So Is The Purosangue An SUV Or Not? [S6, E24]

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Жыл бұрын

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This week Tony and I discuss:
00:28 I need to sleep.
02:44 Welcome!
04:26 A ‘huge’ crash in Monaco!
09:18 Tony’s new Turbo S story…
17:06 Finally an affordable electric car!
20:53 BMW to stop offering Diesel cars?
23:20 Should I swap my X3 for the M3 Touring?
29:01 Is the Ferrari Purosangue an SUV?
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@keyfobandgob4012
@keyfobandgob4012 Жыл бұрын
Flipping the Ami to flipping a Turbo S - best segue ever.
@RedC220
@RedC220 Жыл бұрын
I own an FF (bought used). My dealer phoned me a month ago and asked if I was interested in the Purosangue, which was odd as they are all pre sold afaik. At £400K with options I couldn't afford one. Even if I had that kind of cash I'd be buying someting else. It's just made me appreciate what a good car my FF is. Which ironically can be currently picked up for the price of a New M3 touring. Just throwing that out there. M3 Touring or V12 Ferrari?
@LucaJC
@LucaJC Жыл бұрын
Great point! It has not crossed my mind that they are the same price. The main thing about the FF is servicing, and maintaining the FF. The BMW will be ‘cheap’ in comparison to the FF. One thing goes wrong with the FF and it can place you in severe stress. However, in saying that I think the FF is so misunderstood and will appreciate immensely in the upcoming future. A N/A V12 Ferrari that debuted to the entire automotive world Apple car play. It’s a daily drivable, understated supercar. If you get into a cash spec FF and drive it over a year and put a-lot of miles on it, I think you can get out of it pretty safely Just touching on the Purosangue I do think it’s honestly an amazing SUV. It’s agile, it’s pretty for an SUV, the V12 is so desirable….but….it’s like saying La Vouiture Noire is the best hypercar. For £400,000 pounds you would bloody hell want it to be and yet it still isn’t as practical as an Urus, it has far less tech and a really disappointing infotainment in regards to Apple car play taking up the whole centre screen and using the steering wheel (which constantly is moving) it’s hopeless as shown in the 296 GTB review from Throttle House. It’s boot space for an ‘SUV’ isn’t the greatest, and the COST of the bloody thing for fuel, maintenance, and depreciation after the hype has died down will be shocking. It makes 0 sense. I think it’s the most useless car that could be made. For the price I would take the £400,000 for a base no option Purosangue, and get a 488, an Urus, and then a nice holiday in Dubai. What would make more sense is putting the V6 hybrid from the 296 inside the car, turning it into a 5 seater, placing a central screen infotainment system, and reducing the price by £50,000 however! It still doesn’t make any sense in comparison to the Urus. It’s a better SUV.
@kirkpatrickdavid
@kirkpatrickdavid Жыл бұрын
100% the FF! Although if I were in your shoes I’d have been “on the phone to magnitude finance” in anticipation of your first flip 😄
@tumslucks9781
@tumslucks9781 Жыл бұрын
@@LucaJC 'And then a nice holiday in Dubai'. You're a person of exquisite taste.
@RedC220
@RedC220 Жыл бұрын
@@LucaJC I daily my FF, I do around 800 miles a month in it. Not huge, but more than most onwers. An annual service is £1000 at a main dealer, a big belt service is £2500 every 4 years at a main dealer. Warranty is annually £3960 for the Power15 or you can choose to self insure. There is noe a permanent solution to the PTU failing provided by a British company that reengineered the weak compnents. Drive in Drive out 24 hours turnaround £10K. There is nothing on sale today that I could replace it with. I'd not even go to a Lusso. BTW, they will be fitting the V6 motor in the PS along with a mild hybrid system, that is intended to be the "production" model. The New PS is a limited run V12 of I think 2000 units which were all oversubscribed by at least 100%. My dealer was just fishing and trying to get me into a V12 Lusso - I had no real serious chance of getting a PS.
@ChrisDorgan
@ChrisDorgan Жыл бұрын
I had the same epiphany when I got my vantage. Same price as a used M2 Comp or brand new top spec 4 series diesel. Big maintenance bills in comparison but the joy it brings! (Don’t get me wrong the M2 was a proper fun car and easier daily)
@jlo1169
@jlo1169 Жыл бұрын
Tony you are 100% spot on with Porsche. I feel the same way with Rolex over the past 3-4 years as well
@NewHandle_
@NewHandle_ Жыл бұрын
Do they get angry if you flip watches?
@jlo1169
@jlo1169 Жыл бұрын
@@NewHandle_ ya. You’ll be blacklisted at the ad
@kailanphillips7305
@kailanphillips7305 Жыл бұрын
I love Tony messing up his sayings. “Tarnishing with the same stick” was my favourite And when Sam meant to say “leading them down the garden path” he corrected him to “taken them down a blind alley” 😂😂😂
@borjastick
@borjastick Жыл бұрын
Pity he cannot speak proper English. He seems unable to understand the difference between past tense and now. It's all mangled. No doubt he would say he has some condition but surely as you get older you just learn?
@mason26392
@mason26392 Жыл бұрын
@@borjastick it’s not that deep bro 😂
@jd32k
@jd32k Жыл бұрын
​@Ryan Mason just a hater not worth the reply
@sp00ky1969
@sp00ky1969 Жыл бұрын
Whatever. Potatoes, tomatoes. 🤷‍♂️
@martinwgnr
@martinwgnr Жыл бұрын
Your X3 (made since 2017) is the equivalent to the older 3 Series. The current 3 series is made since 2019 and based on that the M3. Maybe this could be one reason. Also the fact the Touring is like 7 cm longer.
@Some.One_Unknown
@Some.One_Unknown Жыл бұрын
Rather than debating on whether it is or isn't an SUV; Why not just call it for what it actually is? "A Crossover"
@mitchellsteindler
@mitchellsteindler Жыл бұрын
He's using the word SUV in place of crossover. It's an ever so slightly lifted hatchback, not even a lifted estate.
@nicolasdujardin5691
@nicolasdujardin5691 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable chat, guys! You both made it to my Nr.1 automotive podcast on youtube 🏆👌 Have a good one !
@yardysculture8594
@yardysculture8594 Жыл бұрын
really loving these weekly chats, the show is just getting better and better,
@brandonherrera2891
@brandonherrera2891 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Been listening since the beginning. Always save them for Fridays, to end the week off good.
@grahamcoffer1720
@grahamcoffer1720 Жыл бұрын
First class content once again,great presentation ,really interesting chat.
@RichardRatner.1972
@RichardRatner.1972 Жыл бұрын
Yyyeess! Love the weekly. Thanks guys. Kindest regards, Richard U.K
@bennetulbricht9922
@bennetulbricht9922 Жыл бұрын
Love the episode, Sam you should totally check out the Alpine B3! Sounds like the perfect compromise.
@888mattd
@888mattd Жыл бұрын
He’s driven one. His footage got lost before he got chance to edit video. He wasn’t too fussed on the B3 from memory.
@Rocky-hh3yg
@Rocky-hh3yg Жыл бұрын
My old work van had two pillows for this exact reason. Get to site, sleep two hours.
@NewHandle_
@NewHandle_ Жыл бұрын
Once again, love these podcasts
@richjohn9356
@richjohn9356 Жыл бұрын
I have a Purosangue on order and it won't be less than 430k 😢. Your conversation made me want it more. Having that glorious v12 in an 4 seater, is driving nirvana in something more practical than a FF/Lusso. Most buyers have a supercar already. So all this what can you have for 400k is irrelevant to P/sangue buyers, as they can have what they like. In europe they are been offered at a 230k premium. Thank you, great vid
@alien2375
@alien2375 Жыл бұрын
Sam your podcast is so nice to listen while Im working, much nicer than other podcasts that I listen to actually👍🏻
@jd32k
@jd32k Жыл бұрын
The only thing is the amount of times Sam says, ummmm and uhhhh and how loud he says it. It becomes a bit much when wearing headphones
@richardjohntierney5434
@richardjohntierney5434 Жыл бұрын
Great episode, really enjoyable 👏
@mini_steve
@mini_steve Жыл бұрын
I think that the "sport" in SUV was originally intended for the outdoor hobbies and pursuits that the particular vehicle could offer in storage, load and capability. Now it just means fast, expensive and ugly with a depression level worse that Russia.
@Coronerlex
@Coronerlex Жыл бұрын
If you don't want the driving dynamics of the Purosangue, you buy the cullinan or the bentayga. Absolutely spot on about the Pano roof Sam. Needless weight up top, and if you really can't even enjoy it as the driver....who cares? The resale value effect will be irrelevant on the Purosangue. It'll be immensely desirable no matter how it is specced.
@lukecamfield2130
@lukecamfield2130 Жыл бұрын
Best hour of the week 🙌
@dejavuking
@dejavuking Жыл бұрын
I love Ferrari. But like I said last video. If you grow a banana and stick an orange sticker on it… at the end of the day it’s still a banana!. If you cut the ends off a banana to make it the same length and similar shape to a sausage, it doesn’t make the banana a sausage!. Make a car that’s the same shape, size and similar weight to an suv but say it’s not an suv…at the end of the day it’s still an SUV!. Looks like an SUV, drives like an SUV, advertised in Ferrari videos going off-road… means it’s probably an SUV. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…it’s probably a duck!.
@pnsp33
@pnsp33 Жыл бұрын
The thing with the Mazda is quite understandable imo. Exclusive brands used to have really unique body language or “cd”. Every non car guy could identify a Ferrari. Mid engine Ferraris look unique. The c8 Corvette tried to copy but looks like a Ferrari from wish. An 812 looks unique. Nothing looks like a Porsche. Nothing looks like Lamborghini. The Purosangue has similarities with the Mazda or a Cupra Formentor. Of course it’s a completely different type of car. But I think this shows quite well that nieche brands focus so much on increasing profit with expanding with super exclusive forms of mass market type of cars they loose their “soul”.
@NBMBC40
@NBMBC40 Жыл бұрын
How funny Tony has said exactly the same word for word as my comment on the video when you posted it on Sunday.
@NBMBC40
@NBMBC40 Жыл бұрын
I have a new LCI 330e M Sport xDrive Touring and you don't loose boot space in the main area it's under the boot floor you loose some space. It's the best of both and still quick at just under 300Bhp, low tax test drive one Sam you'll be surprised how good it is or just get the M3 Touring as I suggested to you before.
@jamespugh
@jamespugh Жыл бұрын
Great episode I think this new car from team of the phrasing horse falls into the cross-over suv market . Kind like mustang Mach E and chevy blazer in things
@grooveseeker2883
@grooveseeker2883 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam,Tony 😊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@BarryMakariou
@BarryMakariou Жыл бұрын
Tuned in yesterday I’d recommend signing up
@FrankieGoold
@FrankieGoold 3 ай бұрын
I owned an X3 and found the same issue with boot space, one pushchair and the boot was full. I now have an S5 Sportback and have loads more room in the boot.
@historicworldchallenge
@historicworldchallenge Жыл бұрын
The best! Tony is a legend.
@raceme
@raceme Жыл бұрын
Just in time for lunch 🎉
@vincentkr3w
@vincentkr3w Жыл бұрын
“SPECIFIC” - Tony nailed it again.
@Bilal-kb9yy
@Bilal-kb9yy Жыл бұрын
The car that comes closest to the Purosangue in my opinion is if the Panamera cross tourismo had the taycan cross tourismo body kit
@coensmeets8280
@coensmeets8280 Жыл бұрын
I own a Audi Q8, and I had a Audi S6 Avant. De Q8 has much more interior space than the A6/S6/RS6. But the booth of the A6/S6/RS6 is a little bit bigger because the Q8 has that sporty Coupe line.
@hunterhamish3099
@hunterhamish3099 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to have had Tony's & Sam's thoughts on the comparison between the Purosangue vs GTC4 Lusso vs FF. I'd much prefer the GTC4 Lusso
@andrewhurstcars
@andrewhurstcars Жыл бұрын
Whether you like the Purosangue or not, it’s the first high-end suv/lifted car that doesn’t pretend it needs any off-road capability. Expect other manufacturers to follow suit and drop the charade of needing true off-road capability for high-end SUVs (of which 99% won’t go off-road). Also it’s a game changer in having the clever suspension without the need for anti-roll bars, that will catch on too.
@-LK34-
@-LK34- Жыл бұрын
What’s the point in it being so high off the ground then? Surely that’s the whole idea of a lifted car - to be able to go where normal cars can’t, why raise the centre of gravity and compromise the driving for no reason?
@_Azur
@_Azur Жыл бұрын
​@@-LK34- just to be superior to the peasants in the small cars
@rsplines12
@rsplines12 Жыл бұрын
@@-LK34- Because soccer moms like to sit high up.
@andrewhurstcars
@andrewhurstcars Жыл бұрын
@@-LK34- some people just like the higher driving position, and ease of getting in/out the car, general load practicality.
@sp00ky1969
@sp00ky1969 Жыл бұрын
A chap recently reported having to buy a £10K Porsche watch in order to get his allocation at retail price for a GT product, at which point all the US people said they’d love to only pay £10K over retail and get something in return. Look at what US dealers sell new cars for to make your chin hit the floor.
@andymason1656
@andymason1656 Жыл бұрын
When is the F1 podcast being shown, bearing in mind its the 2nd race this weekend ?
@jackgartland4704
@jackgartland4704 Жыл бұрын
Interesting Petrol/Diesel debate. I currently Have a BMW 520d and its time to upgrade. I want something with more pace and 4wd. I do between 25 and 30 thousand miles a year and am torn between a 530d x drive and a 540i. Head says diesel heart says petrol. However as a dad with 3 kids and a dog it will 100% be a touring i genuinely think estate cars are some of the most underrated cars on sale. and I'm also quite shocked how little KZfaq content i can find on a BMW 540i touring.
@thepisteoffice331
@thepisteoffice331 Жыл бұрын
Sam, how do you open the rear doors on the Puro' in a tight space?
@markspark7347
@markspark7347 Жыл бұрын
Can we just say the Puro is a crossover?
@sllc1081
@sllc1081 Жыл бұрын
new intro is bangin
@Taylor40667
@Taylor40667 Жыл бұрын
M340i touring is perfect for you Sam You dont need a m3 not for double
@vodkafall
@vodkafall Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else think it looked as if Sam were interviewing himself in the thumbnail?
@maxspencer1151
@maxspencer1151 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the new channel - Behind the Panel Van 🤣
@cartergarnon6299
@cartergarnon6299 Жыл бұрын
Puro’s comp is the panamera turbo s e-hybrid. The Porsche is 5 years old has Porsche’s most contemporary tech & interior. If it’s the first to get the next gen refresh, it’ll be right there with the Puro
@benpenagonzales6014
@benpenagonzales6014 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t the X3 off the older 3 series chassis? An F series platform. The new 3 series is a G series platform. I had an older 3 series touring and the rear bench wasn’t quite big enough. But the new 3 series is notably bigger.
@johannwallrabe467
@johannwallrabe467 Жыл бұрын
No its on the CLAR Platform, introduced with the 7 Series in 2015. New 3 Series is on the same platform
@jamesmclaren3995
@jamesmclaren3995 Жыл бұрын
Need a Mk3 CRV boot shelf, Pram game changer 😂
@ChrisDorgan
@ChrisDorgan Жыл бұрын
Looking at the Purosangue, the Roma should have that fender design to break it up a bit.
@garethrichardson8645
@garethrichardson8645 Жыл бұрын
You need to read the press release for that VW ID1 $25k car closely they said it’s maybe coming in 2025/26. And they “hope” by that point they will have worked out how to make them that cheap. So it is a vapour press release. Good podcast guys
@007knick
@007knick Жыл бұрын
There has been a massive decrease in diesel SUVs. Not surprised with the laws.
@gergelymihaly199
@gergelymihaly199 Жыл бұрын
Citröen Ami can be easily overclocked, i guess that happened with that one too, apart from the decline, it shouldn't roll over with it's factory speed limit
@westside6048
@westside6048 Жыл бұрын
'I'm a Porsche guy through and through, but if you have to buy 6 new cars at retail to get a GT3 allocation what do they think is happening with the 6 cars customers are forced to buy? They have to hit the open market....it's not like they manipulated a GT3 slot and sold it for a 100k over. He's getting the "in stock drive it today" bump, not "special car" bump
@damngoodenzo
@damngoodenzo Жыл бұрын
Sam! Please please please! Get your hands on the new Maserati Grecale Trofeo, it would be great to hear your thoughts! ❤
@ChrisDorgan
@ChrisDorgan Жыл бұрын
So much want for an older Ferrari / manual at some point in my life. A 360 or a 430 manual the dream. Just ain't got the garage for it haha
@richardpill8322
@richardpill8322 Жыл бұрын
It was once said that if you wake up in the morning and think you are a fish, then get an X3, otherwise a 3 series touring is better all round. 😊
@mufc_kenny8186
@mufc_kenny8186 Жыл бұрын
Tim aka Shmee150 should have been here to talk of his dealings with both Porsche and Ferrari. He wants the GT4 RS but Porsche says he needs to buy x amount of cars etc before he can get one while with Ferrari he's getting along fine with them so far. Might even get an allocation for the new SF90 special car (forgot the name).
@markspark7347
@markspark7347 Жыл бұрын
We also have a baby and had the exact same issues Sam, yet, we also have a big dog… so I got us a 2009 Renault Espace with up to 3000 liters of boot space :) problem solved 😅
@davidb4058
@davidb4058 Жыл бұрын
"Used" Purosangue already on sale in Dubai. AED 3,050,000 (£686k). Not from a Ferrari dealer!
@paolasanchezd
@paolasanchezd Жыл бұрын
Macan GTS dimensions 186″ L x 76″ W x 63″ H ……..Purosangue dimensions 195″ L x 79.8″ W x 62.6″ H Nuff Said, wrap up the argument….
@reanetsemoleleki8219
@reanetsemoleleki8219 Жыл бұрын
If he's that happy with the handling, and the unit he drove had the pan roof, I'd have no problem with getting the pan roof.
@TJ-eo2qf
@TJ-eo2qf Жыл бұрын
Tony’s outfit is looking fresh
@waynemodley
@waynemodley Жыл бұрын
“Being led down the garden path” is the saying you’re after.
@eljayr4669
@eljayr4669 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this
@richboy900
@richboy900 Жыл бұрын
They almost flipped the Ami on fifth gear as well 😂
@MarcSob22
@MarcSob22 Жыл бұрын
You have to understand how the market works nowadays, the Purosangue is doing exactly what the market wants today but in the Ferrari way, a friend from Monaco who has several Ferraris in his collection, tested the Purosangue and bought it very happy, he tell me he love the Purosangue, he uses as a daily an F12 TDF so using the Purosangue as a real suv won't be a problem!
@MT-zh9wc
@MT-zh9wc Жыл бұрын
It’s a crossover and that’s the end
@mojetreningi
@mojetreningi Жыл бұрын
Purosangue looks like an electric crossover
@ashleyreid7113
@ashleyreid7113 Жыл бұрын
Tony is gonna drive it and change his mind 100%
@simons4474
@simons4474 Жыл бұрын
As he did with the sf90.
@bhyat
@bhyat Жыл бұрын
I don't think ferrari is as controlled by HQ as you believe. Here in South Africa, they had 1 Laferrari Aperta allocation for the market, it ended up going to the main dealership's landlord instead of other collectors with the big 5.
@grahammurphy5516
@grahammurphy5516 Жыл бұрын
The new Roma spyder looks interesting
@1961Password
@1961Password Жыл бұрын
Contemplating whether big SUV owners will be disappointed when they change into a Purosangue is probably irrelevant because if you can afford to blow £400k+ on a motor you can probably afford to hold onto your old one.
@fuddyduddy5640
@fuddyduddy5640 Жыл бұрын
I have in the past, and now own a Porsche...which will be my last Porsche. My experience with the lack of customer concern is the basis for this being my last Porsche. When I took delivery of my new Porsche, there were defects. The windshield showed irregularities in the coating that they apply, which was really dangerous when driving into the sun. One could literally not see through the windshield. The other factory defect was a miss-sown seem in the driver's lower seat cushion that was gathered to a point that a twelve-year-old amateur seamstress could have done better blindfolded. The factory refused to fix these defects. THIS WAS A BRAND-NEW CAR WITH FACTORY DEFECTS! To the absolute credit of the dealer, they replaced the windshield and repaired the seat cushion at their own expense. If only the factory cared about their customers as much as this dealer did.
@imran6570
@imran6570 Жыл бұрын
Get a yoyo2 pram Sam - game changer
@chibacat1234
@chibacat1234 Жыл бұрын
That Porsche discussion, absolutely agree with Tony. Fantastic cars, but the people behind the cars... not all so fantastic. It's a shame that people can become quite arrogant just because their product is good :/
@jeremiederiu5352
@jeremiederiu5352 Жыл бұрын
The purosangue is a gtc4 lusso on tilt with 4 doors. It’s as simple as that
@flavioc5389
@flavioc5389 Жыл бұрын
7:40 Antonio Pizzonia. He is back to racing.
@1961Password
@1961Password Жыл бұрын
The key difference between Ferrari controlling first re-sales and Porsche attempting to influence a re-sale is a matter of contract. From your discussion, Ferrari condition re-sale at the time of first purchase, and potentially successive transactions through registered dealerships, without which transactions cannot be fettered.
@gordonsimpson3235
@gordonsimpson3235 Жыл бұрын
Porsche (and Ferrari) are getting very greedy. They have had their profit, and now they want to manipulate owner behaviour? This business of only supplying an 'in demand' models if you also buy another (hard to sell) model as well....what the hell is that all about. Then the unedifying view of only selling limited run models to their bigger clients - most of whom will just hide them away in their 'collection', whereas someone who actually wants to use the car can 'go to hell'. Its a very unsatisfactory way to operate. With regard to boot space Sam...how do you think families packed two adults and 3 children into Mini's and BL 1100/1300's, Ford Escorts/Anglia's in the 1960's - heading off on holiday. Fact is we carry too much 'stuff' and buy way too big prams.
@guidovanherck-ei7bs
@guidovanherck-ei7bs Жыл бұрын
Sam, get a 330e it’s fantastic. It’s our family car and does the comfort thing really well. Fast when you want it to be, whisper quite to cruise, love it
@AutoEnthusiastJC
@AutoEnthusiastJC Жыл бұрын
They shouldn’t compare it to the Mazda, but should compare it to the Toyota bZ compact crossover concept. 58:25
@digbywheeler9761
@digbywheeler9761 Жыл бұрын
what’s your plant in the background? Is it real? If not where did you get it?
@mikemitch1041
@mikemitch1041 Жыл бұрын
Get the M3 touring from Tony give him the business for a change
@alekspen
@alekspen Жыл бұрын
The best looking EV made in my opinion is the Kia EV6, in person it has so much character and presence
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow 3 ай бұрын
question - at £400k is it a Purosangue or a Rolls?
@simoneb4393
@simoneb4393 Жыл бұрын
Lusso is surely not the predecessor 4 door alone makes it a new product. Btw turbo s is king on the Twistys - we tried even a 675lt… -only on track over +1 round the tts fades due to set up and tires… u should listen more to tony 😂
@samfenl0n
@samfenl0n Жыл бұрын
Can we get time stamps added , would be a great addition
@WheelzOH
@WheelzOH Жыл бұрын
large crossover
@tonymoreton7166
@tonymoreton7166 Жыл бұрын
Thought ID1 was going to be Euro 25k.
@007knick
@007knick Жыл бұрын
The Ferrari 2+2 with no roof rails is a poor decision. People will want to use them to drive to the alps. Skis for people who have never skied are long and bulky. Beyond me why they didn’t design ski holders. Yes those who own that car can fly and then hire skis or drive and hire skis but it’s not the same as driving your own Ferrari to St Moritz
@bispal
@bispal Жыл бұрын
I would bet Porsche did not contact the flipper of Tony's turbo S. It would be the buyer who hasn't told porsche he has flipped it and now wants another special car. You can only cash your chips in once with Porsche then you won't get another special. If you want a special you buy it at list, use for 0-6 months then trade it in AT LIST for the next GT car. So as a buyer you never make a profit but you do essentially get a free GT car for up to 6 months.
@afonsosouto9502
@afonsosouto9502 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t a lusso new like 400k? This is more car for the same money. Plus I think it will be the last purely v12 Ferrari because the 812 replacement is going to be a hybrid v12
@theknack
@theknack Жыл бұрын
Even highly specced, the V12 Lusso was barely over £300k. Good point being the last purely V12 Ferrari, mass produced car anyway. The Icona series could continue to be V12s.
@afonsosouto9502
@afonsosouto9502 Жыл бұрын
@@theknack but nowadays new cars are more expensive. It is obviously not cheap but if we think of it as a lusso evolution and not as a suv the price makes “more sense”
@denbeecky
@denbeecky Жыл бұрын
If it's possible trade the X3 in for the M3 touring than you can still have your dream daily driver which is the f pace and than you have a cool car when you want to go to car events with the three of you
@davepyne62
@davepyne62 Жыл бұрын
another great podcast. ref the purosangue for people with squilluons it won't matter and they'll still buy one and ferrari know it. whoever thought that the urus would ever be seen as a bargain!
@robcousins231
@robcousins231 Жыл бұрын
This is where the world of luxury watches and cars are very similar. Rolex has a big no on flipping as well, and if they catch you selling a submariner, say, that costs €7,800, and you then flip it for €14K, which is happening due to the insane demand for these watches, Rolex will blacklist you and won't sell you a watch from the dealers every again.
@flowmeful
@flowmeful Жыл бұрын
They wont sell you a watch anyway, if you are a normal customer. Only dealer relations can get you one for retail. Unfortunately
@borjastick
@borjastick Жыл бұрын
@@flowmeful Absolutely. I tried for several years at my local AD who smiled at my face and then ignored every request I made. I bought an Explorer 214270 which I loved but got it 'cheap' on ebay. I tried very hard to buy a Starbucks Subby and was told by two other ADs not to bother even asking. So I went off and bought a Super-Clone which is totally amazing.
@grantfergusson-hx3fp
@grantfergusson-hx3fp Жыл бұрын
@@borjastickwhere u get super clone from?
@borjastick
@borjastick Жыл бұрын
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@shaunkaridza1579
@shaunkaridza1579 Жыл бұрын
I the suspension is going to be horrible like the transmission on the FF
@adrianward7888
@adrianward7888 Жыл бұрын
Rolex will do the same if you flip a new watch, they would ban you from that specific dealer ban you for sure.
@sjeverton
@sjeverton Жыл бұрын
It's a crossover it's a Ferrari for the older gentleman easier to get into and space for the grandkids
@felicksos160
@felicksos160 Жыл бұрын
So the Purosangue is a 4 door Ferrari that just looks like a SUV? Not sure that makes it any better.
@giggity1144
@giggity1144 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for today's episode...
@DivineFrag
@DivineFrag Жыл бұрын
Not even mildly interested, especially at £200k over. I objectively can't afford it even if it wasn't £200k over anyway, but that's just the cherry on top because the overall design language of the Purosangue does not at all speak to me.
@bispal
@bispal Жыл бұрын
SUV does not mean sporty utility vehicle. It means sports and utility vehicle. Meaning its use is to facilitate sporting activities like cycling, skiing, kayaking etc. How 'sporty' the vehicle is has nothing to do with it. To facilitate being useful for sporting activities they generally have AWD and a high ride height as those activities are mostly done in remote and wilderness locations.
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