Solid State Batteries - Autumn 2021 mass production in Japan. Is it FINALLY happening?

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Just Have a Think

Just Have a Think

2 жыл бұрын

Solid state batteries are the long-promised Holy Grail of battery technology. They're smaller and better than existing Lithium Ion batteries. They charge more quickly and last much longer. What's not to like? Trouble is, no-one's managed to mass produce one at any useful scale yet. Turns out it's quite tricky to make them reliable! Now though, two major Japanese companies are finally firing up their full production lines. So will 2021 be the year?
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@terrykillip8504
@terrykillip8504 2 жыл бұрын
In the early 90s I was a tv engineer and I went to a training course at a large electronics company, the teacher told us he was in Japan at this company and was told they we’re developing TVs that would be able to hang on a wall. We all laughed.
@bijoychandraroy
@bijoychandraroy 2 жыл бұрын
japan: who is laughing now? u-ha ha ha!
@coolgaga
@coolgaga 2 жыл бұрын
Back to 30 year ago, I saw plasma Tv at the lab, I told my friend the future TV is v.thin, they think I am a big scam, ha. Ha..
@Mr.Marbles
@Mr.Marbles 2 жыл бұрын
show someone in the 90s a raspberry pie and tell them how much it costs. they would probably send you to a psychiatrist.
@h8GW
@h8GW 2 жыл бұрын
Show somebody in the 16th century a battery-powered flashlight and good luck not getting burned as a witch.
@MediumDamon
@MediumDamon 2 жыл бұрын
@@h8GW Tell someone in the 21st century that you've found a way to travel back to the 16th century... and it'll be forgotten as soon as they scroll to the next comment. Not a dig at your comment- just an observation about 21st century society
@rodmorrison47
@rodmorrison47 2 жыл бұрын
This quiet, unassuming little video is probably the most exciting thing I've seen this year. Great presentation, great stuff.
@ixifutureproof9286
@ixifutureproof9286 2 жыл бұрын
Look up JCBs hydrogen engine
@cyclocop1773
@cyclocop1773 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with hydrogen is with its production. Unless it is green hydrogen, it's actually worse than burning fossil fuel in terms of greenhouse gas emissions.
@myworld8266
@myworld8266 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyclocop1773 the very fact you used the word green means you know very little about the subject. Wind power is about the very worst environmental energy production system that could actually ever be thought of, wind farms are about 10 times more environmentally damaging than fossil fuels have ever been, but you be happy in your deluded world of ignorance. Hydrogen is an energy storage unit and not a fuel, which is in fact required because of the total failures of Wind and solar power.
@cyclocop1773
@cyclocop1773 2 жыл бұрын
@@myworld8266 I get my sources from the IET publications. Where do you get yours? Your arguments are flawed. Hydrogen can be used as both to store energy as in a battery and directly as a fuel. Solar and wind energy have an important part to play in the energy generation mix required to achieve net 0% carbon emissions. Converting wind or solar energy into hydrogen is very inefficient. It is more efficient to feed the electricity grid directly.
@myworld8266
@myworld8266 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyclocop1773 yrs of course you get your information for sources who have a direct investment in perpetuating a lie. 80% of the time wind farms produce no electric - during September 2021 the green technology provided a total of 1% of the UK electricity requirement (Governments own figures), when wind farms do produce any electricity it is usually at times the country does not need the electricity and so it goes to waste. The only reason the wind farms are there is because the Government funds them to the tune of £350,000 per wind turbine per cycle, again Governments own figures. The is a mass of failed blades which cannot be recycled and so will go to land fill, each blade is longer than a football field. The concrete bases used to put these towers on require between 20 and 50 tonnes of Concrete, to make the concrete generates between 10 and 25 tonnes of CO2 released to atmosphere. The only possible hope to gain anything from wind is to use Hydrogen - the wasted electricity can be converted to Hydrogen and stored in tanks then fed back into power generators to be converted back to electricity when required. The other use for Hydrogen will be as a replacement for natural gas - the boiler industry has already got working Hydrogen house boilers out there for then the gas network is converted dot Hydrogen supply. there will never be enough infrastructure to supply electricity to all the required EV that will be on the road, so the only answer is Hydrogen, which using a Hydrogen cell can convert the Gas to electricity to power the vehicles. Go get some books and do some real research and not rely on power company documents for your sources of information.
@louroboros
@louroboros 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear an update about Murata given the timelines outlined in this video have since passed. A look at their stock price over the last year indicates that they maybe failed to deliver on those timelines (but then again, the economy hasn't exactly been kind to most companies). Still, I'd love to hear a progress update. How do you keep tabs on companies that are working on new tech like this? It's difficult to find any articles that aren't just about quarterly earnings reports.
@kellwillsen
@kellwillsen 2 жыл бұрын
I use a powerchair, and the development of a lightweight, reliable, powerful battery would make a world of difference to me. Very informative video, thanks!
@heiwamjollier7434
@heiwamjollier7434 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you'd become one with the Internet
@chancegeorge5583
@chancegeorge5583 2 жыл бұрын
Lithium iron phosphate
@cameronbartlett6593
@cameronbartlett6593 2 жыл бұрын
Better get yourself some wheelie bars.
@tonn333
@tonn333 2 жыл бұрын
Tf is a powechair
@thamesmud
@thamesmud 2 жыл бұрын
As George says below LiFePO4 batteries are available now the give about 4 times the range of gel batteries with a great increase increase in service life. The wheelchair companies just aren't interested so it's strictly DIY at the moment.
@wolfgangfalck1250
@wolfgangfalck1250 2 жыл бұрын
There's a saying about Graphene being able to do everyting besides getting out of the lab. ;)
@boedillard8807
@boedillard8807 2 жыл бұрын
I think the first time that I remember seeing something on it was in 1995 or so popular mechanics. I think I've seen someone promise it ever 4 months or so since then. The invisible graphene batteries while they don't actually exist generate insane amount of monies in stocks, grants, and endowments for people and companies that say whoops about a year later after anouncing a big breakthrough.
@TheSlimCognito
@TheSlimCognito 2 жыл бұрын
Graphine may get out of the lab thanks to AMD. they are working on it to produce faster pc hardware and from what I read, they were able to produce 5 CPU's that worked at incredible speeds. Unfortunately the tests ended with failures. They concluded that the failures were due to the fact that the silicon systems they attached the cpu's to could not handle them and fried. Their goal is a 100% Graphine system by 2030 and I feel like they could do it. One cpu was said to have clocked speeds of nearly 23ghz per core on a small 4 core cpu. That was back in 2018 so I would imagine that they have made at least some progress by now.
@gacherumburu9958
@gacherumburu9958 2 жыл бұрын
True
@neilquechon8716
@neilquechon8716 2 жыл бұрын
Theorically, graphene properties where theorised a long time ago... but graphene was considered impossible to be makable in reality... until 2010 when it was proven false. So it's not really something who is on the table for a lot more than 10 years... wich is not that much in the field of new materials 😉and the challenge of being able to make graphene is not really the problem anymore, it's more mass production wich pose a challenge
@boedillard8807
@boedillard8807 2 жыл бұрын
@@neilquechon8716 Cold Fusion batteries will hit the market first.
@jjgdenisrobert
@jjgdenisrobert 2 жыл бұрын
I do think that starting with small batteries is the way to go. That’s how lithium-ion got successful, since every step in the scale up process presents its own engineering challenges.
@dxbmick
@dxbmick 2 жыл бұрын
I remember 40 years ago the button style batteries for small devices being Lithium Ion. You're right, this is the way to go.
@HolbrookStark
@HolbrookStark 2 жыл бұрын
@@dxbmick I still remember when I was a kid and one of the reasons electric cars were supposed to be impossible was "lithium ion batteries aren't any good in large scale uses." And people are still butthurt about Tesla figuring out how to make big lion batteries
@wnxdafriz
@wnxdafriz 2 жыл бұрын
@@HolbrookStark ummm, if you look at the cells, technically tesla didn't make bigger lithium batteries.. they just added a whole bunch and now the entire bottom of your car is basically a battery pack... they did learn from the leaf though to make sure they added active cooling features for the packs to ensure the longevity of the packs themselves also.. it has been years with plenty of observation and research to show how best to maintain the batteries overall charge from deteriorating too fast as well as improvements to charge the batteries faster.. if superchargers didn't exist you probably would have never seen tesla's being bought for anything other than in town driving (likely 40 miles or less)
@FalkinerTim
@FalkinerTim 2 жыл бұрын
I have an MG ZS EV and use it as a second car to drive in the city. I do not want a bigger battery to lug around. Range is not an issue as we have a petrol car we can use for long distance travelling.
@nigonkouk1770
@nigonkouk1770 2 жыл бұрын
69th thumb up yo' ;|)
@mareklewandowski7784
@mareklewandowski7784 2 жыл бұрын
Fast forward to today: Murata is in deed producing SSBs but only 25mAh. Hitachi has produced 1000mAh battery but not on commercial scale. Guess we're slowly getting there...
@chiragojha7311
@chiragojha7311 2 жыл бұрын
I can see myself watching this video in 2025 and still expecting solid state to come to market. 🙏
@phillip1211
@phillip1211 2 жыл бұрын
It just takes imagination. The technology has always followed.
@chiragojha7311
@chiragojha7311 2 жыл бұрын
@@phillip1211 true just how slow technology follows which imagination no one knows. In this case it has been following since last 20+ years
@KertaDrake
@KertaDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Just like viable nuclear fusion...
@PaulJolley
@PaulJolley 2 жыл бұрын
Have faith. In the world factory, it can already be made. Everyone is bluffing. instead of developing. Batteries are essential for world development, not just in vehicles but in everything. Batteries are saving energy, which is time.
@ElectricEarth
@ElectricEarth 2 жыл бұрын
I can see myself in 2023 with a *solid* boot on my face put there by the globalist *state* as they engage in *battery* of those who refuse their technocracy.
@darentsimon
@darentsimon 2 жыл бұрын
This has been the most balanced & informative video on SSB I've come across. Thank you & keep up the great work....
@JustHaveaThink
@JustHaveaThink 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Darren. Much appreciated :-)
@bluetoad2668
@bluetoad2668 2 жыл бұрын
Errr ..have you ever watched the limiting factor?
@flyingdutch9818
@flyingdutch9818 2 жыл бұрын
Heard of LiFePO4 champ? Been solid state for years. This clown has half a clue about what he’s talking and jumbles terms and science at will.
@mafarmerga
@mafarmerga 2 жыл бұрын
@@flyingdutch9818 "Heard of LiFePO4 champ?" Doesn't sound as if the Holy Grail has been found. "The main drawback of LiFePOvis its low electrical conductivity. Therefore, all the LiFePO cathodes under consideration are actually LiFePO/C. Because of low cost, low toxicity, well-defined performance, long-term stability, etc. LiFePO is finding a number of roles in vehicle use, utility scale stationary applications, and backup power." Wikipedia By my understanding you would need four 3V LiFePO4 batteries in a row to equal a single 12V lead/acid battery. If you have the space and weight for three extra batteries good on ya mate. But not sure my iPhone is quite ready for this upgrade.
@largepimping
@largepimping 2 жыл бұрын
@@mafarmerga Sounds like you're confusing "batteries" and "cells." A "12V lead/acid battery" is comprised of 6 cells of ~2V each. A 12V LifePO4 battery takes 4 cells, or 1/3 fewer, to make (basically) the same voltage. Regardless, I'm not sure what you're point is. Are you saying that lead acid is superiour to LifePO4, and that's why your iPhone is using a lead acid battery and not LifePO4?
@jellyd4889
@jellyd4889 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable to watch. Informative and not clickbait!
@nyanko2077
@nyanko2077 2 жыл бұрын
When I was living in Japan years ago, I owned an ultra portable panasonic pc weighting less than 1.2kg which had no fans thanks to a new cooling technology. A few years later, the first fan free macbook air was announced and everybody thought Apple had done something incredible.
@kewintaylor7056
@kewintaylor7056 2 жыл бұрын
U means now...notebook didnt have fans?
@Thor_Asgard_
@Thor_Asgard_ 2 жыл бұрын
nothing special, apple is well known for bad cooling, not connecting heatsink to kill performance etc. especially the mcbook air sucks hard.
@xxzenonionnex7658
@xxzenonionnex7658 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thor_Asgard_ the mack book air was one of the worst devices I've ever used but people still buy them because Apple = better.
@Thor_Asgard_
@Thor_Asgard_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@xxzenonionnex7658 ppl are morons. they are manipulated beyond believe. no chance to rescue their souls.
@brimleyhillmassive
@brimleyhillmassive 2 жыл бұрын
@@beyondtimeandspace105 aren't you sick of the taste by now?
@henryrooyakkers8510
@henryrooyakkers8510 2 жыл бұрын
You speak so clearly and in a good tempo that even for a not good English speaker its easy and pleasant to follow. Thanks !
@jamespardue3055
@jamespardue3055 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you again. I'm just encouraged that there is so much R&D finally going into getting this technology to market.
@stopscammingman
@stopscammingman 2 жыл бұрын
These were excellent and encouraging updates, with important nuances too.
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 2 жыл бұрын
Only just discovered this channel - and subscribed almost immediately! What a revelation - an intelligent, informed discussion, no flashy graphics and constant jump cuts, and - glory be - no music!! And a wonderful bonus - an English presenter. I hadn't realised until today just how irritated I'd got with the ever-present KZfaq American accent. Thank you.
@mauritiusdunfagel9473
@mauritiusdunfagel9473 2 жыл бұрын
I like your little atmospheric interruptions. They’re cool!
@JRattheranch
@JRattheranch 2 жыл бұрын
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@ntmoucn
@ntmoucn 2 жыл бұрын
I like the „empty battery promise“ : )
@bite-my-shinny-metal-ass
@bite-my-shinny-metal-ass 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I was *exactly* on your comment hen he said that. I liiiiike
@eitkoml
@eitkoml 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the Chinese will solve this problem.
@andiman45
@andiman45 2 жыл бұрын
i knew there would be a naysayer here...LOL
@starbirthcalamity
@starbirthcalamity 2 жыл бұрын
This is my first video from JHT, and thank. This was extremely digestible. Subscribed.
@bennurflus1123
@bennurflus1123 2 жыл бұрын
So many technologies throughout history have been deemed near impossible but yet came to fruition: Necessity is the mother of all inventions.
@kimweaver1252
@kimweaver1252 Жыл бұрын
Just as many, or more, have been hyped as the ultimate new thing, and are now in the memory hole.
@rajivpokharel88
@rajivpokharel88 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Well arranged and such a pleasing to watch/listen.
@JustHaveaThink
@JustHaveaThink 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! :-)
@pebre79
@pebre79 2 жыл бұрын
Finally have better understanding with the battery animation. You spent a lot of time on that excellent graphic. I learned a lot. For that I thank you!
@ypeihan
@ypeihan 2 жыл бұрын
I love how eloquent you are. Great presentation! Appreciate your efforts and keep it up!
@piyush9960
@piyush9960 2 жыл бұрын
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@thayes.2240
@thayes.2240 2 жыл бұрын
Your voice is really calming, nice inflections and cadence. Consider me subbed.
@moneycash7
@moneycash7 2 жыл бұрын
“No doubt you’ve heard of the dreaded dendrite issue” - had me in stitches lol 😂. Knowledgeable and insightful presentation - worth following this channel. Thanks for all the research
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat 2 жыл бұрын
I know of the 'dendrite' issue, but, I've also worked with Li-Ion cells for at least a decade. 😁 Good point though: very few 'lamens' would know.
@SuperSmitty9999
@SuperSmitty9999 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the dendrites are the primary reason lithium batteries age. I knew what they were. (alright I’m the weirdo)
@hifinsword
@hifinsword 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone flying RC EDF models on 6S LiPos should be familiar with the dendrite issue. It's the primary reason we have to retire a battery from flight duty.
@monteceitomoocher
@monteceitomoocher 2 жыл бұрын
Tin whiskers or dendrites have plagued the semiconductor industry from the start, fascinating subject, NASA has tons of stuff about it on their site.
@DavidEsp1
@DavidEsp1 2 жыл бұрын
My old 1970-'s transistor radio receiver recently failed. It uses "lockfit" transistors, a type known to fail due to dendrites that grow over time.
@pedrovazquez9146
@pedrovazquez9146 2 жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate the educative videos!
@ThUnDaHuNtA_Australia
@ThUnDaHuNtA_Australia 2 жыл бұрын
i think ive said it before, you are such a clear, articulate, interesting and easy speaker to listen to, unlike others you talk sensibly like you are not in a hurry to get it over with and be somewhere else. it gives one time to think about and absorb what you're saying. you are the sort of person that one aspires to be able to meet one day, shake your hand and say hi in person. how can i not subscribe....
@carsonj4031
@carsonj4031 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about new batteries that "charge in minutes" "last forever" and "never wear out" back in 2010. Feels like I've been waiting forever.
@altrag
@altrag 2 жыл бұрын
Goes back a lot further than that. The battery market has almost always been awash with companies over-promising and under-delivering. But progress is being made nonetheless. Its unlikely we'll ever have a battery that lasts literally forever and never wears out (stupid thermodynamics) but there's no reason that we can't have batteries a lot closer to that ideal than we have today. That said, there are some already-known limitations, particularly with respect to energy density. In particular, its not really possible to do better than lithium so the anode is pretty much fixed. The cathode can potentially be improved still but that was the focus for so long that any significant improvements at this point would most likely take a totally unexpected outside-the-box idea. Which leaves the electrolyte as the main thing we can really play around with these days, hence seeing so much effort put into this arena (not just solid state but liquid electrolytes as well are still getting a lot of research to try and improve their properties, limit dendrite formation, etc). Of course that's mostly for consumer-scale devices. There is a lot more research and a lot more possibilities when we're looking at grid-scale or even house-scale batteries. Reducing or removing the need to be physically small takes a lot of pressure off of that energy density requirement and allows a much greater focus on other desirable aspects such as charge/discharge rate, longevity, etc. Safety is also not _as_ much of a concern as its not likely to be in someone's pocket or right underneath their butts for the most part. Obviously you still don't want a battery with a high risk of a major explosion but you have a lot more flexibility particularly when it comes to operating at higher temperatures (which opens the door to even more possibilities for all three parts of the battery's chemistry). Its certainly an exciting field, if you're the kind of person who gets excited more by fundamental technologies rather than the shiny things built on top of those technologies. If you're looking for a research position in the next 10-20 years its probably a good field to get into. Particularly if you can work on grid-scale solutions which are going to be in _massive_ demand as the world pushes toward more and more solar and wind power generation, both of which require enormous energy storage solutions and most of our existing non-battery solutions such as pumped hydro are far too reliant on local geography to be useful across all of the areas we'll need storage before we can fully switch to renewables.
@deadprivacy
@deadprivacy 2 жыл бұрын
these specifications already exists, 30% less energy density is the tradeoff compared to LIPO lithium titanate or LTO cells are what you are after. but fast charging than lipo, not quite supercap speeds but very rapid- capable of high power delivery without overheating- and 30000 cycles. lipo is 2000-3000
@lazyg123
@lazyg123 2 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair "charge in minutes" concept has pretty much come true, it doesn't take 4-5 hours to charge your phone anymore, if your phone uses power delivery it charges in less than an hour most of the time
@altrag
@altrag 2 жыл бұрын
@@lazyg123 Yeah, but people are impatient. They want batteries that charge as fast as pouring gas into the tank on an ICE vehicle. Longevity is more the issue with phone batteries - though there's still some question about how much of that is physics and how much is planned obsolescence.
@lazyg123
@lazyg123 2 жыл бұрын
@@altragyeah true battery capacity and life expectancy is still obviously a problem, that's why I said the first problem, and when batteries catch on fire or stop working after a long amount of time not being charged that is a very big piss off for sure yeah
@carloscabral6003
@carloscabral6003 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I've never seen your videos. This is the first I've seen and I loved it. I am a tech oriented guy, so I like to keep my self updated in what innovation they will be coming with next and this video got me really excited. Your video was wel put together and I really enjoyed the content. Thank you so much!!! Subbed and liked
@grindupBaker
@grindupBaker 2 жыл бұрын
He gets through an interesting mix of stuff. Like a combo of technology info and advertising, which is inevitable, unavoidable.
@carloscabral6003
@carloscabral6003 2 жыл бұрын
@@grindupBaker Yes he definetly does! When i was thinking something he basically answered it!!
@digigoliath
@digigoliath 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Same feeling.
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 2 жыл бұрын
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@vincentrisalvato9126
@vincentrisalvato9126 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching UR channel for a while now and really enjoy it! Keep them coming...
@venkatramanansubramaniam4316
@venkatramanansubramaniam4316 2 жыл бұрын
As always, a well researched and well analysed smooth and graceful presentation. Keep it up.
@Wolfie-76
@Wolfie-76 2 жыл бұрын
It was a pleasure to listen such a calm voice. Well done Mr Borlace and thank you for fantastic presentation.
@Davidhjrick
@Davidhjrick 2 жыл бұрын
I love the presentation style of this guy
@jeremywhite164
@jeremywhite164 2 жыл бұрын
I love this guy and am a huge fan. Great video and explanations.
@bluetoad2668
@bluetoad2668 2 жыл бұрын
Ever watched the limiting factor?
@bm8641
@bm8641 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in 97 when people in the wind generation industry were seen like some sort of outcast engineers or rather failed engineers and discussions about the maximum size of a wind mill saying that will never exceed 1 MW. ... Fast forward 20 years ...
@wayward03
@wayward03 2 жыл бұрын
And they still don't pay for themselves without government subsidies....They are also a burden on the grid. Hydro and Nuclear are the only useful "green" energy sources at this point in time and probably will be until storage is cheap, efficient and cleaner than simply running nat gas.
@ezion67
@ezion67 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayward03 You almost have a point except that... Wind turbines do pay for themself and (at least in Europe) only received a fraction of government subsidies nuclear and fossil have had over the years. Nuclear has a large hidden cost in the dismantling of old installations and there is the "slight" proliferation issue.
@andreycham4797
@andreycham4797 2 жыл бұрын
Russians start building a nuclear plant to put uranium 238 in use if they , not if, when they succeed the world will be supplied with cheap energy for another 5000 years and your wind turbines had looked pathetic 20 years ago and even more pathetic now
@faustin289
@faustin289 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreycham4797 Can you elaborate on this? The only new nuclear tech in the news today is Thorium-based molten salt reactors.
@francesconicoletti2547
@francesconicoletti2547 2 жыл бұрын
20 years. These solid state guys are say 2. I don’t actually think you can spend your way out of a development cycle.
@totallypointlessvideos3832
@totallypointlessvideos3832 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this step change for a long time.
@warrenbosch3581
@warrenbosch3581 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation! Well done. Thank you!
@TheTrophyStore
@TheTrophyStore 2 жыл бұрын
OH WHAT A FEELING. Jump Toyota Jump High. Great job
@triplikeido75
@triplikeido75 2 жыл бұрын
Who could ask for anything more?? Toyota!!
@AnujFalcon
@AnujFalcon 2 жыл бұрын
Great narrative. Seems well researched. The formation is given at the right rate even for a newbie like me to understand. Good job. I had to subscribe - No other choice 😂.
@jameshoiby
@jameshoiby 2 жыл бұрын
This is possibly the best introduction to the current state of solid state batteries I've ever seen. Thank you!
@BionicRusty
@BionicRusty 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Sir. Thank you 🙏
@chriskiwi9833
@chriskiwi9833 2 жыл бұрын
Just what I need for starting my fusion reactor…
@rc12188
@rc12188 2 жыл бұрын
I truly think batteries need to be the next big thing in life. The next wow. Whether it’s this or a different technology. Batteries are on the top of the list, finally.
@aasf444
@aasf444 2 жыл бұрын
ASSBs are a dream for now
@Nemi9
@Nemi9 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I was totally immersed with learning from you. Those slides, about the batteries lithium ion and solid state. Absolutely splendid visual treat. Man you deserve every patreon or donation you can get. What an educator. Thank you so much.
@OurModelRailroad
@OurModelRailroad 2 жыл бұрын
Very go segment. Look forward to more content.
@moazdaza7275
@moazdaza7275 2 жыл бұрын
"or will this be another empty battery promise" I saw what you sir did there... and i liked it.. 😹😹
@FilamentFriday
@FilamentFriday 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation and interesting technology but no details on power capability of this small battery. Will it require 100’s or 1000’s of them in series/parallel arrangement to produce any level of useable power? How difficult would charging them be at that point? These are the obstacles I see that will still push this technology out many more years but it is a step in the right direction.
@natespurgat6245
@natespurgat6245 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I've seen, most existing EV battery packs are already essentially just hundreds of 18650 size Li-ion battery cells all wired together to achieve the desired power output, with fire-retardant foam packed between them to reduce the damage that could be caused by any cell failing.
@bodcare1332
@bodcare1332 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I came across your channel for the first time and I liked it very much it was very interesting
@thismoment57
@thismoment57 2 жыл бұрын
Well done and brilliantly presented! Thank you!
@handmade_videos
@handmade_videos 2 жыл бұрын
Well explained. I like the calm way of speaking and the knowledge you provide. Thanks. I think there is still a lot to discover and hopefully we will find a solution to the energy and environment crises - the sooner the better. Solid State Batteries could be a part of that way!
@andypowell7844
@andypowell7844 2 жыл бұрын
I've been an avid Sci-Fi watcher since the 1960's. I truly believe in the oft stated saying; "Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, he will achieve". So I do believe that the battery power we seek is out there waiting to be discovered and developed. Hopefully sooner rather than later eh?
@alfredspecht930
@alfredspecht930 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is, you need scientists to research what the mind conceived and you need engineers to put this in production. At the moment young peoply study gender studies, social sciences, feminism and journalism. We have a surplus of those professions in a state of cool starving of most of the people doing them. But whe have a lack of scientists and engineers. Still those woke domains are pushed.
@errolprice9654
@errolprice9654 2 жыл бұрын
My mind conceives something greater than a battery. A way of harnessing the zero point energy field remotely would be the pinnacle .
@MarkRuslinzski
@MarkRuslinzski 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking on being younger again do you think if I think about it enough I will be, lol, just messin around lol
@NGC008
@NGC008 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and thanks for sharing. Entertaining & informative.
@dirkrossey558
@dirkrossey558 2 жыл бұрын
clearest explanation I've heard in a long time. Thanks
@Scrogan
@Scrogan 2 жыл бұрын
Based Murata. I’ll get a dozen when they show up on LCSC. I’d like to see the specs though, mainly for how careful you have to be when over-charging/over-discharging, and how out of balance they could get when in series without a BMS. Soldering temperatures would also be good to know.
@brucebower4814
@brucebower4814 2 жыл бұрын
Good tech level points, my workbench/projects are waiting..
@powerlinkers
@powerlinkers 2 жыл бұрын
I have been hearing this for more than a decade.
@chetanjiva8874
@chetanjiva8874 2 жыл бұрын
Big thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@HimslGames
@HimslGames 2 жыл бұрын
Wow the videos on this channel are very informative.
@dougowt
@dougowt 2 жыл бұрын
If John B Goodenough thinks we will get there soon, then that’s good enough for me. No pun intended
@AaronSchwarz42
@AaronSchwarz42 2 жыл бұрын
John B Goodenough & Donald Sadoway are hero's // & should be national icons & awarded Nobel prizes for their ongoing work //
@Ry_TSG
@Ry_TSG 2 жыл бұрын
@@AaronSchwarz42 they don't have nobel prizes already???!!?!? Shameful
@klaxoncow
@klaxoncow 2 жыл бұрын
Don't lie. The pun was completely intended. I approve.
@kkarllwt
@kkarllwt 2 жыл бұрын
You have some serious drawing/drafting skills.
@JustHaveaThink
@JustHaveaThink 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I really appreciate that :-)
@fromthebackofmymind
@fromthebackofmymind 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, Sir.
@DriftinDoug
@DriftinDoug 2 жыл бұрын
THANKS! Cleared up the mud for me.
@a1a144
@a1a144 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on liquid grid, underwater energy storage; specifically cement spheres flag-shipped in Germany for Island states!! *great videos*
@jimchallender4616
@jimchallender4616 2 жыл бұрын
I'll believe it when I see it!! I'm not going to hold my breath!!
@Digital-Dan
@Digital-Dan 2 жыл бұрын
Right. That would not be compatible with any conceivable time scale.
@AnimilesYT
@AnimilesYT 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. But I am really excited for this technology and I expect it to really take off soon :D
@mikeep666
@mikeep666 2 жыл бұрын
Battery dev gets hobbled by big oil.
@John-vw4qz
@John-vw4qz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I found it quite informative.
@IlanPerez
@IlanPerez 2 жыл бұрын
brilliant overview of the topic. Thanks!
@ChinchillaBONK
@ChinchillaBONK 2 жыл бұрын
If we want to live in a truly "sci-fi" futuristic age of technology where we don't have to worry about carbon emissions and then push off in the next frontiers, battery technology MUST succeed.
@JoaoPereira-jt9ur
@JoaoPereira-jt9ur 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope solid state batteries are a real thing and become available soon 🤞
@maxmustermann76
@maxmustermann76 2 жыл бұрын
Me too . Batteries are achilles heel of modern smartphones
@gordonmackenzie4543
@gordonmackenzie4543 2 жыл бұрын
I've just discovered this! I wholeheartedly with agree with Darren Simon who said in an earlier comment "This has been the most balanced & informative video on SSB I've come across. Thank you & keep up the great work....". No hype, and balanced comment!
@simonwalkersoundtechnique
@simonwalkersoundtechnique 2 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed for this!
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, Murata sells quality goods. If Murata is actually reporting this, then it's likely happening.
@arthurmoore9488
@arthurmoore9488 2 жыл бұрын
It also looks like they aren't promising the world. Small batteries might not be great for grid storage or EVs, but are still worth a large amount of money.
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurmoore9488 They're also VERY loose with production samples, so once there's a part number if you have anything that even *looks* like a business you can get them sampled out as long as they're not ridiculously expensive per part.
@goodtreeministries3751
@goodtreeministries3751 2 жыл бұрын
The Japanese people take personal, family and company honor very seriously. They also have an insane work ethic. Their perspective allows for some of the best designed products that are complete with error free manfacturing and assembly. If it is make in Japan it is a high quality product. Perhaps the best of its kind in the world.
@jackwilson5542
@jackwilson5542 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, instead of creating hype they announced it when they are ready for mass production. It won't help EVs, but at least we will get wireless earbuds with 20 hours of battery life (outside the case) or a smartwatch that doesn't need charging every day.
@chrisb.7787
@chrisb.7787 2 жыл бұрын
@@goodtreeministries3751 they also have a suicide rate higher than LA's murder rate in the 90s. But yes everything I own and care about is Japanese.
@VNNZTC
@VNNZTC 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your low key format, it makes a change to watch someone who is not yelling into the mike and talking rubbish because they love the sound of their own voice...I think that the solid state battery is a fantastic idea and am really hoping that Murata can pull it off...I have subscribed, keep up the great videos...
@DollarMoviesUSA
@DollarMoviesUSA 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I’m a little disappointed that he didn’t yell “DONT FORGET TO SMASH THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTTON!!!”
@markkoons7488
@markkoons7488 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your content and presentation very much. Thank you.
@NADNIJ
@NADNIJ 2 жыл бұрын
excellent clip on solid state battery, well illustrated and explained without much jargon for laymen.
@andrewj8774
@andrewj8774 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, thanks so much for this video. I have swayed between lithium ion, hydrogen, nuclear etc.. Now think that solid state is the way to go, even for household use. Nothing is impossible, unless the will is not there.
@xdoods
@xdoods 2 жыл бұрын
Quick chemistry check: Caesium is the most electropositive element (that's not radioactive), but Lithium is in the same group with the "one electron in its valence shell," so it has the same properties and it is significantly lighter.
@jimbo2150
@jimbo2150 2 жыл бұрын
Except that caesium explodes when in contact with water... even as little as a decent amount of water particles in the atmosphere could set it off. So when you get into an accident and the battery gets punctured, your car explodes. Just want car manufacturers are looking for.
@xdoods
@xdoods 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimbo2150 I wasn't even close to saying Caesium should be used for batteries; it's way too heavy to be economically viable. I was giving JHAT a chemistry check, as I said.
@nonoignacio
@nonoignacio 2 жыл бұрын
HOLD ON, let me just google whatever both you said here before I reply
@xdoods
@xdoods 2 жыл бұрын
@@nonoignacio, no Googling necessary. I have a degree in chemical engineering with a long-time fascination with batteries. Electropositivity is an element's affinity for giving up valence electrons, which is easier the further away from the protons they are; positive charges attract negative ones, and the closer they are, the more they attract. Children learn that the first time they play with magnets. When you go down on the periodic table, the more shells, the further the valence shell is away from the nucleus. Easy as that. That is the reason caesium reacts more strongly than lithium in water (and in general). Lithium still explodes, just less violently. Imagine those videos stabbing batteries being even more violent. Caesium would also be a horrible choice for batteries for many reasons. Not only is it monumentally more expensive due to lack of abundance, but it's also much heavier than lithium (almost twenty times heavier) for the same energy density/atom - one electron per atom, again. You know what is way cheaper than lithium? sodium. You can literally just boil seawater, AND it gives up its valence electron much more easily. Sodium is three times heavier, reducing efficiency for the same energy density/atom: heavier cars, bigger batteries in phones, etc.
@RovingPunster
@RovingPunster 2 жыл бұрын
A cogent and informative overview of the state of the industry. Thanks, and +1.
@yanlongfu8443
@yanlongfu8443 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and it's really helpful!
@matho1961
@matho1961 2 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in seeing a discussion on the new aluminium-ion using graphene electrodes batteries that have recently been developed and patented by the University of Queensland in Australia
@dynaheirbe
@dynaheirbe 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you want to take a look at Illika’s battery tech. They have the medical solid state battery in production and have plans to scale it up with the goliath battery
@nigelturner3251
@nigelturner3251 2 жыл бұрын
Very exciting things to come from Ilika. Invested and hope to repp the rewards in the future.
@petrumanole9684
@petrumanole9684 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and useful! By the way, I like very much your Stirling engine from the background!
@vaibhavb9948
@vaibhavb9948 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work!!
@jonwatte4293
@jonwatte4293 2 жыл бұрын
Murata is pretty solid -- I specify them over most other component makers when I can.
@h8GW
@h8GW 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@MrReeceyburger123
@MrReeceyburger123 2 жыл бұрын
They make some good stuff, their caps being the best out of any caps.
@DanielRichards644
@DanielRichards644 2 жыл бұрын
with this whole "they can't get wet" thing it would seam to me like the Solid State Batteries are better suited for being placed in your home and used to hold the power generated by your solar panels. I mean 3 times the energy density of Lithium Ion would go a long way to having massive capacity storage in your house.
@switchbranch8411
@switchbranch8411 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but how often do your lithium batteries get wet?
@DanielRichards644
@DanielRichards644 2 жыл бұрын
@@switchbranch8411 what's your argument against something that would give 3 times the energy density? The video said they weren't good for cars due to the concern of them getting damaged and being exposed to water where that would not be an issue for either lithium ion or solid state inside your house, but 3 times the density means higher capacity per cubic foot of space inside a house sounds awesome.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need high density batteries at home for stationary storage purposes, that defeats the entire purpose. And you need only like 10-20 kWh max at home, which can already be 'easily' achieved by regular house storage options like Tesla's powerwalls etc.
@MaxThomas79
@MaxThomas79 2 жыл бұрын
While it sounds like a good idea, the main problem with in house electric storage isn’t energy density. It would be nice to have a smaller battery pack but many that can service a normal sized house can fit easily. The price is usually the limiting factor.
@DanielRichards644
@DanielRichards644 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxThomas79 well these solid state batteries are supposed to last longer are they not? so over time they will eventually make more sense even if they cost slightly more.
@violent8931
@violent8931 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt know lit-ion batt works like that.. that new to me.. thanks for the knowledge sir..
@rohansully584
@rohansully584 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video!
@Cl0ckcl0ck
@Cl0ckcl0ck 2 жыл бұрын
Graphene supercapacitors for the win. Lighter, faster charging, faster discharging and a whole lot of progress and investments are being made around graphene. If you can charge your car in minutes or even seconds then for most trips a smaller range on a charge won't matter at all for most uses.
@pipo5839
@pipo5839 2 жыл бұрын
Some guy in a lab coat is going to change the world.
@Daniel-qr6sx
@Daniel-qr6sx 2 жыл бұрын
Mm graphene is the way. However mass production is hard
@Deinorius
@Deinorius 2 жыл бұрын
Hold on for a second. I agree as far as charging speed is more important than range, at least if we can agree on some minimum range necessity like 300 km. But charging is not as simple as with gasoline or diesel or even hydrogen for that matter. Let's say we need at least 40 kWh batteries. So to charge it up fast to 80 % in 5 min you'll need over 350 kW power. That's going to be some expensive charging fee. It's possible but people should start to change their mind how to charge their EV in most cases. It should be slow! The faster you charge the more expensive it becomes. It's not just a limitation in battery technology but simply economics.
@iainansell5930
@iainansell5930 2 жыл бұрын
capacitors dissipate their charge while idle far quicker than batteries...
@chrisstubbs6391
@chrisstubbs6391 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deinorius There's also the issue that the fast charging will shorten battery life because all batteries lose capacitance with each cycle. Your 100% charge being displayed is only 70% of the maximum charge when it was first produced. How are you getting such a low efficiency of charge compared to input though? Nernst equations or something else? Not disagreeing, just the efficiency seems a little too low.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 Good thing dude practice his pants on fire dance moves for yrs.
@stevefugere2687
@stevefugere2687 2 жыл бұрын
Wish this would happen to our politicians.
@reikken69
@reikken69 2 жыл бұрын
this video surely made me optimistic about the future! danke!
@dannyo8396
@dannyo8396 2 жыл бұрын
Great objective overview, very much like the format. Just found your channel and subscribed.
@chuckkottke
@chuckkottke 2 жыл бұрын
One thing seems certain: stock prices for solid state battery companies seem to parallel tulip bulb prices... 🌷 🌷 🌷🌞
@tomboushel2357
@tomboushel2357 2 жыл бұрын
Rightly so given the projected 30% anticipated annual compounding growth.
@tombittikoffer412
@tombittikoffer412 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand... ?
@normandolinic2044
@normandolinic2044 2 жыл бұрын
@@tombittikoffer412 back in the 1800 people started to make a good profit on tulip bulbs, well there was a small shortage, that turned into an unreasonable demand for bulbs, and after awhile the price of bulbs was like 1000 x’s the normal price.And when people realize this ,people stop paying at these prices , the price drop to normal ,people lost their shirts.
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention crypto currencies...
@MrArtist7777
@MrArtist7777 2 жыл бұрын
I think solid-state batteries are inevitable but will take the next 3-10 years to develop and release. We take our basic li-on battery for granted but I remember reading about it being the holy grail and near-impossible dream, back in the early '80's, until Sony cracked the nut.
@treborsirrah7916
@treborsirrah7916 2 жыл бұрын
It was American technology, Japanese bought out the patents
@paulholterhaus7084
@paulholterhaus7084 2 жыл бұрын
@@rifleman42051 DREAM ON......FOOLISH CHILD.............Paul
@davidbeaulieu4815
@davidbeaulieu4815 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulholterhaus7084 it's slated for 2024. Probs take a bit longer but that's the goal.
@CharveL88
@CharveL88 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you don't see Elon jumping on the SS bandwagon. He's nothing if not practical. When SS is ready it's ready, but in the meantime we'll just need to wring the best we can out of Lion tech.
@-JustHuman-
@-JustHuman- 2 жыл бұрын
@@CharveL88 Even when you actually make it, it will take years to make it in high enough numbers, then years to make the production chain too. So from the time they have it, it will still be 8-10 years before it's going to be a thing consumers can actually buy.
@irfanhusein1445
@irfanhusein1445 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative. Thanks you
@Zeno2Day
@Zeno2Day 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ty. Very informative show.
@NeilABliss
@NeilABliss 2 жыл бұрын
Murata is a company to trust, I can see them cracking the small scale product they suggest. A big SS battery however may very well be the next fusion.
@Jefff72
@Jefff72 2 жыл бұрын
You just triggered the song Long and Winding Road by the Beatles in my head.
@LearnEnglishwithTrev
@LearnEnglishwithTrev 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent glad l am found this site.
@MaximilianBrunner
@MaximilianBrunner 2 жыл бұрын
Always glad for a technology roundup. The development of batterys is a grat midern calange ❤
@luipaardprint
@luipaardprint 2 жыл бұрын
How long did you practice that Fråganårfri, that sounded pretty good xD
We need to talk about your starving grandchildren.
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