Solid Hydrogen Explained (Again) - Is it the Future of Energy Storage?

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Corrections: I've trimmed out a couple of sections from this video that misstated some facts about Plasma Kinetics and hydrogen production. I apologize for any confusion around this. As I mention in the video, I'm learning and trying to make each video better than the last. Thanks for the feedback.
Near the end of last year I published a video on solid hydrogen storage and it got a lot of questions, critiques, and push back from some of you. In trying to simplify a pretty complex topic, I oversimplified some things, which created problems. So is solid hydrogen storage actually a thing? Is solid hydrogen currently being used? Let’s take another crack at solid hydrogen energy storage and try to address some of the shortcomings of my last video.
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01:08 - What are metal hydrides?
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@KafshakTashtak Жыл бұрын

I have done PhD research on this topic. The Metal hydride we were going to use was very very expensive which made it unpractical. But we shifted focus to Solid State Ammonia storage which can be used for hydrogen storage as well. The principle is exactly the same, except it works with halides. Some metallic hallides can store ammonia at very high gravimetric storage densities which makes it competitive to solid state hydrogen storage. The operation pressures are not high, materials are inexpensive and environmentally safe, and the storage pressure is below room temperature, so there is no risk of leaking.

@niallmccourt Жыл бұрын

Would love to know more on this

@infocat13 Жыл бұрын

Use this and battery storage for shipping at sea, Off shore wind and solar for recharging.

@infocat13 Жыл бұрын

North Sea wind to recharge ships at Rotterdam:)

@KafshakTashtak Жыл бұрын

You can look into ASME Power and Energy conference, Journal of heat and mass transfer, and Journal of Energy resources technology. You need to find papers on the topic.

@lazyremnant380 Жыл бұрын

In your opinion, do you think it's possible for metal hydrides to replace LH2 on rockets someday? Is it possible for hydrides to release its hydrogens fast enough to satisfy the huge mass flow requirement (kilograms per seconds) of a rocket?

@cartossin Жыл бұрын

Please address all the points in the busted. I know he's snarky, but he's a credible scientist making correct points. It's dangerous to promote disproven concepts.

@LoneWolf0648 Жыл бұрын

this whole channel is "amazing new material" or "major breakthrough" and other clickbait titles... the LACK of proper research done is obvious and it comes out as more of an ad for the company making this impossible product, like the solar roadways that have failed over and over.

@olegglushko8124 Жыл бұрын

@@LoneWolf0648 It's beyond obvious to anyone who uses their brains on a daily basis

@stefengullicksen314 Жыл бұрын

Matt the physics don't add up.

@00coon00 Жыл бұрын

This channel is bullshit

@englishrupe01 Жыл бұрын

@@JS-xf4ov LMAO

@brushstroke3733 Жыл бұрын

Why can't we challenge a person who consistently puts out unscientific claims he repeats from not so credible or reliable sources?

@stephencrowther524 Жыл бұрын

You can,put out videos of your own,or be specific in your critiques.

@Kwolfx 10 ай бұрын

@@stephencrowther524 - Well, for one metal hydrides are not referred to as solid state batteries, because they are not that. They have the potential to be used in a solid state battery, but by themselves they are not batteries. You have to have electrodes attached first and a specific place to attach them. That's kind of a basic error and it's made in the first 30 seconds of the video. Using fuel cells in a submarine works, the idea it could be used in any kind of aircraft is insane. The weight makes it impossible. Matt compares, the energy storage of GKM pellets to the energy stored in the lithium ion battery in a Tesla 3. OK fine, but you can't actually use it in a car or vertical take off aircraft. You have to heat up the pellets but you don't have to heat up a lithium ion battery. You just hook it up to an electric motor and it works. Heating up the GKM pellets takes space and the weight of the equipment that does the heating. Then there's the fuel cell and it's weight. Then there's the engine that actually burns the hydrogen. Not only do you have to take it's weight into account, there will be heat energy lost in that process, a lot of it. Plus, I forgot the energy needed just to get the hydrogen in the first place, seeing as there aren't any natural pools of hydrogen we can draw on. At least Matt mentions the efficiency; make that lack of efficiency, of hydrogen as a fuel. This isn't about science, but Matt makes a big deal about the company getting a relatively small government grant to study the feasibility of it's hydrogen storage idea, but a study isn't proof by itself. It's just a study. Wouldn't you want to know how that study turns out before you start declaring victory in the energy wars? Here's a link to a video that gives you an honest explanation of the potential and very real difficulties of using hydrogen to replace fossil fuels. It's somewhat depressing, but there's no BS in it, unlike some videos I can think of. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNGcopeLlrnVm3k.html&ab_channel=SabineHossenfelder

@dutubarn Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the re-redo, nothing here is correct.

@FallenStarFeatures Жыл бұрын

Correction: Nothing here to correct.

@1LY4x8s96r Жыл бұрын

@@FallenStarFeatures Right? So tell me how he firstly said that 300ºC was needed to release H from the metal and out of no explanation, that he just said it was only 95ºC, and after that he even says only 60ºC, and no explanation on how that was possible. I'm not even going to mention about the efficiency and "low cost" subject. He just spoke for minutes without really explaining anything. Throwing some shallow information and no explanation.

@FallenStarFeatures Жыл бұрын

@@1LY4x8s96r - Agreed, there's literally NOTHING HERE. Hence, nothing here that can be corrected.

@MrTomyCJ Жыл бұрын

@@1LY4x8s96r He was talking about different techniques. When he talks about the 60ºC , he instantly mentions that it's an improvement over the 300ºC figure mentioned earlier. What's with these shallow critiques?

@synth1002 2 ай бұрын

how much you are paid by ev idiots?

@gregbailey45 Жыл бұрын

Another popular hydrogen storage method is conversion to ammonia. The technology to do this, and reverse it, makes energy transport via ammonia quite viable, as well as purely for energy storage.

@2012listo Жыл бұрын

Here here! This, and liquefied air, should be our sustainable future.

@chrisheath2637 Жыл бұрын

A possible downside with ammonia, is its toxicity. Leakages could be problematic...

@daleatkin8927 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisheath2637 true, but so is leakage of gasoline, or for that matter heavy metals, we are just more comfortable with “familiar” dangers…

@unclejim1528 Жыл бұрын

@@daleatkin8927 Not the best comparison, gasoline will stay in a bucket. Ammonia is more like propane (uses same storage tanks) it wants so get out (up to 140 psi? in the sun, though ammonia hydrogen combo might change this). And the way I see it ammonia is more dangerous because large leak or confined leak WILL have arial effect, while propane MIGHT (depends if it finds ignition source). Both can kill, painfully. Ammonia is dangerous, and everyone that can stay away from it does.

@MitchFlint Жыл бұрын

Noooo! Bad idea.

@yordanofp Жыл бұрын

Appreciate how Matt reviews the yt comments and takes feedback from the community to create a whole new video/explanation for us to fully understand. Thank you

@adlockhungry304 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that’s empirical content creation at its finest.

@SailorRalph Жыл бұрын

One of the reasons I absolutely love his channel.

@ryansullivan3085 Жыл бұрын

And yet he hasn't heard of 16:9 for god's sake.

@CantPickTheNameIwant Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmelemede5610 agree

@b_dawg_17 Жыл бұрын

It's videos like these that earn my trust back. I saw a response video that tore the original to shreds. But I think everything was cleared up and explained by this video in more than sufficient detail. Big kudos to Matt on recognizing his mistakes and turning them into a learning opportunity. Keep up the good work! Your sincerity is appreciated, even if it takes you longer to make your videos.

@Kangenpower7 Жыл бұрын

At 8-9 minutes into this video, you show for 3 seconds a 9 MW hour hydrogen storage tank that will be connected to a 1 MW hydrogen power system, that can allow emission free power to the grid during peak power needs! That is fantastic, and worthy of it's own video.

@blg53 Жыл бұрын

Matt, there is something fundamentally suspicious about the whole process. It talks about "pushing" Hydrogen atoms into metal's chrystalline structure creating hydrides. That implied absorbsion, like water gets absobed into a sponge. But a sponge filled with water remains a sponge with water filling up the gaps. Hydrides however, are a totally different beast. Hydrides are not metal anymore with chrystalline gaps filled with Hydrogen, they are chemical compounds of metal and Hydrogen, a result of a chemical reaction. Saying that that Hydrogen is pushed into metal structure making hydrides is the same as saying Chlorine is pushed into chystalline structure of Sodium creating table salt! Salt is not Sodium anymore, just like hydrides are not metals anymore. So, to release Hydrogen from hydrides you need to overcome not crystal bonds, but chemical ones. You are aware of the amount of energy needed to release Chlorine from salt, don't you? Unless a chemical compound is unstable (eg explosive or combustible) the bonds are strong so not sure where such low energy requirement calculations come for. Could you please clarify if you can.

@olegglushko8124 Жыл бұрын

Are you unironically expecting him to answer? haha

@blg53 Жыл бұрын

@@olegglushko8124 I know, just kidding. The whole project looks like a scam begging for funding from the gullibles..

@Kujo174 Жыл бұрын

He clearly isn't aware of anything you said. They don't have any scientific understanding of the matter, which should be fairly obvious from their videos. They just repeat snake oil claims from those companies.

@dantealexander9863 Жыл бұрын

@@Kujo174 what do you mean?

@lafamillecarrington Жыл бұрын

The difference is the reversibility of the process - metal hydrides are relatively easily converted back to metal and hydrogen. Salt - not so much! Overall, the process is between water in a sponge and sodium and chlorine reacting. Crystalline.

@jessegriffin9 Жыл бұрын

I am learning English and your videos help me. Unlike boring lessons and lectures, I can watch your videos for long hours.

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@chrisbarrett2512 Жыл бұрын

As an investor of multiple decades, I have been interested in Hydrogen for almost 50 years. I always appears to be just around the corner, but the corner never is turned. Holy grail of renewable energy, or fool's gold? My head says that at some point a true breakthrough will occur, and be it hydrogen, or some form of fusion, or something out of left field. Just hopefully some energy platform that has little or no impact on the earth, and its animals, air quality, and other impacts. The earth takes care of us, but we do not take care of this earth, that must change. An excellent follow up and no reason to apologize. The field is changing rapidly, so picking the new ideas out of all of them out there is not easy, especially in a changing environment.

@thegreataynrand7210 Жыл бұрын

If you are that old you should have realized how much environmental progress and improvements have been made over the years.

@christopherbarrett9749 Жыл бұрын

@@thegreataynrand7210 I do! However, as always, we could be better guardians of the earth. Native American had a different view, the view was the earth could not be owned, we are supposed to persevere the earth for the next generation... Conceptions of the way we interact with the earth, could be improved, but hard to change...

@thegreataynrand7210 Жыл бұрын

@@christopherbarrett9749 The truth is the environment is getting better constantly and we find better ways of doing things.

@PseudoFiction Жыл бұрын

@@christopherbarrett9749 - Both you and Matt have the correct attitude about how we as a species need to change how live to make a sustainable planet, but you're first comment about being an investor undercuts that attitude a little. However beneficial new technologies can be to the planet will always be secondary under the capitalist framework to making money. Matt always has a cost analysis about what the video topic is so he's keen to this as well. All it all, it isn't the science that is holding us back. Also don't take that other guy serious, they put Ayn Rand in their screen name, you can you tell they are full of shit.

@KafshakTashtak Жыл бұрын

What parameter (cost, techincal issues, etc.) do you think will cause that breakthrough? I mean what do you think we should focus on while developing these systems? I have done PhD research on this topic, and am interested in developing such systems. but never had the chance to get funding for a startup.

@mitchhilger5394 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the deeper dive in this topic. I believe that many, not understanding fully the tech thought this would be a good answer for powering a car/light truck. You didn't specifically point this out, but did explain with the numbers. This system might be a good fit for a fixed or large vehicle. But one issue not mentioned in its use for powering vehicles is one of transportation to fuel centers, where the transportation and storage costs would add to the overall lessening of efficiency.

@oscarroque01 Жыл бұрын

I don't get why some people hate on things just because they don't fit into their views... Many things have diverse applications that we (as individuals) haven't the slightest idea they exist, simply because we aren't exposed to them and/or because we haven't given it a deeper analysis. One tech might not work for one situation but, it could work for another. We shouldn't have tunnel vision towards finding that magic-bean-single-solution-for-everthing. Thanks for your videos.

@SuperFlamethrower Жыл бұрын

8:48 The part I was missing is where an electrolyzer is used to "recharge" the hydride It goes from H2 to water with the fuel cell and back to H2 again using the electrolyzer.

@danielmadar9938 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I had no problem with your former video, but I admire your humility in this one. 🙃 Also, don't mind about the trolls- your work is impressive. I'm a researcher and never thought I'd see references in a KZfaq video - you proved me wrong with your comprehensive video script and citations! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Daniel.

@edgarescandar3944 15 күн бұрын

Always excellent videos for the rest of us, none PHDs, but curious to want to know just enough. I think this could beat the battery race, at least for heavy machinery or ships to start. Appreciate your work.

@denvera1g1 Жыл бұрын

This video is put together so much better than the last video. I know that much of what is needed for publication on youtube is playing to the lowest common denominator, and thats really hard in short form media if you have to explain things and cite sources.

@jamesmaduabuchi6100 Жыл бұрын

There might be an economical turmoil but there is no doubt that this is still the best time to invest.

@wilsonjudson1650 Жыл бұрын

Best time to invest? thats funny though because in the last four months I have lost more than $47,900 in stock market which is the biggest I have loss since I ventured into stock investment.

@jamesmaduabuchi6100 Жыл бұрын

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@dorissteve912 Жыл бұрын

Really? people are cashing in from the stock market and frankly speaking its comforting seeing someone admit to the fact that they actually seek help from professionals. please how can i reach TERESA ?

@jamesmaduabuchi6100 Жыл бұрын

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@dorissteve912 Жыл бұрын

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@amedeeabreo7334 Жыл бұрын

Worth considering: The most dense form of hydrogen storage is by connecting hydrogen atoms to carbon atoms. This is done by a process called photosynthesis.

@MrTomyCJ Жыл бұрын

And to release that energy you just need to burn it! aka fossil fuels.

@andrew13651 Жыл бұрын

@@MrTomyCJ Agree, but I think by now we all know the reason for exploring other areas. For instance why not look into converting coal into hydrogen for the energy and carbon for the soil to regrow new plant matter and eventually create a system to essentially just increase the cyclic rate of fossilization to fit humans insatiable appetite for [things on a silver platter]. Fossil fuels do work, errryday! All it is is reworking the formula to emit a ['less controversial' matrix of stuff]. Say you dont believe in climate change or global warming or whatever ppl call it now. Thats fine, but you have to see the economic opportunity that is afforded from the enormous amount of people who do believe CO2 acts as a thermal blanket and is an 'bad' thing (like we know; earth survived much higher levels of CO2 before, and who's to say humans couldn't too? Mars is on the table but creating our own oxygen on earth isn't?) Its all BS to attempt to make more money for more people. That is the eternal dilemma of economics there are the haves and the have nots, and pretty regularly the have nots are far more numerous - then all of them have an avg of more than 1.1 children so theres more people chasing the same stuff and blah blah blah it all comes down to timing. But getting so caught up in whether CO2 will cause North America to sink, or on the other hand not caring and simply recognizing the burn rate of fossil fuel reserves is faster then they are replenished and that is an obvious issue - both present a problem that requires solving. So my approach is lets solve something and stop wasting time regurgitating the same complaints Ive been hearing since grade 10. Sorry TomyCJ you are not even close to the worst offender. I actually like and support burning fossil fuels to keep the world running as it currently does. Most greenies dont understand why solar and wind will never be enough to sustain 'the world' any better than burning fossil fuels while also retaining our general way of living (aka being able to get this message to people Ive never met via the internet lol)

@andrew13651 Жыл бұрын

Pithy, I like - problem is human population rise vs photosynthetic rate.

@laus9953 Жыл бұрын

@@MrTomyCJ when burning hydrogen, there is ZERO co2 produced

@peterkorek-mv6rs 9 ай бұрын

Right. If You have a standard of life of an Australian Aborigeny or Bhutan Citizen it will be enough. If You are a US or Western European Citizen You need additional energy. If it is a Fossil fuel You usually take it from places like Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran or Russia. The consequences You can see in the Evening News today.

@ryanmuhm7584 Жыл бұрын

Your response to aggressive discourse is why I watch your channel. Bravo.

@andrewwebb9249 Жыл бұрын

There was a proof of concept done on an off-grid house in Austria a couple years ago, capable of storing enough hydrogen from excess solar collection in Summer to cover energy requirements in winter. There are a number of solutions on the market targeting homeowners looking to achieve self-sufficiency (autarkie) in a similar way, but all store the hydrogen as pressurised gas which puts everyone off. When they crack this on a scale that will allow metal hydrides to be used as a battery to store hydrogen in a residential home until winter to keep the heat pump running with less solar power available, then I see a pretty large potential market for their implementation. In cars not so much, but I remain optimistic...

@leander_1_ Жыл бұрын

Since when do we have H2 in exhaust gases? We have H2O, NOT H2 in those streams.

@chipbrown433 Жыл бұрын

Saw this when we got in last night and I have to wonder whether Dave Borlace is gonna send a "friend" to mess with your kneecaps for horning in on his Sunday release turf. I like that you took us on a deep dive when you felt like you needed to improve on a previous release and not seem too dependent on one startup's marketing. Bravo!

@CogsOz Жыл бұрын

Nice follow up Matt, which clarifies a few points, but I do have a couple of lingering concerns. You said, "When the hydrogen leaving those chimneys hits oxygen and combines with it, you get water vapour and those white plumes that you typically see coming out of them." Hydrogen doesn't spontaneously combine with oxygen to form water vapour. It requires the application of intense heat which then starts a self sustaining massively exothermic reaction, ie. it combusts. This is the exact process by which we extract energy from the hydrogen. If the gases in the chimney are hot enough to initiate combustion of the hydrogen (around 650°C I believe) when it hits air, then cooling it to the point it doesn't damage the hydrogen recovery apparatus is going to present its own set of challenges, and may negate the benefit of the hydrogen being available there in the first place. Secondly, I tried unsuccessfully to find more information about the energy requirement of dispensing liquid hydrogen. Where did you find the figure of 10MWh per ton (the link in your citations is dead)? I may be over simplifying, but simply allowing liquid hydrogen to absorb ambient heat at ambient pressure will convert it back to a usable gas with no requirement for an external energy source. Further the cooling effect could be used to advantage for other industrial processes. What am I missing here?

@terrabuilder Ай бұрын

As far as a solid hydride is concerned, I recommend contacting Bob Lazar at United Nuclear, who has a Corvette Stingray with 4 tanks in the rear, filled with a specific hydride that is a leftover from our former nuclear arsenal. After a while, he was cut off from that supply, but he created his own nuclear laboratory to produce that same hydride, which takes a nuclear reaction to create that hydride. I know this man personally because he was a neighbor of mine when I was living in the mountains of New Mexico, from 1999-2004. Bob produced his own hydrogen via a solar panel, using electrolysis. It took about 3 days to produce enough hydrogen to fill those tanks of hydride which gave him a driving distance of 450 miles on one charge.

@idea-shack Жыл бұрын

I've seen metal hydrides for hydrogen storage to feed fuel cells in action first hand a decade ago. The cylinders they were stored in used ambient heat to charge and discharge over hours, they merely got hot when charged and cold when discharged. Was impressed. Sure, if you operate at high rates, you need active cooling or heating to achieve the high rates or it becomes self limiting, but it depends entirely on your power needs, you might not need them is you are content to work at lower rates.

@maxthelionxmax9220 Жыл бұрын

Getting very close to that million mate !! Keep going

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I still find that crazy.

@maxthelionxmax9220 Жыл бұрын

You deserve it mate . I watch all your videos and my niece is now also watching . It’s good to get kids listening to the right stuff and not rubbish TikTok videos I said It last year but honestly Fbr robotics is going global soon. The robots will be building houses down the road very very soon!

@JasonColemanCalifornia Жыл бұрын

Making corrections is one of the main reasons I watch. We appreciate it.

@kimoandrews5802 10 күн бұрын

He should just delete his account.

@niefali 2 ай бұрын

If anything its really good to see so many different approaches to the energy problems.

@davejack8973 Жыл бұрын

Keep CRUSHING Matt and the TEAM at Undecided ! MUCH LOVE FROM NORTH OF THE WALL!

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Dave! Me and the rest of team undecided appreciate it.

@kenirwin276 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. But, how does this compare with ammonia for hydrogen storage and transportation?

@ForbiddTV Жыл бұрын

That's one thing this channel excels at; The next great savior technology that never materializes. This channel is more about click-bait than anything else.

@wannabewallaby1592 Жыл бұрын

Good work to follow up on past, discussed topics. Let's keep the discussion going!

@hermannabt8361 Жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to Thunderf00t's video on this.

@dnomyarnostaw Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed. Matt should have watched that in the first place.

@ZE0XE0 Жыл бұрын

it just came out a few days ago.

@dnomyarnostaw Жыл бұрын

@@satunnainenkatselija4478 I understand your concerns, but the storage medium is already in operation. Lookup "Ammonia to Hydrogen Metal Membrane Separation Technology" , they are already building the plant to make green Ammonia for transport of Hydrogen.

@dnomyarnostaw Жыл бұрын

@@ZE0XE0 I notice he just did another one on one of Matts bloopers. "Matt Ferrell says stupid things about Magnesium" I unsubscribed from Matt, he is just getting too unreliable and ill informed.

@ZE0XE0 Жыл бұрын

@@dnomyarnostaw he mentions the bloopers early on, but goes into more scientific detail later in his video.

@mikkoliukko Жыл бұрын

A great mark of a man is his desire to learn and honesty to admit when he is wrong. Thank you for a great video

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@xtronkillmaster2517 Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF Can you do a video on flow batteries?

@tomkelly8827 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the follow up Matt. Yes as someone who lives off grid with solar and batteries in Canada, Hydrogen storage has always intrigued me. How to store all that sun from those long summer days for winter? Metal hydrides sound interesting for vehicles but I would guess that they are cost prohibitive for stationary applications, although great if you need to save space. A tank full of metal sounds like it would be quite expensive to expand, much more than an empty compressed air tank. From my research I am thinking that ammonia or methanol have more potential with large gas bladders under the lake or ocean getting a nod of approval as well

@Sailorman6996 Жыл бұрын

A temporary stationary storage was used for the gas grid in a nearby town to provide gas for the stoves and such in private homes. The storage was very simple - using half a tank with an open bottom floating in a fluid inside another larger tank with open top. The gas inside the tank kept the top half afloat and the weight of the top half kept the gas under a steady pressure. Adding gas will lift the top, consuming gas will lower it. As the pressure is very low the size of tanks need to be very very big. But much less energy is used to fill the tank. About same idea can be used with a sealed bag with a small weight on top, almost like a bagpipe.

@spyrule Жыл бұрын

THIS, is why I follow you. You are willing to re-do subjects, when things havn't been covered to your consistent high standards. Love it, and kudo's to you.

@OrneryA Жыл бұрын

8 hank6

@clown134 Жыл бұрын

it's also important to add an extra layer of criticism to this company who is using the guys of proprietary research to shield their product from scrutiny, and an extra layer of criticism to literally any company that stands to profit from investors, like Tesla for example who releases CGI as proof of their products in order to get people to invest

@dann5480 Жыл бұрын

THIS is why you are an ideout.

@jeanvictory1897 Жыл бұрын

Yes agree. Kudos to you for taking the time to add to your information and making it clearer!

@GuusJanssen Жыл бұрын

It still completely bogus, but whatever, he corrected around like 20% of his mistakes in the video.

@yeh.80 Жыл бұрын

Son, wheeres my glasses, I can't see the physics from here!!

@thirsty_dog1364 Жыл бұрын

Dumbing it down to reach more people works. Downside you come off as not informed to some people. Clearly it's a balancing act on any program trying to get new information and updates out. Great review Sir!

@rscott2247 Жыл бұрын

I know very little about solid hydrogen except to hear that other hydrogen producing methods are costly. I know in the past 6 months various uploaders have claimed this is the new battery break through for the EV auto industry be it graphene or sodium lithium or solid state a combination of both. Thanks for the updated clarifications in this video, Matt. Good, useful knowledge is so important in my books !

@ernestestrada2461 Жыл бұрын

A family member works for a major power company in California which uses solar power to pump water up hill to a reservoir to generate power at night. He says the system loses 20% (80% efficient).

@trolololgast Жыл бұрын

Hey student electrical power engineer here. Everything is about efficiency because this is what drives ROI. My first guess is this project can only exist because its has a big funding. Once this stops, 80 % efficiency is not going to cut is... I wanna be hopeful but also realistic. Would love to be wrong and learn more about this

@seandees3028 Жыл бұрын

I learn a lot from you, not just the content of your videos but how to interact with a largely anonymous populous. Your grace and measured interactions are inspiring.

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Sean.

@thegreataynrand7210 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps get out more ?

@joythought Жыл бұрын

@@thegreataynrand7210 unhelpful

@thegreataynrand7210 Жыл бұрын

@@joythought Why not? Too many people have no lives

@HiHowdyDoody Жыл бұрын

@@joythought Don't feed the troll

@newguy6935 Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for hydrogen storage like this for 20 years.

@rolyantrauts2304 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt great info once more, personally the balance with 'dumb down' & 'science' for me is spot on the mark.

@daves1646 Жыл бұрын

Matt, hitting it out of the park with this redress. Will H2 technology be useful? YES. Just like the myriad of different chemical storage types. You highlighted temporal efficiency as well as process efficiency. To rapidly and drastically increase the amount of energy storage we have for renewables, and make them truly useful, we’ll need EVERY solution we can cost effectively implement. And as ongoing research improves technologies, we’ll replace the less effective and efficient ones with better tools. Thank you for bringing the broad range of technology to be seen here in your channel!!!!

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle Жыл бұрын

There is literally no cost effective implementation of this. This 30 year old technology has never gained mainstream success for a reason. Because its inefficient and a scam in any application like this.

@rutessian Жыл бұрын

Wow .. 14 days underwater. Amazing! Nuclear subs can't even begin to compare to that, with their 3-4 months.

@jackholman5008 Жыл бұрын

6 months in war

@davidbowerman6433 Жыл бұрын

But a battery (as was the point) can’t compete. This is also one of the quietest sub ever built. Battery boats are by far deadlier. And why DARPA is helping the navy research it.

@rutessian Жыл бұрын

@@planexshifter Nope, but if they want to use it as a battery, I doubt they'll put it in contact with water, they might just keep it inside the submarine where, usually, there isn't any water.

@michaeltempsch5282 Жыл бұрын

And if you don't want to go nuclear, but still want weeks of submerged ops, there's the Air Independent (liquid oxygen and diesel) Stirling motor subs from for instance Sweden. Silent enough to first get in and "kill" a US aircraft carrier and then evade the escorts...

@troygrover6441 9 ай бұрын

This is very interesting concept for storing vast amounts of entergy underground. Especially in a Thermal Solar Field that is already operating at high temperatures. Great Video.

@Tdubwashere Жыл бұрын

Hey Matt, take a look at Ambri. They have an all liquid battery for large scale operations. Solves a lot of the safety aspects, or so they claim. Would love your take on it.

@pharag4886 Жыл бұрын

This channel gives me hope for the future, makes feel... UNDECIDED about where we're going.

@manu.yt25 Жыл бұрын

Forward leaning tech is cool but beware of scams, too many shady startups are making crazy promises that often don't even respect physics laws... and just scam investors. KZfaqrs should always keep a very critical and skeptical mind when speaking about such things or otherwise they are just part of the scam.

@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Жыл бұрын

This is one of the last major puzzles pieces in the sustainable transition. Long term storage is the last big hurdle and this is very promissing. For the rest the solutions are already available. Hydrogen for cars is just not going to happen. And short term storage is covered by batteries as well. Going full renewables in 20 years is perfectly doable. Good stuff.

@TerjeMathisen 2 ай бұрын

As most of you probably know, Norway has not just a lot of hydro power, but also a pretty large pumped storage capacity. However, as long as our regular dams are not full or running over, it is much more efficient to simply reduce the production there, instead of first generating electricity in one location, transporting it the pumped storage facility and then use it to pump water uphill. Pumped storage could become viable if/when Norway accepts the EU's designated role for us: We should be the flexible provider that provides power when all of Germany suffers from "Dunkelstille", i.e. darkness and no wind. To do so we would need even more DC underwater transmission cables, which would make our local electricity prices even higher. Unlike most of the EU we use electricity even for heating in winter, so we cannot simply use less power when it is costly.

@danchadwick1495 Жыл бұрын

Hi Matt, graphitic Carbon-Nitride works much the same way holding Hydrogen up to 10% of the gCN total mass. Made of urea and sugar. Releases hydrogen at 300°C. The difference here is solar exposure is all that is needed to separate hydrogen from water.

@luislongoria6621 Жыл бұрын

Careful, there might be a shortage of "pink salt" for Big Macs!

@calvincheney7405 Жыл бұрын

I recall several news releases over the last few years from Perdue & other Universities on fuel cell tech. The first book I read on this subject was called Powering the Future. What became of the Canadian fuel cell efforts in metropolitan buses? Have there been suppression techniques employed such as your description of classification issues slowing the patent process in other realms of energy production & storage? Lastly, why didn't the 500 km range compressed air car the Germans developed go anywhere?

@Bryan46162 Жыл бұрын

The fuel cell buses in Vancouver were quietly discontinued because they don't (and never did) make economic sense. Like most Hydrogen announcements, they were more about green-washing and scoring PR points than actually advancing real solutions. As for the compressed air cars, the technology works but the vehicles need to be ultra-lightweight and efficient since compressed air is not very energy dense. 500km is extremely optimistic as most models trying to get into development today are less than 150km.

@naasking Жыл бұрын

Compressed air also loses efficiency by thermal losses, and releasing that energy causes stresses in valves because they get rapidly cooled. Thermal recycling at the grid storage level can improve the efficiency of compressed air.

@ghoulbuster1 Жыл бұрын

There's no conspiracy here, it just didn't work as intended.

@markkoons7488 Жыл бұрын

Far more than I ever knew plus I appreciate your style. Thank you.

@TheyCalledMeT Жыл бұрын

11:03 a very very different story than [i paraphrase] "so market disrupting it got banned by the government" ... no it was just the typically slow bureaucratic process of taking years to consider consequences and granting or refusing a patent .. btw. very good message here, humble and going trough it in detail, huge thumbs up

@Mmmmilo Жыл бұрын

So: you didn’t do any research for your last video, you were called out, and your response video is just a bunch of deflection and pedantry without admitting that you were just categorically wrong. OK! How can anyone trust you if THIS is your methodology?

@eoinf2773 Жыл бұрын

Hes just reading a script! Someone else wrote it.

@eoinf2773 Жыл бұрын

@@stauffap just lazy, clickbait!

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

We did do research and spoke to people who work in battery and hydrogen research.

@Mmmmilo Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF you asked this company what third-parties had validated their research, and you literally just accepted their lie without checking ANYTHING. You believed the equivalent of “my girlfriend is super hot, but you don’t know her because she goes to another school.” Then, you didn’t even do the most basic research into hydrogen capture, which would’ve shown that what they’re proposing is not only impossible currently, but absolutely ludicrous physically. Etc. Etc. Etc. And then you create a clarification video in which you ignore almost all the valid criticism and simply try to reframe your mistakes. You’re Streisanding the hell out of this, and I can’t fathom why. Just say “we didn’t research this and created a stupid clickbait video, sorry” and move on. Sheesh.

@martinsander4118 Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF The argument about hydrogen capture from flue gases alone is enough to fatally discredit the whole video. Hydrogen is a very flammable compound - it will combust in coal plants or incineration plants due to high heat and presence of oxygen. The resulting flue gas from these plants is composed of mostly nitrogen, water and some CO2. All of this would have been easily discovered through a Google search and is usually teached in high school or below - we learned that air is mostly nitrogen, and if nitrogen (mostly) is inert, most of the flue gas will logically also be nitrogen.

@FoamyDave Жыл бұрын

Hydrogen binds too well. This means significant energy is required to "move" it from a free form to a storage from and back again. Thus the lower efficiency numbers quoted in the video when compared to batteries. It seems to me that it makes most sense when created with excess renewable energy and for "long" term storage (greater than 4 hours). Also, since significant heat appears to be part of the process, it is better suited to large industrial installations where the heat can be cost effectively stored/utilized rather than lost. So probably not passenger vehicles but more likely grid or industrial processes with large mobile applications falling into a special need category.

@jooptablet1727 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Store excess solar energy in summer and release it when the sun doesn't shine in winter. Even though it's inefficient, it does work. Hydrogen for passenger vehicles is idiocy, though. Batteries are a far superior solution. I think people are starting to understand that now.

@infocat13 Жыл бұрын

co-locate this with molten salt storage for cogeneration

@soulsurvivor8293 Жыл бұрын

@@jooptablet1727 With the energy requirements to liberate Hydrogen stored in solids yes, Hydrogen stored in Ammonia not so much. Ammonia stored and transported in slightly modified existing petroleum infrastructure and converted to Hydrogen at the pump is far more viable. There are efficiency losses in production however they can be easily offset by excess power production from outside the production facilities dedicated power production. The idea is to utilise Hydrogen for vehicles that require longer ranges and as a stored emission free fuel, not for metropolitan markets. Failing to realise that we need to use different solutions for different applications and taking the drawbacks that come with the benefit for the desired application would be foolish.

@gringo1723 Жыл бұрын

Consider the efficiencies from the perspective of a PROCESS that shall definitely change (as Matt points out) over TIME!

@da4127 Жыл бұрын

@@soulsurvivor8293 exactly, this sounds really good for electric 18 wheelers, definitely not good for small vehicles, but maybe even buses can benefit from it

@stephensomersify Жыл бұрын

Opinions on Solid Hydrogen remain opinions until tempered by FACTS - Your videos help this process - albeit in 12 Mins. All good food for thought, - - - old git, UK

@corujariousa Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the effort. This second video is definitely better than the first. I appreciate your videos.

@Babarudra Жыл бұрын

Just want to say that I appreciate your videos. As with everything online, trying to get all your information from one spot doesn't work. Starting conversations, adding content and adding context to topics that have so much societal-anathematic nuance is needed, and you certainly contribute more than your fair share. Solutions to the worlds problems aren't simple, nor are they one size fits all, nor are they all or nothing. Thank you for all your efforts, and for continuing to do what you can to help the conversations.

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle Жыл бұрын

Marc, What scent of Snake Oil did you order from matt? Jokes aside, Please consider doing some research. This guy is not on your side, Heres proof kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbd0i9SAy6maYYk.html

@rutherford2580 Жыл бұрын

Weird!!! I am truly concerned.

@banto1 Жыл бұрын

Using metal to store hydrogen was a big thing back in the late '70s. There was a lot of work done to get city buses to run on hydrogen combustion, where the hydrogen was stored in metal lattices, needing only to be heated up to release the hydrogen when needed. I think there were even a few prototype buses running in Germany based on the technology. The big selling point was safety as the hydrogen wasn't going to go all Hindenburg when the bus crashed. This approach died away mostly because it became apparent that hydrogen combustion engines had short lifetimes. Today there is a renewed interest in hydrogen production, where waste heat from nuclear reactors can be used to create hydrogen in a variety of chemical processes. The hydrogen could then stored in pressure tanks and burned directly to turn turbines to create electricity when intermittent renewable sources can't meet the load requirement.

@mp6756 Жыл бұрын

Lol No matter how big or small the conversation there will always be more than one opinion. I thought was the reason for conversation. After your first video on solid hydrogen storage I wasn't expecting a solid hydrogen storage fuel cell system powering my house before years end. Since 2012 my home is powered by two PV solar panels arrays just under 10k on average 85% on my family's power is from sunshine. My father installed solar hot water on his house in 1977 I grew up in home where I could shower for an hour and dad never complained. The solar panels were built by Revere Copper and Brass and in the early 90s Dad needed a roof I took his three copper panels and they are still on my roof making hot water today. I am still running the very same closed loop circulator pump today and the parts are still available. We should all be looking forward to better our future but not discount what has been available for the past 45 years. If I had long a term storage solution I wouldn't buy any electricity. Keep the videos coming the future is gonna be great now that people are paying attention.

@homiethefish Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite things about your channel are videos like this. Deeper dives, updates on topics as new information is available, and corrections are what make you stand above the norm. I can't wait to see the first house videos, when is the first one planned?

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Still TBD when the home series will kick off, but most likely late summer early fall. August/September timeframe for the first videos hopefully.

@Nightowl5454 Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF I can see why you put up that thing about not allowing spam in the comments, I've been seeing that on several people's channels. It's really Annoying to get spam.😑

@sssbob Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF The world is too far down the electric vehicle path for hydrogen to compete.

@glenfry5871 Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF what info did you use to verify the claim that hydrogen can be collected from waste management exhaust. Ive seen data that shows that there is 0 molecular hydrogen in the exhaust.

@dragan4453 Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF You should address this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbd0i9SAy6maYYk.html

@petrkubena Жыл бұрын

8:33 50kWh/100kg is significantly better than what is in model 3. Model 3 battery weights roughly 500kg and has only 80kWh. Even when talking about cell level energy density, you will not get much beyond 25kWh/100kg (250Wh/kg is traditional metric) in mass produced lithium batteries.

@galfisk Жыл бұрын

That's per kg of metal hydride though. The weight of the entire system will be much higher.

@bertrandbolin7097 Жыл бұрын

I'm also interested in the statement of 50kWh/100kg. Is that just a claim by the company GKN or is it something that has been published and peer-reviewed?

@justluke8730 Жыл бұрын

The big problem for me is, that even if it stores 50 kwh/100kg, if you convert it back to electricity in a fuel cell with 60% (current top values) efficency, 30kwh/100kg aren't that impressive anymore.

@shorty1815 Жыл бұрын

Does this already take the needed heating into account? Also, the reversibility is usually quite bad, meaning that a lot of hydrogen is still left in the metal structure, reducing the efficiency.

@grahambeech4636 Жыл бұрын

I love Undecided because you look at alternatives. So many these days see electric cars as the only solution, without looking at the environmental costs of building these cars and the infrastructure. We should be looking at all alternatives objectively.

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbd0i9SAy6maYYk.html dude hes literally selling snake oil, Do some research on this, this is a complete farce

@josetoaraujoarraga Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the information and the effort made to make this video ❤

@Spencer-cz8lj Жыл бұрын

One issues with a video like this, and a channel like this in general, is the reliance on manufacturer/corporate provided info - I remember one other company doing storage like this that thankfully I never purchased anything from, because their specified performance was so grossly incorrect it was definitely false advertising. There's a lot of random youtube tech channels doing reviews on "future tech" that never comes about, and a good percentage of the time it's not because they just need more time it's because the origin of the information was grossly untrustworthy and the goals set by the management are not realistic, generally to the major frustration of their engineering team. I'd love it if these companies performed as well as they said they could, but it's definitely a "believe it when it happens" situation.

@amjrpain919 Жыл бұрын

Considering the amount of hydrogen available versus all other energy compounds, this is the direction we will inevitably follow. And I anxiously look forward to the day we can cheaply and responsibly utilize this technology!

@amjrpain919 Жыл бұрын

@Phil Ware only currently...

@GeorgeMonet Жыл бұрын

Hydrogen is not available. You have to spend a large amount of energy to break the bonds of the chemicals hydrogen is found in.

@amjrpain919 Жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeMonet people are making hydrogen generators at home, using electricity from a wall socket...

@Artimidorus Жыл бұрын

@@amjrpain919 That's not a hydrogen generator though, is it? It's using electricity and will always produce less than you put in. So they are making hydrogen, but it's losing money (hence, costly to do). They also aren't creating enough hydrogen to really do much with in a home setting. It's basically just a science experiment.

@UrbanMediaReview Жыл бұрын

We just need all the top 10 scientists of each great nation and several translators under one roof for about a 10 days.

@AgenteSmart Жыл бұрын

Well Matt, the criticism was not on whether it is possible to store hydrogen in a metal hydride. The critics were aimed at Plasma Kinetics' claim to store hydrogen in some sort of light-actived material which their own video can't choose between being shaped as a disc plate or a rolling tape. In order to be light-activated, it must be thin. VERY thin. So as long as it can't stand its own weight, it will need a mechanically appropiate foundation, which will be heavier than the hydride layer and its stored hydrogen. And here's were Plasma Kinetic's claim falls apart. Along with their stress on "being so good the US military forbid it", which means they pitched it too well, not that they actually made it beyond faking it...

@dnomyarnostaw Жыл бұрын

Exactly. It was a real "spin" exercise, avoiding his original nonsensical coverage.

@markolson4660 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the repeat/re-evaluated video. I found the first half (about the science) to be very well done. And doubly kudos for looking back and reviewing your own performance -- that's the mark of someone who is truly trying to do a first-rate job! (I'd welcome more videos where you go back after a time and examine progress in technologies you have reported on previously.) Unfortunately, listening to your presentation about Plasma Kinetics in the second half, all I hear is red flags (a mixed metaphor!). They are saying "We've got great stuff, but we can't tell you anything because it's all proprietary! Trust us." While this occasionally turns out to be true, 98% of the time it turns out that the company was actually desperately searching for funding to build something they *believed in*, but didn't actually have working...and which never works. (And too often it's an actual fraud.) I think you'd do a lot better avoiding such a heavy focus on things you can't verify for yourself. In this case, it appears you are still too trusting of the Great and Powerful Oz.

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the feedback. I’m in a trust but verify mode of thinking with Plasma Kinetics. They’re working on pilot studies, so we’ll know for sure if this was smoke and mirrors. I’m definitely keeping tabs on this.

@chrisheath2637 Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF (Sometimes , people working on an innovative product, find it hard to see the wood for the trees, and it can seem (to them) that there is a rosy outlook for future success, whereas they are actually heading for a dead-end. Equally, of course, people may be overly pessimistic, with setback after setback, and yet be on the verge of a massive breakthrough !. It is, naturally, massively difficult to know the future...)

@RandyTWester Жыл бұрын

@@chrisheath2637 Some things about the future are fairly predictable, for example solar panels are now relatively cheap and can be manufactured at a large scale, northern economies need energy in the winter but can produce more, in summer, and small electrolyzer + big storage fits that seasonal storage use case better than batteries. It doesn't mean they won't also use batteries, because solar doesn't work in the dark and never will, but they will never use batteries that charge in June and discharge in December. Except flow batteries, maybe.

@kgrach Жыл бұрын

The main problem with the last video was Plasma Kinetics. They (Plasma Kinetics) people really scream scam. Just because somebody looked at your stuff doesn't mean they like or agree with what you did. The USPTO is really crap and will let you patent anything, so later you can sue the people who really figured out how to do it.

@jonathanw11 Жыл бұрын

The main problem with the last video (and this one) is that it makes it clear Matt doesn't understand anything that he is trying to communicate. Channels like this benefit no one and really go to show why proper science communication is so difficult.

@ohanachemdry808 Жыл бұрын

Wow....Hydrogen storage is moving along at a faster pace and addressing the safety of storage and release.....this sounds very promising for heavy industrial users such as ships, trains and possibly for construction and farming equipment....

@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын

I wonder what kinda ideas people are going to think up for us to do with all these giant holes we dug looking for things like lithium.

@tombouie Жыл бұрын

Thks & this reminds me of how bottled acetylene works: Acetoning of acetylene when storing it in a cylinder is vital to the safe and effective storage and functioning of acetylene. It is also vital for the safe transportation of acetylene cylinders. Here are a few reasons why acetylene should be stored in liquid acetone: 1 It helps stabilize the acetylene keeping it from reacting with oxygen. 2 Since pure acetylene cannot be pressurized without causing an explosion, it is mixed in acetone to reduce the pressure. 3 Acetone has the capabilities to dissolve large amounts of acetylene. For example, one liter of acetone can dissolve 250 liters of acetylene. This is possible at 10 atmospheres of pressure. Hence, it proves to be a relatively economical method.

@willardSpirit Жыл бұрын

It'll be cool one day to have hydrogen cars where we have to shovel hydrogen pellets in a stove to power the car. The future!

@Ozmundas Жыл бұрын

This gave me a vision of the old coal powered trains with the person shoveling in the coal :)

@niclaskarlin Жыл бұрын

@@Ozmundas Or wood in cars like during wwii

@chucksumpter7340 Жыл бұрын

Matt, you do a great job of making the complicated simple. I always enjoy your videos and learn something in the process. Keep up the great work my friend… 😀

@renereichert7410 Жыл бұрын

Might not be so simple: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbd0i9SAy6maYYk.html

@ronvmt Жыл бұрын

Loved the content, this is indeed the future. We got to identify all the puzzle pieces and then put them In order.

@he8535 Жыл бұрын

This was a great video If you ever are running low on ideas for videos I am more than willing to watch old topics revised and improved like this one

@terrafirma9328 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2001 Honda Insight that uses a Nickel Hydride batterry to get 60 mpg, so the tech has nowhere but up to go. If a hybrid can take advantage of the sweet spot between 2 technologies, imagine if a MULTI-hybrid tech combined the sweet spots of multiple technologies. 🤯

@toby1248 Жыл бұрын

They used NiMH cells because they couldn't source enough lithium cells. That is the only reason. Lithium cells are superior in every way that matters. Even at that, both NiMH and lithium cells are highly efficient at converting electricity to chemical energy and back without losses, far more so than any fuel cell could be. There is no better option for a hybrid vehicle for mpg than what you've already got

@drhubs7049 Жыл бұрын

Great work man. I can imagine this work isn't easy. Keep it up! You are a valuable resource to lots of people

@AquaCoalaNest Жыл бұрын

Reading a white paper, and accepting all that is promised = hard work in the USA (probably).

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle Жыл бұрын

What scent of Snake Oil did you buy?

@drhubs7049 Жыл бұрын

@@youtube.really.stole.my.handle I like his content. Gets you thinking and helps you keep up with tech

@drhubs7049 Жыл бұрын

@@AquaCoalaNest perhaps. I personally like staying up to date on technology and see the possibilities. You don't change the world staying in a box

@peterjort1503 Жыл бұрын

When you talk about collecting H2 from flue gas from the incineration of plastics, I thought about pyrolysis which is high temperature way of splitting hydrocarbon, a clean split, like CH4 ⇌ C + 2H2, splitting methane. I have read that it can split rubber plastic... but I never hear about advancements in the use or realization of this method on an industrial scale, any news?

@vsvnrg3263 Жыл бұрын

peter jort, it might be a little off-subject, but an australian group invented a way to recycle tyres into their components. by modifying the process they can alter the ratios of the extracts. it won the inventor of the year award on the abc(aust) new inventors tv show about 20 years ago. i do not remember hydrogen as being one of the extracted substances. the pyrolysis was achieved using microwaves using electricity generated using some of the extracted materials. i dont believe the australian government or any private industry showed any interest.

@stevenfrazer46 Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, I asked Matt if he could review the work of a company doing this near me in the U.K. They are in the process of constructing the commercial scale prototype at a mass scale plastics processing facility at Ellesmere Port. The company is called Powerhouse Energy. It looks very promising, and more importantly it looks fairly close to realisation. Hopefully Matt F will get around to covering it one day

@justangvano Жыл бұрын

Excellent video as usual. Looking forward to the next one.

@josephnelson3146 Жыл бұрын

I've used this technology on a small scale to provide hydrogen to power flame photometry units for specialized gas detection. It allows for a much more compact design. Refilling the tanks was simple and the storage containers were stable and had a long shelf life. I think that is one of the advantages. The systems work very much like ordinary compressed gas systems from the user's point of view. This should allow for easy integration into a number of technologies. In trying to decide what is best I think we sometimes forget the strength of a diverse energy system. Better to optimize each use case rather than have one hegemonic system to rule them all.

@tonyvieson9194 Жыл бұрын

The one size fits all mentality is probably one of the largest issues we combat every day. It's one of the largest problems with the majority of green energy. It's not that the solutions are 100% bad. It's that there not practical in many parts of the world. Then to add insult to injury. When implemented in the environments they are suited for, they do it in an improper and unpractical manner that doesn't allows for the best efficiency of the solution being used.

@jefftaylor536 Жыл бұрын

I would like to see how it works...I have Lourdes hydrofix for hydrogen water and gas for my health Hydrogen fascinates with it special properties.

@KristiContemplates Жыл бұрын

and in the darkness bind them

@terrafirma9328 Жыл бұрын

@@tonyvieson9194 Good point. Especially when contries decide to go to war over resources instead of using their own available in their land.

@ericstark Жыл бұрын

Your videos keep getting better Matt.

@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that. Thanks for watching.

@MrChefjms Жыл бұрын

Hydrogen has to become a major player, it's the most abundant element in the universe and it's there for a reason!

@charles6084 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your time and hard work. I believe there is a place for all renewable energy sources. With ever evolving breakthroughs in technology there is no renewable energy source that can be ruled out, fusion for example. Wishing you Happy Holidays and good health in 2023.

@SteveMichaels Жыл бұрын

Thank you Matt ! I appreciate your research on interesting topics, with hydrogens abundance to me its a solid argument for its future !

@HydrogenFuelTechnologies Жыл бұрын

I can't 100% prove it but I am almost 100% certain this guy is a paid progandalist hired by the elite to be a pawn in this game thats been going on 100 years, I'm also certain he dropped this video after I dropped mine a couple days ago. I'm not as professional as this beta nerd but I'm smarter and I've been investigating the hydrogen tech and experimenting a lot longer to assure all his audience that he is lying and being very careful how he spins the hydrogen information he gives you. The tech is much more beyond anything he regurgitates out in a pretty video for you.

@colingenge9999 Жыл бұрын

Abundance does not mean it is easy to access.

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle Жыл бұрын

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@andresmarrero8666 Жыл бұрын

@@colingenge9999 it is everywhere around us which makes it very easy for us to get our hands on it. Trying to ship it like gas is actually a limiting factor that has more to do with bureaucracy and legal issues rather than efficiency.

@colingenge9999 Жыл бұрын

@@andresmarrero8666 When hydrogen burns it turns into water as energy is given off. When you say Hydrogen is “everywhere around us” you must mean Hydrogen in the form of water. Yes, granted but that Hydrogen has essentially already reacted with Oxygen and its energy given off. To get the Hydrogen back requires a lot of energy but when we burn it again we only recover a small fraction of that energy. There is literally zero free Hydrogen on Earth that is not in a man made facility. Doesn’t exist unless you want to go to a Star like our Sun that has lots of Hydrogen but a bit tricky to get it to Earth. Shipping Hydrogen is extremely difficult. Could be low pressure gas pipeline but it cannot contact metal because it embrittles by working its way into the crystalline structure. Compressing to 10,000 psi and above is possible but the carbon fiber tanks are as heavy as the Hydrogen. Can liquify but has lowest bowling point of any gas so you’d a super cooling refrigeration system that is both costly to build, maintain and operate. Talking about efficiency, 100 kWh of energy converted to Hydrogen which is later used in a fuel cell for example will give back about 22 kWh in a very complex series of steps which is why Hydrogen only exists in some vehicles because governments have funded it while green hydrogen production and utilization has been nearly a complete failure.

@fightocondria Жыл бұрын

Maybe it would be worth while to have you and TF talk this one out? I'd watch that video. I felt like this screamed scam tech the first time around. You may have had the wool pulled over your eyes mate.

@danjohnson191 Жыл бұрын

What about using the storage medium for vehicle structure so it does double duty to compensate for the extra weight?

@randyfelts4625 Жыл бұрын

Soooo.... metal hydryd storage for Hydrogen was my 7th grade science fair project... in the 70s. It's interesting that we are just now to the theoretical density limits that I found back then... and still large scale is the only real good use. Good to see that science is still science in some quarters.

@Dev-lc4cd Жыл бұрын

Love this channel, every new video, I almost always think its the best one yet, but this one is undeniably so. Though I'm not finding much info on my particular interest, decentralized energy production and storage, like the idea of a thorium reactor in every home, and the engineering of homes that minimize dependence on enclosed spaces (obviously, such a thing is geographically dependent).

@kimwarburton8490 Жыл бұрын

if you havent already, take a gander at off-grid living solutions, but to be honest, most use geothermal, solar, wind and/or hydro combined with batteries and earthen heatsinks combined with air flow solutions and window angles for optimal conditions to reach passive house standards so as little energy is needed as possible I dont like the idea of thorium reactors in every home, because half the population is below average intelligence. As safe as thorium is, it is not idiot proof

@gregbailey45 Жыл бұрын

@@kimwarburton8490 agreed, good as I believe LFTR's are, they are more suited to municipal or district level use where expensive monitoring is more practical. I wish more people would consider their use.

@kimwarburton8490 Жыл бұрын

@@gregbailey45 would be good for hospitals and industry imo where theres already a pool of people with appropriate talents

@kimwarburton8490 Жыл бұрын

edit, and high energy demands

@gringo1723 Жыл бұрын

Beats the hell out of a SMALL THERMONUCLEAR DEVICE in every abode... 😎

@maladaptedmalarkey Жыл бұрын

For me, it’s all about discovering new approaches to old problems, particularly replacements for fossil fuels that objectively perform better with far fewer emissions. Is this the case with hydrides? Possibly. I think you made the case that it is plausible that hydrides will be an economical replacement for some use cases currently met by fossil fuels. Thanks for taking a closer look.

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle Жыл бұрын

This technology existed over 30 years ago.... Scientists would know this was a legit way of transferring and storing energy. But this is literally snake oil and Matt is a snake oil Salemen

@mr88cet Жыл бұрын

Excellent clarification, Matt! Thanks.

@Luddite-vd2ts Жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm new to this channel, and am pleased to have found it. I found the subject matter very interesting and well presented. I'd like to level one criticism re presentation. I'm a none expert. A lot of the content took me time to 'digest', i.e. understand. Matt, your pace of delivery is rapid, very rapid. Throw into the mix that you also have a North American accent (I'm from the UK) and a wearer of hearing aids and I was repeatedly stopping and replaying this to comprehend the content. The speed of delivery was tiring. I watch quite a few tech channels on KZfaq: Just Have a Think, Real Engineering, Greg's Planes and Automobiles, Curious Droid. Some fairly heavy weight subjects. But all of them have a slower pace of delivery that allows the synapses of my brain to connect and get an understanding, before cantering onto the next part of the concept. I'd add that the presenter of Real Engineering has an Irish accent, but he's still slow, and comprehensible. I hope you don't find the above upsetting. Your content is really interesting. I will be investigating further. Thanks.

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle Жыл бұрын

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@Boboche Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video. Always interresting to see “eventual” competing technologies.

@TechnoGlobalist Жыл бұрын

Not according to musk:"hydrogen is dead and stupid"

@lawrencefox563 Жыл бұрын

Of course test it but it's used in submarines isn't it proven just find most suitable applications.

@malcolm_in_the_middle Жыл бұрын

Could you cover the idea of using a (proprietary) aluminium-based powder to react with water, releasing hydrogen in-situ? This is currently being researched by the US military, and has a pretty high energy density. It might be a competitive storage method.

@tonychesser8710 Жыл бұрын

Rodger Billings drove a hydrogen-fueled Cadillac in Jimmy Carter's inauguration parade. The fuel was stored in metal hydrides. The hydrogen was fed to an ICE (this was, after all, 1977) and the exhaust went through a pipe through the fuel tank, with the exhaust heat warming the hydrides to dissociate the hydrogen from the metal. The tech has been around for a while. They even had the US Army test it. They shot a fueled tank and got a "pilot light" flame as a result. No explosion, because the hydrides were slow to dissocate the hydrogen.