Superhero Editorial Room 2

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Ай бұрын

In the comic industry, when comics are somehow actually managing to tell a story, we call in the big guns at the Superhero Editorial Office to throw a monkey wrench into things. Spider-Man, Green Lantern and others are about to find that out.
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@MagicCardboardBox
@MagicCardboardBox Ай бұрын
Spider-man writers really fucking hate spider-man
@harishmohan4478
@harishmohan4478 Ай бұрын
Spider-man writers hate Spider-man more than any of his villains do.
@Del_S
@Del_S Ай бұрын
The first rule of writing for comic books is you have to hate comic books.
@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii
@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii Ай бұрын
Even fans. God they are the worst
@CMCAdvanced
@CMCAdvanced Ай бұрын
Marvel comics writers hate comic books
@CMCAdvanced
@CMCAdvanced Ай бұрын
And so do DC writers, to be fair
@Vegas242
@Vegas242 Ай бұрын
"All it says is refrigerator" I'm gonna fucking scream oh my god
@Joseanzinho-cq7zf
@Joseanzinho-cq7zf Ай бұрын
Context?
@ComicalCatastrophe
@ComicalCatastrophe Ай бұрын
Explain please
@chandracraft7736
@chandracraft7736 Ай бұрын
@@Joseanzinho-cq7zfKyle’s girlfriend was killed and then stuffed into the fridge for him to find. It’s where the trope comes from
@gerudoson4963
@gerudoson4963 Ай бұрын
@@Joseanzinho-cq7zf Kyle's girlfriend got stuffed in a fridge in one comic, just to mess with kyle. If youve heard the term fridging, thats where it comes from.
@fleeb198
@fleeb198 Ай бұрын
I have no clue what this means
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi Ай бұрын
It's wild to me how the hatred of Paul entered the mainstream. The insane plots that happen in comics usually stay in niche nerd circles. But not Paul. Humanity has united in hating him.
@Kshandamion
@Kshandamion Ай бұрын
Like the comic book equivalent of Drake.
@RED-ew2xt
@RED-ew2xt Ай бұрын
who's paul
@metazoxan2
@metazoxan2 Ай бұрын
Because everyone but the deranged idiots in charge of Spiderman agreed having SPiderman litterally get cucked and demonized by the story was going way too far. We're used to him suffering at this point but ... this was just pure mean spirited. You could tell someone on the staff HATED Spiderman with every fiber of their being and got into Marvel just to destroy Spiderman. THeir entire life was devoted to character assasianting a comic book character.
@andrewrobinson8542
@andrewrobinson8542 Ай бұрын
I've never read a Spider-Man comic in my life, yet I know who Paul is and why everyone hates him.
@gearoidoconnell5729
@gearoidoconnell5729 Ай бұрын
I think Paul lots easy to say then one more day 2.
@kraikein
@kraikein Ай бұрын
I like the implication Gwen Stacey was killed off like a mafia hit by the editors cause she wanted progress in her and Peter's relationship, Green Goblin was the fall guy
@EvilDoresh
@EvilDoresh 29 күн бұрын
I'd say they killed two birds with one stone with this one.
@sollyswolly1623
@sollyswolly1623 15 күн бұрын
*claps applaudingly* @@EvilDoresh
@jordanloux3883
@jordanloux3883 9 күн бұрын
Norman: Look I know I'm pure evil and all but... but can we stop with the me and Gwen stuff? Please? Please!
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache Ай бұрын
I really hate Marvel editors not wanting Peter Parker married, all so he can be a "relatable" loser.
@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii
@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii Ай бұрын
Didn't it happened in the new ultimate comic run?
@solarfiringtiger4254
@solarfiringtiger4254 Ай бұрын
@@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii yeah but it's a completely new universe
@LP-ct9nk
@LP-ct9nk Ай бұрын
Is it marvel or is it the fans? I could see a world where fans would get bored with spiderman having a happy home, but fighting villains all the time. It also seems like a lot of interesting story arcs for the character arise from the fact that he’s always juggling his need to protect the city with his need to protect his loved ones
@ValdVincent
@ValdVincent Ай бұрын
He's not really relatable, that was Ditko Spider man was a the nerdy relatable comic book fan.
@nothingwrong2293
@nothingwrong2293 Ай бұрын
​@@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiiithis one is under Avangers editors, not Spider-Man
@aaritmitra625
@aaritmitra625 Ай бұрын
For those who don't know the shit with Doctor Light, he sexually assaulted the wife of Elongated Man as well as many other women. It got the point that some members in the League agreed for Zatanna to use her powers to alter his mind so that he wouldn't be a threat but they accidently lobotomized him instead. So yeah, pretty fucked up stuff
@Bakuganluver23
@Bakuganluver23 Ай бұрын
and then he got his memories back and became a serious threat again.
@detective___mcnulty
@detective___mcnulty Ай бұрын
Wtf? The writers got sick minds.
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned Ай бұрын
​@@detective___mcnulty _Identity Crisis_ sucked and basically only served to a) screw over Tim Drake and b) make character assassinate Zatanna, several other League members, *and* the male Dr. Light. This especially since after that story sexual assaulting people is basically *all* Dr. Light talked about and did until The Specter's overpowered yet useless and hypocritical self got around to killing Dr. Light by turning him into a living candle and having him melt...like a hundred+ rapes later.
@junniferluzeytonz
@junniferluzeytonz Ай бұрын
​@@detective___mcnulty and they are insensitive as hell for that too So lets cancel the writers that ruined the goat doctor light
@maxacorn
@maxacorn Ай бұрын
and then batman saw what they were doing and decided to mind wipe him as well. nasty shit considering zatanna and bruce have been close friends since he was a teen. and a lot of people felt this was why batman became as super paranoid as he was during the years leading up to infinite crisis.
@wyatt8315
@wyatt8315 Ай бұрын
This is not even a skit, it’s just Solid tearing into the comic book industry for four minutes
@jackambrose2762
@jackambrose2762 Ай бұрын
Word
@abrahammesrajecorrea2349
@abrahammesrajecorrea2349 Ай бұрын
Part of why I partially quitted comic books and rarely do I read them; and when I buy them, it's just one shots or limited series (usually old ones too). The kind of plot twists they have to rely on to print more comics can be ridiculous sometimes
@zoomy7535
@zoomy7535 Ай бұрын
@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349I stopped after death metal shit was too much 😂
@TMF979Resurge
@TMF979Resurge 25 күн бұрын
As he should
@TMF979Resurge
@TMF979Resurge 25 күн бұрын
​@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349I mean dude, just check out the Energon Universe, you'll get more out of Rob Kirkman and Dan Warren Johnson and Josh Williamson taking on Transformers and GI Joe than you'll get out of anything they're currently shitting out of Marvel or DC
@thundercharged1
@thundercharged1 Ай бұрын
Fun fact, the part about the writers making up Hal Jordan's reason for turning evil as they went along is 100% accurate to real life. Because Green Lantern sales were low, they basically shoved aside the previous plans and said "Okay, Hal's evil now, you have 4 issues to explain it, GO."
@metazoxan2
@metazoxan2 Ай бұрын
What was their reasoning?
@mistery8363
@mistery8363 Ай бұрын
@@metazoxan2 Hal's city explodes, green lantern head honchos say there was nothing to be done, Hal goes cuckoo for cocoa puffs and kills every goddamn lantern opposing him from "just talking to them", goes full evil also because of Parallax being imprisoned inside the master battery
@mehmetylmaz1831
@mehmetylmaz1831 Ай бұрын
​@@metazoxan2 his City got destroyed with all people in there, he try recreate all of them with his ring but his ring doesn't have enough power for this so he go rampage to take other green lanterns's rings by killing them, in he absorb power source of All lanterns but he also absorb an emotion monster who turn him more evil and he decided to restart to universe now
@gearoidoconnell5729
@gearoidoconnell5729 Ай бұрын
​@metazoxan2 I think DC Boss for out about Arisia and Hal has to go it was a coven up lol.😂.
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 29 күн бұрын
Honestly it could be adapted so well. You just have to adapt Hard Travlin' Heroes first, then _intentionally_ write "the conservative space cop becomes a genocidal fascist because of terrorism and an inability to let go of the past", which absolutely works.
@Crossbones6732
@Crossbones6732 Ай бұрын
God, Paul… the only character so despised we actively cheered for two kids being wiped from existence. “Uh, context?” “No.”
@gundamkaizer6947
@gundamkaizer6947 Ай бұрын
Wait what
@hulyaterzi8560
@hulyaterzi8560 Ай бұрын
​@@gundamkaizer6947Paul and MJ had two adopted children from the universe Paul came from and those children died when Spider-Man killed Paul's demon father thingie
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia Ай бұрын
@@gundamkaizer6947 Marvel decided to introduce a guy named Paul to cuckold Peter. He had two kids with Mary Jane, but they weren't real or something and wound up fading from existence. As if that wasn't bad enough, Peter got possessed by the Green Goblin and tried to kill Paul while going on a rant about how Mary Jane was his property or something, which just further made him look bad even if Mary Jane didn't really hold that against him in the end.
@noVva555
@noVva555 Ай бұрын
​@@TheAzulmagiaThe goblin thing was a Temporal thing..... THEN IT HAPPENED AGAIN... BUT WORSE
@bridgerhibbert2993
@bridgerhibbert2993 Ай бұрын
Oh I thought you were referring to the two kids from Gwoblin...
@BIGMIKE5858
@BIGMIKE5858 Ай бұрын
Spider man in Movies: sometimes suffers Spider man in comics: downward spiral downward spiral downward spiral downward spiral
@magdalenomartinezjr8805
@magdalenomartinezjr8805 Ай бұрын
To the point where 616 Pete decides to don Norman's mantle
@lordpi8140
@lordpi8140 Ай бұрын
i think peter parker has been on a downward spiral mentally and now he's lost it completely
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
Spider-Man needs a "Batman: The Brave And The Bold" type story to remind people you don't have to be gloomy all the time and still make something worthwhile out of it.
@notayoutubechannel.
@notayoutubechannel. Ай бұрын
Honestly after so many downward spirals I’m surprised it took him this long to snap
@colmecolwag
@colmecolwag Ай бұрын
I like to joke that MCU hating spiderman fans who always trashed on him being techy and having a billionaire friend help him out kinda influenced the comic book writers to he "oh, so the fans prefer it when hes struggling, right?"
@kevinirmiter3669
@kevinirmiter3669 Ай бұрын
"Don't I ever get to be happy?" "Are you associated with Peter Parker? Then the answer is no."
@marthancrowl1674
@marthancrowl1674 Ай бұрын
Weirdly enough, I think the only Spiderman character to get a happy ending is Venom.
@SpiderwolfHowling
@SpiderwolfHowling Ай бұрын
​@@marthancrowl1674 Nah, they're ruining that with the weird Venom World shit where Eddie apparently assumes like six different identities in a neverending cycle of grief and the Venom symbiote eats the entire Earth in a distant future or something, wholly disregarding all character development trying to beat the "Venom is still totally a bad guy!" horse that's kinda been dead since the 90s.
@marthancrowl1674
@marthancrowl1674 Ай бұрын
@@SpiderwolfHowling Damn. So basically the happiest ending any Spiderman character has ever gotten is the kid who died of cancer?
@scarlightprince
@scarlightprince 14 күн бұрын
@@marthancrowl1674 Or the one kid who basically got the hospital staff to make up a battle where he and Peter would face the Sinister 60... and then Pete took him for a swing around New York. So yeah, it's scuffed.
@skygard49
@skygard49 2 күн бұрын
This is why he and Deadpool are such great friends. It can't really get worse for Deadpool.
@looniemoonie5955
@looniemoonie5955 Ай бұрын
Marvel editors: we need Spider-Man to remain "RELATABLE"!!! So no wife or kids!! Spider-Man: one of the smartest people on Earth, scientist, extremely charismatic, strong, very good-looking, has a lot of connections, lives in one of the most expensive cities on Earth, had more girlfriends than I own socks etc etc Thank you Marvel, can relate, can totally relate
@WazzpinatorReviews-or1zb
@WazzpinatorReviews-or1zb Ай бұрын
If a spider man writer sees this, it will a go away one way or another.
@jvts8916
@jvts8916 Ай бұрын
Not to mention apparently being crucial enough for both The One Above All and Mephisto to directly intervene
@_Tzer
@_Tzer Ай бұрын
give spiderman kids and marriage and people can relate to those kids.
@CKER-cl8in
@CKER-cl8in Ай бұрын
I rather have fascinating, interesting and believeble characters than relatable ones.
@gearoidoconnell5729
@gearoidoconnell5729 Ай бұрын
I feel like it a lie and more mad that Sony has right for Spider-man movie.
@capitalism7189
@capitalism7189 Ай бұрын
For anyone wondering about Dr light let’s just in the comics say he and deathstroke/slade tend to like them young.
@antoinecyr2833
@antoinecyr2833 Ай бұрын
I’m sorry Deathstroke did WHAT!!??
@junniferluzeytonz
@junniferluzeytonz Ай бұрын
THEY MADE DEATHSTROKE A PEDOPHILE IN THE COMICS!??! 😭 Also what comic did Dr light and Deathstroke became a pedo in?
@Blue-jc2td
@Blue-jc2td Ай бұрын
@@junniferluzeytonz Deathstroke slept with Terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract it's in the animated movies too he's been a pedophile for a hot minute
@shadowstalker1857
@shadowstalker1857 Ай бұрын
​@antoinecyr2833 ok let me rephrase that for the rest of us from a scale of 1 to "bleach thine eyes", how bad and how horrible were the writers. Cause it's doctor bright how did he get written. (Started bleaching brain while inhaling copium)
@odinsrensen7460
@odinsrensen7460 Ай бұрын
What, she was old enough to have married Elongated Man, so either Ralph likes them young too or you're wrong - or we're talking about different things.
@ph-1012
@ph-1012 Ай бұрын
to clarify each of these: One more day (the obvious one which is fully explained in this) a notoriously bad spider man story Mary Jane dating a guy called Paul Hal Jordan becoming Parallax and does a genocide Kyle Rayner's girlfriend was infamously killed off in a really shitty way and her body was shoved in a fridge purely for "character development", it became a trope called fridging to do something similar Dr Light was made from a more generic villain into a full on serial rapist
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 Ай бұрын
Are comic writers okay? "Asking the uncomfortable questions society would rather forget" is a very different thing from "I have legitimate mental issues".
@zircunious
@zircunious Ай бұрын
and most importantly Dr. Light was made into a generic Teen titans villain after Zatanna and some of the other leaguers wiped his memory of it as well as batman's memory was wiped of it as well. Which of course batman was pissed. So that's why Dr. Light was clueless about what he did.
@TheVincenzoGaming
@TheVincenzoGaming Ай бұрын
@@benjaminoechsli1941 honestly, this is why we need to bring back asylums
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
@@TheVincenzoGaming You mean the Alsume?
@gitgud2523
@gitgud2523 Ай бұрын
@@leithaziz2716is he stupid
@lukerabon7925
@lukerabon7925 Ай бұрын
God the Green Lantern bits. They really did just say "Fuck Hal, give all his shit to Kyle. And you know what? Fuck Kyle too"
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia Ай бұрын
I wonder if Jon has to put up with this much BS.
@thewalrus45
@thewalrus45 Ай бұрын
@@TheAzulmagia John got crippled and benched around that time. mandate for years was "KYLE IS THE ONE TRUE ONLY GREEN LANTERN" (Alan got to be exempt since technically his ring is slightly different).
@alexanderkosten7611
@alexanderkosten7611 Ай бұрын
​@@thewalrus45Even as someone who likes Kyle and dislikes Hal, I agree that the editorial mandates that led to that state of affairs were idiotic. It probably didn't help that while Hal's initial descent into madness was actually comprehensible and decently written (from what I recall), what followed with Parallax, "Extant", Zero Hour, and everything else was... less so. I only disagree with the common consensus of "Hal was character assasinated" because I question if he even had much of a characterization TO assassinate, being arguably the most bland character in his own series before the destruction of Coast City. Still, bringing Hal back (and the subsequent vast expansion of the Lantern mythos to the point of arguably becoming more interesting than the rest of the DC universe combined) was a good decision... that unfortunately opened the floodgates for the substantially less well-executed return of Barry Allen, a character who then became infamous for constant retellings of Flashpoint and stealing plots and relevance from Wally West - because he simply had nothing else to work with from his own era. But Dan DiDio had to satisfy his loathing of sidekicks and "aging the characters"! Funny how that line of "logic" ties into basically all the most poorly-recieved comic developments of the current millennium to date.
@trickster80
@trickster80 27 күн бұрын
@@TheAzulmagia John also did a genocide im pretty sure, and he was so guilty about it he tried to kill himself
@ajtallent4501
@ajtallent4501 3 күн бұрын
@@thewalrus45don’t worry, DC kinda forgets Alan even exists sometimes even though he was literally the first green lantern
@TheMrMister
@TheMrMister Ай бұрын
Guidelines for writing Spider-Man: 1. Suffering builds character 2. Suffering builds character 3. Suffering builds character 4. Suffering builds character 5. Suffering builds character 6. Suffering builds character 7. Suffering builds character 8. Suffering builds character 9. Suffering builds character 10. Suffering builds character …
@ms.antithesis
@ms.antithesis 7 күн бұрын
11. Reset character but dont make them happier just make the suffering worth nothign
@KarazolaX
@KarazolaX 3 күн бұрын
Just get Peter together with Black Cat and be done with it, MJ treated him so badly and unfairly, if he went back to her he'd have no backbone.
@SomeGuyOnThisPlatform
@SomeGuyOnThisPlatform Ай бұрын
Marvel hates Spider-Man so much they made a clone of him just to torture said clone even more then the main guy.
@WarriorXena446
@WarriorXena446 Ай бұрын
Pretty much and then let’s have Peter think he’s a clone for like years only to discover when the real clone dies that he was tricked.
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
Ben Riley deserved better. They even turned him into a bad guy later on.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz Ай бұрын
Yeah and whatever happened to Kaine?
@mr.goblin6039
@mr.goblin6039 Ай бұрын
They made TWO clones of him, and they torture BOTH of them.
@hsemicolonc413
@hsemicolonc413 Ай бұрын
​@@huntertezzGot a pretty charming run after he moved to Houston & then vanished off the face of the Earth. Again.
@justinn8541
@justinn8541 Ай бұрын
Spider-Man can never catch a break because suffering is a cannon event.
@SalamanderCommander1805
@SalamanderCommander1805 Ай бұрын
Suffering is the only event
@guacamoleman3253
@guacamoleman3253 Ай бұрын
"you getting mugged is canon event peter"
@godzillabebravethetrexretu1381
@godzillabebravethetrexretu1381 Ай бұрын
Everyone suffers even superheroes
@ChibiM11
@ChibiM11 Ай бұрын
Oh, that Parker luck
@captainsealed
@captainsealed Ай бұрын
I don't think Marvel has used an actual cannon to torture Peter, yet. Yet.
@NoName-hg6cc
@NoName-hg6cc Ай бұрын
"Okay, who's next? JASON! My favourite Robin! Let's see what's in for you next...."
@Nah_Id_Win487
@Nah_Id_Win487 Ай бұрын
Jason? Who the hell is- *oh no*
@scarlightprince
@scarlightprince 14 күн бұрын
​@@Nah_Id_Win487 "Anyways, send the next kid in. Well, if it ain't the brainy kid with a lot of heart, Tim Drake!" "Hey chief, so... do I get something?" "A male love interest after... yeah. I mean, you were top dog since the other Robins weren't available. And bad things happening. And the love interest scandal is the same go-to material for comic slander aside from 'I Am Not Starfire', or 'The New Warriors'." "Is there any sense of a silver lining-" "You're bailed out by a webtoon who somehow pulls off the male love interest better than DC and-" (Door slamming, followed by Tim just losing it.) In all seriousness, 'Batman: Wayne Family Adventures' is a good read.
@Dragonaut72
@Dragonaut72 6 күн бұрын
Jason: all this card says on it is "crowbar"
@scarlightprince
@scarlightprince 6 күн бұрын
@@Dragonaut72 Damian: All this note has is "Arkham".
@Comperative-e8b
@Comperative-e8b 2 күн бұрын
​@@scarlightprinceInjustice.
@donbasuradenuevo
@donbasuradenuevo Ай бұрын
Western comics in a nutshell. Reuse, recycle, repeat, retcon the same characters over and over and over again. Then multiverses and time travel.
@mttylerdurden9
@mttylerdurden9 Ай бұрын
"Marvel and DC in a nutshell" there i fixed it for you
@Gabe600
@Gabe600 Ай бұрын
​@@mttylerdurden9that's much better
@leviticusprime4904
@leviticusprime4904 Ай бұрын
And people wonder why manga and webcomics are selling better?
@leviticusprime4904
@leviticusprime4904 Ай бұрын
@@Gabe600The Invincible comic is better than any modern dc or marvel comics from the last few years.
@piotrd7355
@piotrd7355 Ай бұрын
@@leviticusprime4904 The Invicible is 20 years old, twenty years ago DC published, for example, "Lucifer", a much better comic book.
@dazzlethestar151
@dazzlethestar151 Ай бұрын
"All it says on it is refrigerator." Oh god KYLE NO-
@xenogorwraithblade2538
@xenogorwraithblade2538 Ай бұрын
I died laughing when he said that.
@zacglover3345
@zacglover3345 Ай бұрын
They better pay for his therapy
@KingZolomon
@KingZolomon Ай бұрын
What does it mean I’m not comic savvy
@dazzlethestar151
@dazzlethestar151 Ай бұрын
@@KingZolomon Kyle's girlfriend was killed and her body was stuffed into a fridge...
@liamerolduffy7738
@liamerolduffy7738 Ай бұрын
@@dazzlethestar151Despite all the gay characters being resurrected, she hasn’t been brought back.
@paytonjones432
@paytonjones432 Ай бұрын
"You're going to be rich" "Do I draw a pentagram on the wall or do you have a number I can call."😂😂😂
@ronaldshelby
@ronaldshelby Ай бұрын
The funny thing is that for 3/5 of that year "Peter" does not even get to use any of it. Also a good chunk gets taken due to a lawsuit. Spiderman stays losing
@bubbles784
@bubbles784 Ай бұрын
@@ronaldshelby It also reminds me of that time Peter was called out for plagiarising Doc Ock in order to get his doctorate. And this was due to Doc Ock being (I'm pretty sure the word is ) insulted that Peter never got a doctorate because while in Peter's body, nobody called him Dr. Parker. (Could be misremembering some details.)
@LocalSlasher
@LocalSlasher Ай бұрын
​@@bubbles784The word is 'insinuated'
@d_3634
@d_3634 Ай бұрын
​@@LocalSlasher No the word is insulted. Otta was a doctor, so the idea that he isn't referred to as such anymore bothered him and he found it insulting that someone of his intelligence got get the disrespect of being referred to as just Mr.
@LocalSlasher
@LocalSlasher Ай бұрын
@@d_3634 Oops. Misread
@LGDVisuals
@LGDVisuals Ай бұрын
3:00 so for those asking Doctor Light is A Serial Rap**t. A victim of his was elongated man’s wife. He admitted to having more victims. This was all revealed in the short series “Identity Crisis” released in 2004. His memory was reset /altered by zatanna
@Ultimatum0000
@Ultimatum0000 Ай бұрын
My all-time favorite DC story
@kharijordan6426
@kharijordan6426 Ай бұрын
He was on the cartoon show.... understand why he got tentacled by Raven now tho.
@thunderchief7256
@thunderchief7256 Ай бұрын
@@Ultimatum0000 Because it showed a p3d0 getting exposed, right?
@tonywilliams6294
@tonywilliams6294 27 күн бұрын
Don't forget, when Elongated Man tried to demand retribution, the *Justice League* mindwiped him and his wife.
@Comperative-e8b
@Comperative-e8b 2 күн бұрын
​@@Ultimatum0000So you like shit?Your name should be ultimatum shit.
@vullord666
@vullord666 Ай бұрын
1:18 I love this because originally writers killed Gwen off for being the boring "just Peter's girlfriend" and everyone loved MJ because of how she felt like her own character and refreshing. Cut to today and Gwen has had SO many glowups and unique story beats (literally across dimensions). Gwen has found so much success in so many unique iterations. Meanwhile MJ has become nothing more than Marvel Editorial plot device to keep Peter at the same status quo. She and Peter are lucky to get else world story where the focus is on their daughter. Gwen ironically dodged a bullet dying. At least we have the new ultimate universe.
@DarsiPadilla
@DarsiPadilla Ай бұрын
What the fuck?
@Kshandamion
@Kshandamion Ай бұрын
Irony is, Gwen was originally intended to be the iconic girlfriend, but even Stan Lee admitted MJ was more interesting, Gwen dying was considered a big deal at the time because it not only stuck, but it also *developed* Peter's character to accept it, (what writers since fail to get so fridging women is just for shock value and maybe making way for a new love interest,)... ...But then Gwen was *only* known for being the dead girlfriend for so long that her actual character was forgotten until Emma Stone's portrayal and the AU version in the comics made her relevant and more interesting than ever. Now Gwen is the new MJ and the only thing the comic book writers do with (616) MJ is play keep away from Peter because they have no other ideas than that and making him miserable.
@DarsiPadilla
@DarsiPadilla Ай бұрын
@@Kshandamion I hope the editors who make Peter Parker miserable and his stories face their comeuppance.
@JaviBovi
@JaviBovi Ай бұрын
the ultimate universe is like 20 years old now 😅 20 years before the ultimate universe being released was when spiderman put on the black suit for the first time ever
@ggt47
@ggt47 Ай бұрын
Always hated that term *glowup*. .
@Hatster985
@Hatster985 Ай бұрын
the fact that One More Day is still cannon makes me angry.
@Claude203
@Claude203 Ай бұрын
I'm still hoping it gets retconned.
@victoramaral3453
@victoramaral3453 Ай бұрын
Well the good thing that gwen and Norman thing got a retcon
@mttylerdurden9
@mttylerdurden9 Ай бұрын
​@@Claude203Nick Spencer tried. But the higher ups wouldn't let him
@capitannerevar7792
@capitannerevar7792 Ай бұрын
CANON NOT CANNON WHY THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE DO THIS
@vincereterram8150
@vincereterram8150 Ай бұрын
​@@capitannerevar7792Cannon
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows Ай бұрын
They did kind of retcon Hal Jordan. Instead of him going insane from the grief and trauma of seeing his home city destroyed, they made it so that he was also possessed by a magical yellow psychic parasite who was the embodiment of the concept of fear in the entire universe.
@eyeaid9817
@eyeaid9817 Ай бұрын
Thank you, I thought that was gonna be the punchline, like "a bug made you do it".
@BrianFlyingPenguin
@BrianFlyingPenguin Ай бұрын
Should just have blamed Lord Malvolio.
@wr5488
@wr5488 Ай бұрын
I think it’s been rereretconned to Hal overpowering Parallax with his will (as in Parallax was never fully in charge) but Hal mentally wasn’t the same. We see Parallax Hal from Zero Hour a few more times and he never seems Parallax-y. Always fully in control (despite being insane). He even hints that he’s well aware of Parallax in him. He was in Green Arrow recently but I haven’t read that, last I saw him he was in the main universe (along with current Hal! There’s two Hals) hunting down Sinestro Corps members… who I think are more anti-heroes at this point so idk
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 Ай бұрын
@@wr5488what?? How does that even work? What's the point of paralax possessing Hal if he's still presumably responsible for his actions?
@Alderan3344
@Alderan3344 Ай бұрын
​@@wr5488wait wtf. how is there 2 hals?
@alviabtahi5440
@alviabtahi5440 Ай бұрын
If Dr.Light got it this bad, I can't wait for a Deathstroke segment
@F1Krazy
@F1Krazy Ай бұрын
I never thought that just the word "refrigerator" would leave me howling like a lunatic but here we are
@fallenangelcrimson
@fallenangelcrimson Ай бұрын
“i got the devil in me it’s a cloud it’s sadness it’s a cloud” -porno for pyros
@youtubestudiosucks978
@youtubestudiosucks978 Ай бұрын
But is it fire?
@fallenangelcrimson
@fallenangelcrimson Ай бұрын
@@youtubestudiosucks978 “then i find compassion and i find it vanishes these thoughts i have they seem to pass me by like a cloud”
@Coco-hq6ns
@Coco-hq6ns Ай бұрын
*kazotsy kick*
@theliveing
@theliveing Ай бұрын
What?
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool Ай бұрын
Real reason they gave miles and gwen some will they won't they scenes in the spider verse movies. So they can sneak in peter actually being happy and marrying jane while nobody is paying attention
@aidangordon2713
@aidangordon2713 Ай бұрын
For all of Sony's many, *many* sins, at least they seem to want Peter and MJ to be happy. Shit, there may even be a playable wedding in Spidey 3 at this rate!
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 Ай бұрын
@@aidangordon2713 Peter is still white. Don't count on him being happy in Insomniac's dogshit game.
@jotarokujo6440
@jotarokujo6440 Ай бұрын
What
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 Ай бұрын
​@@aidangordon2713 Peter is still white. So don't expect Insomniac to give him a happy ending after "I just saved the city from all these dangerous people, now I'm going to selfishly retire and be a simp to Mary Sue Watson."
@arcythecube
@arcythecube Ай бұрын
"will they won't they" what
@radicalpasta7040
@radicalpasta7040 Ай бұрын
Kyle getting "refrigerator" made me cackle like a maniac. This video is so funny for comic nerds who get the references.
@Skeletons_Riding_Ostriches
@Skeletons_Riding_Ostriches Ай бұрын
You should do a skit on the glorious Lord Death Man. He's a Batman villain who wears a halloween skeleton suit and mask and he's really good at faking his death. There's a panel of him where Batman tries to wrestle a gun away from him and it looks amazingly silly. Also he canonically knows the name of every single Pokémon.
@The25thY0RU
@The25thY0RU Ай бұрын
Yeah that doctor light part really backfired for the writers because since that "incident" no other writers wanted to touch the character without a six inch stick. They may as well killed him off after the "incident."
@leviticusprime4904
@leviticusprime4904 Ай бұрын
Why do comic writes do this? Is it purely for shock value, or some weried barley disguised fetish.
@sinistralhydra
@sinistralhydra Ай бұрын
That's why they had to replace him with a new character.
@mediatorraptor3349
@mediatorraptor3349 Ай бұрын
That kinda happen with Hank Pym after the slap scene. The writers dont want use him that much.
@randomvids1231000
@randomvids1231000 Ай бұрын
​@leviticusprime4904 While this is just my take and opinion on, I think this is why they did what they did with his character. The writers who were putting him into the comic thought they could add some form of realism into this already villainous character. If someone had the same powers as Dr. Light, and they were willing to push the bounderies of what they could get away with, this would probably have been the result. What backfired, however, was that they did not expect the sort of backlash they would receive by writing him in this sort of light (pun unintentional). So now they are afraid to bring him back because of the backlash that was received, when they could try to retcon some bullshit and remove that certain trait.
@Bakuganluver23
@Bakuganluver23 12 күн бұрын
@@randomvids1231000 hasn't Light been used in the newer comics? he's essentially a light ghost, with Kimiyo Hoshi being the heroic version.
@hagos9939
@hagos9939 Ай бұрын
“Your not the first to start asking questions” as he pulls out a picture of Gwen is depressing bro Spider-Man Blue really hammers home how sad that death was for Peter.
@AwesomeGamer-om4hm
@AwesomeGamer-om4hm Ай бұрын
Honestly, I can imagine a future part having SV Miles challenging the editorial as he's the Spider-Man who's practically against canon events and also helped another Peter mend his relationship with MJ. Bonus points if his appearance directly contrasts the usual "60s superhero cartoons" style to reference how Spiderverse movies mix the artstyles as well as his status of being an anomaly.
@Quackervoltz
@Quackervoltz 7 күн бұрын
That would actually slap
@369destroyer
@369destroyer Ай бұрын
For a part 3, Cyclops deserves a spotlight. It doesnt matter which story he has had his character assassinated in so many ways.
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
Weirdly enough, there was a time where the writers intentionally tried to character assassinate Cyclops by making him the bad guy. But the ludicrous ways they tried to end the comic led to him seeming reasonable and general audiences siding with Cyclops, leading to the "Cyclops was right" meme to be a thing for a bit.
@369destroyer
@369destroyer Ай бұрын
@@leithaziz2716 Now I am imagining him bragging about that XD "I FINALLY GOT A WIN!"
@Gabe600
@Gabe600 Ай бұрын
​@@leithaziz2716it was his revolutionary phase afther Avengers vs X-Men, to this days many X-Men fans think that was his best phase
@Kshandamion
@Kshandamion Ай бұрын
All Claremont wanted for poor Scott was to just move on from Jean's death, marry a woman who only *coincidentally* looked like Jean, (even clocked him for questioning said coincidence as Claremont's statement of such an idea,) start a family in Alaska and be a reserve member if need be. But nooooo, couldn't leave well enough alone, hence establishing how utterly and needlessly messy Cyclops's love life and Madelyn Pryor's entire existence is for decades to come. Even "'97" was like, "Nope, we're not gonna repeat *those* mistakes."
@superstarultra28
@superstarultra28 24 күн бұрын
He should mention the issue where Scott killed Professor X.
@bluegatito8684
@bluegatito8684 Ай бұрын
''Who's Paul?'' ''We still don't know'' Accurate as hell.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Ай бұрын
He’s gonna be the new shou tucker, just some random guy who did a really fucked up thing and now everyone is gonna remember him
@HoV326
@HoV326 Ай бұрын
Made me think of that one Scooby-Doo skit where Fred is like, "Who's Paul?!"
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 Ай бұрын
Paul Atreides?
@matthewallen2273
@matthewallen2273 Ай бұрын
No one wants to talk about Paul.
@AK-qh6lr
@AK-qh6lr Ай бұрын
My head canon is that it's Mephisto just wanting to continually fuck with Peter
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm Ай бұрын
You just described all the reasons my friend hates “One More Day” 😂
@gtdc4685
@gtdc4685 Ай бұрын
Why everyone hates One More Day
@dziewiaty
@dziewiaty Ай бұрын
What a shit story that could be easily fixed by making MJ take the bullet instead.
@SearedBooks
@SearedBooks Ай бұрын
​@@gtdc4685 Because for some reason Peter is willing to give up his marriage and unborn child for his 170 year old aunt.
@magdalenomartinezjr8805
@magdalenomartinezjr8805 Ай бұрын
Out of all the people that could've helped him, he chose the devil
@dziewiaty
@dziewiaty Ай бұрын
@@magdalenomartinezjr8805 I mean he did ask everyone he could and got no help, which is even worse because Dr Doom would help Aunt May and make her immortal just to spite Mephisto.
@goldencascade5710
@goldencascade5710 Ай бұрын
As soon as Dr. Light appeared I already knew even more chaos would spew. Surprised the agent didn't call Zatanna in to fix things.
@jayjay86443
@jayjay86443 9 күн бұрын
Zatanna already did enough, Dr Light doesn't remember what he did, and is simply befuddled why Comic Editor hates him so much right now.
@ML1399TheyStoleMyName
@ML1399TheyStoleMyName Ай бұрын
"WHO'S PAUL!?" "We still don't know"
@joshuaolsoncook
@joshuaolsoncook Ай бұрын
Dr. Light: I haven’t done anything yet. Squidward: But you will. YOU WILLLLLLLL!
@themidnight8132
@themidnight8132 Ай бұрын
Funny considering they share the same actor.😂
@joshuaolsoncook
@joshuaolsoncook Ай бұрын
@@themidnight8132 He’s also Professor Membrane (Invader Zim). 😹 “I know BETTER now…”
@MultiBoxingKid
@MultiBoxingKid Ай бұрын
If I understand the story, he already did it. The League just messed with him and made him a joke until he remembers again.
@lightspaceman5064
@lightspaceman5064 Ай бұрын
I’m a real sucker for treating characters like actors reacting to their stories. It’s always gold.
@iveyyewitt1621
@iveyyewitt1621 Ай бұрын
I can't believe that I used to think that the Clone Saga was the worst thing writers could inflict on Pete & MJ.
@Kshandamion
@Kshandamion Ай бұрын
Even then at least that was during the era of "special covers" and the writers admitting they were forced to drag the story on longer than it should. Modern writers have no excuse.
@chrispilcher2024
@chrispilcher2024 29 күн бұрын
at least we got Ben Reilly out of it, so there's a silver lining,
@mhelm0225
@mhelm0225 Ай бұрын
The fact that MJ is in wedding attire and Peter isn't makes me assume he got married in his Spider-Man suit.
@kotacarter3386
@kotacarter3386 Ай бұрын
“Come on man, I’m Dr. Light……..I do light man!”
@thespanishinquisition4078
@thespanishinquisition4078 Ай бұрын
*meanwhile, identity crisis and the comics written after it*
@TotalTech2.
@TotalTech2. Ай бұрын
What did Dr. Light do that was so bad. Kill someone?
@AmericanBrit9834
@AmericanBrit9834 Ай бұрын
@@TotalTech2. It rhymes with grape.
@randomdeinternet3582
@randomdeinternet3582 Ай бұрын
​@@TotalTech2. He gRaped a minor, the wife of elongated man and it seems that a lot of other women too, and i'm not sure if this is right but it seems he slept with many woman cosplaying the female teammates of the teen titans, and if it was when they were actual teenagers......well, no wonder they literally lobotomized him so he would stop
@TotalTech2.
@TotalTech2. Ай бұрын
@@AmericanBrit9834 oh. *OH*
@hugzar9797
@hugzar9797 Ай бұрын
PAUUUL, NOT YOU AGAIN
@WL-bs4nc
@WL-bs4nc Ай бұрын
“DAMN YOU, PAUUUUUUL!!”
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
DINKLEBEEEEEEEERG!! ...Oh wait.
@lifegame9542
@lifegame9542 Ай бұрын
"PAUL!!! WHEN I CATCH YOU PAUL!!!!!!"
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 Ай бұрын
Does this guy even have a last name??
@mikemorro140
@mikemorro140 Ай бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 yeah it's part of a later story, he's the son of a villain from the the late 2000s named Rabin.
@GoldenBoyBlue
@GoldenBoyBlue Ай бұрын
Spectre: "Say, Light. I heard you like 'em young."
@davemustang8173
@davemustang8173 Ай бұрын
"And then Paul..." There is so much anger tied to that name, you have no idea
@coreylineberry8557
@coreylineberry8557 Ай бұрын
That's a reasonable reaction to what Dr. Light did. It's... Genuinely revolting.
@Aesir_Odin
@Aesir_Odin Ай бұрын
What did he do?
@maruwatchesyou8281
@maruwatchesyou8281 Ай бұрын
Which is?
@trinity_frost
@trinity_frost Ай бұрын
As someone who has no idea who dr light is, what did he do?
@ComicalCatastrophe
@ComicalCatastrophe Ай бұрын
What did he do please tell
@coreylineberry8557
@coreylineberry8557 Ай бұрын
OK. Going to go ahead and put a trigger warning here: In the event Identity Crisis, Dr. Light is revealed to have raped the wife of the Elongated Man, Sue Dibny. He was then essentially given a magical lobotomy by the Justice League.
@matthewwasson2906
@matthewwasson2906 Ай бұрын
"OH MY GOD!" "Yeah he wasn't much help" Super funny line 😂😂😂
@antonhanna2423
@antonhanna2423 Ай бұрын
If anybody needs *even further* context, the Marvel Comics version of God literally told him that if he made Peter's life easier, even if by a smidgen (can't believe I actually used that word), every single person that Peter has ever saved/potentially will save, is going to die for the sake of balancing the universe. Keep in mind, this is the same mainstream universe where half the time you don't even need to sacrifice anything to bring somebody back from the dead (unless you count dignity & integrity, in which case that shit's selling like hot cakes).
@liamerolduffy7738
@liamerolduffy7738 Ай бұрын
@@antonhanna2423It should just be revealed that Marvel’s god is just a lying lazy sack of shit (and a representation of marvel editors and edgy talentless writers) who causes trouble so he absorbs energy or power or whatever from the heroes. Then it leads to an event where the bastard gets killed off for real and marvel is taken over by actual good writers and no more editors.
@CalvinLee606
@CalvinLee606 Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@antonhanna2423 Why would one person’s happiness throw the universe so out of whack that you have to kill thousands? Surely the Marvel Universe isn’t that fragile right? So this implies that God himself goes out of his way to make Peter miserable. Even ignoring all the obvious theological implications there, that makes no sense. You’re literally God! You MAKE the rules! Why not balance the universe yourself? And why does peter matter this much? He’s just one guy. The more I think about this, the worse it gets. What were the writers thinking?
@antonhanna2423
@antonhanna2423 Ай бұрын
@@CalvinLee606 To answer your last question, I have to ask myself the same question whenever Marvel does that thing where the only way *any* of their characters can get a new comic (yes, even the popular ones), is if they have a movie/tv series that they're a character in. Otherwise, they're stuck in comic book purgatory.
@UnrealMisterD
@UnrealMisterD Ай бұрын
@@CalvinLee606 So, according to the time the Fantastic Four literally met The One-Above-All (Marvels big G God), he is literally Jack Kirby. Take from that what you will.
@legogoka-boomstudio1838
@legogoka-boomstudio1838 Ай бұрын
3:08 now that I think about it that’s probably why the character was never used/mentioned again and replaced with a new doctor light
@GermanFFreddy
@GermanFFreddy Ай бұрын
For those who dont know, Kyle's green lantern, the reason he had a card with "refrigerator" on it was because one time he got home and found his girlfriend chopped up and stuffed in the fridge in his apartment. And in the DC Skribblenauts game, if you place a fridge next to him, he will run away in fear, AND if you put Joker next to Red Hood (Jason), instead of using his typicql joker toxin, he will pull out a crowbar.
@d1fferen7
@d1fferen7 Ай бұрын
"The first time wasn't real." From now on, I'll use that as an excuse. Thank you.
@zachbyrd5968
@zachbyrd5968 Ай бұрын
The moral of the story here is DON'T google Dr. Lights crimes.
@UJEvans
@UJEvans Ай бұрын
....too late.... But also he became a member of the Justice League??
@thundercharged1
@thundercharged1 Ай бұрын
​@@UJEvans Different person. That was an alternate good female version of Dr. Light who was originally from another universe. No, really.
@UJEvans
@UJEvans Ай бұрын
@@thundercharged1 oh. Okay. I just saw online that New 52 put Dr Light on JLA
@matthewallen2273
@matthewallen2273 Ай бұрын
What the hell did he do????
@pedrorosa9893
@pedrorosa9893 Ай бұрын
@@matthewallen2273rape
@ffjj3964
@ffjj3964 Ай бұрын
Spider-Man: “One More Day” Green Lantern: “Emerald Twilight” Doctor Light: “Identity Crisis” God I love/hate comics.
@OckhamAsylum
@OckhamAsylum Ай бұрын
I still don't know why Dr light had to become a serial rapist. Just like 0 to 100 in a second flat. Funny little "haha, I shoot laser beams and rob banks!" man to full on "The Hills Have Eyes."
@Nah_Id_Win487
@Nah_Id_Win487 Ай бұрын
Imagine a kid watching Teen Titans Go, wondering who the funny light man is, googling him and just finding R A P I S T
@captaincritter6173
@captaincritter6173 Ай бұрын
Poor Spider-Man his true enemy is not even the villains he face. It’s (possibly) the writers, editors hell even Kevin Feige himself. (I mean the 616 version, not the other ones, they have their own problems 😂)
@mttylerdurden9
@mttylerdurden9 Ай бұрын
No it's the editors.
@creativerealms
@creativerealms Ай бұрын
I don't blame the writers I blame the ones telling the writers what to do. Something tells me if the writers had their way he would still be married.
@mttylerdurden9
@mttylerdurden9 Ай бұрын
@@creativerealms J Michael Stacynzki (writer for Spider-Man at the time) really liked writing them as a married couple. When he was told by Joe Quesada (editor in chief of marvel at the time) that they were getting rid of the marriage, he was annoyed. Nick Spencer was planning on retconing One more day, until the higher ups vetoed that plan.
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache Ай бұрын
616 is the comic universe 199999 is the MCU
@captaincritter6173
@captaincritter6173 Ай бұрын
Huh very interesting, well regardless they’re all to blame here. To be fair of what I’ve heard and read so far about Zeb Wells he could’ve done a little bit better, especially how Peter is currently behaving and treated. But it is what it is.
@jonjonvids
@jonjonvids Ай бұрын
Why has no one realized the best comic runs are when the characters' lives move on?
@antoinecyr2833
@antoinecyr2833 Ай бұрын
Because moooooooonnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy. That is sadly the only reason why we can’t have permanent happy ending. And eventually the greed will destroy the characters bit by bit due to dumb narrative decision in hope of prolongating more and more the character story.
@Vegas242
@Vegas242 Ай бұрын
Because change scary
@mttylerdurden9
@mttylerdurden9 Ай бұрын
Because a lot of fans might like it, but then a lot of fans will throw a fit
@Shadriand
@Shadriand Ай бұрын
Well, because it isn't. Comics simply wouldn't be interesting if it everything were happy-go-lucky. In most universes, Spider-Man is living happily but they don't make for great stories if it were just "Spider-man beats the rhino for the three thousandth time!".
@jarrettadams4102
@jarrettadams4102 Ай бұрын
Why do you think people read Manga? Because it eventually ends. Hero beats the bad guy, marries his girlfriend he's had nothing but hostile chemistry with, and trains a successor. Unless it's Berserk. Manga Spider-Man would never get over Gwen's death, stop being Peter Parker, watch MJ and Harry's wedding from a safe distance, brutally defeat and befriend the Sinister Six, permanently bond with the Symbiote, and die fighting Goblin in the collapsing ruins of the Empire State Building.
@BrodieVickers-tk9sd
@BrodieVickers-tk9sd Ай бұрын
Next time on Superhero Editorial Room... *_Peter_* : "I POISON MY WIFE WITH MY WHAT!!??"
@ImpossibleCakePro
@ImpossibleCakePro Ай бұрын
I know jack and shit about comics but as soon as he said "refrigerator" I knew exactly what it was talking about.
@ggkk8909
@ggkk8909 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Spider-man and Green Lantern end up becoming friends because of how often they get screwed over by the writers.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Ай бұрын
At least they get written, wtf has happened to dick
@davida7808
@davida7808 Ай бұрын
They did
@phoenyxtaylor5750
@phoenyxtaylor5750 Ай бұрын
"Peter, I thought you didn't smoke?" "You should see the lineup they've got me going through, Hal. It can't get worse than this." "It might seem crazy what I'm bout to say."
@hansoharrigen6958
@hansoharrigen6958 Ай бұрын
I actually want to see a video about this now
@hansoharrigen6958
@hansoharrigen6958 Ай бұрын
Althought to be fair, Kyle gets screwed up by writters more than Hal. Like, Spiderman Levels of screwed up
@j.r.milton1273
@j.r.milton1273 Ай бұрын
You should do a superhero editorial room for all the Robin's. There's so much stuff to unpack there. Dick getting r***d and the whole "Ric" thing. Jason literally being murdered. Tim constantly getting sidelined by writers. Damien just being Damien.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz Ай бұрын
Damian, murdered 5 times, forced to watch Alfred die.
@wr5488
@wr5488 Ай бұрын
Woah 5 times? What are they all? I just know Batman Inc. arc death.
@KnightofChaosDeck
@KnightofChaosDeck Ай бұрын
What is with comic books and rape? There's more rape here than in Arthurian Myth!
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
I blame Frank Miller going insane during the DKR run for what happened with Dick. Tim Drake I don't feel anyone really knows what to do with. Which isn't helped by the fact there are FOUR DIFFERENT ROBINS. And that doesn't include Batman's temporary sidekicks like Cassandra Caine or Spoiler. Batman's one of my favorite fictional heroes ever, but he also suffers from bloat due to writers.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz Ай бұрын
@@wr5488 Killed by Heretic, killed trying to stop the villain in solo series, killed himself in Teen Titans to help a teammate, heart ripped by Flatline, neck snapped by Connor Hawk. Last two are in second solo series.
@jhs2110
@jhs2110 Ай бұрын
The “refrigerator” bit had me laughing audibly. I lost it when he mentioned Dr light
@radspencer8187
@radspencer8187 Ай бұрын
You will never be forgiven Quesada... Ever.
@raphsere
@raphsere Ай бұрын
The plot of One More Day is that Aunt May dies, and Spidey is so sad that he tries to go back in time to save her. When that fails Mephisto, who's like an actual demon from Hell, appears to him and says he will bring Aunt May back, and all in exchange for some reason breaking up his marriage with Mary Jane, so their daughter would never exist and never become the superhero Spidergirl who would have been Mephisto's arch-nemesis in the future. This sounds insane, but that's pretty much what happens.
@369destroyer
@369destroyer Ай бұрын
....Now I want to see a comic where Mayday Parker goes to hell to beat up Mephisto XD
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
He pretty much "sells his soul to the devil"
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets Ай бұрын
If only he said even Reed Richards couldn't save his aunt while trying to persuade Dr. Doom. The guy would've fought Mephisto and given her eternal youth while he was at it.
@YouthRightsRadical
@YouthRightsRadical Ай бұрын
Peter also goes to Doctor Strange, who teleports him to every major genius and other likely candidate to ask for help saving Aunt May. As it turns out, the combined efforts of Reed Richards, Doctor Strange, Elixir, and Anti-Venom among others are not up to the task of fixing a bullet wound. Then God shows up to talk to Peter and refuses to help before telling him to get his lazy ass back to work being Spider-Man. Then he makes his deal with Mephisto.
@AznOmega
@AznOmega Ай бұрын
​@@YouthRightsRadicalyeah, a bullet wound. Not a magical one, but one that most of the Marvel doctors can fix in their sleep. There was a fic that does have Doctor Doom find out and decide to help Spidey to show his superiority towards Mephisto and Reed Richards, but again, canonically Spider-Man sells his marriage to save Aunt May (who is okay with being dead) from a non-magical bullet wound that none of the doctors can fix.
@grimshock6983
@grimshock6983 Ай бұрын
Spider-Man’s second greatest enemy. PAUL, he isn’t evil, so he can’t fight him.
@commercialairliner
@commercialairliner Ай бұрын
Who's #1? Venom? Green Goblin? The writers?
@grimshock6983
@grimshock6983 Ай бұрын
@@commercialairliner It’s work life balance
@mttylerdurden9
@mttylerdurden9 Ай бұрын
​@@commercialairlinereditorial mandate
@deathbunny32
@deathbunny32 Ай бұрын
@@commercialairliner That would be Skip
@hango8991
@hango8991 Ай бұрын
The writer
@mckenziemcquarry9209
@mckenziemcquarry9209 Ай бұрын
I don’t really read comic books but it’s funny through cultural osmosis of the internet I saw Doctor Light and a voice in my head was immediately “Yeah you know what he did.”
@randominternetweirdo5479
@randominternetweirdo5479 Ай бұрын
Nearly 17 years ago Peter Parker's marriage was annulled. 2027 will end without restoring the marriage, making this damage last longer than the marriage did.
@wolf_7129
@wolf_7129 Ай бұрын
I love how in the first part the editor is shocked for the heroes are gonna go through/their actions and now he's like "Oh yeah you're not getting a happily ever after. Sorry champ."
@phoenyxtaylor5750
@phoenyxtaylor5750 Ай бұрын
He's entered his third week he's starting to get desensitized
@mr.l8723
@mr.l8723 Ай бұрын
LATER…. “Ah Dr. Reed Richards of Earth-1610! Great to meet ya, sport!” “Thanks! It’s so amazing to be a part of the Ultimate Universe! Spider-Man is getting so much praise! I would really like that same kind of fun with the Fantastic Four!” “Alright great! Let’s see what we got here for….yeah, you’re a villain now.” “What?” “Yeah, you’re a villain now, like…..full on….murdering psychopath villain. You’re evil now.” “How am I evil!?! I’m Mr. Fantastic! The nicest character in Marvel!” “Well you see the future and it freaks you out so you murder everyone you see, you torture people, you try to fix everything. You murder your family.” “EXCUSE ME!?!” “Yeah, and by the way, your name is Maker now.” “What kind of name is that!?!” “Cause you make stuff…..to kill. To kill people….also Sue hooks up with Ben.” “WHAT THE LITERAL FUCK!?! I JUST CAME HERE ASKING FOR SOME FUN STORIES AND YOU DO THIS TO ME!?!” “Hey, it’s not like Spider-Man gets all the praise. I mean he literally dies but then he comes back.” “So…..I must realize the error of my ways, right?” “No, this is permanent. You are irredeemable. You’re actually one of the reasons why we need to start fresh so you make a whole new universe.” “Oh well that sounds like typical FF stuff.” “By murdering people to prevent superheroes from existing.” “WHAT!?! NO! NO NO NO NO NO! I’M NOT DOING THAT! I QUIT!” “Too late, wheels are in emotion. You dissect Iron Man’s brain too.” “WHAT!?!”
@Kshandamion
@Kshandamion Ай бұрын
"And your Council of Reeds?" "Yeah, a whole multiverse of me! They wouldn't let me get away with all that, right?!" "Yeah... No. They now act as backups to come into whatever universe you're in to bail your ass out. You could literally be locked up in a prison specifically designed to imprison you, but one psychic call, boop-boop-boop, and another you will break you out. Honestly, you'd give that clown guy in the other place a run for his stolen money when it comes to immunity." "BUT!" "Comes with being Hickman's pet. *You* become a Villain Sue while that Brazilian guy with the solar powers, the one we keep forgetting what he looks like, gets dumber."
@jackson3475
@jackson3475 27 күн бұрын
Welp, he did get done dirty *_just like Spider-Man_*
@zanderwoods5434
@zanderwoods5434 Ай бұрын
To be fair, the new Ultimate Spider-Man run has Pete and MJ together again. Like, together together. Married with children together. Supporting each other in their major job decisions together. It's a breath of fresh air.
@Hartzilla2007
@Hartzilla2007 14 күн бұрын
And probably led to at least some people concluding that a Uncle Ben JJ bromance was something they never knew they wanted.
@scarlightprince
@scarlightprince 14 күн бұрын
First off, it's Uncle Ben, and we're glad he's still kicking. Second, he's the one making sure Pete doesn't lose it, so he could respect Ben's character.
@toxictaro
@toxictaro Ай бұрын
The Dr Light thing was super messed up. They gave him brain damage so bad, he ended up fighting kids.
@greyknight8
@greyknight8 Ай бұрын
When Dr. Light was the last character on the vid, I thought, “Oh God! They’re going to reference him!”
@TotalTech2.
@TotalTech2. Ай бұрын
Dr. Light was such a goof ball on Teen Titans
@greyknight8
@greyknight8 Ай бұрын
@@TotalTech2. Yeah, but not in the comics.
@TotalTech2.
@TotalTech2. Ай бұрын
@@greyknight8 I saw him in a few comics back in the early 90's. He was pretty goofy for the most part
@MultiBoxingKid
@MultiBoxingKid Ай бұрын
@@greyknight8I mean, from what I understood, he kinda was a silly villain. Then the rape thing happens and he became just became that.
@Anissa-Viltrumite
@Anissa-Viltrumite Ай бұрын
I am a big fan of Dr Light and his "techniques"
@themuffinmanofficial
@themuffinmanofficial Ай бұрын
HE ACTUALLY MADE IT HOLY SHIT THAT ONE COMMENT PROPHECISED IT
@ThePsych123
@ThePsych123 Ай бұрын
Lol I remember being sad thinking there's no way a line as great as "Hey Kyle, is your refrigerator running" can be in this video, and then it happened 😂
@Mobius14
@Mobius14 Ай бұрын
what prophesy?
@AK-qh6lr
@AK-qh6lr Ай бұрын
Hal: "Hey, so I drew another card, thinking it can't be any worse than genocide, right?" Editorial Guy: "Alright." "Yeah, I just have one question." "Alright, what'cha got?" "Yeah, who greenlit *child molester?!"* "..." "..." "So I know it sounds bad--"
@iguanaboi3921
@iguanaboi3921 Ай бұрын
Oh boy, if that's the reception Doctor Light gets, I can't wait to see how Deathstroke is treated
@Kshandamion
@Kshandamion Ай бұрын
Chris Hansen shows up and asks him to take a seat right over there.
@Jarakin
@Jarakin Ай бұрын
"Who's Paul?!" "We still don't know."
@maverickdarkrath4780
@maverickdarkrath4780 Ай бұрын
Spider man needs his own version of the dead pool comic where he kills his writers
@Firebird-he3sz
@Firebird-he3sz Ай бұрын
“Spiderman Kills the Marvel Universe” I’d read it.
@Fatboyftw32
@Fatboyftw32 Ай бұрын
Not his writers, his editors.
@hulyaterzi8560
@hulyaterzi8560 Ай бұрын
But for that to happen he needs to get mad and for that to happen his whole bloodline gets killed
@robertrowley4929
@robertrowley4929 Ай бұрын
That would make his payback feel much more cathartic. Not just for him, but for us the readers.
@Schenkel101
@Schenkel101 Ай бұрын
1:58 If they go from Green Lantern Corps to Green Lantern Corpses, doesn't that make them Black Lanterns?
@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii
@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii Ай бұрын
"Nah They Die"
@WazzpinatorReviews-or1zb
@WazzpinatorReviews-or1zb Ай бұрын
True…
@JPKloess
@JPKloess Ай бұрын
I don't know if I will ever get over the nonsense required to keep MJ and Peter Parker apart. I went back and read the 80's and 00's comics where they were together and that was such a good place for Peter's character to go.
@timechanger6679
@timechanger6679 Ай бұрын
For anyone wondering, let’s just say Dr Light fingered A minor, and it was not a guitar 😅 Edit: the comments corrected me he was a grapist(remove the G) not Drake my bad guys
@Joseanzinho-cq7zf
@Joseanzinho-cq7zf Ай бұрын
Drake:
@ComicalCatastrophe
@ComicalCatastrophe Ай бұрын
Ahh
@PALACIO254
@PALACIO254 Ай бұрын
Wait he did that on the cartoon network show?
@orsonzedd
@orsonzedd Ай бұрын
​@@PALACIO254no no in the comics
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson Ай бұрын
No I presume in the comments
@HazyBlackest
@HazyBlackest Ай бұрын
Mind blowing fact: You can have a relatable/likable character without making him a loser and having him go through one tragedy after another. The trick is to be a competent writer. Something Marvel clearly lack.
@ricardoberrios6137
@ricardoberrios6137 Ай бұрын
1:00 he dates a Dwarf” godamm 💀
@Kshandamion
@Kshandamion Ай бұрын
He, well Doc Ock in Peter's body, actually *does* and it's actually more tasteful than it sounds. Anna Marie Marconi is a fellow student at ESU that he bonds with over academics.
@ricardoberrios6137
@ricardoberrios6137 Ай бұрын
@@Kshandamion Yeah I actually like the character and all, I just thought the delivery was funny
@MaxWeb2599
@MaxWeb2599 Ай бұрын
"One More Day" leaved scars on some poor readers mind.
@christopherauzenne5023
@christopherauzenne5023 Ай бұрын
Spiderman Renew your vows: has peter married to mj and is raising a daughter. is universally beloved by everyone. the new Ultimate Spiderman series: has peter married to MJ with kids and is being universally praised by fans. marvel with 616: am I out of touch and not getting this is what people want for peter? NO, NO, it's the fans who are wrong.
@alexandermeinhardt4727
@alexandermeinhardt4727 Ай бұрын
I kid you not, the moment he said "Doctor Light", I actually shouted "NO" XD
@user-wd7uw7bb1c
@user-wd7uw7bb1c Ай бұрын
At this point I won't be surprised if an All Ivory King/Beyonder Sinister Six consisting of the most infamous Spider-man writters were torturing Peter.
@FrostDzNz
@FrostDzNz Ай бұрын
We dont talk about Paul the Self/OC-Insert
@TheMC1102
@TheMC1102 Ай бұрын
For those who don't know, Doctor Light and Anissa from Invincible did pretty much the same thing.
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 Ай бұрын
Grapes?
@hagos9939
@hagos9939 Ай бұрын
@@MarvinPowell1 yes
@jarrettadams4102
@jarrettadams4102 Ай бұрын
Doctor Light was way worse. Anissa didn't take no for an answer Light snuck onto the Watchtower, ran into Sue Dibny on accident and thought "no one can hear you in space." He also deduced several secret identities and mentioned that Flash wears a wedding ring under his gloves. Mind you, for decades prior to this Doctor Light was as big a threat as Doofenschmirtz or Shocker
@HMNCLunar
@HMNCLunar Ай бұрын
​@@jarrettadams4102*SHOCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRR!*
@Nobody1707
@Nobody1707 Ай бұрын
@@jarrettadams4102 And even less so afterwords because Zatana broke his mind and turned him into an even bigger joke than he was before the incident.
@grimshock6983
@grimshock6983 Ай бұрын
Spider Man writers have difficulty writing if he’s happy… No I’m serious. That actually is why
@orphanobliterater7027
@orphanobliterater7027 Ай бұрын
Yea, because most of them don't have stable marriages themselves and want Spidey to reflect that. JMS and Nick Spencer wrote prime PeterMJ comics, with Nick Spencers end goal for his run being to return the marriage. Marvels most famous What-If scenario was 'What-If Mayday Parker lived' which spawned the whole MC2 universe. Currently Ultimate Spider-Man(6160) outsells ASM every month, consistently being top5. RYV was also a successful AU story with it's only real fault being the time skip done to ensure a satisfactory end because it was about to be canceled. The marriage was never the problem, the writers and their editors made it seem like it was.
@darklightgamesanimations7563
@darklightgamesanimations7563 3 күн бұрын
"All it says is refrigerator" "... i... am so sorry."
@azozazoz9196
@azozazoz9196 Ай бұрын
The fact i'm being a longtime comic book fan and understanding these references, it makes me both happy and sickening at the same time.
@john1701q
@john1701q Ай бұрын
Refrigerator...........Oh Dear Lord I almost choked on my lunch Doctor Light, yeah I remember when he was a fun joke character.................. yeah.
@GreatNorthernUnofficialChannel
@GreatNorthernUnofficialChannel Ай бұрын
Refrigerator? What is that about?
@AAAAAAAAAAHH123
@AAAAAAAAAAHH123 Ай бұрын
@@GreatNorthernUnofficialChannel Kyle's girlfriend was killed and shoved in a refrigerator
@bubbles784
@bubbles784 Ай бұрын
@@GreatNorthernUnofficialChannel Kyle Raynor (Green Lantern) comes home to discover his girlfriend dead and stuffed into the fridge by a villain called "Major Force" (spawned the "Women in refrigerators"/ "fridged" trope). An event way later called "Blackest Night"‚ a space zombie event‚ had her reanimated and describe to Kyle in detail how she was killed and stuffed into said fridge (‚ though the fandom wiki says she showed the process through her power ring‚ so I might be misremembering).
@Alpharelic
@Alpharelic Ай бұрын
It's always the joke characters who turn out to be the darkest
@Anissa-Viltrumite
@Anissa-Viltrumite Ай бұрын
I am a big fan of Doctor Light's work I'm sure we would be friends if we ever met irl
@Mcowboy2142
@Mcowboy2142 Ай бұрын
Oh god, i deeply require brain bleach to forget about the “Dr Light Incident”
@cristroye7165
@cristroye7165 Ай бұрын
Wuts dat?
@valon5069
@valon5069 Ай бұрын
@@cristroye7165 serial rapist
@datguyjg3364
@datguyjg3364 Ай бұрын
​@@cristroye7165DC Identity Crisis ​Issue 2.
@johntorres9551
@johntorres9551 Ай бұрын
yea what
@willdominatetheunviersein123
@willdominatetheunviersein123 Ай бұрын
Sir, you don't WANT to know
@RibbitSpell
@RibbitSpell Ай бұрын
Mary Jane's voice actor is awesome!
@blenderbanana
@blenderbanana Ай бұрын
That Teen Titans Go Dr.Light redemption/beat down is gonna hit different
@CommanderSteelTrap
@CommanderSteelTrap Ай бұрын
Ooh, the Doctor Light incident. Poor Sue and Ralph.
@inanimatesum4945
@inanimatesum4945 Ай бұрын
You pretty much summed up exactly why everyone CHEERED when Paul loses the kids
@erintesden
@erintesden Ай бұрын
I knew shit was going to get hardcore when dr Light appeared.
@flintlockwood25
@flintlockwood25 Ай бұрын
The second he said Doctor Light I had never felt such fear before in my life
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