Solar Wood Kiln build Nov/Dec 2020 SD 480p

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Dave LeBleu Woodworking

Dave LeBleu Woodworking

3 жыл бұрын

Solar wood kiln based on the Virginia Tech model, but slightly smaller

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@davidfowler7558
@davidfowler7558 Жыл бұрын
What an outstanding build and attention to detail! Job well done! Thanks!
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. It works great.
@denismorissette419
@denismorissette419 2 жыл бұрын
I can see that you love things well done. It is not only a very right and precise construction but it is also beautiful to look at. Tanks!!
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Well done or why bother.
@johnschuster9192
@johnschuster9192 2 жыл бұрын
I like this idea a bunch..Hopefully I can get a unit built this winter..Thanks so much!
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
The other thing I consciously did when building it was to put it on blocks so that if I ended up not needing it anymore I could sell it and have it removed easily
@huytang7225
@huytang7225 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! this is great idea, awesome videos.
@twigglykevin
@twigglykevin 3 жыл бұрын
every time i said to myself you should do this or you need that, you added it great video.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it.
@adamfronczak8157
@adamfronczak8157 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job thanks for making the video . I’m gonna build one pretty similar to this from what I’ve read online this design seems to be working fairly well for everybody. I have some available BTUs of heat from my outdoor boiler that I was thinking about piping into the kiln . My thought was to put The extra zone on a aquastat and timer to give it a quicker heat up in the mornings and a higher constant temperature throughout the day. I am in Northern Maine and morning temps are below 0 quite often.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea with the free BTU's. Last year was a tough winter for sunlight outside of Boston, so it took a long time for the first load to dry. Came out great though-finally. My design is basically the Virginia Tech version but scaled down since I won't use it for large amounts of wood that often.
@kupkakexo1798
@kupkakexo1798 2 жыл бұрын
@@davelebleuwoodworking127 you live in Boston? I use to live in Boston. I live just outside Worcester now!
@koreyfreemanofficial
@koreyfreemanofficial Жыл бұрын
Great build!
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. It was fun and works great.
@chasjacks9378
@chasjacks9378 2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked more detail and video but, it looks great and will work like a charm.
@tomzed8696
@tomzed8696 3 жыл бұрын
Good work!
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheUserid82
@TheUserid82 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the build but a few things you can add to improve it are. Eye bolts on the sleepers under the stack of wood so you can strap it down with ratchet straps to help keep the wood from twisting in the drying process and they make automatic vents for greenhouses that you can add to the output to automatically open and close them for you when it hits the temp you want inside. Have you looked around the area for others with small setups to rent out space inside? no reason to have it go empty when you can make an easy $50+ a month holding some lumber for others
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't mention it but I have granite counter remnants painted black on top of each pile to hold everything flat while it's drying. They are probably 100 pounds on each end and the middle. Thanks for your comments. I appreciate it.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Was given a nice 10' White Oak log and needed to figure out how to get it onto and off my trailer so I could take it home and cut it into boards with Millie (my chainsaw Mill). I ended up using an electric winch, which worked great. I posted a video on how I did it.
@jbbrown7907
@jbbrown7907 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty good.
@TheHomePros6221
@TheHomePros6221 2 жыл бұрын
Hot air rises so it sucks cool air from the bottom and expels hot air through the top, make sure the fans are blowing the correct direction
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
You would think that's the case. I added a couple baffles just below the top vents. That helps. The fans are blowing in the right direction.
@logangarland6434
@logangarland6434 2 ай бұрын
Awsomeeee build would love to see the exact specs or your frame
@dysfunctional_vet
@dysfunctional_vet 3 жыл бұрын
well done.....thumbs up
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@hnican
@hnican 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Fantastic kiln! We just finished the skeleton of ours yesterday and are using similar fans to what you’ve got going there. I wanted to ask, what are you using for your vinyl baffle, and where did you get it? Thanks in advance for your time!
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
The vinyl is heavy duty vinyl my father had left over from about 20 years ago. It's got strong poly fibers in it which makes it very strong. I think you could probably use marine vinyl seconds. i recommend marineVinylFabric.com I've bought vinyl for my boat seats from them and their customer support is excellent. I bet they have seconds you could get at a reasonable price.
@someonestrange9489
@someonestrange9489 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you are supposed to bear weight on the face of a block. They cant take nearly as much compression in that orientation.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for catching that. I did some research and you are correct. Once I get the current load of wood out I will change their orientation or switch them out with wood blocks.
@someonestrange9489
@someonestrange9489 3 жыл бұрын
@@davelebleuwoodworking127 Glad to help. Would hate to see a collapse if you put a big load in there.
@clerivanocardoso2308
@clerivanocardoso2308 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I just finished my kiln and wasn’t sure about how to vent and this helped me a lot . Can you please let me know where u find the fans u have . I’m from ma as well ( the Berkshire) thanks
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 Жыл бұрын
smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08FF9Q5JH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I got the fans on Amazon. They are great. I'm trying to find the link to the thermostat that turns them on.
@clerivanocardoso2308
@clerivanocardoso2308 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave hope you and family have a happy new year. 🙏🏾
@gordonfrank
@gordonfrank Жыл бұрын
Please give detail on fans. Size, where you bot them, etc. Nice build. Hope it's working good for you.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 Жыл бұрын
Thought I had already replied. Sorry for the delay. I got them on Amazon. iLIVING 12" Shutter Exhaust Fan with Thermospeed(TM) controller, 65W, 960 CFM, Silver (ILG8SF12V-ST)
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 Жыл бұрын
The fans work great. The only caution is when the wood is dry I unplugged the fans. It got so hot in the kiln the thermostat controller melted a little. I ended up covering the whole kiln unit with a silver tarp while not in use to keep the temps down.
@shawnrogan1677
@shawnrogan1677 3 жыл бұрын
Great build! Would you be so kind as to list the materials used for the fans? Where to buy, etc...building one in the spring/summer this year.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
I got them at Amazon. They each came with the temperature activated switch. I only use one switch so they both turn on and off at the same time. I got metal fans so they won’t melt when it gets really hot on there. My thinking was buy once cry once regarding the cost.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
iLIVING 12" Shutter Exhaust Fan with Thermospeed(TM) controller, 65W, 960 CFM, Silver (ILG8SF12V-ST) link to the fan
@shawnrogan1677
@shawnrogan1677 3 жыл бұрын
@@davelebleuwoodworking127 thank you!
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow will be 4 weeks since I put the first load of wood in the kiln. Some areas are at 17-20% moisture content. It has steadily gone down. I ran it about 2 1/2 weeks with the vents closed completely. I opened them about 1/2-3/4" each for the last week and a half. Seems to be working. On a sunny day it gets between 75-85 degrees inside with a temp of 30-40 degrees outside. At night, when the fans shut off, there is lots of condensation on the roof (clear front, so to speak). As I mention in the video, I have the fans set to go on at about 74 degrees.
@AdolphusOfBlood
@AdolphusOfBlood 3 жыл бұрын
74C or 74F?
@leviholliday3198
@leviholliday3198 2 жыл бұрын
Where is a list of materials used?
@ZeeFrankensteel
@ZeeFrankensteel Жыл бұрын
@@AdolphusOfBlood F 30-40 outside, mentions it is cold, so it is Faren.. so 74F inthe kiln is not bad for winter.
@jerrylittle8922
@jerrylittle8922 3 жыл бұрын
Hey . Nice work. Can you give us an update sometime on how its working for you ?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
just posted a public update. Thanks for the compliment.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Nice full sun day today. It's 28 degrees outside and 100 degrees inside the kiln. I have the vents open about an inch. This is the highest temp it's reached so far. I wonder if I should open the vents more or keep them where they are? Anybody have any insights on venting?
@davidbalgosky4107
@davidbalgosky4107 3 жыл бұрын
Let it get as hot as you can to kill any bugs. I have had mine get over 120 in PA in the spring
@AdolphusOfBlood
@AdolphusOfBlood 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbalgosky4107 From my research you need at least 130F (55C) for at least 2 hours at peak during the day to kill the post Beatles of NA. Ideally take it to 160F (70C). As for if you should vent it more, I'd say no, but it is a option you have, winter air is extremely dry, so if you can get a higher air change rate you'll get a faster dry rate due to the relative humidity being so low for the incoming air. That being said it depends on if you want a more gentle drying process or not, taking as much water out as you can as fast as you can has downsides.
@LucLeb.
@LucLeb. 3 жыл бұрын
The area next to the kiln towards the woods looks awfully good for styrofoam boat storage, have you thought of doing that?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
been there, done that, moved on.
@Sambo16
@Sambo16 3 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful to see. Thanks for showing all the details for your solar kiln. What part of MA are you in? I'm out in the Berks, trying to convince my wife to let me build this in my backyard! I sketched up a general concept last weekend and it looks just about like yours! I'm guessing the pitch of the roof is 55ish degrees? Thanks again for the vid!
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
I think the pitch of the roof on mine was about 42 degrees +/- Boston's latitude. I think I mention it in my original video. I say build it then inform the wife. Forgiveness is easier than permission. lol
@Sambo16
@Sambo16 3 жыл бұрын
@@davelebleuwoodworking127 I've got a few projects on the forgiveness list, not sure I can add another lol!
@kupkakexo1798
@kupkakexo1798 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sambo16 worcestet mass here 😎
@Lucas-pv2wn
@Lucas-pv2wn 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I’m convinced. How long did it take to dry?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
I put the original lumber in on Dec 15th and removed it a few weeks ago. There were not many sunny days through January and February so it took quite a long time. Now I have a load of white oak in there and I think it's drying fairly quickly.
@robertol.2716
@robertol.2716 3 жыл бұрын
Great looking kiln! What would you say are the total hours you put into the project from start to finish?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes! If I reply to your question and my wife sees I might be in trouble. lol Probably about 4 or 5 hours (total lie).
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I normally track hours for each project but did not for this one. I would guess it took about 25 hours over a bunch of days. Having and using a nail gun cut out a lot of time hammering nails.
@minutemandave
@minutemandave 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a mill and I’m in Stow Mass. it’s nice to see results from the area. Is there anything you would’ve done differently now that you’ve run it for a while? Thanks,Dave.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the only thing, which I believe I mentioned in the video, is to make it about 2" less wide. That way the front clear panels would overlap the left edge better. I had to put a small piece of flashing there.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
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@woodatuse
@woodatuse 3 жыл бұрын
I'm down in CT and just built one of these myself last year. My high Temps were getting to almost 200 degrees in July/August it was pretty crazy. When you open your bottom vents can you feel your fans pushing air out of the kiln? I don't think my fans are strong enough
@woodatuse
@woodatuse 3 жыл бұрын
Also awesome work! Looks great!
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
For the first couple weeks I had the vents closed. There seemed to be a lot of condensation building up on the inside of the roof. I then opened them about 1/2"--there are four vents up higher and four lower. Then a week or so ago I opened them about 1-1 1/2" and it seems to be working well. The moisture content has gone down each week and the built up condensation seems to be dissipating. We've had some nice sunny days. Outside it's 25-35 degrees. Inside it's 80-90 degrees. I don't necessarily feel the air exiting the vents but it must be working. I'm due to take moisture readings on Wednesday and will post any changes. Do you cover your kiln with a tarp or something when not in use, especially in the summer? My wife and daughter think they have a sauna coming. ha
@woodatuse
@woodatuse 3 жыл бұрын
I do not cover it, but I may use that as an option I did not think of it. I need to work on a little better insulating and I should be close to 100 degrees in the winter. I also purchased a sensor push to record my Temps and humidity during the day it works very well.
@calincalabrese6260
@calincalabrese6260 3 жыл бұрын
Where in ct? I'm in Clinton looking to build one too
@woodatuse
@woodatuse 3 жыл бұрын
@@calincalabrese6260 litchfield
@eduardo_k
@eduardo_k 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea what the relative humidity is inside the shed?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know for sure. When I see lots of condensation I make sure the vents are open so it will dissipate. Lately we have not had many Sunny days so the moisture content in the boards hasn’t moved much.
@ewetoobblowzdogg8410
@ewetoobblowzdogg8410 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell by the video as I'm seeing this on my phone, but it didn't seem like you left much of an air gap between your rigid insulation in your floor under the sheathing. A half inch gap is recommended for maximum R value
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
Aha. Didn’t know that. Good catch. Fortunately the kiln has worked well. If I ever make another ( not gonna happen) I’ll incorporate the space. Lol. Thanks for commenting.
@Mwfrizzellandsons
@Mwfrizzellandsons 2 жыл бұрын
Block has no strength on edge. Fill them solid. They may crush. Great video. Thank you.
@donny_bahama
@donny_bahama 3 жыл бұрын
It’s been 5 months. How about an update on the results. How much wood do you have that’s fully dried and how long did it take? What’s the moisture content on the wood that you’re calling done? Anything you wish you’d done differently?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Donny. I dried about 120 board feet of Black Locust from Dec-March. It is in my workshop stickered, waiting to be made into an armoire for my wife, the Queen, empress of all. It is 6-8% moisture content for most of it. the boards range from 14" wide to about 6" wide. I dried it with the bark on, then cut the sapwood off. 90% of it is 4/4. Then I have several 5/4 boards with a slightly higher moisture content, about 10%. That surprised me. The second load of lumber is White Oak. I cut up a 10' log into 8/4 slabs. I also had some 4/4 White Oak I had cut earlier that was air drying. There is probably about 150 board feet of White Oak in total. I'm hoping to make some doors using the White Oak. The Oak has been dry for a while-probably at least a month. It's still in the kiln but I disengaged the fans, rolled up the black vinyl, and opened the vents to keep the temp from getting too hot. Using a kiln is new to me so I'm learning as I go. I'm disappointed in the White Oak checking. Even the boards I air dried for over a year have checking. I painted the ends and stickered them as soon as they were dimensioned. I also found most of the boards have shrunk. Boards I cut to 4/4 are a little thinner. I think I'll mill them slightly oversized next time. I had read that Black Locust is one of the hardest, most dense woods out there. Harder than Maple or Oak. It's looks and feels similar to Black Cherry but doesn't cut as well-since it's so hard. It'll be interesting to work with it more. I'm hoping to make a short update video soon. I'll post the link here. Sorry about writing a novel here. Dave
@donny_bahama
@donny_bahama 3 жыл бұрын
@@davelebleuwoodworking127 Thanks for the update, Dave! I appreciate the thorough, detailed response. Kiln drying may be new to you, but you’re an old veteran compared to me! So you’re able to dry 4/4 boards to 6-8% in about 3 months? That’s awesome! Bummer about the white oak. I don’t have any advice for you on that (maybe post a question on one of the big woodworking forums like Saw Mill Creek or Lumberjacks?) but it’s pretty cool that you have to worry about the temp getting too hot! And that you have a good way of regulating that. Anything you wish you had done differently in building the kiln.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
As you can see I have 4 vents down low and 4 up, kinda behind the fans. The funny thing is that I can feel warm air being expelled from the higher vents and cool air drawn into the lower vents. Doesn't seem logical. The fans are definitely blowing air toward the clear roof but somehow drawing air from down low. Any idea why that would be? I would think the cool air would be drawn from the higher vents. Go figure???
@highjuice
@highjuice 3 жыл бұрын
I think you might need a baffle to direct the air from the fans down the front of the kiln, the clear front, which should then be expelled through the lower vents as it's drawn through the stack.
@MickeyD1968
@MickeyD1968 3 жыл бұрын
Convection. Heat rises. I think you might be better off turning the fans around so they are drawing air UP the clear panels instead of trying to force it down. You're using solar power to heat the place, use it for the air flow as well. You might find you don't even need the fans.
@danielvrana9444
@danielvrana9444 3 жыл бұрын
Let us know how the mice did? Please tell us if they made homes in it? Thanks
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
No mice. The doors close tightly and I have screens in each vent. That said mice are very industrious.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
Ok. Turns out one mouse found its way in. I put a trap out and caught it in one night. No more unwanted visitors since. I have a trap just a waitin'
@moonpup6262
@moonpup6262 3 жыл бұрын
how about some solar panels to power the fans?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
I thought about that but I don't use the kiln enough to justify the expense.
@trevordeane3940
@trevordeane3940 3 жыл бұрын
Looks really good but I did not see a link for the plans. Do I just look up Virginia Tech?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I based it on the VT plans then scaled it down just a bit after watching a bunch of other kiln videos.
@user-wp4dh4wh7l
@user-wp4dh4wh7l 3 жыл бұрын
how long does wood dry?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
It took about 3 full months to dry. I think this was because it was winter with few sunny days. As soon as it got sunny the drying accelerated.
@thewalnutwoodworker6136
@thewalnutwoodworker6136 2 жыл бұрын
How much did this cost to build?
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! I think it was north of $1500 but I don't have the exact number.
@skipbickford3970
@skipbickford3970 Жыл бұрын
👍
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@backwoodsmedia6865
@backwoodsmedia6865 Жыл бұрын
link to fans used please
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 Жыл бұрын
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08FF9Q5JH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 Жыл бұрын
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZV591B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 Жыл бұрын
The thermostat controller works great. However, I should have put it either outside or in the back part of the kiln as the cover melted at one point. I guess that means the kiln works well. :)
@backwoodsmedia6865
@backwoodsmedia6865 Жыл бұрын
@@davelebleuwoodworking127 thank you
@backwoodsmedia6865
@backwoodsmedia6865 Жыл бұрын
How did you hook it up for solar
@garywink4383
@garywink4383 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but really lacking on inside views. Too many things you talk about but cant see what you are talking about
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary. I was flying by the seat of my pants.
@davelebleuwoodworking127
@davelebleuwoodworking127 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbWoebSbubSaeJc.html Here's the link
@Peter-od7op
@Peter-od7op 4 ай бұрын
So sad you. Live In mass
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