​@@yaldabaoth2it is a joke.

@@yaldabaoth2 there’s a whole rules lite segment of the gaming world that would call that claim into question. I’m enjoying the Kingmaker game enough that I’m probably rolling right into this one when I finish, but outside of a video game, the closest I’m coming to PF is the PF for Savage Worlds books. I respect a lot of their worldbuilding and design, but absent a computer doing much of the book-keeping for me, I’m not touching their system itself with a standard-issue 10 foot pole anymore. My tastes have just shifted away from the simulationist side of the hobby. That’s not to say rules-heavy games shouldn’t exist. PF, GURPS, and the like appeal to a set of gamers that deserve to have their wants met just the same as all the people playing Fate or PbtA should theirs, but acting like any move towards streamlining is a move towards an apocalypse for the industry is pretty farcical. Hell, PF’s origin was an act of streamlining, keeping what people liked about 3.X D&D, streamlining what they didn’t (I played a ton of 3.5, and not once did I roll up a cleric without at least 1 divine meta magic feat once those hit the table b/c those rules were a mess I had no interest in dealing with for example, or CMB/CMD vs D&D’s system), and not throwing the baby out with the bath water (as many felt 4e did).

He does go pretty in depth on a lot of subjects in the vid though. If you are familiar with crpg’s most the learning curve isn’t that bad. I only played dos2 before this and I think I got a good grasp on the game after act I.

​@@yaldabaoth2 isn't elden ring already an easy game by your logic? A watered down Rpg if you will.

@@yaldabaoth2 Absolutely not, this game is the perfect example of: How to NOT adapt a TTRPG into a video game, because unless you have extensive knowledge of said TTRPG, you can basically do nothing.

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I would just get Bluetooth earbuds not a great idea to have the phone so close to your head for a long period. It emits mini microwaves.

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That's why I don't play Pathfinder.

@@GetterRay nobody forced you to play it 🥹

That rule doesn't apply to a video-game stimulating the game. Otherwise I would have dipped after act 1 and charged into the worldwound solo or more than likely live and never come back. My gm would hate me but they can't name a campaign that hasn't gone off the rails. If you are reading this Justin do you remember the half of year we spent trying to start a tavern/brothel/ale house instead of stopping the tyrant king. FYI we finally killed the king by sending him a working girl to poison him because our establishment became so renowned and high class. To quote Justin "I am immensely disappointed most of my story went to waste" but it was fun tho

I also add in dead companions rise after combat. Anything that forces me to stop what I'm doing and take care of something because an enemy got a lucky roll detracts from the fun. Conversely, I also set enemy stats and difficulty to normal and 1.0, throw in more enemies and more behaviors to offset the fact that I'm making the game easier with my other choices. All of that puts the game in a sweet spot for me. Very enjoyable without being too hard or too easy.

I played on core and about a third of the way through I went in and changed this to on… “Removing conditions on rest” saved me soooo much time the rest of the way through.

@@fartloudYT in kingmaker I had issues but if you explore a tiny bit and have a proper built healer the only real issue you have is running out of death ward

taking care of status conditions kinda falls out of the scope of the campaign, you're a commander of a crusade with access to the kingdom's resources and thousands of people under your banner. Curing a status condition shouldn't be a problem unless it's some kind of a curse outside of the capabilities of the kingdom's best healers.

The problem is that is kind of stupid in a Game where 99.9% of shit does Conditions/Status and there are Million Encounters. Unlimited Resurrection is bad n00b cheese though. The Time Limit thing is also Bad Prehistoric Gimmick that no one needs in a +100 Hour Hardcore Crpg in 2022. Owlcat dropped the Ball Hard on that one when doing Kingmaker.

Fujin!

@@vaporsaver Fuji! 💜

I have played RPGs all my life, but not typically traditional D&D, although I know how it works. I came here cause I couldn't figure out what to do once i level up, let alone gave up trying to create a character.

Agree for the most part, but I think there's way too much dialogue. Every minor NPC will blurt out paragraph after paragraph of needlessly long-winded fluff. They could've conveyed the point of most conversations in half the amount of words.

@@dmtaboo_truth7052 I finished the game about two weeks ago, oh man after about 85% into the game, I kinda wanted it to be over. The ending is beautiful storytelling, but man it was just way too long. I finished it on the ps4 and let me tell ya, the loading screens were BRUTAL. I think more than 20% of my 100 hour playtime was loading screens

Get these feats and auto win basically: shake it off, combat reflexes, seize the moment(don't get doesn't stack with outflank), outflank = auto win basically

@@Frey12 Don't you need to get these on all your characters, or at least the front line ones...?

@@Nostromo2144 Correct and they are totally worth it. Actually, drop seize the moment as it apparently doesn't stack. And Shake it off needs at least 4 characters. However, pets count and pets can get teamwork feats after level 4. so one pet being ridden and you can automatically always be outflanking and on crit both pet and character can attack of opportunity. Shake it off is a personal choice as its up to 4 saves and with a +6 resistance cloak you basically have +10 saves with a single item and one feat which i think is worth it. After you get outflank, you need to try and get 18-20 crit threat range, then you get improve crit weapon at level 9/11. You start criting every 4th attack. If your entire team is melee and you have pets thats anywhere from 8 to 9 attacks after one party member crits. (My current team has 5 pets 6 melee)

Enjoy!

Both games are enjoyable (to me) - Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous. Own both. They also have a Warhammer 40K (Rogue Trader) CRPG game as their next offering. Though I hope Owlcat isn't done with the Pathfinder world too.

@@marchuitt I have a guess that they're going to come back with the Pathfinder 2E ruleset next time they make a PF game, and I really hope it comes true because I love the 3-action economy combat rules.

Dont let them discourage you. I mostly play on harder difficulties but for me there are few games I just wanna play for fun or for the story. What comes to mind right now is Resident Evil Series where I dont wanna deal with a single zombie that can take whole extended magazine and still fuckin survive. Its your game no game is perfect and there are bugs/glitches/shitty hitboxes. And especially game like this where everything is just random (which is the reason I dont play those type of rpg games because I cant stand the rng). Play how you want thats why the devs put the difficulties into their games.

Keep in mind, these are derived from tabletop RPGs. That means these games are *meant* to have a Dungeon Master, and a good DM is constantly tweaking the difficulty of the game to fit what the tone of the session calls for. When you are playing a solo CRPG like PF: WotR, that responsibility falls on your shoulders.

tbh even if i cant realy understand it (maybe bcs i actually play the table top) there is no shame in playing the game on low difficulty just to enjoy the story.

@@thomascheckie2394 Very good point.

Especially the pathfinder games can be so funny to play on lower difficulty. I've beaten the game on hardest difficulty without to much problems since I spend literally days on creaating min/max builds and exploiting everything. But since finishing it once I'm just playing on normal or casual mode and make really funny jank builds. There are so much funny builds than those who spent the first 2 minutes on every map to just cast the buffs on every character. Especially since the classes have a very different power level and classes like the swort saint have special abilities that deal with the problems you have on the highest difficulty.

Aiming area spells in real time is a bitch.

I still love the Chaos of Real Time in these Games. It's Perfect for People that already know the Game inside and out and exploiting A.I.

Being able to change it on the fly is a big plus for me. I can use RTWP in easy fights and swap to turn based for hard fights.

@@azku Yeah, that's what I usally do. RTwP for trash mobs, dealing with them only using normal auto attacks and TB when dealing with bosses OR when I want to experiment something new (new build, new spell/skill, etc). As it happens with D&D, in PF your characters become reaaaaaally strong as their level increases, and that's what I love in these systems, the tangible feeling of power progression. A LVL1 wizard is weaker than a bug, but a LVL 20 wizard is like the personification of the armageddon.

Good luck. I've taken part-time semester modules that are less complicated than this game.

@@windblownleaf6450 So true haha!

September 2 for Ps4 release

@@joeymacaroni4498 I think you meant 29th

Correct. It got delayed.

omfg that's too long

@@joeymacaroni4498 only moved from the beginning to the end of the month. Tbh I would rather they don't release it until it runs well. I couldn't finish kingmaker as kept crashing every 10mins in the last act. I ended up rage quitting and watched the ending on YT. I was playing it on my ps5 as well. After originally giving up on my PS4 Pro due to the load times, but the ps5 sped that up drastically.

This is exactly why I am here as well😄

Play divinity original sin 2 ....that game is on

Same

That is sadly an issue with pathfinder in general in my experience. It is built around min-maxed cheese, to the point of min-max or die.

@@tomleary508 That's 3.5e in a nutshell.

Glad its helpful, worth mentioning that this is not the same universe as DnD though. Pathfinder uses a different ruleset and setting. This game uses Pathfinder 1e specfically.

@@MortismalGaming very good to know!! I appreciate your knowledge on all of this. Having that context really does make the experience better.

This game is ruthless on higher diffs, even the normal diff is quite a challenge. On the highest diff the game becomes pure mathematics, where I did feel there is only one right way to build a char, one right spell setup etc

This mostly applies to Kingmaker as well, same system just more stuff in WotR