Solar plant room finishing touches

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Gridbusters

Gridbusters

Ай бұрын

Today I finally install all of the covers on the cable ducting as well as put the cover on the fuse box.
It's great to get everything finally finished and also address the problem of overheating in the plant room.

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@HouseboatRenovations
@HouseboatRenovations Ай бұрын
Add bifacial panels on adjustable rack or use them vertical as a fence. Cheap and lots of energy at low sun angles.
@offgriddreaming5403
@offgriddreaming5403 Ай бұрын
What a beautiful building you have there and a great off grid system. I enjoy your uploads. Thanks for sharing
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@VillageVidiot100
@VillageVidiot100 Ай бұрын
Your cerbo probably shipped with a temperature sensor. You can set this up to graph ambient plant room temp in the VRM. You can also set logic events to happen based on temperature parameters. My system is a very similar scale to yours and my plant room was also running a bit warm. I added ducted extraction to take the heat straight from the sources and blow it directly outside and it made a big difference for only a few watts of fans rather than hundreds of watts of AC. It would be pretty easy to model the solar output of your other roof elevation using a tool like open solar. You may be surprised by how much extra it would generate. I would guess it might be as much as 70% of what the main array manages panel for panel. Your isolators look a bit undersized for a 15kva quatro. It would be worth running a max output test to see how hot they get. As standard I now do a max output test on all the Victrons I put in and I look at all connections with a thermal camera. It is amazing how it can show up a bad crimp, dirty connection, under torqued connection etc.
@TheRonskiman
@TheRonskiman Ай бұрын
Was also going to suggest connecting a temperature sensor to the Cerbo. I actually removed my Victron isolater switch a few weeks back as under heavy load it was just getting too hot. I have isolators on the batteries and in the solar combiner boxes, so it was also surplus to requirements.
@chrisnortheast888
@chrisnortheast888 Ай бұрын
What about ground mounting some panels in the field just out the back of the house, along the line of bushes where the electricity pole is? You could bring the cables through into the back of the plant room. An almost vertical array in that position would be west facing and help with production later in the day, the bushes would offer some protection from the wind and it would be close enough to the house to be a bit more secure. Obviously you'd need to consider whether it would be affecting the view or light levels at the back of the house but it might be worth considering.
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Yes we definitely could do that we've got a massive field behind the house, the other thing we are considering is possibly putting a wind turbine in the field because it's quite windy in the winter.
@davidstewart1153
@davidstewart1153 Ай бұрын
Panels facing north might just be annoying for you because you can't sell the extra summer power. In the winter, you'll get something out of them even if they don't see any direct sun, just not very close to the panel rating. If you get snow, it lingers on north panels for quite a while. If good panels are super-cheap, it might be worth it.
@alaasadek2908
@alaasadek2908 Ай бұрын
There are split air conditioners that heats water in addition to the cooling and heating of the room. Best regards from Egypt.
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Wow I didn't realise this that's something I'll have to look into Wonder if they're available in France
@jamesjames9193
@jamesjames9193 Ай бұрын
Sarah, have you considered integrating vertical solar panels into your perimeter boundary or fence? Although they come at a higher initial cost, vertical solar panels offer distinct advantages. They remain cooler compared to traditional horizontally/diagonally mounted panels, thus mitigating performance drops caused by overheating. Additionally, vertical panels can be a space-efficient and aesthetically pleasing solution for generating solar energy.
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion however we don't have any fences and the boundary Hedges are way too far away but we do have literally acres of roof space as you can see...
@commuterbranchline8132
@commuterbranchline8132 Ай бұрын
@@Gridbusters-qx4omI’m considering an east/ west Bifacial solar fence install to augment our planned south facing 8 kw roof mounted array. The Bifacial panels would help in the early morning and late evening production and benefit from reflected light from the ground (albedo effect) which can lead to increased production compared to conventionally mounted panels.
@junkerzn7312
@junkerzn7312 Ай бұрын
You can definitely extend the daytime period where the solar is providing useful power by adding panel groups pointing in different directions. That can extend your overnight battery run-time a few more hours. Given how quickly the batteries fill up, it also sounds like you might want to add more battery storage. And that would also reduce constraints on vehicle charging. But for the most part, the system is working extremely well. I am quite envious at all the space you have arrange the panels and equipment! -Matt
@adamkuklych6672
@adamkuklych6672 Ай бұрын
I am also fitting out a Victron EV charging station, looks amazing I can't wait to get it working
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Wow let me know how it goes
@adamkuklych6672
@adamkuklych6672 Ай бұрын
@@Gridbusters-qx4om I'm running some very heavy duty wiring tomorrow and tomorrow night will add a circuit breaker and such for it, will keep you posted!
@98grand5point9
@98grand5point9 Ай бұрын
We do the same thing. Adjusting use by our harvesting of power. I hope to automate it more too so that I don't have to pay so much attention to use. I have 6 kw of South panels, 3 kw of East panels and have planned for 3 kw of West panels. When I added the East panels that was a big change. Those put out more power out than the South panels till about 10 AM. We do pretty well with this setup and 30 kw of battery. I believe that the West facing panels and another 10 kw of battery will make us pretty close to being able to disconnect from the utility power.
@SylwerDragon
@SylwerDragon Ай бұрын
it was funny to watch how you were bending that optic cable..haha. a bit more bending and that glass would brake.. that cable is very very delicate
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Wow I didn't even realise I was doing this I'll be more careful in future
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 Ай бұрын
In winter the sun is low and the days are short. Then you'll be happy for every sunshine that generates electricity for you. Make sure the batteries stay frost-free in winter.
@mubello
@mubello Ай бұрын
I dont know if you have a heat pump water heater already installed, if not, you can install one, especially the stiebel eltron one as it is very efficient. It can work like an air conditioner
@typxxilps
@typxxilps Ай бұрын
PICEA is your solution for the surplus energy stored in summer to be reused in winter . It generates Hydrogen in summer, stores that in bottles and powers in the winter your home by 1/3 using a fuel cell and by 2/3 to generate warm for the heating. But that is an expensive solution from Berlin, germany. A few of these have been installed in older houses and have gotten subsidies (big times) but they are quite expensive but do a full circle to become grid independent. The company is called HPS or home power system. They also have released some videos, a few of them in english.
@0xdeadc0de
@0xdeadc0de 23 күн бұрын
Put the roof full with solar panels and then you have power enough ;-)
@dc1544
@dc1544 Ай бұрын
I suggest an east/west facing fence with bifacial panels. leave .3 of a meter clearance on bottom. This will catch all morning and evening sun.
@typxxilps
@typxxilps Ай бұрын
16:44 - If you want to get rid off the heat then consider buying a french Atlantic Explorer Warm water Heatpump to generate warm water and cool the Victron Hall of fame. A split AC is about 1000€ at least and the Atlantic Explorer is a monoblock warm water system which comes with 2 ducts and one goes out side while the other sucks in the heat of the room to heat the water. More efficient to reuse the heat inside this room then to use energy to cool it down. We got one from the netherlands last year cause they had been a lot cheaper there than in germany. Not sure about french prices now cause we had only purchased the Wifi Kit from a french shop. This Atlantic Explorer is a SG ready device which means it can be triggered if you have excess energy from the roof - but again you would need a power management to prioritize how to use the excess energy: first the battery, then the car or rather the heat pump or the warm water heatpump ... Split AC are great, but bad and ugly if the device does not match the demand and gets into cycling cause the whole COP efficiency will be gone at least our experience with 2 big 5 kW Mitsubishi heatpumps each able to run at COP 5 or 6 from 7°C and above but not in reality . Takes a lot of effort to measure the output of such Split AC while the input is easy to measure. Unfrotunatelly the big mitsubishi can easily tend to cycle which will kill the COP and efficiency by a factor of 1 or 2 from 5 to just 3 in our situation. THerefore we tend to avoid the Split AC and use the warm water heatpump with a heat exchanger to heat the heating circle inside our diesel heater. This will generate warm water within 3 or 4 houts of sunshine and then heats the 280 L up to 62°C. We then use the 62° C water to heat the diesel heater kettle and pumpt the heat into the radiators cause the warm water heatpump is running fully without cycling while the big heatpump starts to cycle above 5°C as the split AC do too. It is easy to throw a Split AC into such room but it can be a waste of energy and investment once you realize that you could get warm water for cheap this way too instead of heating the environment. Atlantic Explorer is a french thing and Atlantic is a big company - as many employees as german Viessman now owned buy an american company.
@totty100
@totty100 Ай бұрын
@totty100 0 seconds ago Hi, cudos for building your batteries from a kit, a few months back. But....... Can I recommend that you invest in more or bigger batteries. I recently commissioned my Fogstar 15KWh battery and it's excellent with my Victron components. It's top quality and very cheap at £2,500 direct from Fogstar. You can connect up to 15 of these units together and they have auto internal heaters for winter. Bimble Solar now stock these batteries. Just a suggestion Keep making the videos please - love'em
@user-gu6ge6ns7x
@user-gu6ge6ns7x Ай бұрын
I’ve not come across much positive feedback on the Victron EV charger. Sounds like it needs a separate device for pen fault protection. I would investigate this before buying. Other option would be to look at a Zappi with CT, assuming you export? Do you export to the grid? Could you get credit for excess solar. No idea what tariffs are available in France. In the UK on Octopus Inelegant GO, you can export and get 15p credit for every KWh. The DNO in the UK do set an export limit thou, based on the local electrical infrastructure.
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
No we don't export to the grid at all can I really need a charger that will communicate directly with the victron system
@christopherstaples6758
@christopherstaples6758 Ай бұрын
I was pretty disappointed in the victron when I opened it up , jack all heatsink inside of them not even fins they are relying on fast air speed to cool them , I was expecting full resin covering circuits and large heatsinks that redirected heat into a cooling chamber so the electronics could be kept sealed and dirt free , but nope , not even a baffle inside to help with air flow ...
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Yes it does have quite allowed fan with a lot of airflow going through. Remember the Victron equipment is all guaranteed for five years
@SylwerDragon
@SylwerDragon Ай бұрын
Nice video. When you talk about render.do you mean like cement spraying onto the wall ..is it this kind of things..or it will be more traditional top coat with cement glue sand and such ??
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Yes we're spraying on a top coat very similar to a top coat off smooth cement that you sometimes see on the side of buildings. However we are using sand and lime. We're doing this all week so I hope to film some of it and post it to the Channel
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
I'm planning on installing two new batteries as well as more solar panels
@chrisnortheast888
@chrisnortheast888 Ай бұрын
What azimuth is the barn roof where you've installed the first lot of panels? I've heard you mention that it's south facing but looking at the shadows in a number of your videos it looks a bit more like south/south-east - about 160ish azimuth? What is the exact time of day of your peak output?
@daveingram8036
@daveingram8036 Ай бұрын
You are right Chris, the roof does face South South East, which is a bit weird as an old property you would have thought would be more aligned North/South or East/West for practical farming considerations. The core of this property was originally built in 1671 by the way.
@chrisnortheast888
@chrisnortheast888 Ай бұрын
@@daveingram8036 I'm wondering where I'd put additional panels if it were my property. Panels on the other side of the barn roof would give an output on a cloudy day that was not much less than the ones you've already got but I'm not sure I'd like to have them next to the road. There's the aesthetics to consider and, whilst I don't know what the rural crime is like there, I think I would rather have them less noticeable to the odd passing rural-criminal. If it was the UK then I could well imagine some chancer climbing onto their van roof and damaging some of the panels by trying to have away with them. I know you've got a bit of land with the property but how about detailing in a drone shot what exactly you've got to play with?
@SylwerDragon
@SylwerDragon Ай бұрын
No need to put panels on winter side..it is a bit waste..trust me.. i would suggest increase amount of battery banks..that is much better investment....even if you will buy some cheaper China battery banks it is much better option ..if you don't want to bother yourself with cells itselfs and such..
@misosoup777
@misosoup777 Ай бұрын
Another reason to have an AirCon in that room is your server rack. That absolutely should not run at over 30 all the time.
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. Ай бұрын
Do you export to the grid when you have excess solar? Something like Octopus Flux?
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
No we don't export to the grid we only use the grid connection purely as a backup source of power
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. Ай бұрын
@@Gridbusters-qx4om Would it be worth looking at grid export and being paid to generate power?
@dimitris8829
@dimitris8829 Ай бұрын
Please share your VRM statistics .
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Will do I'll put this in the description of all future videos
@SylwerDragon
@SylwerDragon Ай бұрын
Sorry for 3rd comment.. Portable AC is rubbish.. like in emergency it is OK...nothing special just OK..but if you want to be sure your equipment is cool i really suggest to go for AC that has split units.. ofc if possible and isn't too expensive use that one with inverter inside.. and you can be sure almost for 99% you can be sure during winter you will not need it....there is plenty of equipment that will do like 10 -15 degree all the time even if there will be -5 outside..no need to worry at all..
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Yes some portable air conditioners are complete waste of space I know exactly where you're coming from. However I did purchase one a few years back in my old house and it was absolutely brilliant so hopefully the new air conditioner which is meant to be arriving today works just as well however I am planning to install a mini split unit later in the year
@HenryOCarmichaelSmith
@HenryOCarmichaelSmith Ай бұрын
bending the fibre cable over 90 degrees between your fingers made me cringe.
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Ай бұрын
Wow I didn't notice If that I was doing that Thanks for telling me I'll be more careful in future Everything still works
@keyem4504
@keyem4504 Ай бұрын
Before you buy an expensive new charger, you might want to check the software "evcc". It works with Victron PV systems and a multitude of car chargers. It will automatically adjust the current for the car depending on the pv system.
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