So...I Guess Tinker Bell Is CANCELLED NOW!?!?!
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Күн бұрынTinker Bell is (probably) one of the top 5 most iconic Disney characters. And despite how much people love her, thanks to a very vocal minority, the Tink we love might be on her way out. Is it even possible to CANCEL Tinker Bell? Let's see what nonsense our friends at Disney are cooking!
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00:00 Good Ol' Reliable Disney
01:27 Is Tinker Bell BANISHED From Disney?!?!
04:01 The Claims Against Tink
05:07 Let's Start With Her Personality
09:10 Body Issues
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@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
I MADE A FOLLOW-UP VIDEO TO ADDRESS SOME STUFF. Please watch it because I want to make sure that you guys don't freak out over this! Thank you
@Lilybelle-vr3ho Ай бұрын
Why cant we have RELATABLE characters with REAL flaws? 😭 so many girls might relate to tinker bell's jealousy, temper, body, etc. Theyre all about representation and yet they censor and cancel characters that represent qualities real people ACTUALLY have. This makes me so sad....
@zanir2387 Ай бұрын
I think the problem is that in barrie's Books she had some of a psicopathic treak because she tried to trick the lost childre into kill wendy
@prufan Ай бұрын
@@zanir2387 That's a character flaw that almost every single version of Tinkerbell has.
@nikkifaz1544 Ай бұрын
I always saw tinker bell as a role model growing up, because I related to her so much, I don't want them to change her.
@michelleschrock9141 Ай бұрын
I hate that most characters are Mary Sue's. I want to see character growth and relatable characters who you can see yourself in it.
@blindside3233 Ай бұрын
"Why cant we have RELATABLE characters with REAL flaws?" Because that would make them human! Can't have that 😑
@MikeFireheart Ай бұрын
Tinkerbell's jealousy was never glorified and she actively gets captured due to it. It's why in the sequel she gets more mellow and develops a cute friendship with Wendy's daughter. Plus she's based on European fairies, who are notorious tricksters that are territorial of their property.
@haven_lady675 Ай бұрын
Actually fairy depictions similar to Tinkerbell's are one of the billion depictions of what a fairy looks like. Most European fairies dont look pretty or have wings. Some can be down right terrifying. The dullahan of Irish folklore, for example, is a fairy. Sure it looks like a headless horseman riding a headless horse while whipping a human spine but its a type of fairy. Just not the Tinkerbell type. Actually fairies can go in tagent with beings such as elves, trolls, goblins, nymphs and even mermaids.
@MikeFireheart Ай бұрын
@@haven_lady675 That's true as there's many different versions of fairies and creatures similar to fairies. My personal favorite fairies or fae are from Irish folklore as you mentioned. Leprechauns and the Dark Fairy Queen are ones that I find fascinating. Though Tinkerbell is based on the description from the original writer of Peter Pan, so he clearly was drawing inspiration from a specific type of possessive yet beautiful fairy.
@o-that1raven-o Ай бұрын
I thought that they were prequels cause they met a younger captain hook in one of them
@MikeFireheart Ай бұрын
@@o-that1raven-o Well the Tinkerbell movies are the prequels as the pirate fairy is when Tinkerbell and her fairy friends first meet Captain Hook. I think he was supposed to be like early twenties in that one.
@Wendeta-hq2cp Ай бұрын
Poor Tinkerbell. Her body type is not even "problematic"! She actually was a bit sassy in terms of personality too, which I always found hilarious! I hope this situation does not get worse. Cute art! 🛠
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@zanir2387 Ай бұрын
I think the problem is that in barrie's Books she had some of a psicopathic treak because she tried to trick the lost childre into kill wendy
@Wendeta-hq2cp Ай бұрын
@@zanir2387 Yeah but that's the book. Disney version is not completely accurate. Besides who even read the book (besides maybe me and people that are interested in the source material).
@MiscNmatch Ай бұрын
@@zanir2387Not to mention she is described as curvy in the novel.
@lagopusvulpuz1571 Ай бұрын
Fairies are often drawn very curvy in different media like comics and animated shows. Women are normally curvy. I don't see the issue. About her behavior even in her movie, Tinkerbell has anger issues or a strong temperament at the point she gets red like a tomato, but Disney's design is so iconic.
@123emilymason Ай бұрын
Tinker Bell didn't deserve this
@SkookieCat_Arts Ай бұрын
“TiNkeRbeLL hAs an UnrEaLisTic boDy aNd thAt’ll dAmAGe yOUng giRls” I LOVE TINK. She never gave me any self image issues, I didn’t even think about that as a little girl. Side note, in the original book Tink was referred to as “Embonpoint” which is a French word that means “people of heavy, but not unattractive, girth” and that had me cackling.
@naolucillerandom5280 Ай бұрын
Stop it, I have been trying to get that one clip of Athena saying embonpoint out of my head for days!
@SkookieCat_Arts Ай бұрын
@@naolucillerandom5280 Omg ikr 😭
@BlinkArmy4 Ай бұрын
Wow I didn’t think my body type was unrealistic 😂 I have a curvy body, people have different body types that’s normal. I’m starting to think they are doing this on purpose. Edit: I had so many mistakes 😅
@SkookieCat_Arts Ай бұрын
@@BlinkArmy4 oh… well I guess you’re not real.
@BlinkArmy4 Ай бұрын
@@SkookieCat_Arts No I’m real 😅 idk what I wrote or why it had so many mistakes.
@grimoiremaleficarum7378 Ай бұрын
The overcorrection needs to stop. I genuinely think that modern writers don't want to write characters but rather actions. Good guys do good things. Bad guys do bad things. No characterization. They're not people, just toys to play with as they please. Anyone that acted like a person is considered problematic as a result. To keep to topic, compare the Tinkerbells.🛠 The original felt like a person, albeit a rather explosive one. The Pixie Hollow one felt mellowed out, but could make mistakes and needed others to help her. The live action one was just... there. It's not just Disney, but they're definitely the easiest to see at a glance.
@nevaehhamilton3493 Ай бұрын
If people didn't consider Disney a lost cause when Wish came out, then they should now!
@sirducksworthythe3rd842 Ай бұрын
Wish was good movie over all
@secretsuperstars1153 Ай бұрын
@@sirducksworthythe3rd842 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DragonGoddess18 Ай бұрын
@nevaehhamilton3493 Yeah That movie was just nothing but a thousand and one Easter eggs,bad songwriting and other mistakes that were stupid
@OctavioGaitan Ай бұрын
I started considering Disney a lost cause right during the peak of the pandemic. Instead of giving us content that would take our minds off of what was happening at the time, they gave us content that made us all want to puke out all our vital organs. I've been a fan of Disney ever since my mother introduced me to Disney as a baby, but now, after what Disney has been doing as of recent, no more. Curse you, Disney!
@bavard100 Ай бұрын
@@OctavioGaitanI saw Disney a lost course since 2016 when they were doing live action remake of the animations. It’s a big disrespect to the original animation as an animator pov. Basically saying ‘animation for kids’ lots of cuts towards the animation departments. I haven’t seen wish but what I’ve heard they fire animators who were working on the original concept and bought in fricken activist. I just can’t stand them anymore. I stop watching their animations (besides few Pixar films elemental and inside out 2 was the only good films lately).
@WarmTunbin1 Ай бұрын
🛠️ I grew up on the tinker bell movies watching them with my sister, while I’m not a young girl, I never thought about body image while watching and my sister didn’t either. It’s painful to see what Disney is doing but this is sadly expected now.
@haruu_123 Ай бұрын
I am a young girl and I also watch a lot of movies on it, I never thought of body issues furies it, I thought out tinker bell and her fairy friends having fun and changing bad things
@risaswonderland Ай бұрын
That's so sad. Tinkerbell used to be a Disney icon she was even the face of Disney so to speak in the 2000's. I remember her "flying" to the Disneyland castle and being featured in the Disney fastplay on DVD's.
@area52ron Ай бұрын
Fun fact Aurora from the animated movie her body design was based on a real woman
@FelicityUwU Ай бұрын
So were Snow white and Cinderella I believe. They at least hired women to be filmed as reference footage for all three of those movies. It was an essential part of Walt Disney's process for creating "the illusion of life" as he called it, and avoiding the rubber looking limbs that many cartoon characters like Betty Book had before then. But it could be argued that they might not have stuck close to the reference. But with how they look I severely doubt they changed much.
@area52ron Ай бұрын
@@FelicityUwU yeah
@2doot Ай бұрын
Tinkerbell was as well, that's the goofiest shit about this. They used live action ref for her. God forbid that an ANIMATED CHARACTER exaggerates those proportions a bit for stylistic purposes lmfaoo.
@laraprisma6381 Ай бұрын
Disney doesn't even make Tinker Bell look like he does in the Peter Pan films in the parks! She's more like how she is in Pixie Hollow, curious, sassy, dreamy and creative! Reasons why I like her! I grew up watching her films, and I've always loved how determined and curious she is!
@Ninja52157 Ай бұрын
I say that what Disney is doing is ridiculous and hypocritical. Face it Disney, you’re not going to please everyone by doing this. You’ll only make things worse, so get use to it.
@DragonGoddess18 Ай бұрын
As the saying goes, "When you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one. Including yourself."
@Theawesomeninja_XD Ай бұрын
@@DragonGoddess18 That saying fits perfectly in this case
@sarahtelles1931 Ай бұрын
Fairies are so small they can only have one emotion at a time
@RaptorofRex07 Ай бұрын
At this rate Disney is gonna end up like Indigo Park. If they want to cancel something problematic how the Live Action Mulan
@bella_daze3092 Ай бұрын
Dude for real😭😭😭😭
@PotatoPlaysThePotatoQueen Ай бұрын
I swear companies are SO cowardly and afraid of stuff like this when it comes to "unrealistic body types", first Monster High, then Pokémon GO, and now THIS... Why is this the new meta, to be "inclusive" by EXCLUDING certain body types for "lack of realism" -_- Seems unfair to me.
@sissysovereign1294 Ай бұрын
It really does feel unfair! The fact that so many people GROWN ADULTS AT THAT bitch about how cute fictional women/girls have unrealistic body types, but they need to realize that is FANTASY!
@Romancenovellover Ай бұрын
What angers me the most is modern audiences doesn't have a issue with tinker bell, they made up these issues then put "for gen z" on it when nobody had a problem
@humblearts-3115 Ай бұрын
This whole "let's change the character to satisfy modern audiences" thing makes me think back to the situation with Ariel meeting a mute mermaid comes to mind. Everyone loved that. We already loved Ariel, and now there also was another mermaid character to love. That route is twice the fun for fans and also more profitable to corporations (because more merch, yay!). I don't know where the idea comes from that only already popular characters can be used to bring about awareness and diversity. Excecutives forget the influencal power these characters hold. Changing the character is likely to push away the fans and hurt their cause, but using that character to direct the audience's attention to a new character has high chances of success. If Disney cares so much about body issues, they should have Tinker Bell interact with fairies of various body types, or have her gain a little weight and show her friends' various responses to it and give a little lesson about what's appropriate and what's not when discussing other people's bodies and your own. It's really not that hard. But my guess is that it's cheaper to redesign one character model than to design 10 different ones for a show (still, Disney, think of the merch!)
@sparxmaiden841 Ай бұрын
Let's all show Fairy Mary a little respect here. Girl was awesome!
@jenmiranda13 Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's not THAT hard to have new characters. This also applies to Gen 3 of Monster High. I don't have problems with changing the body types, I do have a problem with them changing the personalities of the characters tho. There were already a bunch of ethnic characters in G1 so they didn't need to change the main cast at all. They literally could have focused on the side characters like Howleen, Skelita, Rochelle, etc. Or maybe Spectra and Porter. Like I've always wondered what else the ghost world had to offer
@jonelrobinson7432 Ай бұрын
@@sparxmaiden841 Yes! Fairy Mary is iconic!
@ruelie Ай бұрын
No little girl is going to be like "tinker bell's body looks different than mine.. why cant i look more like the tiny fairy from neverland!!!"
@cartoonloverzxc3237 Ай бұрын
Modern Disney sucks. Tinker Bell is not problematic. I never see her as a villain. She’s very beautiful and most of all she’s a cartoon character. She’s not even real you people should not get offended by a cartoon drawling. There’s more important things going on in life over analyzing something that doesn’t really exist in reality.
@Chameleonred5 Ай бұрын
No one's offended about a cartoon drawing. Tinker Bell is an idea expressed through that medium. Ideas can be worth getting offended about.
@kerisaltchannel3817 Ай бұрын
It’s not that she’s a cartoon character, it’s that she’s NOT AN OFFENSIVE CHARACTER. unlike *others*
@kerisaltchannel3817 Ай бұрын
@@Chameleonred5exactly
@sirensong237 Ай бұрын
They do this with all their characters.. it’s not “cancel culture”, it’s just retirement.. a character loses popularity, so they get shelved.. Tink was already fading out, so they tried to rewrite her through the Pixie Hollow franchise, and even that only lasted for a short while..
@Chameleonred5 16 күн бұрын
@@sirensong237 Is that what they're saying? The reason they're actually giving?
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
Just in case you guys missed the captions throughout the video, I never noticed how Tink and her friends have big heads lol That is honestly the most unrealistic thing about their bodies (other than the fairy features of long pointy ears and wings). Her body itself really isn't problematic at all~
@erikbihari3625 Ай бұрын
You think Disney deams her"problematic", because"that"one scene, where she self conciously checked, how mutch"junk the trunk"had? Personally just don't buying.
@QuietStorm44777 Ай бұрын
Lol I did see that caption! And yeah I can't think of any other differences between the normal human anatomy and pixies/🧚♂️
@Ninja52157 Ай бұрын
Agreed. If a vocal minority is wanting me to change how I draw characters, I’ll respond by saying, “Guys, it’s my style. And no comment from any vocal minority is gonna make me change how I draw characters.” Other than that, the best thing we can do is to just ignore these type of people.
@multifandomfangirl9664 Ай бұрын
🛠️ I never saw her as problematic character, i feel some people can be too sensitive at times.
@abby-cadabby Ай бұрын
So basically, they pulled the Barbie body image thing on Tink? Also, I remember when I was a teen that there was originally going to be a Tinkerbell movie (I think live action?) and she was going to be played by the legally blonde girl. Unfortunately, since the live action Peter Pan and Wendy movie happened, they had scrapped the original idea and are now doing the Tinkerbell movie based on the live action Peter Pan movie. Granted £ don't care for the modern live action movies all that much, but still, it just pisses me off 😤
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
WHAT. They are making a movie about the bland Tinkerbell from the LA movie?! NOOOO 😭
@rocky.rocks1445 Ай бұрын
Problematic role model? She's a character who wants attention 24/7, literally almost everyone is like her. If she's the character that's problematic, Disney has seriously got a problem.
@darkfireumbreon9516 Ай бұрын
Did they forget they already have Fairy Mary, Fairy Gary, The Minister of Summer, and Clank? They also added Iridessa to include a black character in the main cast. They literally have representation and they could just add more instead of changing existing characters.
@joeskys2362 Ай бұрын
I think your right. Disney should stop over correcting, because people will never get tired. Of seeing skinny girls with big booties. So instead of trying to bury those characters that look like that. Just create new characters with realistic body proportions. That are just as popular. Disney fans will crave. What ever Disney dishes out. As long as its high quality .
@idyllicaxiom2818 Ай бұрын
All different body types are valid and realistic (except for plastic surgery ones ofc) but some girls naturally have skinny with big booty proportions (not me but Ik ppl who do)
@joeskys2362 Ай бұрын
@@idyllicaxiom2818 I find it hard to believe that you know girls as skinny as Tinker bell. With a booty that big. Especially if there white. Since even professional actress's in Disney theme parks are still beautiful, but aren't cartoonishly slim. Not that it matters. Me personally though. I like em THICK!🥰
@chocolate_strawberriez Ай бұрын
@@joeskys2362 It definitely happens and exists, especially because women are usually curvier
@fusetunes Ай бұрын
hi, i got this video in my recommended and just wanted to say the middle part of this isn’t exactly true. i appreciate you correcting the misinformation about her park appearances- snopes has a great article about everything else (though they’re not perfect and neither is disney, obviously). her wdw meet and greet just seems to never have been reinstated after the pandemic reopening, which happened to a lot of entertainment offerings and is likely not specific to her, nor was it a recent thing. i think all they’ve done lately is just remove further signage mentioning her from that area since she hasn’t been there for a few years now, and reports on that were then warped by clickbait/misinformation into this whole issue. also, the quote from the disney employee talking about her being ‘problematic’ is false (there are obvious grammar mistakes in it and there’s no confirmed source other than someone just posting a quote saying ‘disney rep’). disney has confirmed this themselves. like you said, she’s still a huge presence and doesn’t seem to be going anywhere, except where the park-wide budget cuts are concerned. thank you for reading all this!! i’m a huge parks person so i just wanted to make sure everyone has the proper info so we can critique them based on confirmed stuff like starcruiser instead, haha
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the info! I knew the lack of Tink at meet and greets wasn't that huge of a deal and figured it was something mundane and nothing malicious towards Tink. It was honestly the quote that bothered me the most because I 100% can see someone at Disney saying that. But I also acknowledged that there was a chance that a Disney Rep didn't actually say that which was why I said they "allegedly" said that. Although, that tweet wasn't the only evidence I found that someone at Disney sees Tink as problematic (it's in one of those links I included in the description). Regardless, I'd like to think that, yes, Tink is too popular for them to try to mess her up (further. Since, ya know, her depiction in Peter Pan and Wendy was awful). Let's hope OG Tink stays right where she is! Thanks again!
@fusetunes Ай бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubellno problem! these things spread around so fast that it’s hard to track them down and i think everyone believes them at first. when i saw this pop up, i did too and only looked it up cause i hadn’t heard of any reports on it from park circles yet. i definitely think tink is like mickey where even if she comes under scrutiny, she’ll stick around in some way because she’s just too much of a brand icon and it would be more profitable to keep her, maybe with another ‘reboot’ series at most. also i totally agree with you, the live action remakes seem to get everything wrong about why people love these characters. not to mention the fact that them existing is kind of insulting to animation in the first place! i wish they would take all the money they invest in those and put them back into the parks 😭
@JT5555 Ай бұрын
oh,thank god. i've been pretty understanding about disney's recent attempts to be "inclusive" but calling TINK of all people "problematic" crosses the line and i would not be a happy camper if they got rid of her or messed with her outside of just another bad live-action remake. they already canceled her franchise,they're not allowed to cancel HER as well.>:T
@fusetunes Ай бұрын
@user-li2yv5je5e??? i’m not a disney pr person, i have my own problems with them like everyone else. i don’t know why i would be trying to cover up anything. i just think we don’t need to criticize them based on false information, which that quote is, and with a portion of the video specifically covering it i wanted to point it out. yes, there is still confirmed news of tink being a ‘cautioned’ character, but this was back in 2019 and obviously they haven’t done anything major with her since then aside from being in that crappy straight to streaming live action remake, which never impacted her original characterization in the parks anyway, so i don’t see why it’s become such a big deal. people are trying to make this into something more so they can point the ‘woke’ finger at disney when if you’re someone who knows the parks, a meet and greet still not coming back in 2024 doesn’t even seem like news at all. signage changes and scalebacks are just another day at this point. how does them keeping one meet and greet closed in one park mean she’s being ‘cancelled’ and ‘fixed’ if, like this video also says, she still has her own dedicated area in disneyland, still flies over the castle after fireworks, still has merch and parade appearances, etc.? the citizens of hollywood streetmosphere performers also never returned to the hollywood studios park after reopenings. does that mean disney thinks they’re problematic? or do they just not want to spend any more money on an entertainment department that has clearly been majorly scaled back since 2020?
@Synark25 Ай бұрын
15:05 not even joking, this is literally my body type and I'm younger than that. It's genuinely upsetting to see how many people say that body types like these are unrealistic when people with them do exist
@BlinkArmy4 Ай бұрын
Yup!! This is my body type too! I’m actually more curvy than this.
@Synark25 Ай бұрын
@@mmecharlotte I will say I've never been big on Disney stuff, but regardless the "Women being told how to look" issue is widespread not just in the aspect of being ashamed of not looking 'pretty enough', but also of being told we *have* to objectify our bodies if we're 'pretty enough'. In a way, it's kind of ironic how media has been moving away from representation by pushing representation so hard that we can't have healthy, traditionally pretty woman characters without them being labelled problematic.
@OctavioGaitan Ай бұрын
It's ridiculous; Disney is ruining everything that made them a household name. >:(
@someguy4253 Ай бұрын
I really hate the word “problematic.” If a fictional character is “problematic” to someone then they have issues.
@2doot Ай бұрын
It's genuinely the most chronically online shit I've ever heard and I'm embarrassed by the constant misuse of the word.
@jamiesdolliverse Ай бұрын
Let’s not forget that Tinkerbell is getting her very own ride at Tokyo Disney!
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
Oh! that's cool ^0^
@scardycat4462 Ай бұрын
I honestly grew up with the tinkerbelle movies and I believe it would make many children sad, since she's a fairy in a magical kingdom and you can't interact with her? I think it would broke their hearts.
@alishanightshade3270 Ай бұрын
Tinkerbell is a role model? Why she needs to be a role model? Its weird that the US audience are obsessed with overcorrection. Did they not learn how to think independently and use their skills to see which character can be a role model as a child? Disney characters nowadays are forgive, regret, apologize, misunderstand. This is more unrealistic. Don't defend people who are bad. Don't cover up flaws when everyone have a lot of it.
@SapphireAmethyst- Ай бұрын
I may be liberal, but not to the point I’m canceling everything for no reason
@lantearia Ай бұрын
As someone who had to get a breast reduction because I had a natural H cup, scoliosis, and arthritis, yes, those bodies DO exist naturally. And not just that, censoring negative traits, which are seen IN THE MEDIA AS NEGATIVE TRAITS in a non-villain character, teaches children a VALUABLE lesson. "Even the good guys can have flaws." It's good they're not censoring her *completely,* but, censoring her *at all* just creates a world of problems. I'm LGBTQIA+, and honestly, tired of overcorrection. Especially since it's "done for [insert community here]" without ever SPEAKING to the community or thinking about HOW it'll affect the communities.
@MikeFireheart Ай бұрын
I think it's funny that Tinkerbell is supposedly problematic, yet they still raceswapped her into essentially a submissive black girl who has Wendy speak for her in the reboot. Honestly, Tinkerbell's temper and jealousy was relatable, since we've all had those emotions, so stripping her of them and now low key removing her from an attraction is eye rolling.
@jonelrobinson7432 Ай бұрын
Exactly! If they wanted a black fairy, Iridessa is right there
@MikeFireheart Ай бұрын
@@jonelrobinson7432 Very true and her being a sunlight fairy is a missed opportunity, since they could've easily delved into her backstory instead. Though that would require them to use original and unique characters, instead of raceswapping the more well known characters.
@Filmrot-ml2cg Ай бұрын
🛠 This change is honestly kind of hypocritical if you think about it, considering that there are other disney characters of different body types, and like you mentioned, the villains that walk around the park still.
@StealthyPumpkin Ай бұрын
🛠Fixing, fixing, fixing, always fixing. I fail to see the logic here. It's attitudes like that that make designing characters a bit of a challenge for me at times. Constantly trying to appease everyone and follow all the rules, leaves me with an empty canvas and annoyance. Sorry about the weird pome thing above. Not entirely sure where that came from, lol. I agree with you on the whole changing pre existing characters thing. The more we work towards changing things for "Modern audiences." The more we avoid being genuine and honest with our work. I noticed that you're experimenting more with your editing. It looks good. Keep it up! 🙂
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's ridiculous how careful you have to be if you plan on sharing creative stuff. Too much overcorrecting in general DX The reality is that not as many people are offended by stuff as media seems to think. It really is just a VERY vocal minority who gets upset. It's a shame =( But thank you so much for watching
@StealthyPumpkin Ай бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell Preach it! Happy to watch
@erikbihari3625 Ай бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell. Exactly, preach"sister"! We're desperately need assistance from guys like weird and mel brooks!
@Ninja52157 Ай бұрын
As for someone who’s planning on doing animation, I get that. People are trying to do their own style and leave their mark. The best thing we can do is just ignore that very small vocal minority. If I had to respond to that small group, I’ll say, “I understand your criticism, but it’s my style guys, and no vocal minority is gonna make me change how I draw characters.”
@foxpokemonforever4775 Ай бұрын
Tinkerbell is a Disney icon, she’s a mascot almost as much as Mickey Mouse is! I hope they come to their senses and bring back meet and greets for her in WDW. My family got to go see her twice when visiting Disney Parks, and she was absolutely lovely. The Disney fairies were my favourite face characters when I was little, and they’re still close to my heart. Removing Tink just because of her role in the original movie she appeared in is concerning. I’m afraid they’ll completely sand away anything that made me love her in the first place. I had a temper when I was little, and she was a relatable character for me! And it’s not up to DISNEY to parent people’s kids for them. If kids are imitating Tinkerbell’s less admirable personality traits, it’s up to the PARENTS to correct that. It’s not Disney’s job to sanitize their characters and remove any nuance. Free my girl, Disney! 🛠️
@fairymystonight1783 Ай бұрын
I’m already sad that they stopped making the TinkerBell movies I wanted to see her meet Peter Pan and see more of her with Terrance 😭
@tailsprowerfan2729 Ай бұрын
Disney is no longer Disney
@JayRedGear Ай бұрын
🛠 FFS. I'm not really that surprised modern design would do this but it doesn't make it any less annoying and dumb. Why is it so hard to accept that "fixing" these already established, well-loved characters is only going to tick people off and alienate potential fans? Not everything needs to follow the "this [insert character] needs to be more like me!" approach.
@Ninja52157 Ай бұрын
I mean yeah. If a vocal minority group is wanting me to change my designs because they are ‘problematic’, I’ll say, “Guys, it’s my style, and no comment from any vocal minority is gonna force me to change how I draw characters.” It may sound rude, but it’s true. Hopefully, it won’t come to that.
@JayRedGear Ай бұрын
@@Ninja52157 Yeah. I don't make art hoping to please these groups of people who take offense to nothing and act like what I make is "problematic" just because they don't like it.
@emmablack1230 Ай бұрын
That one emotion thing was directly said in the book
@bluyellow9787 Ай бұрын
Disney be like: Why don't you fall... Fall little Tinker Bell fall...
@user-fm4ip7lo8u Ай бұрын
Eyy, Lydia the Bard reference!!
@mysterykiddo2167 Ай бұрын
There are some things out there that don't need to be fixed, Tinker Bell is one of them
@starjkurage Ай бұрын
We need to stop worrying about things being "problematic" because the general public doesn't care, representation should be secondary to good stories instead of shitty rehashes
@GrimSawyer52 Ай бұрын
Do they not realize that fairies in mythology and fantasy are neither good or evil? It is not out of the realm for Tinkerbell to be jealous and vindictive because she's a person despite being a whimsical magical brat(no offense, her behavior just reminds of a VERY bratty child). Tinkerbell is a chaotic neutral character.
@munkustrapjr2574 Ай бұрын
No, no, this can't be! Let Tink stay with Disney! She's an iconic character and one of my favorite fairies! Disney would fall apart without her!
@MagicSpectrum Ай бұрын
Why does everything have to be Political these days?!
@dvalinm Ай бұрын
Ikr everything can be political, but doesn't need to
@MagicSpectrum Ай бұрын
Have you heard of the Virtual Celebrity? She has a video that, I think, covers this topic quite well.
@candicraveingcloude2822 Ай бұрын
Because it usually involves the people in power and how they can change our world because laws. Hate to say it but usually if you work hard enough you will find a link to politics even if indirectly;
@Luv_My_StarBarries Ай бұрын
WHAT!? ARE KIDDING ME!? Tinker Bell doesn’t deserve this!?
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
Fortunately, it's just an alleged quote from a Disney Rep, so there's a chance it's not true! Let's hope that's the case!
@DragonGoddess18 Ай бұрын
What? I don't know what Disney is thinking (aside from "Money,money,MONEY!") Tinkerbell isn't problematic, she's a flawed character. Considering the Tinkerbell movies, it shows more than once that she's decent and a good friend. Did she make mistakes? Yes. Did she work to make up for it? Also yes
@sarahtelles1931 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, Disney Villains have done way worse, heck with Maleficent, aside from attempted regicide because she wasn't invited to the child's christening, In Twisted Wonderland you find out she promised to have dinner with her toddler at the time grandson, but decided not to show without warning, in which our poor baby threw a fit and froze everyone if Lillia, didn't show up and fix everything that could have been a worse disaster for those Faes and their families
@candicraveingcloude2822 Ай бұрын
When I first heard tinkerbell was cut from meet and greets the first things I thought of was: 1. unrealistic beauty standards 2. Somehow inaccurate depiction of the fae folk because they aren't always good and instead often trick other people and you need to know exactly what they mean or else you're stuck forever and kidnapped. 3. Both things combined (Or something like the options I listed) not surprised
@Hypagemie Ай бұрын
Sick and tired of how the world apparently revolves around “protecting the children” 🤢🙄
@fatimahanwaar306 Ай бұрын
true
@ryxan6968 Ай бұрын
At times it feels like: The only bodytyp modern Hollywood/ Disney excapts are non-binary or 200kg without moving.
@matchamochi781 Ай бұрын
If women characters have flaws they are problematic. But little boys are allowed to like iron man just fine. The double standard is so warped. If women aren’t portrayed perfect they’re problematic.
@a.t.trujillo9970 Ай бұрын
I get it Tinkerbell try to kill Wendy but do you have characters that have killed people who are in the Disney parks and in their games
@awkwarddrawings Ай бұрын
I couldn’t believe it when I heard the news, she’s practically one of the faces of Disney world
@emmageyman8621 Ай бұрын
What the actual fu.....noo! Tink was my childhood! 😭
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
I don't think Disney is actually foolish enough to go through with this. Like I said in the video, that quote is from an "alleged" Disney Rep, so hopefully it'll never happen!
@emmageyman8621 Ай бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell let's hope for the best and keep our fingers crossed 🤞
@tasmeenbaker9912 29 күн бұрын
Tinkerbell never made me act bad as a kid, if anything she made me wanna be more crafty.
@ryleybrooks4321 Ай бұрын
I have tinkerbells body type 😭😭 I was waiting for you to bring that up
@SapphireAmethyst- Ай бұрын
The fuck? I loved the Tinkerbell movies as a kid, so this breaks my heart. I swear Disney thinks every woman character has a “problematic body type” since they’re getting rid of Tink.
@rethaf4387 Ай бұрын
"Tinkerbell, unfortunately, has become an problematic image for our guests... in portrayal of an unrealistic body image as well as dependency of approval and/ or attention from Peter Pan... We feel these traits are no longer representative of our inclusive focused values..." Here is the thing: If you are trying to be inclusive, the fact that many girls do hanker after male approval is a truth to include. And the girls who do so should also be included. Maybe, we could tell stories in such a way as to show this hankering isn't wise, but it still is a truth to recon with. This is also where Hollywood wokeism differ from the actual feminism which got women the vote and the right to have their own bank account: Hollywood wokeness try to tell stories as if women always do the same things men does. Actual feminists try to work against oppression in a world where many girls and women do what Tinkerbell does.
@thehedgehoggamer8471 Ай бұрын
I grew up with a sister she loved tinker bell and she never had body issues =_=
@user-sortaopinionated Ай бұрын
I loved this video! Thank you so much it’s nice to hear and see someone make a video that I can fully relate with as well as agree. ❤
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
I'm so glad! Thank you
@user-sortaopinionated Ай бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell ♥️♥️♥️
@DJViviMIX Ай бұрын
Tinker Bell is the Opening Girl from Disney. When the Logo appears she sparkle the Disney Logo with her fairy dust.
@mintyaquagreen1675 Ай бұрын
You know, getting rid of the characters or making or placing these types of restrictions on the characters who played their part in making Disney famous shows that the people in charge here are carefree with the company, will continue to put certain things to waste, and they don't value the hard work and dedication Walt Disney and the people who putting the work to make this company known globally. A pity it's come to this. And an even bigger pity this will escalate further.
@Chub624 Ай бұрын
Atleast with those tinkerbell movies tink was still a flawed character and made mistakes and she even had her moments were her face would go red with rage which was cute. Unlike the new live action those movies were actually good and fun to watch as a kid and I still have a soft spot for them. Also I relate to where you said that you would avoid a cartoon if the art style is just not appealing to you, it's the same with me. Also if disney really has this mindset that female characters like Tink are problematic then it dosen't make me hopeful for any of their upcoming female protagonist movies in the future.
@dcscruz2970 Ай бұрын
Those who complain of tinker are those who creep on people. Aka self project. She had her own movies and she was amazing
@rosymaze Ай бұрын
I can understand the body image thing. When I was younger and saw how wonderful she looked AND heard the fact that she (along with a few early Disney princesses) were based on a real life woman I compared my body to hers a lot and met a whole group of girls that felt the same way. Thankfully, the later versions of Tink look more achievable. This is actually how I heard about that young cosplayer that starved herself to look more like the princesses. It’s unfortunate but it does happen.
@livs8033 Ай бұрын
I actually did this with the characters from ferngully and then again with the swan princess. So beautiful, wanted to be just like her.
@Rainybasket Ай бұрын
Some girls have big hips how is that unrealistic
@jayelynphilip8997 Ай бұрын
I’ve seen this trend of “realistic bodies” quite a bit, but it’s honestly just having the opposite be the new unrealistically skinny. Engaging in harmful physical behaviors so you can achieve a thin body that can cause serious health issues is bad. Engaging in harmful physical behaviors so you become much larger that can cause serious health issues is also bad. Both extremes are not healthy. There are some people that are naturally thinner and some people that are naturally thicker; and as you said healthy can look different for each person. I can at least see the argument that everyone in a series drawn with the same proportions can be harmful as it could be seen as the expected, but at the same time, it could simply be style, or easier to animate, or just fiction. Also, yes, I believe in the original Peter Pan book, the pixies/fairies could only experience one emotion at a time due to their small form. So when Tink felt jealousy or anger, that’s all she could physically handle and feel at that time. I haven’t seen the animated movie in years, but I don’t think it was as obvious of a trait in it and that’s why it seemed so extreme without a proper explanation. could be wrong, again it’s been a while. 🛠
@IsabellaMathew Ай бұрын
This is stupid even as someone who really hate her character.
@IsabellaMathew Ай бұрын
With say hate Peter more because of selfish of character he is.
@Ozzygirl17 Ай бұрын
My mom and I agree that people tend to be overdramatic whenever Disney does something controversial; it’s like, “So?”. Not about the major stuff. Things like plot holes, and problematic characters. As a matter of fact, Dumbo’s pink elephant sequence didn’t phase me as a kid, and I don’t drink at all (33 as of posting this). While she’s not my favorite character, Tinkerbell has a right to remain as she is depicted in role in “Peter Pan” and “Peter Pan: Return to Neverland”. Honestly, while not in the role of protagonist, Disney had already did have women who were no so skinny but did have a positive role: the Three Good Fairies from “Sleeping Beauty” back in 1959, as well as the Fairy Godmother in “Cinderella” in 1950. I know other problems are there, but they aren’t overly exaggerated.
@kawaiilice Ай бұрын
i don't care about representation too, but i don't like over-sexualized bodies tho, like in animes. but as long as the series/movies don't say something like " you should look healthy and skinny and beautiful for the society" i don't care. i do have fatphobia ptsd, especialy the "get skinny" stuff, so it can be hard for me to enjoy media in general
@666helluvahotel_UTTD Ай бұрын
Istg at this point Disney isn’t even doing stuff to make a functioning company anymore they are just making rage bait
@sparklyDayz Ай бұрын
Nooooooooooooooooooo meeting her has been my highlight of every Disney Trip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
Fortunately she is still available at Disneyland and (potentially) some of the international locations for a meet and greet! And at WDW she can be seen during other events, just no scheduled meet and greets.
@kerisaltchannel3817 Ай бұрын
4:55 so I guess everyone forgot those fairy movies huh 😑
@fernandasicsu6587 Ай бұрын
Honestly, I also don like to consume media that doesn't have any character's I find pretty
@Jess-dm8hl Ай бұрын
I was a college program cast member at Magic Kingdom. Tink doesn’t walk around the park at all. There actually aren’t many characters that do bc it creates mobs and safety risks. When she did do meet and greets, she was pretty much the Pixie Hollow movie version of Tinker Bell and as a kid that grew up on those movies, I LOVED that. I got asked pretty much regularly if they could meet Tink. Having to explain to kids/families that Tink didn’t do meet and greets anymore broke my heart. She had to fly back to Neverland we would say. People get so excited seeing her fly during the fireworks so the demand to meet with her is definitely there.
@ree57brzi 24 күн бұрын
🛠OG Tinkerbell, The “problematic” one, isn’t even as popular as her pixie hollow counterpart. i bet if you ask little girls about who Tink is, most of them will mention pixie hollow tink.
@torrent3481 Ай бұрын
sometimes i wonder if they are using these characters as sacrificial lambs because they have mascot characters that have a lot worse histories than tinker bell whom as you mentioned acted quite normal. almost all the male characters of their animal mascots have histories of being creeps a/or abusive. of course, i am not sure if these issues have ever been addressed. honestly though, most of these issues have faded to the point they are barely remembered thx to time and there is no point of disney dredging them up like this and making something that wasn't an issue an issue.
@loverrlee Ай бұрын
Thank you for mentioning that some women do naturally have Tinkerbell’s body type. At my fittest, I have a Tinkerbell body type. I have very wide hips, and smaller bust (“pear shaped”), and I always related to that scene of Tinkerbell measuring her hips. I funny thing is, I always took that as Tinkerbell feeling like her hips were too big? Idk that’s just how I always read it.
@Pink-bow-blue-hat Ай бұрын
That's how I read it too!! Crazy to think Tinkerbell was celebrated for being pear shaped representation 10 years ago when it was trendy to have a thigh gap, but now it's completely the opposite way around and now her body is unrealistic? This is so stupid 💀
@loverrlee Ай бұрын
@@Pink-bow-blue-hat Yes I agree! That is tragically the result of body types going "in and out of fashion." People can't (or shouldn't) change their body type just to fit in. All body types are beautiful and should be celebrated and appreciated no matter what time period we are in! 😭
@somber087 Ай бұрын
"She has an unrealistic body that damages young girls". Like alot of animated characters? 💀
@sevenequalsoneheart6710 Ай бұрын
I thought at first the tweet was going to be about how short her dress is. At the time i was ready to rip the heads off of all execs and critics for not just making her dress longer. But now knowing its another witch hunt on body proportions that selfconcious critics claim do not exist (when that is certainly not true), i can only face palm at the clear evidence of social and intellectual inferiority...and this is coming from a boarderline hermit who needs only one more bad day to lock himself away from society, friends, and family. So when i think someone needs to go out and socialize more, that should be a slap in the face to people who think Tink needs to be banned. *Deep breath* appologies if i was at all rude during this rant. I find venting my frustrations online helps keep me from bottling that hate when irl and having it be unleashed on people who do not deserve it....the world already has too much hate as it is but it is unhealthy to keep these feelings bottled up or pretending they shouldn't exist. Loved the video btw.
@TheArtisticAloubell Ай бұрын
Thank you 😁
@bearinyourwalls Ай бұрын
I agree that the best thing to do is probably to have media that does both (separate pieces that fulfill either need). As long as the media and the people interacting (or their guardians) with it take some care in how they interact with those ideas or themes, there shouldn't be too many issues. It's definitely more complicated than that and differs from person to person, but I think it's a good foundation that people can keep in mind to figure out what works for them.
@MoreCoral 4 күн бұрын
Let’s be honest, 7 year olds don’t notice the problematic behaviour and a lot of kids remember her from pixie hollow!
@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois Ай бұрын
I'm still mad at Disney for cancelling Splash Mountain and the Br'ers
@QuietStorm44777 Ай бұрын
10:26 🤣🤣 I half expected to see a one piece character but I forgot Winx club also had a "aesthetical style" 😂
@nightowlwriter Ай бұрын
You don't solve 'problemetic' characters by deleting them or completely changing them. Like you said, creating new characters is how you solve them.
@risaswonderland Ай бұрын
Talking about proportions I myself look very close to Risa Harada from DN Angel and I never had any surgery to look that way.
@Matthew-cv4on Ай бұрын
why can't Disney just make safe, family-friendly content like they used to 😔
@sedlyrix6979 Ай бұрын
If you want to know more about Tinkerbell lore, I suggest you watch Athena P's video about it, it's really interesting because there's are books about the world building around the Fairy Hollow
@Monhamd1000 Ай бұрын
And Disney clearly doesn't not care.
@notbatman9085 Ай бұрын
🛠️Great video, as always! It is upsetting that modern Disney seems to see absolutely everything as problematic except for the actual problematic things that they’re currently doing. While modern Disney does still do some good things, they also do some others things that makes me wonder what they think they’re doing. But this wouldn’t be the first time that Disney made questionable decisions. So, like with those other times throughout their history, I hope that Disney regains their lost magic someday. Also, you jump scared me with that High School Musical clip.
@milo_thatch_incarnate Ай бұрын
Thank you for addressing the fact that in the original source material, fairies are so small they can only feel one emotion at a time, and it completely possesses them. It's so OBVIOUS, but the Disney DEI team don't want to hear it. They just don't like that she has an unrealistic body -- _when she's right alongside a boy who can FLY._ Nothing in animated movies is supposed to be perfectly realistic!! That's the point of doing it animated instead of live action! So you can make characters and situations come to life that would be impossible in real life!! Also, just the fact that she is possessed by one emotion at a time is such a great teaching moment for kids! Kids can also be like that! When they're angry, they're little RAGE MONSTERS, and really believe that they've never been so angry in their _entire life._ You can use Tink as an _example_ of how NOT to react when you feel that way! Also, 12:02 -- YES girl. Mood.
@RedKoopaPlumber Ай бұрын
On the topic of Tinkerbell and being put on hold at the parks, I DO know some walk characters in the parks are being put on hold due (including Tink) due to too many incidents of actors getting assaulted by visitors and sadly the Tinkerbell actors have been victims on several occasions. There's also been huge budget cuts / lay offs on their actors to from what I was told by friend who works for Disneyland. :( With some of the mis-info/rumors as mentioned by Fusetunes, there has been a steady rise of mis-info and false rumors with Disney for rage bait accounts, Mousetrap is best example, and I see way too many people take joke stuff at face value and this rumor IIRC is one of them. Hating on Disney has always been a hot topic tho even with false, but there's also a lot real stuff to dislike about the company nowadays. I'm just hoping animation fans can more good ORIGINAL animated movies in general. I always had a complicated love/hate with the original Peter Pan movie since I always disliked the racist depictions of American Indians (Im part native), but I also love the movie Hook, and my late mom was obsessed with Tinkerbell. I found the biggest issue with the original movie was the racist depictions/plot is the huge issue with the first film, but I doesn't mean I'm going to force people to not watch it.
@samanthavickrey2154 Ай бұрын
🛠️ I love OG Tink, the pixie hollow series and movies made me upset because I felt they took away the best parts of Tinks personality. Her body type is actually based on a live action actress that helped the animators. I’m not saying it’s a normal but all body types should be accepted.
@DelaneyB.444.77 Ай бұрын
She was what got me into fairies. I was obsessed with her as a kid and I watched all the tinker bell movies quite a lot. She’s been in so many of Disney’s logos throughout the years. She’s iconic. She was made at a time that yes, stereotypes of women weren’t great but she ended up growing to be a complicated and interesting character with a very vivid personality and goals. People can’t stand a character being complex and making bad choices but still being likable and redeemable.🤷🏻♀️
@Angi3_6 Ай бұрын
That’s like Pokémon getting rid of Pikachu. Tinker Bell is a MASCOT for the company, alongside Mickey Mouse (arguably more so).
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