What's Up With Apple Vision Pro? And What's Next?

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Brian Tong

Brian Tong

4 күн бұрын

After the latest reports and WWDC24, I think it’s time to ask, What’s Up with the Apple Vision Pro? The newest report from The Information, claims Apple has 'suspended' work on the next Vision Pro and is instead focusing on releasing a cheaper model in 2025. Did visionOS 2 do enough? What direction are they going in? And where should they take it?
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@AEducationTX
@AEducationTX 3 күн бұрын
It is very, very expensive. However, watching a movie on VP is awesome.
@jwopd
@jwopd 3 күн бұрын
I went to pick up a new iPad Pro the other day and booked a demo to try the VP. I felt like I was on drugs after I took it off. If it wasn’t pushing 4k, I’d probably have walked out of apple right there with it in hand. Insane tech, it’s almost hard to believe it’s real.
@Broadwy99
@Broadwy99 2 күн бұрын
You are a true apple fan boy! What does that even mean, “it’s a meta product”? Ray Ban Meta’s are dope and consumer friendly and you are using it.
@tomtran9442
@tomtran9442 3 күн бұрын
Personal theater. I don’t have room for a tv or able to watch at a volume to really experience a movie. Visionpro solved those issues for me. Wish it is 1/2 the weight and price. Still hurting from the purchase but the video quality of movies and some dedicated contents is stinking amazing.
@westmcgee9320
@westmcgee9320 2 күн бұрын
I’ve told quite a few people and shut a couple more up by simply pointing out that people shell out much more for televisions which have much smaller effective screen sizes…and aren’t portable. Of course, dedicated TV’s have other advantages but then, so does the AVP.
@mjrtensepian1727
@mjrtensepian1727 2 күн бұрын
⁠@@westmcgee9320You can buy a decent big screen tv for under $1k. Which can watch while doing other things, with other people, and not wearing a goofy headset. Ridiculous comparison.
@cgott42
@cgott42 3 күн бұрын
If the processing was done on the iPhone, wouldn't it drastically reduce the iPhone's battery life?
@DavidLinn
@DavidLinn 2 күн бұрын
yes. definitely. but the iPhone 15 pro isn't even powerful enough to use for Vision Pro processing. not even close. even the battery in the biggest iPhone isn't enough to run Vision Pro for like an hour. not a good idea. You're talking about two computer chips in a pair of ski goggles that use the power of two laptops. Nothing about an iPhone is sufficient
@ThomasLeichardt
@ThomasLeichardt 3 күн бұрын
I love the AVP and use it almost every day. I rigged it with a halo headstrap so it’s totally comfortable now, as I couldn’t wear it with the straps Apple provided. Love it for immersive movie and entertainment experiences. And with the halo headstrap, I’m able to take off the light seal for augmented reality applications, and the AVP just floats in front of my eyes like a pair of glasses. That way I have all my peripheral vision. It’s such an amazing product, can’t wait for the next iterations. I’m also really looking forward to the extended Mac display for work situations, video production, etc.
@AM_9924
@AM_9924 3 күн бұрын
A cheaper Vision model is the way to go but comprising on the display & with smaller FOV is a massive mistake. I hope that’s not the case.
@PSy84
@PSy84 3 күн бұрын
they'll will remove iSight
@Jdevil21
@Jdevil21 3 күн бұрын
Ppl don’t realize that they updated hand tracking from 30hz to 90hz. That’s a huge update
@hsvr
@hsvr 3 күн бұрын
its because no one cares
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 күн бұрын
​@@hsvrMost who don't care it's because they don't know what refresh rate is or how it benefits the experience especially for VR. Apple users are full of ignorance.
@hsvr
@hsvr 3 күн бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M no they don’t care because most people who purchased one have stopped using the device and everyone else in the world doesn’t own one
@k.vn.k
@k.vn.k 3 күн бұрын
@@hsvrcorrection: it’s because “you” don’t care. Don’t talk on behalf of us. 😅
@hsvr
@hsvr 3 күн бұрын
@@k.vn.k I think the sales figures speak for themselves and the very fact they’re about to make a “more affordable option”. People also purchase iPhones that don’t have high refresh rates like the pro models and they don’t care
@raysandjays7328
@raysandjays7328 3 күн бұрын
Money , I love it but there is nothing that I necessarily need it for for 3500.
@KJ-ql4nm
@KJ-ql4nm 2 күн бұрын
And there’s nothing wrong with that
@bigpun4780
@bigpun4780 2 күн бұрын
Wish they would "de-prioritize" the price
@KJ-ql4nm
@KJ-ql4nm 2 күн бұрын
Just say that you’re broke
@bigpun4780
@bigpun4780 2 күн бұрын
@@KJ-ql4nm If not wanting to spend $3-4k on a product that's been de-priorotized by Apple makes me broke, then I am broke as a joke, my friend🤑🤑🤑
@coltonpiper6156
@coltonpiper6156 3 күн бұрын
Well the cheaper model definitely doesn’t need the front screen. So that has to be some money saved right there
@sweealamak628
@sweealamak628 2 күн бұрын
I'm in Singapore and most of us live in tiny apartments/flats with limited living space. I think it will sell very well in Asia considering our population density and overall smaller home sizes as compared to the US. Rather than spending thousands of dollars on renovations to maximise space or getting multiple monitors, a single AVP headset virtually extends our computing needs way beyond physical boundaries. Really look forward to the cheaper model when it comes out and I believe it will release much sooner than expected.
@aarongarcia2911
@aarongarcia2911 2 күн бұрын
Or you can get a PC for around $1000, Two Quest 3's for another $1,200, Accessories for maybe another $300. That's $2,500 so you can get a good 1440p Monitor for around $300. With the remaining $200 you can either buy experiences, games or whatever in the Meta OS. Or maybe that $200 goes to your desk setup to improve it and you just pirate all the games you want on the Quest lol. Or you can get the AVP that has a fraction of the things you can do on the Quest and hope they do more to the Apple Vision Ecosystem.
@TheLillianYoung
@TheLillianYoung 2 күн бұрын
@@aarongarcia2911 The video quality on the Quest is sub-par at best. Many of us who own the AVP also own the Quest. It doesn't have to be an either/or. The Quest is also a gaming toy while the AVP is a spatial computer.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 күн бұрын
Price is NOT the #1 problem of the Vision Pro. The problem is that most people (aka average consumers) STILL don't see utility in using a AR/VR headset. It can cost $1,000 and it STILL would be collecting dust in people's closets after 1 or 2 months.
@Aggie4life77
@Aggie4life77 3 күн бұрын
Nah, at that price which would put it in the range of an iPad Pro, people would buy this instead of an iPad if they have a phone and Mac. Also, you shouldn’t look at it as a phone where you use it daily. This will be more of a weekly device meaning you will use it a couple times a week. Mainly for movies, live events, immersive experiences and maybe some games. Even the occasional spacial computing with your Mac.
@Eddy-ov4tx
@Eddy-ov4tx 3 күн бұрын
I disagree completely. What holds it back is price and comfort.
@remyd8767
@remyd8767 3 күн бұрын
​@@Aggie4life77 no one is going to wear a headset just to browse KZfaq or the Internet. Then if this was $500 there isn't a real purpose for regular folks. This and the quest and all VR headsets
@Aggie4life77
@Aggie4life77 3 күн бұрын
@@remyd8767 who the f*ck said anything about just wearing it just to browse KZfaq? That’s all you do with the iPad. My point is that most people will buy this over the iPad if giving the choice. You need to understand that the AVP isn’t struggling. They said they are going to halt producing AVP2 to focus on getting a cheaper Mass market device out. Lean how to read and comprehend!
@remyd8767
@remyd8767 3 күн бұрын
@@Aggie4life77 most people who buy iPads are just using it for KZfaq and light browsing and light gaming.
@LegendaryLuke941
@LegendaryLuke941 3 күн бұрын
I really do want one. As I would watch so much content and having the Mac display bigger is awesome! The price is too high for me. Apple Vision is not yet available for the United Kingdom.
@wolfie8012
@wolfie8012 3 күн бұрын
Brian, did you kill your signature "that's a bad apple" joke? It was funny!
@valdezserra
@valdezserra 3 күн бұрын
Maybe he doesnt want to lose their good will
@briantong
@briantong 2 күн бұрын
I use it on final product and situations that call for it. I still do it.
@TheLillianYoung
@TheLillianYoung 2 күн бұрын
I bought the AVP on day one with the intention of seeing what the hype was then returning it. But I was blown away by the quality and spacial video experiences. I now use it almost daily to consume media. Flying with it is priceless. Comfort is great for me as-is - no extra straps. Sharing was a fail in my one attempt. When the ultrawide display is enabled, it'll be perfect.
@Eddy-ov4tx
@Eddy-ov4tx 3 күн бұрын
I love my AVP - i use it every day for content/entertainment and some productivity. Love some of the exclusive spatial apps like What If and Spatial video. Everytime i watch a video, i am always in Awe with the resolution/sound. It's quite literally my new "mac" Obviously the weight /comfort is a big issue for many. I can't highly recommend enough to buy an adapter that allows for a trop solo strap knit to help with weight. Game changer. Hopefully when Apple releases a more affordable model, it's lighter , and I think that will sell just as well as any Macbook Pro would IMO (I still wouldn't expect iphone like sales just yet, VR is not for everyone)
@joshuakarp2586
@joshuakarp2586 3 күн бұрын
Damn this was a great video! The hard work shows Brian!
@jeffhale1189
@jeffhale1189 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I appreciate the Vision Pro technology. Blessings on your day.
@Co-opSource
@Co-opSource 2 күн бұрын
Love mine. I use it regularly and am developing some apps for it. When a cheaper version is released developers will see the market grow. Here for it!
@nss0223
@nss0223 3 күн бұрын
It’s not dying it’s just gonna take time
@edicarlos4704
@edicarlos4704 3 күн бұрын
It is dying, it is literally dead.
@nss0223
@nss0223 3 күн бұрын
@@edicarlos4704 I work at retail and trust it’s not its only dead to you brokies that can’t afford one
@westmcgee9320
@westmcgee9320 2 күн бұрын
@@edicarlos4704it was only released in the US. Saying it’s dead now is just more silly doom & gloom.
@Jdevil21
@Jdevil21 3 күн бұрын
The updates for 2.0 are huge. So pumped
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 күн бұрын
No they're not. 🤣🤣🤣 Tell me you have low standards without telling me you have low standards. That wannabe 2.0 update is 1.1 at best aka those features should've been on the headset since DAY ONE LAUNCH.
@westmcgee9320
@westmcgee9320 2 күн бұрын
I don’t find them huge either but I’m a massive AVP fan and don’t subscribe to the doom & gloom.
@patrickklein2765
@patrickklein2765 3 күн бұрын
VisionPro is doing exactly what I expected following the initial hype. It is a very niche product with limited applicability to the majority of consumers and like 3-D TV's it is a hard sell to ask people to wear a heavy headset for hours to consume content. The closer they can get to regular eyewear the better and more market share they will gain.
@h00sha
@h00sha 3 күн бұрын
Champing at the bit here in Canada for July 12! Preorders this Friday!!
@westmcgee9320
@westmcgee9320 2 күн бұрын
It’s only been released in the US. Save the doom & gloom.
@TyKix
@TyKix 2 күн бұрын
I think something that people forget is Apple needs to incentivise Developers, currently they take a lot and expect a lot. If they offered a better payout option to developers and studios to work on a Vision Pro Applications in the mid term, it’s opportunity for the product to shine becomes greater. People need to see value in any product and if they are only getting a spec sheet as the reason why, It’s not enough and the price point is scary without a realistic reason to use it daily. They need to show people a daily use and make it like you said, comfort to wear for longer periods of time.
@CYCJTELEVISION08
@CYCJTELEVISION08 3 күн бұрын
It’s just a tad too expensive currently 😢
@KJ-ql4nm
@KJ-ql4nm 2 күн бұрын
Just say you’re broke
@soberanisfam1323
@soberanisfam1323 2 күн бұрын
@@KJ-ql4nmthe overwhelmingly majority are “broke” in a capitalist system. No way around it except another economic system
@westmcgee9320
@westmcgee9320 2 күн бұрын
I’ve seen so many people talking about the AVP costing 7x more than the Quest 3. I’ve seen no one then multiple the number of AVP units sold so that we can talk apples and apples. Because then, things get really interesting - especially for a first-gen Apple product.
@yxvm
@yxvm 2 күн бұрын
I predict Vision Pro usage will be exponentially more greater. It has already shown to be a great piece of hardware. Just needs the software integration for different uses and more people will get on that. Has a bright future.
@jasoncueva
@jasoncueva 3 күн бұрын
Great video! I have the VPs and they are fun to use with my Macbook, espcially now how the keyboard punches through the environment now! The latest beta update with the new placement of control panel and volume, etc. was much needed. Its a fun, but not necessary productivity tool, that I'm excited about the future with it.
@jasoncueva
@jasoncueva 3 күн бұрын
Also, Bora Bora at sunset is AMAZING
@kishanmaiyadahir
@kishanmaiyadahir 3 күн бұрын
Impressive video brother good information share
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Brian Tong! you are the best bud!
@briantong
@briantong 2 күн бұрын
You are!
@mmo5366
@mmo5366 2 күн бұрын
I think it’s partly that people get quickly underwhelmed with VR. I keep hearing plenty of people excited when they get it (VP or other VT headset) and after a bit of usage over a couple days or weeks or even months, before long they just kinda wander away and need come back. VR is better than ever, but still not easy enough for much more than a mind-blowing gimmick for most people.
@erikyoshi5549
@erikyoshi5549 3 күн бұрын
Keep up with the videos bro!
@erikyoshi5549
@erikyoshi5549 3 күн бұрын
72 views in 2 minutes impressive!
@rxdmac
@rxdmac 3 күн бұрын
I actually think they could soup up an M4 chip to replace the two chip system on the current Vision Pro and reduce the silicon costs to make a cheaper Vision product.
@jsytac
@jsytac 3 күн бұрын
I totally agree regarding the ‘sunglasses’ product. They should definitely be called iGlasses 🤣
@Lifeneverlost
@Lifeneverlost 2 күн бұрын
Baller takes! I would love some meta glasses competition
@HeyNickJ
@HeyNickJ 3 күн бұрын
I think Vision Pro is amazing. I don’t own one, but got to use it quite a bit. I think they probably could’ve figured out something else for the light seal and headband option. To make it more universal and not so customize.
@DjFuNkysara
@DjFuNkysara Күн бұрын
I was thinking the same meta glasses nailed it
@seanmcrae8506
@seanmcrae8506 2 күн бұрын
Love it for movies, but hate that there isn’t an easy way to sync up to a proper surround system. Any chance of seeing Apple TV4K support in 2.0? Or has anyone found an app that makes it possible to simulcast with AppleTV?
@Dma118
@Dma118 3 күн бұрын
Great video
@VisionProGamingGuy
@VisionProGamingGuy 3 күн бұрын
great job Brian. exciting things coming for Apple in the Vision Products space for sure. so excited about gaming on Vison Pro Games
@psjbrecords5252
@psjbrecords5252 3 күн бұрын
I’m Still waiting for it. I hope it will be available in Luxembourg soon
@JamieTorontoAtkinson
@JamieTorontoAtkinson 2 күн бұрын
The last thing that is missing is to be able to share persistence of AR objects. Meaning if I set screen layout in a certain way and other separate VP headset can access the same alignment and positioning of virtual objects. The second thing is to allow access to the lidar as part of their Enterprise API access feature.
@BatWayne6
@BatWayne6 3 күн бұрын
Just got one. Needs phone support. More iPhone native apps. Better api kit for devs to bring over the features they already use in their iOS apps. Ability to clear display of apps and leave environment on.
@wiljaq2773
@wiljaq2773 2 күн бұрын
I’m totally into Vision Pro tech and if I could afford one I’d definitely do it. But maybe in 5 years it’ll be at like the cost of my M1 MBP (when bought at release) and I’ll dive in!
@DietCoke88
@DietCoke88 Күн бұрын
As soon as I heard the news about not working on the next gen I went out and spent the $4,400 right away to buy one. Worth it by far! This thing is amazing. I just needed to know it wouldn’t be replaced for years to come. Now that I know that’s the case I’m happy with it. A cheaper model next year for poor people is fine but it’ll be stripped down on tech and features.
@chrisbee8009
@chrisbee8009 Күн бұрын
The pricing of the ‘standard’ or cheaper model will still be eye-watering 😂
@westmcgee9320
@westmcgee9320 2 күн бұрын
8:16 It is a “walk around and move experience.” But I guess that speaks to how you use it. I take and will take more 3D pics and videos - often out and about on vacation, or (carefully) playing with my kids, etc.
@deborahfrost7884
@deborahfrost7884 23 сағат бұрын
It's so hard to explain. I love my Vision Pro and I struggle to find enough things to do with it regularly. It still shows a lot of promise. #1 reason I use it now is to play Demeo and #2 is to watch movies (especially 3D).
@JamieTorontoAtkinson
@JamieTorontoAtkinson 21 сағат бұрын
I would also love to see 3d object persistence after you turn the device on and off. That would be amazing. Again allowing someone else with a vision pro to tap into your 3d layout
@larrythomas1330
@larrythomas1330 2 күн бұрын
Hey Brian, a solid video. The FOV needs to be like the Rokid AR Lite and I did not know the hand tracking went from 30 to 90 hz For ENTERPRISE related solutions, a better latency time of 90 would be very useful particularly when you combine that with the ability to use a mouse whatI’m talking about is tech and biotech stock trading options specifically that require a split second decision making and the headset ability with the visionOS 2 with the wide screen capability incorporating three screens at the same time would be very useful for that
@joelface
@joelface 3 күн бұрын
I am absolutely hoping to get the cheaper model of the Vision Pro when it comes out. I'd like to see it made with more light-weight materials as well. I also want a bit more focus from Apple on the VR side of things -- I'd like to see them partner with Sony to use the sony VR2 controllers and have access to Sony's VR2 games, and maybe offer some benefits to Sony in return.. that would be a good partnership, especially since they both have eye tracking. The tough part for Sony's VR2 has been building a big enough market to entice developers to actually make games for it, so I could see this working! But, I also think the further development of Sports apps and maybe a Netflix show or something made with immersive 3D VR180 video in super high resolution could REALLY sell it as well. It needs those truly killer apps still. One great feature would be a partnership with instagram or tiktok for a 3D-VR feed. Like a separate tab that features only the reels/etc that are made by creators filming in immersive video.
@larrythomas1330
@larrythomas1330 2 күн бұрын
Brian i just finished your video. Hey you should be a tech advisor in the PR department for sure for Apple. Your suggestion concerning the AR glasses like the meta ones that would be designed around Warby Parker or whatever is a spot on fantastic idea . 1. AR glasses based on what you just said which I totally agree. 2. Light headset for concerts sports, etc. like I put in my other discussion thread If those two areas could be incorporated by Apple, they would dominate this sector
@Championputt
@Championputt 2 күн бұрын
I just find it amazing, that how a creator, can ignore one of the possibly biggest downside of vision pro: loneliness
@marcdewain36
@marcdewain36 9 сағат бұрын
Price for the vision is the issue for normal people. Also, you are right a smart glasses line that has their beats and add in their new AI. Would take off.
@soberanisfam1323
@soberanisfam1323 2 күн бұрын
THANK YOU FOR CALLING IT FOOTBALL ⚽️!!!
@briantong
@briantong 2 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 I caught myself!
@Geoffwhite18
@Geoffwhite18 2 күн бұрын
the biggest problem with immersive content is quality. 4k is barely good enough for vr content. 8k looks great, but the size of the files is huge.
@huosb1768
@huosb1768 Күн бұрын
Apple, test w/pros @ SFO with air traffic controllers in ATC centers. Seems like a natural fit sending radar data into an AVP 3D virtual environment
@davidl1329
@davidl1329 Күн бұрын
It's a pie in the sky. It's like a concept car. I could see many of us using it in the future but will take some time to get there but not yet, not with that kind of price.
@VijayasarathyMuthu
@VijayasarathyMuthu 2 күн бұрын
They should give low cost eye glass as accessories. A low power smart chip enabled glass. Which can just see the screens or just one screen pinned using the main device. Like, when everybody wants to see a movie. Everybody pick one of those accessory glasses and enjoy the experience, it doesn’t have to be immersive as it is for the main user . It just have to let people participate in the event.
@darthstarone3532
@darthstarone3532 3 күн бұрын
I'm waiting on an astronomy app from Apple vision pro and a golf game 🎯
@cardogno
@cardogno 9 сағат бұрын
I hope AVP brings 3D back to market acceptance. I’ve been shooting 3D vid w my 15 Pro max, which is why I upgraded from 14
@in2minutesorless64
@in2minutesorless64 3 күн бұрын
Brian, you have the inside track with Apple. When do you think we will see the expanded Mac Virtual Display? We need that ASAP!
@ianig9
@ianig9 3 күн бұрын
Like most people, it’s the price along with the lack of software support. It’s a lot of money to pay for something with just a few use cases.
@PSy84
@PSy84 3 күн бұрын
that few use cases is a lot thought like your own IMAX 3D Theatre
@joelface
@joelface 3 күн бұрын
@@PSy84 But without a full catalogue of IMAX 3D movies to watch. If they can sell people on there being a ton of IMAX films on Apple TV, and that new Apple Original shows will be shot in such a format, then I think it would be extremely tempting for many, many movie lovers.
@THX1138_exe
@THX1138_exe 2 күн бұрын
I use my AVP just like my MBP16, 1-3 times a week For specific purposes. My Daily drivers are my iPhone 15 pro Max and my iPad Pro 13 M4.
@TestYourMightVR
@TestYourMightVR 2 күн бұрын
Here I'm waiting on an Apple Pencil to connect to it... Heck, imaging playing Beat Saber with it :)
@adamrhodes10
@adamrhodes10 3 күн бұрын
So true, Brian. Those two products would be amazing for Apple shareholders. Imagine a $1500 Apple Vision that requires an iPhone XX to run the device's brains. Plus, the glasses with Siri 2 working alongside Apple Intelligence could be game-changing.
@alexalvieadams8728
@alexalvieadams8728 3 күн бұрын
I tried the demo at Apple and it was really cool but needs to be under $2k for the offering. $4k is to much
@quatummind
@quatummind Күн бұрын
Trying to use the product as a medical device but there are major regulatory hurdles and it would help if Apple was more compliant.
@TheSuperdantural
@TheSuperdantural 3 күн бұрын
the prIce tag!!
@KJ-ql4nm
@KJ-ql4nm 2 күн бұрын
You’re broke
@Jackruby22
@Jackruby22 2 күн бұрын
@@KJ-ql4nm​​⁠​⁠ok “Mr big bucks”🙄 calling out people broke on every comment, just because they can’t/ or won’t spend $1000s on AVP isn’t going to help your cause… because what do you think will happen to AVP development if the general public believes its over-expensive… it’s not unheard of for Apple to shelve a failed product. Reality is, Apple needs general consumer buy-in… and will have a better chance of that with a more affordable headset.
@KJ-ql4nm
@KJ-ql4nm 2 күн бұрын
They could have easily implemented the A.i into the Vision Pro. It would make using it a game changer, I have one myself so, having a virtual assistant in augmented reality would be an amazing add on for productivity.
@barty8980
@barty8980 Күн бұрын
Don’t worry, at some Point, more AI functions will appear for Vision Pro.
@DennisMathias
@DennisMathias 2 күн бұрын
You're pretty much spot on. There are things on the VP that I wouldn't miss (if I had one). I don't need virtual eyes. Weight is a big issue and maybe they could offload some of that into a battery/cpu combo and make the VP more of an I/o device. And did I miss the audio solution? Ambient audio is not going to cut it. We'd need some sort of sound isolation to make it convincing. With optional feed through of course. All devices like this will be driven by content so that has to happen. Now, about Meta. I think they have a product that is overpriced and again the content is not there. They need to get AI in there yesterday. Don't leave us hanging. It's possible that the price point is still to high for middle class but hopefully that will come down but you have the glasses floor and those sunglasses are expensive anyway. Get the glasses component priceworthy and they'd kill the market. I don't think Apple will do that because at some point or another VR is still their bailiwick.
@brandonreed09
@brandonreed09 Күн бұрын
Totally agree about Warby Parker Apple Glasses idea. Been saying that for awhile. Especially now that they are moving into AI. They should also build a full TV.
@matthew-matthews
@matthew-matthews 2 күн бұрын
I find myself only using my Vision Pro to watch video, whether that be Netlfix or KZfaq, and the experience is lackluster simply due to big platforms such as those refusing to make apps for the platform. Sometimes I go weeks without even touching it because it is simply easier to just use my Mac.
@dansomers6726
@dansomers6726 Күн бұрын
I think it’s a great product but boy is it expensive! I do worry that it would make me bad after using for any length of time.
@JohnWallace74
@JohnWallace74 3 күн бұрын
Yes, the Apple Vision Pro is too expensive. Your idea to cut the cost by removing the external eye display, and tethering to another Apple device like the M series iPad Pro or M series Mac systems is a good idea, in addition to Apple possibly creating an iPhone with an M series chip… if the cost could be 1.5 - 2K starting price maybe I might look at one…
@joshuakarp2586
@joshuakarp2586 3 күн бұрын
Too expensive... and I really don't need one of these. Maybe I'm old....
@bobwitmer2492
@bobwitmer2492 3 күн бұрын
Look over your shoulder at the original Mac and consider what that cost when it was released and how limited the capabilities of it were at the time. It’s not for the mass market right now hence the Pro in the name. I think that Apple realizes that the most compelling use case for the average consumer is the immersive content (sports, concerts, TV) but to get content produced they need a large market so they have a chicken and egg. They’re prioritizing a lower cost model to get it in more hands. Regardless I’m convinced the Vision line will be successful.
@David-xt5ob
@David-xt5ob 3 күн бұрын
Companies been promising VR will be mainstream for over 20 years. Fundamentally the tech has usability issue which means it will always be an edge case. Lots of people don’t want something stuck to their face. AR in a sunglasses like setting has use cases and being not to bad I could see finding some success. But even then people are like, why you wearing sunglasses inside or at night, so now you need inside classes. Think this tech is always going to be edge use cases or people that just like tech.
@edicarlos4704
@edicarlos4704 3 күн бұрын
You realise that the original Mac took Apple to bankruptcy, right? Steve jobs Apple was not making money at all… they were in the red… I don’t think that will ever repeat again… I believe Apple Vision Pro has died a long time ago, Apple answer to shareholders, and at this moment it is a hard sell to mass produce a device that it can not sell… it is even more expensive in other countries…
@bobwitmer2492
@bobwitmer2492 2 күн бұрын
@@David-xt5ob Video phones were promised for over a century before they became common place. The spatial computer interface allows new capabilities that wasn’t possible before. Business are just learning how to exploit it (like NVidia’s Digital Twin technology). I was working for an Apple dealer when the original Macintosh was launched and I heard the same arguments then. I see a bigger shift here in human computer interface especially when combined with AI. Time will tell.
@chaotictattoo
@chaotictattoo 2 күн бұрын
I sent mine back. Watching movies. Insane. But that's about it. Needs more qpps and useful things. $3499 for a movie player doesn't cut it.
@papadougpapadougsadventures
@papadougpapadougsadventures 3 күн бұрын
I hope they release a pair of glasses for the mainstream market such as the Meta Ray-Ban glasses. I’m not sure how they thought the Vision Pro could possible be a profitable product.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 күн бұрын
The Vision Pro is NOT targeted at average consumers. The $3,500 price reflects that fact. Apple simply went with making a great 1st impression with high-end tech instead of a watered-down headset.
@dman7895
@dman7895 3 күн бұрын
i just made it into an Apple Store and was really really impressed by the demo of it. smaller and lighter than I thought. honestly they need a $1500 version yeah to still give you a reason to buy the $3500 version. im totally okay with plastic and high-end iphone thethered processing, less cameras at worse quality and no EyeSight. they need a dev ecosystem to get going. even if they have to cut back on the display quality inside or put a really old chip into it, it's worth a cheaper version to get into people's hands. even if thats just a one off and only the premium version sticks around. I would be in no hurry to update the premium current Vision Pro now, the display and audio quality will be amazing for years to come
@joelface
@joelface 3 күн бұрын
I agree with removing the Eyesight front screen, and switching to a plastic body. I'm not sure about removing cameras, but maybe some sacrifices could be made there, as long as it can still track your position well and your eye movement well, as those are absolutely crucial to using the device. I'm wary of the tethered-iphone though, as it essentially makes the Vision Pro into an iphone accessory... and means you have to actually upgrade your phone before you can buy the device... I think for a cheaper headset, that's maybe a tough ask (even if it makes sense). Especially since if you ever switch to an android or something you'd essentially be making your device useless.
@foeroon
@foeroon 3 күн бұрын
I‘d like them to support VR controllers for games or make their own ones. Get rid of the tethered battery, drop the front display, make it plastic instead of metal, get rid of a few sensors and maybe a slightly lower resolution display. I‘m mostly interested in their software and platform tie in.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 3 күн бұрын
The external battery is better for weight reduction and comfort. Only a naive fool would want lower resolution displays. 🤣🤣🤣 The current Vision Pro STILL doesn't have enough resolution per eye to qualify as "Retina" level. The resolution has to increase for future headsets. NOT be downgraded.
@joelface
@joelface 3 күн бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Have to agree with you... external battery is a fantastic design choice, especially since it's probably one of the first components to need replacement after several years, and also allows people to buy multiple batteries if they want to use the device for long hours without access to power. ALSO, agree with you about the displays... a downgrade there would defeat the purpose... that's what I MOST want about the current headset. However, I like the idea of VR controller support -- I think official support for the Sony VR2 controllers would be a great partnership if they also allowed cross-play of VR games between the two devices.
@camerastooge
@camerastooge 3 күн бұрын
I haven't gotten on yet because I haven't won the lottery yet. One killer feature for me would be if you could use the Vision Pro with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse/trackpad to control your Mac without opening it. Leave it in your backpack while you get to work. Surely that's possible, right?
@LungYang
@LungYang 3 күн бұрын
I returned mine because I need physical buttons on my hands. But the main reason is not enough things to do and my neck hurts.
@larrythomas1330
@larrythomas1330 2 күн бұрын
If they want to concentrate on a light version, go for it, making the price somewhere around 1999 maybe we even lower. But vision third-party app developers need to incorporate the ability to have services that will allow live streaming for concerts, sporting events, education, and travel. If they can’t achieve this with that lower price point with the services, I just mentioned Apple will have an indispensable device that will be Very important in every day activities. In other words, they will hit a home run just like UT did and winning the college football World Series I just watched the home coming parade . It was incredible
@WarlordMoA
@WarlordMoA Күн бұрын
For me personally I would love to see Apple create a cheaper model with macOS connectivity I do not mind the iPhone tethering but it needs better visual effects that gives you the matter of appearance you are in the future.
@RomeoTango3
@RomeoTango3 3 күн бұрын
Vision OS will probably get the iphone continuity function MacOS has. I don’t understand why the iPad can’t have this app.
@Jdevil21
@Jdevil21 3 күн бұрын
I hate that I have to raise my hand and look at my palm. I used to just gaze up. Now I have to move my neck to find my hand. It might as well just reach up and press the button
@oooooohmylisa
@oooooohmylisa 2 күн бұрын
My opinion is that in China, the sales volume cannot be that high, maybe toB will be a little more, because many geeks or digital enthusiasts have already bought it in the US
@Plexipal
@Plexipal 3 күн бұрын
It is too expensive
@landocal0
@landocal0 2 күн бұрын
I find it odd that working toward a cheaper Vision Pro was not the original plan.
@barty8980
@barty8980 Күн бұрын
It always was the eventual plan. But Apple had to prove the proof of concept so gave the first Vision Pro’s everything they could in the first iteration. That sets the bar VERY HIGH and any competitor has to price similarly or face big losses trying to provide similar quality at lesser prices. Apple’s business model is not to dominate a market but be the best in the market. At some Point, they can reduce costs by economies of scale or better yet cheaper parts, but still maintain the quality standards. Then revenues and margins are stabilized and profitable.
@RandzWRX
@RandzWRX 2 күн бұрын
Whats stopping me? MR Tong? Price is TGH! ( too goddam high!) Lol
@eddiemunoz3677
@eddiemunoz3677 2 күн бұрын
I’m in Australia it starts at $6000 for base model. NO WAY !!! Can buy specked out 13 iPad Pro and a M3Pro MacBook Pro.
@QuestionMeWillYou
@QuestionMeWillYou 3 күн бұрын
Also, This also reminds me of when Apple Watch was released. Tech reviews kept comparing the Apple Watch (with a Hi-Res color display, Heart Rate Monitor and other sensors, Bluetooth for music and accessories, GPS, etc) to the Simple FitBit of that time. Asking why the battery life didn’t equal FitBit! lol…… They were two completely different devices! Same with AVP and Quest. If Apple has a big challenge I actually don’t really think its price, for a PRO Market it’s not, They knew what they were releasing, they did research. The big challenge is getting people to understand that it is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN QUEST! The should not be compared. And you have people who had a Bad Quest Experience or a Bad VR experience with motion sickness and all… to understand that AVP is completely different.
@marcomm7543
@marcomm7543 3 күн бұрын
Nice. But toʻoʻooooooooo expensive
@MikeFields83
@MikeFields83 Күн бұрын
What’s up with it?? Uuuuuh the PRICE
@kruegdude
@kruegdude 3 күн бұрын
I keep wondering how removing the M series chip from the Apple Vision Pro will reduce its weight by any significant amount. I haven’t gone through any kind of analysis but those things weigh next to nothing, right?
@briantong
@briantong 3 күн бұрын
Take that and the components needed to support it. It's not just JUST popping off a chip.
@kruegdude
@kruegdude 3 күн бұрын
@@briantong You’ll still need displays, some processing so keep the r1 and its supporting components, power is still needed, cameras still needed. So a reduction in the M2 chips themselves, the circuit boards and connectors. Then you’d have to add the components to connect to the iPhone. As I said, I haven’t broken it down in detail but it doesn’t seem like we would see much reduction in weight by moving the processing to the iPhone.
@LeesReviews69
@LeesReviews69 Күн бұрын
AVP is going the way of PSVR 2
@wesleykelly2853
@wesleykelly2853 2 күн бұрын
Put the m2 chip inside the battery pack
@DietCoke88
@DietCoke88 Күн бұрын
Apple allows you to show anything in the developer beta since the developer beta is FREE and available for ALL users. Most of us already downloaded it.
@briantong
@briantong Күн бұрын
Have you read through all the terms or you just said ok, on your phone...😂😂😂
@Tjdryed
@Tjdryed 2 күн бұрын
I’m not a big gamer and $3500 is a lot for a portable big tv today. I know it can do much more but I can’t find a use case for me. It needs some killer app or a few must have experiences before I would even consider it. Currently, I don’t see a way for it to be commercially successful in the near future. Today(& I could change my mind in the future) it looks like one of the devices Apple stops talking about and a few years later quietly disappears. I don’t ever see me owning one.
@robtronik
@robtronik 2 күн бұрын
I want one as well, but waiting for software 2.0 to be released. Then I’ll bite.
@robtronik
@robtronik 2 күн бұрын
I also love my ray ban meta glasses. If Apple did a version of a similar offering I’d easily go with it over metas offering. I have prescription too - so it wasn’t inexpensive to get either.
@reviewsviewsandnews1942
@reviewsviewsandnews1942 3 күн бұрын
Price price price.
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