So... I watched all 28 episodes of Frieren!

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Vexed Viewer

Vexed Viewer

2 ай бұрын

So... I watched all 28 episodes of Frieren: Beyond Journey's End. Here are my thoughts.
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Frieren Review

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@mikeglaus5440
@mikeglaus5440 Ай бұрын
I've been watching anime for well over 30 years, before it even became as mainstream as it fortunately has now - I've seen a lot of differnt shows and "Frieren" is easily in the top three of the best anime of all time. Whether you like it or not, practically no other series offers such a high-quality overall package. Storytelling, animation, music and mood created, characters and development, attention to the smallest details and a great narrative pace. Even after a neutral evaluation, you can't help but give Frieren the masterpiece stamp of approval.
@Scyon13
@Scyon13 Ай бұрын
Yep same I've watched well over 1000 anime and I haven't seen anything like it and to the consistent level of it. It's in my top 3 as well.
@NorseCrusader1
@NorseCrusader1 Ай бұрын
Same
@bobislav85
@bobislav85 2 ай бұрын
Yes, its a masterpiece. And this can be objectively proven by breaking down and analyzing the story telling, characters' building and development, world building via different methods which the screenwriters used - foreshadowing, micro expressions, mirroring stories and events, allegory, metaphors, symbolism, comparison and other means of expression . How someone feel towards this tale has nothing to do with its level of consistency, coherency and importance of the elements used in building the story, the characters and the world. When you add up the intertwining themes which are explored in debt from more than 1 perspective, the quality of the animation and music this is truly a masterpiece. Objectively - This story bleeds quality from writers point of view. Subjectively - everyone can decide for himself. Just one little example about the high level of writing - the mimic gig serves not only as a comic relief but it also stays coherent with the emotional level of Frieren as character and with the theme of how magic should be fun and enjoy the surprises which a journey brings. The story telling is that solid!
@Lightiningshadow628
@Lightiningshadow628 2 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@nichoudha
@nichoudha Ай бұрын
That's all subjective, not objective....
@Scyon13
@Scyon13 Ай бұрын
Idk if you can say all those elements are objective but what I can say is objective is the production values. The art, sound design, music, voice acting, effects work, cinematography, animation are all top tier among the best anime of all time. The rest is subjective to a degree, many things people who understand writing and storytelling at a deeper level consider great writing are often overlooked by the average anime watcher.
@MR3LIXR
@MR3LIXR Ай бұрын
​@@Scyon13 i think you're suffering from fanboyism
@Scyon13
@Scyon13 Ай бұрын
@@MR3LIXR how so? I've watched over 1000 anime all the "Big guns" and it has comparable production values to or better than what most people consider the best in all of the things I listed, tell me 10 shows that are better and have the same consistency across the entirety of their run, you can't. I can't, it has movie level production values. As for the writing thing it true isn't it? Most people don't know what good writing is.
@loayzc10
@loayzc10 Ай бұрын
Hey I get it, it's an anime not quite up your alley. The action being them standing around casting defensive spells? Are we even watching the same show? Seriously, Frieren had some of the best action sequences I've ever seen, I'd put them toe to toe with _any_ series, even ones specifically focused on combat.
@user-nl3cf6kq2v
@user-nl3cf6kq2v 2 ай бұрын
4:15 Maybe you're too young toappreciate it,sonny.
@ryneneville8021
@ryneneville8021 Ай бұрын
I feel like this anime is perfect for Millennials who are now in their late 30's and early 40's. Lots of us are currently looking back at the good old days with a different perspective. It's easy to look back and fondly remember the great times, but also wish that we had appreciated them more when they were happening. The introspective aspect of Frieren just really seems to hit home for someone my age. Based on everything the show has to offer I would definitely call it a masterpiece, but that doesn't mean it has to appeal to everyone and I can certainly understand younger audiences not feeling drawn to it. If you like it now but aren't really too interested in it I would say wait 10 years and revisit it. You might find it strikes a different cord with you when you are older.
@nerdynick314
@nerdynick314 2 ай бұрын
5:20 mmm I gotta disagree on this take because spells started to get more interesting during magic exams.
@SexxStar
@SexxStar Ай бұрын
And the magic exam is at the end
@kenzovich9225
@kenzovich9225 Ай бұрын
Yeah, i think you have very reasonable thoughts and i agree that it's not for everyone. Some people say "not for everyone" isn't a compelling argument because, if the show is good, it would simply be liked by everyone, but imo, that's not how the world works. People have preferences, and no matter how great something is, if their standards aren't met, they wont like it. Beyond that, i think you did a good job at recapping the story and what the most imporant parts were, to take with you. I'd say it's a good show, that is well written because most things that happen are accounted for, and don't leave room for many inconsistencies. But, it also feels to me like, the writer never takes risks and very carefully is constructing a narrative. For all the tragedy that was shown, there wasn't that much of an exploration into characters minds or their philosophy, and so i was left unsatisfied with unanswered questions. I gave it a 7/10, but i can definitely see potential for the second season, which could turn the show into a masterpiece.
@Raiyan66.
@Raiyan66. 2 ай бұрын
Bro is really milking it
@anonymouslyforgotten3840
@anonymouslyforgotten3840 2 ай бұрын
Damn that was quick! 4 days ago you were at what?, episode 3? Haha. Ok maybe this isn’t definitely the BEST anime of all time, and we may be blinded by recency bias, but in our defense, watching the show weekly with no expectations is a much better experience! 🤣 Yeah the fan favorites are almost exclusively Freiren and Hiemmel, since they are pretty much the most written. Ngl, my favorite is Hiemmel. Yeah, the pace of the anime is undeniably slow but that’s intentional. After all, we’re dealing with a mc who is willing to spend months looking for a flower. 😅The theme of the show is cherishing every second, so pacing like this is integral. Im a sucker for slow paced world building shows, so it’s definitely a top 10 anime for me, given my tastes, but definitely a turn off for others! I love the action in the show but it does admittedly leave much to be desired. The fights are animated well but they’re very short lasting and simplistic. Most of the fights aren’t longer than a minute, and for most of them the method of winning is pretty much the same “a battle of attrition.” The fights make sense thematically but are not the best in terms of a action show. Its just more of a narrative first, action last kind of show. At the very least, they’re not dragged out like in other anime. 10/10 story 8.5/10 characters - heimel and freiren get most of development but side characters are decently built too 10/10 world building 7/10 action 10/10 animation 9/10 pacing
@zaidanhakim4974
@zaidanhakim4974 2 ай бұрын
no hate but how watching it weekly is the better experience? I always thought it's disorienting from one episode to another and less focused
@anonymouslyforgotten3840
@anonymouslyforgotten3840 2 ай бұрын
@@zaidanhakim4974 It builds more tension and excitement. When you have to wait each week, all those emotions slowly build up in anticipation. Additionally, you get more time to think about the episode, theory craft, and talk about it with others. All of that adds to the experience. Once the new episode episode comes along, it unconsciously becomes a “reward” after a excruciating long wait. Thus results in greater excitement. Its like eating pizza. When you first see the pizza, you’re hungry and excited to eat it. The first slice is absolutely delicious. Most people aren’t satisfied with just 1 slice, so if there’s no more pizza, you’re left feeling hungry and thinking about how good that slice was. So now, you’re just sitting there hungry, waiting for something to eat. So when someone says “Hey there’s one more slice over here” you’re very enthusiastic to get that slice. That enthusiasm makes you enjoy the slice much more! On the other hand, in the event that theres alot more pizza, you can get slice after slice after slice. The first few slices were good, but each following slice only becomes less and less tasty overtime… and then, you’re just feeling fat. Thus, the pizza slices aren’t very meaningful to you. In other words, having scarce episodes over time periods is more enjoyable and memorable, while having it all at once is decreasingly enjoyable and less memorable. You can just grab the next slice, or episode, so your hunger, or emotions, never really get a chance to develop. Its just basic concepts of human psychology and economics: - operant conditioning: continuous fixed interval reinforcement -The law of diminishing marginal utility They’re pretty interesting concepts you should search them up! (Fact check these terms btw, I might be using the wrong ones, been a while since I took these classes. I remember the concept and not the name 😅)
@zaidanhakim4974
@zaidanhakim4974 2 ай бұрын
@@anonymouslyforgotten3840 that just applies to any periodically aired shows, man. So how is Frieren better to being watched weekly? Also the engagement around the internet is I believe what make it more fun to watch weekly since everyone talk about it, but that's all about what I know, could there be anything else?
@anonymouslyforgotten3840
@anonymouslyforgotten3840 2 ай бұрын
@@zaidanhakim4974 yeah pretty much. I wasn’t talking exclusively freiren, i mean periodic shows in general
@bernieburton6520
@bernieburton6520 2 ай бұрын
Not my favorite ever, but my favorite last year certainly. I'm following the Manga as well. And honestly, the story slowly builds over time. A second season will be even better than the first season if they put as much effort into the second season as the first. The Manga is far enough along that it's in a third 28 episode season and the current arc seems to be one that will be much longer than anything previously. Basically, while there's still slice of life and character development, there's also more plot driven arcs as the story continues.
@enamis1
@enamis1 2 ай бұрын
It annoys me how people call every new seasonal the Next Best Thing Ever. It aint. God. But its good and solid, aint need to be more. Also thats interesting that you disliked the middle 14-17 because that was my favorite part. And when the Exam kicked it i tuned out until Fakeren lmao. Different strokes i guess
@milestrombley1466
@milestrombley1466 2 ай бұрын
It's not my cup of tea, but it is a nice cozy series. Good for fantasy lovers who want to relax.
@esejoshrodz2271
@esejoshrodz2271 2 ай бұрын
Opinion accepted now i unsuscribe
@gamingforever9121
@gamingforever9121 2 ай бұрын
As have I
@jeilymateus2317
@jeilymateus2317 2 ай бұрын
Bye you won’t be missed
@gamingforever9121
@gamingforever9121 2 ай бұрын
@@jeilymateus2317 I don’t really care to be honest. I haven’t watched in months. His rwby content was why I subbed to begin with .
@Heyya01
@Heyya01 2 ай бұрын
@@gamingforever9121 me too. Good riddance to this page
@rumaristo129
@rumaristo129 2 ай бұрын
What? Episodes 14 and 16 were the best ones. The mage exam was the weakest part of the show for me.
@VexedViewer
@VexedViewer 2 ай бұрын
I didn't say those episodes were bad. lol Episodes 14 was good but I a lot of those episodes started blinding together.
@rumfordc
@rumfordc Ай бұрын
its not my favorite of all time but i think it deserves to be the top rated of all time for how many different things it did right without doing anything seriously wrong. FMAB was great but you have to admit those voices and tropes are a deal breaker for a lot of people
@LuigiLonLon
@LuigiLonLon 17 күн бұрын
Hmmm, I personally think its not about if you're remembered or not that makes life worth living, its what you leave for your fellow people and future gens for them to learn, grow, better themselves and pass on to others what makes your legacy go on. Flamme left a huge impression of Freiren, and while she would be most likely forgotten in history as years passes , the lessons she left to Freiren still carries, as well as what she learned while traveling with Himmel and the Gang and their values that inspire lots of people her included,, slowly but surely as she now opens up and realizes what those teachings are, some of those things she's passing up to Fern and Stark, and no doubt those two will have something new for Freiren to learn who as a long living elf most likely will pass to other people decades or centuries after these current events. Think of it as a positive learning cycle that should pile up and spread
@Ravensgale
@Ravensgale 2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed it primarily because I tried as fuck of all the Isekai slop that mimics high fantasy, but since the writers can't write a fantasy protagonist they instead write some social pariah that the Isekai fanbase can relate to getting a harem story and give it fantasy fixings **cough** Mushoku Tensei **cough** and call it a day like most Light Novel based anime these days. Frieren was a good high fantasy anime when the last good high fantasy anime we've had was The Record of Lodoss Wars, and it was a refreshing watch.
@rachetmarvel931
@rachetmarvel931 2 ай бұрын
There is no need to call out Mushoku Tensei there, buddy. Just say Frieren is good and move on 😂.
@Ravensgale
@Ravensgale 2 ай бұрын
@@rachetmarvel931 I felt the need because the last good high fantasy anime we've had in recent years was Arslan Senki in 2015.
@gamingforever9121
@gamingforever9121 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@RavensgaleArslan senki was the Shitt 😂
@kallemattiwaris2422
@kallemattiwaris2422 Ай бұрын
Frieren (and some guy who made a yuotube video comparing the two) inspired me to watch Lodoss War, And so far I'm really liking it.
@elpopman2055
@elpopman2055 2 ай бұрын
It Not Perfect. No anime is. But its Far Better The Perverted Harem Anime Mukushon Tensei and Western Anime like RWBY.
@nishchayjain1121
@nishchayjain1121 Ай бұрын
Mushoko Tensei is mixed with people’s opinions, because I don’t think a lot of people hated it, just the minority of them.
@bottomtier3823
@bottomtier3823 Ай бұрын
It definitely isn't better than Tensei LN so far
@Scyon13
@Scyon13 Ай бұрын
Purely from a production level standpoint it's better than 90% of all anime, you obviously missed alot by how you described episodes 11 through 17 and by missing that you're missing the entire point of the story, it's about the journey not the destination, it's about the people and places not the fights. None of it is filler, every episode and notable characters has an underlying message or lesson to them. I think by the way you say things, you're approaching the show from a Shonen perspective, and value fights and spectacle over storytelling and 3 dimensional characters which is fine when I was younger I also had the view but now I'm older and have experienced a lot of things the show hits hard like truck kun 😂 It's not only one of the greatest anime of all time but one of the greatest pieces of fantasy of all time in any medium.
@MR3LIXR
@MR3LIXR Ай бұрын
The people who unsub because you gave your honest opinion and didn't suck off the show with no hand is why i sub.
@millennialmike575
@millennialmike575 Ай бұрын
I just want to post a non-NPC comment. I watched your video, it was very balanced. I find it crazy how zealous the fans of this show are. It's actually insane. I feel like this show is not going to have a lot of replay value and will likely be forgotten because, from my observations, most people are watching this show for what it isn't and not for what it is. Almost every commentary made about the show is just to spite the status quo or air some complaint about the "state of the shonen/fantasy/isekai genre". It seems the only way many people can appreciate the show is if they watch a ton of run-of-the-mill Shonen and then have to relieve themselves by watching this show. What is even more frustrating is the amount of pomp and circumstance there is around criticizing the show. People make snide comments about your presumed age, intelligence, emotional intelligence, attention span, or deduction skills. You can tell that the people who are being so defensive are extremely insecure, even hurt. I get it, Frieren is offering some kind of parasocial therapy to a lot of people. They want something affirming, sentimental, and comfy while also still feeling like a Shonen. For all their talk about their intelligence being respected, nuance, and deep themes they won't just jump into Seinen anime and manga because they still aren't ready for actual adult storytelling. They want the comfort of Shonen while also criticizing others for being less capable audience members than themselves. This is an extremely interesting phenomenon.
@noahsarc9531
@noahsarc9531 2 ай бұрын
Good. Now watch Undead Unluck next.
@user-vz1mm3rh8w
@user-vz1mm3rh8w 2 ай бұрын
Peak
@Heyya01
@Heyya01 2 ай бұрын
Frieren best anime of all time. You should just go back to watching woke western content from hollywood weirdos and just leave masterpieces like frieren alone
@berubettonyan
@berubettonyan 2 ай бұрын
One of Frieren's main selling points is how inoffensive the show is, so I think it is a silly statement.
@TheBarnabie
@TheBarnabie 2 ай бұрын
didnt watch the video cause i havent finished frieren but im sure it was full of good opinions. fantistic work will subscribe
@vAqeii
@vAqeii Ай бұрын
the comments are cooking you bro 💀
@Hilversumborn
@Hilversumborn 2 ай бұрын
Good on you for bringing some nuance Vex. I personally belief you can only see how good something is when it still holds up years down the line. I.E. Avatar, Lord of The Rings, Full Metal Alchemist. And we'll see if Frieren will hold up or if it will fumble in season 2, because that's always a possibility.
@frosttree1873
@frosttree1873 2 ай бұрын
I hope Frieren doesn't fumble adapting season 2, because in my opinion it has the best arc in Frieren. I think season 2 if adapted correctly will be golden and do better than season 1
@aarondx3764
@aarondx3764 2 ай бұрын
That was a quick jump lol I fear as though 7 minutes, won't be enough though.
@gmoney9469
@gmoney9469 2 ай бұрын
Why does almost every single fantasy anime need to be in that high fantasy, video game-y, dragon quest style? Where they talk about classes, have big magic circles that shoot laser beams, and talk about mana like power levels from DBZ? It’s about as done to death and tired as the Isekai trope. I wish they would put out more grounded fantasy series that I can take seriously in the style of LotR and Berserk. Something more like Fire Emblem could also work if they don’t go too over the top. Just anything, ANYTHING, other than another dragon quest clone.
@Hilversumborn
@Hilversumborn 2 ай бұрын
Nowadays it's Video Games who are more grounded while cartoon and anime act like it's a play/game.
@nichoudha
@nichoudha Ай бұрын
The genre is called progression fantasy, it's now a thing, mainly due to the influence of South Korean web novels lol
@roquejo
@roquejo Ай бұрын
sheez.. you just can't please everyone
@DBZFANX1000
@DBZFANX1000 2 ай бұрын
Well yeah i wouldn't call it a masterpiece either even tho it did beat out full metal alchemist as number 1 anime on myanimelist without being downvoted. But its too early a lot more stuff in the manga too. That was halfway of the story and it doesn't seem like the manga is gonna end anytime soon either so I think we need a bit more before it gets to anything of a masterpiece if that will happen.
@1sennacherib
@1sennacherib 2 ай бұрын
A show with Frieren's writing, but RWBY's combat animations! :D
@Sonic171K
@Sonic171K Ай бұрын
Such an amazing show Frieren is. I think if I love the characters enough the boring stuff feels easier to sit through. Violet Evergarden I dropped early and quick for starting off so boring to me. Still don't know main girl of the show. I might retry watching it someday. Lol
@goodlion335
@goodlion335 Ай бұрын
Violet Evergarden was ruined by garbage adaptation. You should try to read original story, it is much better.
@yuukianimates3318
@yuukianimates3318 2 ай бұрын
Can you watch Mushoku Tensei?
@stevenswann5293
@stevenswann5293 2 ай бұрын
This! I'm 100% with you in that i was really surprised people became so attached to this show that they were touting it as the best anime of the year (some even said decade.) I liked the show, thought it was good, and will likely check out season2, but I won't be too hyped for it. Looking for something else Vexed? I cannot recommend ARCANE enough if you haven't already seen it! Now that's a show i'm beyond hyped for!
@aegisleague4053
@aegisleague4053 2 ай бұрын
I don't actually like anime, but there's still a small handful that manage to have enough quality that I enjoy them in spite of their medium. Frieren wasn't one of those handful. I watched the first episode, and just wasn't enthralled at all. I get what the show was going for, but there was no compelling hook that grabbed me. I guess you're probably looking for more stuff to cover though, so it's time for me to make my pitch for Hajime no Ippo. Hajime no Ippo is incredibly meaningful to me, and it's a crime how little it gets talked about, considering how popular it used to be and the fact that it's nearing 1500 manga chapters now. It's one of those special handful of anime that rise far above the status quo, and while I'm not sure it's your type of anime, I just have to try and shill for it. It's an anime/manga about boxing, created both to entertain and to foster a love for the sport in readers. What sets it apart from both other sports anime and other action anime, though, is the fights. Opponents are humanized and characterized so well that oftentimes, you might root for them just as much as the protagonist. The action is both brutal and technical, making use of the author's deep knowledge of the sport. Every move, every muscle motion, is rooted in reality, with many boxers taking inspiration from real life legends. The action being so good alone wouldn't be enough for the show to be one of my alltime favorites, though. This is a show about men going on very personal journeys of self-discovery. It's about finding purpose, and it's about finding fulfillment. If you're interested in giving it a try, the first season is on crunchyroll. The first three episodes (about an hour total) will give you a taste of what to expect.
@hxlobeats
@hxlobeats 2 ай бұрын
Ur right but no thank u
@lite4998
@lite4998 2 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. I loved the themes and the worldbuilding and the characters, and the animation and music were beautiful, but at the end of the day it's just a slice of life show. It's not a masterpiece and given a few years it will be mostly forgotten.
@JonnyHorseman
@JonnyHorseman 2 ай бұрын
>given a few years it will be mostly forgotten The huge demand for season 2 begs to differ
@lite4998
@lite4998 2 ай бұрын
@@JonnyHorseman It probably will and I'll probably watch it. But my point stands - season 2 does not mean being remembered as a masterpiece.
@devildolphin2102
@devildolphin2102 2 ай бұрын
Dude considering the majority of Fantasy is Terrible or Isekai. Frieren being so amazing will leave an impact in the community
@xXSamir44Xx
@xXSamir44Xx 2 ай бұрын
"It's just a slice of life show" Might be the dumbest criticism I've ever seen. You could say that about any genre. A well written show is a well written show and Frieren has better writing than 99% of anime.
@PREDATORvRIDDICK
@PREDATORvRIDDICK 2 ай бұрын
@@JonnyHorseman Define "huge?"
@imnotkaif1793
@imnotkaif1793 Ай бұрын
Opinion accepted now i unsubscribe
@SexxStar
@SexxStar Ай бұрын
I agree with you, the show is definitely over hyped. Its a titally fine show, nothing mind blowing.
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