Soft Machine - Esther's Nosejob, Rehearsal 1969-04-25

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BassLudeman

BassLudeman

7 жыл бұрын

Soft Machine running Esther's Nosejob at Ronnie Scott's on April 25th, 1969. Broadcast on Forum Musiques a month later.
Soft Machine, at this point, was
Mike Ratledge - Organ
Hugh Hopper - Bass
Robert Wyatt - Drums, vocals

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@LudwolfBeethozart1485
@LudwolfBeethozart1485 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Ratledge is the most underrated musician of the multiverse... what a genius
@Alanoffer
@Alanoffer 6 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for all the French film crews lurking around in the sixties none this would ever have been recorded ,
@hellobonappetit1657
@hellobonappetit1657 6 жыл бұрын
you have a fair point, sir.
@bobgreen623
@bobgreen623 6 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the German TV companies who also filmed a lot of this stuff.
@marcfedak
@marcfedak 5 жыл бұрын
I think you're right, though the Germans were pretty good at recording all sorts of out-there music on "Beat Club". I'm not sure if they had Soft Machine on though, I'll have to check. Anyways, this video is incredible. The sinister, bone crunching fuzz bass, the massively distorted organ and super experimental keyboards of Mike Ratledge, and the frenetic, hard swinging free jazz space rock drumming of Robert Wyatt.
@adamphillips6865
@adamphillips6865 4 жыл бұрын
These guys were a musical force. So cool.
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 3 жыл бұрын
in englan' the tape would have been ERASED
@deee_carter
@deee_carter 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Wyatt is such an amazing wizard here!
@philtalbot9164
@philtalbot9164 Жыл бұрын
Great band - very underrated this trio for me was the best line up
@jacquesducrocq7673
@jacquesducrocq7673 Жыл бұрын
Quelle créativité pour l'époque ! 53 ans après, j'en suis toujours fan. Ratledge, Wyatt, Hooper, un trio qui a marqué l'histoire du jazz rock. Amazing
@jabu003
@jabu003 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Ratledge a totally underrated keyboard player.....
@greengenie7063
@greengenie7063 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated by who? He's an integral part of this incredible band...
@bremtremont2027
@bremtremont2027 4 жыл бұрын
@@greengenie7063 He's underrated because you never hear him mentioned anywhere, soft machine in general is a seldom talked about band. Obviously to fellow soft machine fans he's not underrated.
@theloniousratledge8835
@theloniousratledge8835 2 жыл бұрын
Totalmente vero. Infatti, quando si parla di Soft Machine, si parla di Wyatt, Hopper, Dean, Ayers. Il ruolo di Ratledge, importante, anzi preminente dal 1969 al 1972/73, è stato molto trascurato dalla critica musicale.
@mthzb
@mthzb Жыл бұрын
As much as I adore Keith Emerson and ELP, his spot light should've been Mike's
@Hiwatt100W1
@Hiwatt100W1 Жыл бұрын
You aren't kidding. He is incredible.
@MADROCKS221
@MADROCKS221 Жыл бұрын
Roberts Drumming here is absolutely blazing on fire - amazing. What a performance.
@gglegreff1858
@gglegreff1858 Жыл бұрын
Voilà ce que proposait la télévision à l'époque,...Quelle qualité ! Inventivité, des musiciens exceptionnrls, une richesse rythmique et harmonique de dingue, c'etait il y à 54 ans, 1969. 2023, cette musique est à des années - lumière de ce l'on nous gave actuellement......
@brunovallesmunoz4757
@brunovallesmunoz4757 2 жыл бұрын
Frantic drum work and haunting vocals...Thunderbolt bass chops....And a maniac keyboardist This line up was a roadroller!!!
@collinsteves7924
@collinsteves7924 4 жыл бұрын
In 2020, still hits just as hard
@LULLYxoxo
@LULLYxoxo 5 жыл бұрын
Volume Two was one of my first Canterbury albums, I was delighted by Wyatt's sense of humor. He's been such an inspiration to me, I really hope to become a jazz drummer some day.
@farshimelt
@farshimelt 5 жыл бұрын
From the moment you begin to improvise, you are a Jazz drummer. After that it's technique, knowledge and experience.
@johnsluggett1822
@johnsluggett1822 4 жыл бұрын
But don't forget about the music. Don't get pretentious or use technique just for its own sake lest you want to bore your listener to death. I don't listen to Elvin Jones for a lecture.
@postive-vibes
@postive-vibes 2 жыл бұрын
Read Wyatt's biography - you'll find it on Amazon. It's a great, sometimes sad, sometimes awe-inspiring story.
@thomascraymer8712
@thomascraymer8712 Жыл бұрын
And you will be a great jazz drummer some day! It's not an easy instrument though... I can play slower rhythms, but drumming requires not only both arms but also both legs to be co-ordinated, drums are among the most difficult instruments I've played! I'm sure you can do it though Soft Machine as a whole had a huge influence on my own musical style though, hugely underrated band
@gelsol
@gelsol 5 жыл бұрын
Wyatt was THE BEST for a split-second in time.
@samanthaserna6652
@samanthaserna6652 3 жыл бұрын
Their playing is so surreal it makes me feel like I'm in another worls, that's how great they are.
@seamusvuhthatsthedog
@seamusvuhthatsthedog 3 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt that robert wyatt, mike ratledge and Hugh hopper give us the best of them
@postive-vibes
@postive-vibes 2 жыл бұрын
Wyatt had such a small kit and got so much sound out of it.
@davidmarshall8201
@davidmarshall8201 Жыл бұрын
Kit was a gift from Mitch Mitchell
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 14 күн бұрын
​@davidmarshall8201 thank you Noel an' Mitchtchtchch
@user-kw3kc5hk8l
@user-kw3kc5hk8l 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! The great technique united with the authentic insanity and freedom of the spirit! Love Soft Machine at least for the spirit of freedom.
@simonprice8737
@simonprice8737 6 жыл бұрын
Used to dance my head off to these guys live, luverly, twas a beautiful free unique creative down the rabbit hole era, thanks for all the carrots !!!!??
@schizoidman4646
@schizoidman4646 6 жыл бұрын
Soft machine best era, psychedelic masterpiece!
@kosovoblues5019
@kosovoblues5019 5 жыл бұрын
in some passages ,with that keyboard ,sounds like a proto E.L.& P. .Ratledge was a pioneer of prog rock and S.F. one of the foundations of all that came after.Thanks to the people who film this
@pinba11wizzard
@pinba11wizzard 2 жыл бұрын
SM were much better than ELP though..
@TheRhythmaker
@TheRhythmaker 19 күн бұрын
Simply FANTASTIC! I wasn't aware of this! Truly inspiring!
@victorsantiago5470
@victorsantiago5470 6 жыл бұрын
true pioneers of prog rock jazz. .
@radiomindchatter7994
@radiomindchatter7994 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Vol 2 lineup..
@autistichead8137
@autistichead8137 Жыл бұрын
Incredible footage. Thanks so much. Like nothing before or since.
@adralicus
@adralicus 3 жыл бұрын
Totally brilliant!! Great footage and good camera angles. Pretty much at the top of their game..
@bobgreen623
@bobgreen623 6 жыл бұрын
What a glorious racket!
@migitur
@migitur 6 жыл бұрын
In this period, The Soft Machine was composed of only three members : Wyatt, Hopper and Ratledge.
@bobgreen623
@bobgreen623 5 жыл бұрын
Previous to that it was Wyatt, Ratledge and Kevin Ayers, another great lineup.
@billlloyd4029
@billlloyd4029 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Hopper played sax on Vol.2 (recorded around this time) as well as the early BBC Session version of Facelift, and occasionally live too. A little surprised he's not on this...
@orlandovallejos7460
@orlandovallejos7460 3 жыл бұрын
Well I never!
@Marc-lq2qf
@Marc-lq2qf 2 жыл бұрын
The three are really fantastic: Mike Ratledge very brilliant on organ , Robert Wyatt on drums and vocals, (his voice is so particular) , and Hugh Hopper on this astonishing bass, whose fuzz makes it sound near like a saturated 6 strings guitar, maybe with a little less power...
@RTDF516
@RTDF516 Жыл бұрын
@@Marc-lq2qf Ha! Listening to Hopper's buzz saw fuzz tone, think he, Jack Bruce and John Wetton might all have been fans of each other back then?
@ProfJazz
@ProfJazz 5 жыл бұрын
Machine in full flight !!!
@GeoffreyWarren-sd9bk
@GeoffreyWarren-sd9bk 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this.
@soulvigilante
@soulvigilante 6 жыл бұрын
You are truly doing God's work, my friend!
@matthewgaffney1955
@matthewgaffney1955 6 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for uploading this. first 4 albums Soft Machine is the greatest band ever.
@schizoidman4646
@schizoidman4646 4 жыл бұрын
you mean first 3! afterwards it becomes a non psychedelic jazz band.
@matthewgaffney1955
@matthewgaffney1955 3 жыл бұрын
@@schizoidman4646 i still like it in the background... long as Mike was involved it always had a bizarre beautiful angular sorta compositional bent. you're right though, the heart and wildness seemed to chill down over the years. "4" has wyatt's drumming at what i consider to be his absolute apex though, the opening track "teeth" is what a human in full ability and flow taste sounds like on the drums
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 3 жыл бұрын
ahh and the rest also. try moonjune records
@HIT_IT_RIGHT
@HIT_IT_RIGHT Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right ! No SM without RW !
@MegaCirse
@MegaCirse 4 жыл бұрын
Soft machine has always been an underrated group, but by listening to this, you can easily understand why! I just liked the first album with Kevin Ayers, then thereafter, Hatfield and the North and Henry Cow by evolution :)
@joepesarchick1021
@joepesarchick1021 6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for reposting this as it seems to get deleted a lot 😀! Footage like this is why I have a KZfaq account! Thanks again!!!
@carladiratz7090
@carladiratz7090 6 жыл бұрын
Huge THANKS for uploading this piece of History.Wow this is pure gold !
@vicentesalvadorpitrelli2092
@vicentesalvadorpitrelli2092 5 жыл бұрын
BassLudeman Gracias por compartir esta joya desde Argentina te mando saludos
@tomburns70
@tomburns70 4 жыл бұрын
These Boy's were born Brilliant !!
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 3 жыл бұрын
masters already. love robert's jimi h style hat.
@RichardRoland
@RichardRoland 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Thank You for uploading this one!
@harrylupino6196
@harrylupino6196 6 жыл бұрын
meetings with remarkable music.
@jesusmartinezcruz3543
@jesusmartinezcruz3543 3 жыл бұрын
I just read that chapter of Thomas Pynchon novel "V" :')
@muckamuckofgleep
@muckamuckofgleep 6 жыл бұрын
Way off up yonder, people will look back and see, despite the ever increasing sophistication of albums 'Three' and 'Four', that Soft Machine's 1969 BBC Radio recording of 'Moon In June' was quite possibly the highpoint of 'prog rock'........sad in a way that the excitement of this music - and of those times - seems, from today's standpoint, to be gone for ever ? I hope not..........we await something glorious, from some as yet unknown band, in the future...........
@billlloyd4029
@billlloyd4029 6 жыл бұрын
Check out the band 'Magic Bus' -- the UK one not the US one.
@farshimelt
@farshimelt 5 жыл бұрын
The cultural milieu is not conducive to this type of freedom and experimentation.
@jackbach8968
@jackbach8968 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT!! superbe document, un bon son et de belles images, merci à vous 🙏🙏
@jackbach8968
@jackbach8968 Жыл бұрын
Merci à vous
@geraldsanders9814
@geraldsanders9814 10 ай бұрын
Oh to be back in this era ,great stuff.
@allenwagley6956
@allenwagley6956 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing that Wyatt could sing and drum Pig
@alexanderkomov2951
@alexanderkomov2951 5 жыл бұрын
not Wyatt it's Ayers
@ledzeppelin1023
@ledzeppelin1023 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderkomov2951 you're mistaken! ayers wasn't present after soft machine's first album, this video doesn't include ayers.
@FiddlerNick
@FiddlerNick 5 жыл бұрын
In 7/8 too!
@suzycc
@suzycc 4 жыл бұрын
Complete seperation of body and mind.... never seen anything like him getting the words out during drumming like that!! Beyond mental
@theloniousratledge8835
@theloniousratledge8835 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderkomov2951 Ayers ha lasciato i Soft Machine subito dopo "The Soft Machine".
@d_walsh
@d_walsh 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@sonja5596
@sonja5596 2 жыл бұрын
vive la france means only french tv captured soft machine at their peak !
@colindonington6568
@colindonington6568 3 ай бұрын
Wow, that was enjoyable...
@khufukhnum4827
@khufukhnum4827 4 жыл бұрын
Che fenomeni! La mia band preferita insieme ai Pink Floyd 💚
@theloniousratledge8835
@theloniousratledge8835 2 жыл бұрын
Nel 1967, il timbro degli organi di Ratledge e Wright era identico.
@salvadorgutierrez5615
@salvadorgutierrez5615 5 жыл бұрын
Wooww, thank you ! ! !
@johnmenanno2152
@johnmenanno2152 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty heavy for their time ...
@klaus8456
@klaus8456 Жыл бұрын
Im still in debate that this Formation of Soft Machine(in early 1969) was perhaps the real first "birthplace"/"sighting" of (Jazz) Fusion. It came right before In a Silent Way(and ofc Bitches Brew) and already was WAY heavier than that or anything that was around up until King Crimson. Everybody classifies it as prog aswell but it just sounds already more like fusion and not prog.
@neomishagi
@neomishagi 3 жыл бұрын
this is fucking crazy !!!!!!!!!!!!
@michaelw.4434
@michaelw.4434 Жыл бұрын
Great and in real time,,not spliced sound over video that always ends up outta time!!..
@christophegrisez4416
@christophegrisez4416 10 ай бұрын
100 commentaires…. exceptionnel !!!
@user-ii1uh9mz3j
@user-ii1uh9mz3j 11 ай бұрын
Hugh Hopperくん「福寿」と書かれた半纏着てる〜!色付きの映像で見たかった
@petedixon2937
@petedixon2937 7 жыл бұрын
And Wow again!!!
@Graesie
@Graesie 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful sound on this. I'm just amazed at how tight they are, and on it. Meanwhile, the audience are in cerebral mode.
@concatinate
@concatinate Жыл бұрын
I know right, this is dansable music...
@jiggersotoole7823
@jiggersotoole7823 3 жыл бұрын
Even the advert in the middle can't spoil it!
@lazaruslaser
@lazaruslaser 2 жыл бұрын
Love Michaels organ bending... Fricken Awesome
@Ben9096
@Ben9096 Жыл бұрын
Part of a film featuring Lemmy in a band before hawkwind! Excellent!
@JSTNtheWZRD
@JSTNtheWZRD Жыл бұрын
What, Hugh hopper, hahaha
@Sandro-ov6gg
@Sandro-ov6gg 2 жыл бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🖤🇧🇷
@comradeleah6924
@comradeleah6924 6 ай бұрын
Power
@croiners4166
@croiners4166 7 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!
@lewlew67
@lewlew67 6 жыл бұрын
In Soft Machine that is. Bar vocalisations.
@Ozziak
@Ozziak 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT :):):)
@milomeliora7271
@milomeliora7271 5 жыл бұрын
Best cosa ever!
@9750939
@9750939 10 ай бұрын
I like Wyatt's drum solo here better than the one on the record, which is almost an anti-solo.
@yeoldmedic7572
@yeoldmedic7572 4 жыл бұрын
GO!
@angelsastremontalvo.y23
@angelsastremontalvo.y23 9 ай бұрын
mi grupo favorito ,yo con 16 años,flipaba porque no sonaba a lo que me habían educado....esto iba a ir a mejor?al parecer no,ahora hay regueton,etc.
@yes_head
@yes_head Жыл бұрын
This predates King Crimson's debut, but it's just as proggy (if not more so.) Which is why using ITCotCK as the starting point of progressive rock can be problematic. In places you can also hear where Egg lifted sections straight out for their early albums.
@JSTNtheWZRD
@JSTNtheWZRD Жыл бұрын
This indt prog, it's psychidelic, experimental, but certainly not prog at all - just master musicians going all out full of acid making music. King Crimson isn't prog either.....up tharrr
@dylanhoke8991
@dylanhoke8991 Жыл бұрын
​@@JSTNtheWZRD You just tainted your credibility when you said king crimson aren't prog.
@JSTNtheWZRD
@JSTNtheWZRD Жыл бұрын
@@dylanhoke8991 they aren't. Not at all. It would be like saying Arthur Brown or Matching Mole is prog., they're all just psych. Or here's another good example - Os Mutantes - was and will never be prog. either. People throw that word around at any polyphonic exploration these days. Another good example is Gorguts - some people would say it's progressive metal. It's just creative - Pink Floyd also just creative. There's alot of Gothenberg progressive blackmetal, and Opeth, Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer. But not Caravan or The Millennium, though it seems like it - dig?
@wojciechaleksander3236
@wojciechaleksander3236 2 жыл бұрын
Zajebiste.
@dantean
@dantean 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love English audiences: staring the band down like it's some sort of contest and they're hoping to win something. The idea that one is under some obligation to impersonate an oil painting when attending rock concerts is altogether mysterious to me.
@yes_head
@yes_head Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing this is in France. The French loved this stuff way more than anyone else. It's why Daevid Allen used France as the launching pad for Gong.
@dneville3874
@dneville3874 Жыл бұрын
This song title must be a reference to Thomas Pynchon's 1963 novel V. Chapter Four: "In Which Esther Gets a Nose Job"
@JSTNtheWZRD
@JSTNtheWZRD Жыл бұрын
I just wrote that in the comments, then I saw yours, maybe it will get more people to read Pynchon - he didn't write everything under his/or her name - but did most certainly write V.
@dneville3874
@dneville3874 Жыл бұрын
@@JSTNtheWZRD really? i didn't know that... what was written by another author?
@JSTNtheWZRD
@JSTNtheWZRD Жыл бұрын
@@dneville3874 not sure, but a few of his books (actually nobody knows who he really is so he can be a she) people have come forth claiming to know him, but people, well, I don't trust people - the association of American authors, writers has no information - I read in a college book about the crying of lot 49, that a few of his books were written by either a woman or an inner circle of friends, and were proven to be written by others later, recently. But I do know he wrote the crying of lot 49, V, gravity's rainbow, all the main ones - I do have reservations about the movie Joakim Phoenix was in - the book, "inherent vice". It's not his style - but I could be wrong..... V. is a masterpiece
@anotherdamn6c
@anotherdamn6c Жыл бұрын
As the later "The soft weed factor" was a take on the John Barth novel, "The Sot Weed Factor". Awesome writers, TP & JB, and important counterculture writers in the '60s who were doing to literature what SM was doing for music.
@schizoidman4646
@schizoidman4646 4 жыл бұрын
vive la france!
@theloniousratledge8835
@theloniousratledge8835 2 жыл бұрын
I Soft Machine erano inglesi.
@theloniousratledge8835
@theloniousratledge8835 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂🤣🤣
@hammer44head
@hammer44head 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it wasnt a nose job but a nasal corrective surgery where something wasnt working properly? I couldnt tell from the lyrics if she had the surgery or not?
@georgegkiouzelakis767
@georgegkiouzelakis767 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it is from the self-titled passage, or rather chapter, "Esther gets a nose job", from the debuting novel of Thomas Pynchon, V.. I am rather surprised to find no relevant mentions in any of the comments.
@lazaruslaser
@lazaruslaser 2 жыл бұрын
Who would of thought. Distortion and WaWa on Organ..
@JSTNtheWZRD
@JSTNtheWZRD Жыл бұрын
Brian Auger would
@orlandovallejos7460
@orlandovallejos7460 3 жыл бұрын
Heavy Metal recomendations...
@clarkthesharkshow9944
@clarkthesharkshow9944 Жыл бұрын
the earliest grunge band ,..but mixed with prog and jazz and zappa
@JSTNtheWZRD
@JSTNtheWZRD Жыл бұрын
It's not prog, man, jazz rock psych feeeuuusssiiiooonnn
@JSTNtheWZRD
@JSTNtheWZRD Жыл бұрын
And to the devil with zappa
@lewlew67
@lewlew67 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't Robert Wyatt more or less stop singing not long after this?
@pottedrodenttube
@pottedrodenttube 6 жыл бұрын
He did a couple more albums with The Soft Machine, I think up to #4, did 2 more with Machine Mole, fell out of a window, lost the use of his legs. Came back in 1974-75 with his first solo album Rock Bottom, still makes albums and sings.
@TLGProduktions
@TLGProduktions 6 жыл бұрын
Potted Rodent I'm pretty sure the others members were pushing for a more jazzy sound and vetoed the use of vocals after Third. From what I heard they refused to play the first half of Moon In June leaving Robert to record it himself until the keyboard solo part.
@lewlew67
@lewlew67 6 жыл бұрын
***** Sounds about right. He still say Moon in June at the Amougies, Actuel thing in Oct' 69 so that must have been the end then. Then just the vocalisations. Shame really.
@lewlew67
@lewlew67 6 жыл бұрын
lewlew67 sang!
@donegidiodabruzzo
@donegidiodabruzzo 6 жыл бұрын
Hopper and Ratledge told him to shut up ! Big mistake ! Soft machine died a short time later and this band turn to nothing
@tomburns70
@tomburns70 4 жыл бұрын
This commercial is annoying. Why does he snap his finger's. Just a tip: It's not necessary...!
@jgb8672
@jgb8672 5 жыл бұрын
Love the performance but Wyatt's vocals while drumming were kinda awful.
@ksjoyjespeace
@ksjoyjespeace 5 жыл бұрын
Plenty of room for the Electric Guitar stylings of ...JIMI HENDRIX.. . ...
@milomeliora7271
@milomeliora7271 5 жыл бұрын
A collaboration could have easily happened. He was a fan.
@christiandaelemans
@christiandaelemans 4 жыл бұрын
the drum kit kit was actually the thermogloss kit that mitch mitchell had in 1968, he gave the kit over sometime in 1969
@bobgreen623
@bobgreen623 4 жыл бұрын
@@milomeliora7271 yeah, but Hendrix would have to have filled the shoes of the remarkable Daevid Allen, the Softs original guitar player!
@LudaDavid
@LudaDavid 3 жыл бұрын
@Jeff Sylvester Sounds amazing! Where did you find that jewel, and how could I get access to it? :)
@dreamerlaurent8291
@dreamerlaurent8291 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see how Robert Wyatt was the face of this band, Mike Ratledge is way more of a phenomenal person musically and deserves much more credit than Robert Wyatt does. The only good thing about Wyatt is his drumming, which he lost when he was paralyzed.
@Hal9000ize
@Hal9000ize 3 жыл бұрын
@@dreamerlaurent8291 Honestly, had Kevin stayed in the band, he would have been the face of the group
@douggray8557
@douggray8557 3 жыл бұрын
All entitled to opinions, but frankly you make yourself out to be a toad with such a statement. Wyatt is hugely beloved figure in British music, and his drumming was just first page of a lengthy volume. Do approach his work with an open mind and hopefully you'll reach same conclusion. Cheers, mate.
@dreamerlaurent8291
@dreamerlaurent8291 3 жыл бұрын
@@douggray8557 I tried really hard to appreciate him but I can't bring myself to a point where I even tolerate him for anything other than his drumming. In my opinion his drumming was excellent but I won't get past how little I like his singing. It comes off as him not quite knowing how to use the human voice as an instrument. I understand that he's loved but my point is; Mike Ratledge was incredible and is largely overlooked.
@ianscarlett6884
@ianscarlett6884 2 жыл бұрын
@@dreamerlaurent8291 I'm not sure ratelidge really wanted to be the face of the band, I dont think I've ever really heard him talk, or even smile. Some people are content to be in the background
@drummersinger5324
@drummersinger5324 2 жыл бұрын
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