын
How were the children being used?
@voliker5 ай бұрын
@@EternalDawnthey were used as a cogs for engine. Watch the movie
@dirdib695 ай бұрын
@@EternalDawn They were being made to service the engine, from inside it - as a replacement for a part that "recently went extinct" in Wilbur's words. It's one of the arguments used in the idea that Snowpiercer is a sequel to Willy Wonka, and that the "parts" were actually Oompa Loompas.
@Patrick-uh8xj5 ай бұрын
@@dirdib69movie is about capitalism and obviously child labor was/is a huge component for capitalism.
@wangusbeef865 ай бұрын
@@Patrick-uh8xjWhere does child labor happen the most? Oh that's right, communist China 😂
@-Vitalis-5 ай бұрын
Sometimes, when you put the "big picture" into a smaller canvas... it actually makes it even more terrifying. This movie is cursed. Leaves you with more questions than answers. And I love it.
@Nylakalus5 ай бұрын
Even with the snowpiercer series it brings up more questions than answers to how it all ended up here.
@thedevilsadvocate37105 ай бұрын
If you're unable to come to an answer, it means you definitely will accept your role at back of the train.
@Me-ke6sm5 ай бұрын
It’s really not that complicated. The movie is an obvious metaphor for capitalism and the antagonistic relationship between the proletariats and the bourgeoisie. Him making his way to the front of the train with goal of confronting the conductor being a metaphor for a person who has experienced poverty rising through the social classes and becoming rich with the goal of changing society in mind. Once he reaches the top social class, the 1%, or the front of the train (whatever you want to call it), he is then really one faced with one remaining moral dilemma… That being… “do we continue the oppression and injustice of the status quo, or do we cast it aside and venture out into the unknown, taking a gamble on some new system of commerce.” He makes the obviously necessary decision when he derails the train and frees them all, only to find that the dangers of the outside world were greatly exaggerated…. Just like alternatives to poorly regulated capitalism.
@stateofopportunity12865 ай бұрын
@@Me-ke6smAh, the Marxist analysis. The quickest path back to Feudalism.
@acash935 ай бұрын
The dangers of the world were not greatly exaggerated. People did freeze to death when they escaped the train in the past. It's the fact that the climate was warming up again. While a polar bear can survive out there, a human probably won't. Curtis, in my opinion, doomed everyone.
@hansofaxalia5 ай бұрын
I wish I could’ve seen Wilfred’s face when he realized the outside was habitable again. Then again, someone obsessed like him wouldn’t stop the train even if it it weren’t necessary anymore
@1Ashram5 ай бұрын
Easy to say since you posses Meta knowledge, as for Wilford, he does not, stoping the train comes with a damn high risk, Wilford cannot grant total freedom to everyone, because the ressources on the train do not allow him to, now, he himself, could of course sit in first class and let some of his minions work on the Engine Eternal by his instructions, but he did not, he himself tends to the Engine, people like you exist in a world where ressources are plentiful, easy to point the finger and consider Wilford a tyrant and evil then. In reality, he did the best he could considering the circumstances.
@ravenblood19545 ай бұрын
@@1AshramLol the refrain of every tyrant ever my friend. The resources are scarce beyond the point where they needed to be scarce because those in power never committed the necessary resources to look for a better solution than what they had. They had no reason to, they were on top, they weren’t starving or dying of disease. So the risk of stopping the train for them is far higher than the people on the lower end of the train who have very little left to lose to begin with. That’s the point of the story. At one point the restrictions are necessary, but things continued long past the point where it was because people in power found it too comfortable to look for a better solution
@bsgfan15 ай бұрын
@@ravenblood1954 Lmao, that’s some hardcore copium there my friend. Wilford is right. The planet IS NOT habitable. Not for humans anyways. They try and use the polar bear, an animal built to survive arctic temperatures, as an example that humans can survive outside. Spoiler alert: we can’t. It’s only possible with modern technology, electricity, and heat, the last of which just got destroyed with Snowpiercer. And that’s not even counting the temperature drop at night, which literally just a few days before showed is still cold enough to freeze human flesh solid. Even better question, what are they going to eat? What are they going to drink? Where are they going to find shelter? Yeah, turns out survival in a frozen wasteland isn’t so easy, is it? Cherry on the top is that there’s a freaking _polar bear_ roaming around, which if you didn’t know, absolutely will put humans on the menu. TL;DR: The planet’s not habitable, Wilford is right not to stop the train, and you’re reeeeeeeeeeally pulling at straws
@fefnireindraer1445 ай бұрын
wtf you talking about? there is NOTHING but snow. no fields, no train, no NOTHING. anyone that survived is polar bear food PERIOD.
@nickmalachai22274 ай бұрын
He built the train before the world froze over, and he's reached the point where the train is as close to his god as his ego can allow. I think he'd rather freeze the world over again than stop the train.
@whynot-tomorrow_19455 ай бұрын
0:06 It's crazy how quickly and how well he makes that little hand gesture signifying the engine mechanism. It feels like he invented it.
@hansofaxalia5 ай бұрын
He made the train, that was the plot of the movie
@plmokm335 ай бұрын
He literally did lol
@whynot-tomorrow_19455 ай бұрын
@@plmokm33 I like how the actor and director got that point across. Not everyone would really notice/care.
@plmokm335 ай бұрын
@@whynot-tomorrow_1945 yea I liked as well. I thought it was a little obvious at the beginning of the movie when the woman did it, because I knew immediately it would call back to it later. The reveal of what it represented was pretty well done.
@hansofaxalia3 ай бұрын
@@whynot-tomorrow_1945the people saying “we have to take Willard down every other scene, the Willard school, and the giant ass W’s everywhere were pretty subtle
@bartsanders15535 ай бұрын
There's something terrifying about a perfectly calm Ed Harris.
@williampoole174224 күн бұрын
He might just be the best monologue deliverer I can think of, his voice and the way he stares right by the camera is amazing. This, A History of Violence, The Truman Show, Apollo 13.
@nunyabidness6745 ай бұрын
Wrap your head around this concept. Curtis just eyeballs the plate in front of him. The man was a cannibal once himself, and has just traveled the full length of the train. No livestock... The movie hints at chickens on board with the egg trolley, and chickens would be plausible within the context of the train. No red meats though, and that steak is a red meat. Curtis already knows he's being served people...
@cpt.zursee44305 ай бұрын
Allthough i want to believe this, i dont think they want to hint at the red meat being human meat?
@jonathanz.96755 ай бұрын
In real life they would die from prions if they did that. Human meat is deadly, increasingly so the more you eat it.
@brazzb7615 ай бұрын
considering the context of the graphic novel and series, cows are on the train.
@BigDaddySlug5 ай бұрын
Cows are definately on the train they skipped alot of trolleys in the movie no way thwy had timw to show them all
@brazzb7615 ай бұрын
@@BigDaddySlug oh for sure, there's 1001 cars in the series and novel, and even big alice, another perpetual train is 40, film train is also 60 cars according to sources, and those cars are also much larger than the cars of other versions.
@magellandufour15 ай бұрын
That Revelation that Gillian was working with Wilford THE ENTIRE TIME was truly shocking. And Curtiss didn't believe him until he mentioned this line. 4:10
@Adam-HobbesАй бұрын
Race hustlers
@mantidream81795 ай бұрын
The message simply reading "Train" was powerful. While on the surface it represents Wildord's plans for Curtis, being the new steward, it also conveys a sense of entirety and completion. The Snowpiercer endlessly circles the frozen Earth, is forever sustained by the eternal engine, and is both humanity's last holdout and place of rebirth. Curtis has walked the train from beginning to end, and thus finally understands the world.
@abelingaw50705 ай бұрын
If Curtis hadn't seen the kid inside the engine, he might've taken the position.. But damn.
@bn-tc2tk5 ай бұрын
What do you mean “if he hadn’t seen”? He was going to see a new kid come out in a few hours anyway
@thedoge95904 ай бұрын
@@bn-tc2tkthat's not true, the children come out when there is a malfunction and need to manually fix the issue. It was more like luck that a malfunction ovvured St the perfect moment to wake Curtis up otherwise he would have taken the position and had there been enough time before a malfunction Milford night have convinced Curtis using the children was a necessary evil to keep the train live which in turn keeps humanity alive. It's the classic train track thought experiment do you kill 1 person(the child) to save many or do you kill many(save the child but doom the train) honestly with how the film ends Curtis probably should have kept the train going.....after that derailment I doubt many survived the few that did don't know how to survive in an artic environment. If you know anything about the first explorers who tried to reach the artic circle you'll know how easy it is to die in such an environment.
@motherplayer3 ай бұрын
@@thedoge9590 But then the other problem is, like he said, the engine last forever, but not so much all it's parts. And as more and more parts go extinct, how much worse is it gonna look when they have to consider what will have to be done to fix that? Sure, it's just a couple of kids now, but what's going to be needed next time? What if it basically becomes a human meat machine to keep it going at some point?
@immie17093 ай бұрын
@@thedoge9590 At the end of the movie they see a Polar Bear, which means A) Probably a bad thing since Polar bears are apex predators haha but B) the more important thing is that it means life can survive outside the train which means human can too and possibly repopulate since it's the Asain child and small black boy left, so technically, they could reprodouce, plus there might of been other survivors, thats my take at least.
@boanoah6362Ай бұрын
@@immie1709 This is... optimistic at best, sorry, 2 children repopulating is a fairy tale, you need 80 genetically diverse people at MINIMUM to try and repopulate, the chances of that from a train stock of apparently 3000 or so people that have since been interbreeding is even slimmer. Now to take it a step further, the people that adapted to arctic conditions are extremely rare and have thousands upon thousands of years of heritage and tradition to survive there, even further they don't compete with polar bears either. So to put it mildly those kids are DEAD and any chance of them even coming close to producing offspring would just mean EVEN MORE DEAD KIDS.
@DieselD7101Ай бұрын
“There’s not a soul on this train who wouldn’t trade places with you.” “Would you trade places with me?” “Fuck you.” Holy shit, I love that line.
@albertluke54516 күн бұрын
Medium rare
@benresnicoff32865 ай бұрын
This is up there but doesn't come close to "THEY'VE GOT NO BULLLEEETTTSSS"
@Cho0segoose4 ай бұрын
@@Edward_Snatch It's such a great scene though. It gets you so pumped even though you later learn that it was all setup
@flashyturnip77303 ай бұрын
False. Nothing beats "CHIIIIIICKEEEEEN!"
@benresnicoff32863 ай бұрын
@@flashyturnip7730 HAHAHA true
@facehurt7606Ай бұрын
FIRE scene was epic
@DieselD7101Ай бұрын
Yeah, best line in the movie.
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus5 ай бұрын
Yeah the more I look at this the more I realize this was the best sequel to Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory to ever exist. The fact that the film shares a lot of the same style choices as the remake makes it even more interesting.
@Kingkongmental5 ай бұрын
Lol tin foil hats man
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus5 ай бұрын
@@Kingkongmental what even is this comment?
@bigbitehood13535 ай бұрын
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvushe's saying you sound friggin nuts. Wtf are you talking about?
@Lixtar_5 ай бұрын
I really recommend you guys to watch the video of this theory is obviously not true but the uncanny amount of coincidences is surprising
@wiilov5 ай бұрын
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvusThat people that take that theory seriously have a looser grip on reality than my schizo ass.
@Gatsu_Gambino5 ай бұрын
"The McGregor riots" Always gotta be an Irish man causing a riot! 😅
@anthonysouthard5572Ай бұрын
They ain't going to put up with no shit irish and Mexicans.
@MonigMediaАй бұрын
Ayo for real
@pancakes41405 ай бұрын
Slaughters his people *calm down bro*
@pyerack5 ай бұрын
"So tense. What's the matter? You look like a crazy person."
@dereenaldoambun9158Ай бұрын
"Chill out lmao. It's not even that deep."
@SumtinrandomАй бұрын
@@pyerack This type of rhetoric happens every day man. Just saw a podcast where some zionist shill normalized the death of 19.000 people and dismissed criticism on the basis of people being 'naïve'
@SyndicateBrink5 ай бұрын
Ed Harris can act literally anyone under the table. Favorite part is obviously ”3:38”
@ChrisInAVan5 ай бұрын
What was up with that chick in the yellow's voice? She sounds like an AI or something.
@jimjam79285 ай бұрын
One of those actors that, when they pop up, informs you that the film you're about to watch is gonna be good. Ed Harris never lets you down.
@riparianlife977015 ай бұрын
Seeing him act against Hopkins in Westworld was amazing.
@payperboii84775 ай бұрын
He was good in The History of Violence. Not sure if you seen it. but i recommend?
@__OS__5 ай бұрын
the good ol' keep the cycle or break it question
@keithfilibeck23905 ай бұрын
always break it, if it can so easily be broken, it's not worth keeping, evolution demands it.
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus5 ай бұрын
@@keithfilibeck2390 what evolution? To stop this machine is to stop humanity from living.
@pkal2445 ай бұрын
@@keithfilibeck2390 not so black & white in this case. Destroying the train means destroying an entire species, evolution not found.
@Yusuf-ok5rk5 ай бұрын
@@keithfilibeck2390 in this example you just end up getting out of cycle of evolution tho. getting permanently frozen.
@jonsimpson62405 ай бұрын
In this version. Keep it at all costs.
@MynameisBrianZX3 ай бұрын
3:37 Nice parallel of them both standing in anger and desperation. As much Wilford likes to appear in control and mocks Curtis for getting emotional, he knows that the engine cannot be fixed and he’s only delaying the train’s inevitable demise by throwing people off the brink.
@codafettАй бұрын
Exactly. They're doomed one way or another.
@pasty36564 ай бұрын
Ed Harris is one of those actors that always make anything he's in better..
@squamish4244Ай бұрын
Just when I thought this movie couldn't get any weirder, he gets to the front, and...I see Ed Harris in a bathrobe cooking a steak.
@adarshsaseendran2199Ай бұрын
If i had a nickel for everytime Ed Harris has a played a god character who regulates the live of the protagonist, i'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that happened twice.
@williampoole174224 күн бұрын
I mean, he kinda is for the three fellas in Apollo 13, right? Lol
@kentvesser948420 күн бұрын
@@williampoole1742 Also he was playing God in a way in the movie The Rock.
@ninjaduck353413 күн бұрын
Westworld too.
@davidbrenner58066 күн бұрын
Also playing god as a sniper in "Enemy At the Gates". Systematically killing everyone around the protagonist to flush him out in a crazy game of cat and mouse.
@ssga708110 сағат бұрын
Man on a ledge
@tardiscommand18125 ай бұрын
Captain America really did some bad ass things before he froze.
@takakocaesar5793 ай бұрын
and he does like to do badass things on trains in snowy places
@leesnotbritish53865 ай бұрын
“It’s unjust, and requires we take from some more than others, but without it we all fall” is a powerful analogy, Reminds me of dark souls honestly
@karhu75814 ай бұрын
i really want to hear how that reminds you of dark souls
@littlesneets80264 ай бұрын
@@karhu7581if I had to take a guess, it's because in the lore of Dark Souls, Gwyn and the gods all used the humanity of people to kindle the fire to keep the age of fire going, and thus prolong their reign. Humans paid the price, and thus Gwyn's rejection of the age of dark led to the curse that takes place, making people into undead hollows with no humanity left. On the other hand, Gwyn's age also might've prevented a calamity brought on by the dark, since if you look at Oolacile, the people there were tempted (most likely by Kaathe) to embrace darkness, and awoke a primal humanity known as Manus, which led to the spread of the abyss that transformed the people into monsters, driving them mad and in pain. So I imagine the similarity between Dark souls and Snowpiercer as this guy is implying, is that while the age of light requires the gods sacrificing people's humanity to the flame, failing to do so would mean failing to stave off the age of dark, which may or may not be better or worse for humans as a whole if we consider the fate of Oolacile. Similar to how Wilbur and the elites of the train front need to sacrifice the people at the tail to keep the engine going, even if it is scummy (Although in this case, it's weird none of them are really working together as a whole to keep the train going, don't really get why they made a class system in a train, but im not a bog Snowpiercer fan) (I'm sure that's the lore at least. Might be wrong)
@silentwalker4344 ай бұрын
When does he say that?
@ICK695 ай бұрын
A reflection of modern life clouded by Doomsday predictions leading to unnecessary suffering of the commons.
@Gunshywally13694 ай бұрын
I have been alone since the pandemic. So Curtis's mere few seconds of being alone still feels like a life time. It's a wonderful movie.
@Justthemow5 ай бұрын
If you watch the old guy he keeps doing the same motion that the kid in the floor does I think the train has been going longer then we believe
@Cho0segoose4 ай бұрын
No, he just knows because he built the train
@user-zn6qh8ur8bАй бұрын
*than
@Lorenzo120894 ай бұрын
This was an amazing movie. Loved every bit of it.
@chrisweidner47685 ай бұрын
Saw this while teaching in Vietnam. Profound film. Keep “speaking out against the madness.” Imagine a world where the machine is jailed, assets seized and used to begin undoing the damage they have inflicted and plan on humanity. Be kind. Always. This film should be studied in every high school in the 🌎.
@Big_AlMC5 ай бұрын
Nah. It shouldn't.
@lorentzcoffin49575 ай бұрын
It’s been tried before, repeatedly Each time has been a horrendous failure of famine and genocides Of course proponents of the idea invariably claim otherwise
@erievhs5 ай бұрын
@@Moloch_the_MAP what? Lol
@molybdenumrose4 ай бұрын
@@lorentzcoffin4957 The wealthy nations of the world are only wealthy because of famine and genocide elsewhere. The history of empires is a history of extraction.
@tristanstebbens13584 ай бұрын
@@lorentzcoffin4957 the fact you reduce such tragedies to a singular causation to push your ideological agenda kinda spells out you have no clue what you're talking about. Take the communistic famines for example. A lot of people don't know the issue wasn't ideology but mostly due to a single scientist's flawed agricultural theory that was put in widespread practice without any trialling nor peer assessment and resulted in bad yield across the ussr for several years. This was not from ideological influence but a scientific mistake that cost the lives of millions. The same kind of mistake that has occurred countless times within all ideologies. Just cause something specific happens within an ideology doesn't say a thing about the ideology itself unless it's provably inherent to it.
@chrismusix56695 ай бұрын
The people in the 'best position' made this movie.
@johndavey23404 ай бұрын
I always thought him claiming Gillian was a participant was a bluff to disarm him. That he was never in control but only wanted the illusion of it.
@surench8626 ай бұрын
Thank you for this masterpiece.
@francolive57185 ай бұрын
Ed Harris playing a villain? No way!
@GottaBeAHero4 ай бұрын
Amazing movie ❤ The show is amazing as well.
@Jan-Carel5 ай бұрын
Love the Yekaterina tunnel reference, didn't catch it until I saw a video about the Ipatiev house slaughter.
@ryanhampson67323 күн бұрын
Ed Harris is always phenomenal in everything he's in.
@jakenikolia14535 ай бұрын
i feel like the netfilx show fails to see the point of this movie
@jonsimpson62405 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@noelhenio11505 ай бұрын
What??? Netflix show
@nicholassmith79845 ай бұрын
The movie can only make it's point because it has a limited runtime. I haven't seen the series yet, but I imagine the need to keep the story going causes things to meander a bit.
@sofaking16115 ай бұрын
very few woke shows do
@nanashi11735 ай бұрын
@@sofaking1611grow up
@lampham55255 ай бұрын
Before wining oscar, Bong Jon Hoo had a chance to work together with legend Ed Harris
@zwordsman5 ай бұрын
I still love the Wonka fan theory
@nicktroisi63475 ай бұрын
Ed Harris plays such a great villain
@SamuelBlack843 ай бұрын
Why do villains always talk so much?
@aaronjanson56455 ай бұрын
Snowpiercer reminding people who the real enemies are.
@Oneamongthelegion5 ай бұрын
"Real enemies"? My good man the "Real enemy" is the human condition, not the rich, not the powerful,(Although all of these can be evil) but instead the very humanity that brings us so much good. Is the same humanity that causes us so much suffering. The most terrifying thing? We can never change it, Ever. To change the human condition would be to become no longer human. There is no "Cure" to evil, we can only kill it as it appears. But even then we will still never be safe, because evil is self serving. And self serving ideologies will always appeal to the selfish human nature.
@pugbread28734 ай бұрын
who?
@jojo-ow3tc4 ай бұрын
The 1%, its always the 1%. Theyre the only reason why the planets getting hotter
@Oneamongthelegion4 ай бұрын
@@jojo-ow3tc See my original response to OP.
@dependent-ability86314 ай бұрын
trains
@thomasway032018 күн бұрын
I will forever believe that this is a sequel to Willy Wonka.
@baridakara4 ай бұрын
i just watched this movie and this is not the movie to watch right before a new year 😭
@Seeattle5 ай бұрын
Claude really needs to mind that engine
@videogames99724 ай бұрын
ok found a movie to watch tonight
@CharlietheWarlock5 ай бұрын
Dang this guy is everywhere
@Mopark255 ай бұрын
There are people on reddit that absolutely despise this movie. I'll never understand them.
@John-Doe-Yo5 ай бұрын
Why do people on reddit despise it?
@Mopark255 ай бұрын
@@John-Doe-Yo Nitpicky reasons that completely miss the point of the film. For example, saying the ending makes no sense because the surviving kids will most likely get eaten. Or that the metaphor is too obvious.
@dependent-ability86314 ай бұрын
it's reddit they hate everything as long as other people say they hate it
@tallesttree48634 ай бұрын
@@Mopark25Those are fairly realistic nitpicks, and the fact you browse reddit to validate your own opinions says more about you than them.
@Cho0segoose4 ай бұрын
@@Mopark25 Well that's kinda the point, right? I thought the message of the film was that the system is flawed (capitalism/classism) but there's no good alternative. The system crashes and burns (the train) but the remaining survivors will likely die in the elements or from predators
@billwong5533 ай бұрын
Wilford would be very comfortable in Davos.
@Ghost-uc8gd5 ай бұрын
“We all have our Preordained Position.”
@powell2j9005 ай бұрын
Everybody has their preordained position….good quote. Do you really want to be the man on the rolls Royce?
@HighSpeedNoDrag4 ай бұрын
Predestination, True
@marcpedneault3362Ай бұрын
This movie is a mirrior of our future society wanted by the elites
@iceydicey7725 күн бұрын
Never knew i wanted a willi wonka sequel but this was pretty good
@EmonWBKstudios4 ай бұрын
Hey, this isn't the part where Captain America says Babies taste best.
@FlipFlopBillionaire4 ай бұрын
I never saw this scene from Westworld, what season is this?
@Jay-ky4ew2 ай бұрын
I have a few things to say. 1. No, this is not the best part. The best part is the revelation of the true meaning of the hand gesture. 2. Ed Harris is a wonderful actor, but he did not appear to give himself to this role completely. I imagine that Jeremy Irons would have fit the role a little better, with maybe Christopher Walken as a second choice. The audience needs to see the logic and clarity of thought in the master plan, but they also need to feel revulsion at the implications. Ed's approach is far too flat. We don't get the depravity we need for that from him here. 3. The script is tip-top. Couldn't be better. Absolute mastery on display here.
@DustinDonald-cz9ot23 күн бұрын
I think the flat delivery is what it is needed it shows him as totally emotionless and disconnected from it all and the use of cold logic, train space and food is limited therefore people must die. The man kills people and puts kids into passages who will likely die in there he doesn't do it out of malice or some sick derangement or sadistic want to inflict pain on others , just a necessary function to keep the train running which is his only concern. It is the survivors in the lifeboat dilemma the lifeboat has only a certain weight it can hold and only so many seats, take too many on it and you all die what can you do in such a situation? Only take as many as possible that is the logical choice it is seen as cold cause it forces people to drown and ultimately die there is no best scenario here cannot save everyone.
@pashamarki13706 күн бұрын
The entire movie built up the revulsion for the system, the end scene showed that the whole thing is part of the plan.
@Aries19905 ай бұрын
I don't see how peple can watch this movie and still say Chris Evans is a weak actor.
@HighSpeedNoDrag4 ай бұрын
"The World's population should not exceed 500,000,000" Georgia Guide Stones, Into Being (Circa) 1980.
@hambonesmithsonian8085Ай бұрын
Yeah those things aged like milk lmao
@Nasty-sauceАй бұрын
I base my beliefs on rocks too
@lord_scrubington7 күн бұрын
man is seriously apa citing some magic rocks
@christianzafiroglu67055 ай бұрын
Ed Harris’ way of holding utensils here is a detail I noticed after seeing him do a Western. In that one, he tore into the food. Meaty, muscular. Here he holds everything as though conducting the meal. It fits perfectly but he doesn’t draw attention to it. It just happens.
@drewan82 ай бұрын
This is a journey into the afterlife. Separated by cars and trials. Time and life. This will continue.
@lord_scrubington7 күн бұрын
the movie train feels like snowpiercer, while the series train feels more like icebreaker not a theory, just an observation
@Devo1987Ай бұрын
Good movie try watching is sometime
@cheekloins41266 күн бұрын
Curtis: Fuck this **kills all remaining humans**
@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo5 ай бұрын
The only thing you have to lose is your chains.
@lemonademan9878 күн бұрын
Except for your friends, and your family, and your food, and you house, and your water, and your life. But yeah, except for all those things, the only thing you have to lose is your chains.
@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo8 күн бұрын
@@lemonademan987 So we're equal with everyone else.
@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo8 күн бұрын
@@lemonademan987 At least you recognize the inherent violence of the system.
@Sebashtin3 ай бұрын
Snowpiercer, what a concept. Something you'll always seldom reminsce about.
@jcfra4205 ай бұрын
I have always hated the ending. Curtis could have taken over, and made changes. Spread the food etc. Instead, they decide to destroy the train, more than likely the rest of mankind. You know those kids were a polar bear snack.
@ContradictoryNature5 ай бұрын
That's the movie's point, though. If Curtis had taken over, the same brutal mechanisms that the train requires would result in him becoming another Wilford. Kids need to be taken to work the train: in an equal, just society, no one would be able to accept that. So Wilford/Curtis needs to create an underclass, a middle class to keep them in check, and the upperclass to direct things. The system on the train isn't broken: it's working exactly the way it was designed to. The only solution is to break the train.
@pyerack5 ай бұрын
He'd still have to rely on child labor through all of that. From there it would've just made a domino effect of one thing after another. It would just repeat the cycle. The message of the film is pretty nihilistic and cynical but I still find it very interesting.
@Rain-Incarnate5 ай бұрын
If those bears could survive, have a little faith that so could we.
@_MaZTeR_5 ай бұрын
I like how pretty much immediately in the show, the train gets hit by an avalanche that just destroyed the movie train and it barely even budges the show version.
@AP-dd3xp5 ай бұрын
You mean communism, instead of capitalism
@israrisrar38005 ай бұрын
Willy Wonka
@ambassador85244 ай бұрын
Whoa, it’s like the Matrix man but on a train 🤯
@danielmartin63865 ай бұрын
lol i thought this was some scene i didnt see from the series and i flipped shit XD but its the movie lol. also, for anyone who hasnt seen the series of snowpiercer. it is GREAT its kinda slow paced in the very begining but its a great story and i LOVE how they expanded on everything the movie offered.
@cardinal29215 ай бұрын
I liked the series better but maybe i am biased since its the first ive watched but as a prequel the series changed almost eveything about the movie like snow piercers size and design, the trains speed from 2.0++ revolutions (from what 1 remember) per year to 1 revolution per year, no guns on the train, wilfords ideology from total control to maintaining balance on the train. Maybe the series messed up the movies lore because of the many inconsistencies but i liked it better.
@taliyeth5 ай бұрын
@@cardinal2921 it should be noted both the movie and series is based on a French graphic novel from the 80s. Bong Joon-ho made a lot of changes so that it fits better as a movie.
@cardinal29215 ай бұрын
@@taliyeth ohhh i didnt know that. Thank you for the info.
@lord_scrubington7 күн бұрын
@@cardinal2921 lore wise, I don't think they are linked. that said, the graphic novel does have 2 "snowpiercers", and the ideas covered in their stories line up pretty well with the movie and series, assumign the movie takes place on the first, smaller, snowpiercer, and the series on its sister, Icebreaker
@keith39153 ай бұрын
Hot take, loved the movie, but still don't quite know if I loved Evans' performance.
@CadeLand0114 ай бұрын
Wow I wonder what the things the antagonist is talking about is a thematic parallel to.
@Natedawg383 ай бұрын
I really think marvel killed a lot of talent like poor chris
@wrequiem1727Ай бұрын
...what?
@SuperCrazyEstonian5 ай бұрын
Ah, yes, there was a very loud secret phone in the back of the train, and no one noticed.
@dependent-ability86314 ай бұрын
they didn't notice it on account of it not ringing until now keep up
@averageGoat_meh_eh_eh_eh3 ай бұрын
“Dear boy”
@coenmoon-id6rm5 ай бұрын
Not too different from the world that I am living …it just sugar coated here and there where things are covered just enough.
@pnut3844able5 ай бұрын
That's the analogy, its capitalism
@SWRDBRKR5 ай бұрын
That medium rare lookin more like med-well
@GaryKetchum8084 ай бұрын
Claude is wicced thicc
@Mkoivuka9 күн бұрын
This movie was so much better than the series, sadly.
@JT-gi8rx5 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t people have been better off underground? UV lamps to grow food. Warmth from the earth. Could be close to an oil deposit or natural gas for extra heat and for generators. You could have far more space that way, and potentially be able to tunnel and expand, if you had a system to throw dirt and rock back to the surface.
@theyoten16133 ай бұрын
Yes, and they almost certainly are. The only source we have on the train being the only shelter is Wilford.
@Grastiars15 ай бұрын
I still think this is a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory sequel
@Jarod-vg9wq4 ай бұрын
3,50 so what do you do if a track ahead is damaged and the train derails?
@lord_scrubington7 күн бұрын
we all freeze and die
@African_RoseАй бұрын
Crazy guy is the military industrial complex
@tomasa-m564312 күн бұрын
Malthusian philosophy, and a Marxist envisioning of the economy of the Train. The worldbuilding of this, well, world, is quite amazing. An excellent Dystopia
@JustSomeGoy5 ай бұрын
Is this the youngest cult classic movie?
@gustavgnoettgen5 ай бұрын
And on the other side of cinema... "Wonka".
@Raa1n5 ай бұрын
now scale it back up again, hell is nothing to this because to be in hell you have to be guilty.
@lukashawley21338 күн бұрын
What’s really uncomfortable is that if they planned to replace the front, they must of also have planned to replace the end too. Would make an interesting story for the “revolution” to be the front and back trading places over a cycle. It’s so interesting. That’s as Marxian as it gets.
@wtfdtreats5 ай бұрын
_"You will eat BUGS, own NOTHING and be HAPPY"_ - Sincerely, the *WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM*
@zaarkeru33915 ай бұрын
You (people) keep voting for the status quo. People still support the trickle down bs
@wlink6393 ай бұрын
But why are ze bugs still so goddamn expensive? I thought the point was that they would be cheaper.
@Cho0segoose4 ай бұрын
The only thing I don't understand is why the humans in the rear track were required for this system? Was it just to produce children for the engine?
@tarasrakya84143 ай бұрын
Without a fresh supply of workers the whole thing breaks apart. Something were going to see in the western world over the next few decades.
@TempestCrownАй бұрын
More to have destitutes that, if needed, could be sparked into revolution (like Wilson said was needed here.)
@heavyrain4e11222 күн бұрын
The thing that really bothered me about the whole idea of the train was that even if this balance had to be maintained why was the back basically just forced to languish? Some of them had jobs but most only had time to stew in their depression. If the back actually had something to work for they probably would of been more content
@fefnireindraer1445 ай бұрын
And what does the 'hero' do? kills everyone. derails the train in the middle of nothing, with polar bears ready to eat everyone that survived. GG hero, GG.
@bovineintervention2765 ай бұрын
That's better than condemning everyone to a life in prison while he eats steaks and has kids for slaves.
@ug50355 ай бұрын
Say you’re from Reddit without saying you’re from Reddit
@S.D.3233 ай бұрын
@@bovineintervention276 eh thats debatable neither are good ideas
@lord_scrubington7 күн бұрын
did you watch the film? are you sure you knew who the "hero" was? I advise you watch it again
@conn_man_2494 ай бұрын
Does no one talk about that Gilliam was a traitor this whole time?
@lord_scrubington7 күн бұрын
hes kinda an anti-traitor tbh he and wilfred had a very specific plan, and it did involve Curtis becoming the leader of the train through his revolution. and Curtis came damn close to going along with all of it
@BlackHack-nx3pp5 ай бұрын
Closed echosystem rly got on my nerves 😭
@jackofblades31715 ай бұрын
The caboose was lucky they didn't just get disconnected
@JS-bc5my5 ай бұрын
They’d be running into it a year later on the track
@lord_scrubington7 күн бұрын
@@JS-bc5my icebreaker moment
@jacobrudniski392713 күн бұрын
This is what happens when Willy Wonkas fridge door gets left ooen
@Laserfish179 күн бұрын
Ohhhh so the train is our planet and the dinner guy is the governments.
@thatguy76835 ай бұрын
He reminds me of Dr Trager from Outlast
@jannis11Ай бұрын
NIce
@kuraito13463 ай бұрын
All those people came from the party room and they were all pissed off because they took their Kronal drugs.