I regretted pulling Raiden until I tried Hybrid Raiden

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Soluna

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Raiden used to be the character I regretted getting the most. She had been benched for a year and a half. But a while ago I realized that a certain weapon enabled a Hybrid play style in a way that makes her not only fun to me, but also so strong that I genuinely believe Hybrid Raiden is the best way to play her.
Cut Segment using a dmg Calculator to show dmg with different weapons and without C2 Nahida, among other things:
• Hybrid Raiden Dmg Calc...
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Chapters:
00:00 The Flaw and the "Fix"
03:01 The Fun Part (Teams Showcase)
04:01 Furina/Bennett/Nahida/Hybrid Raiden
05:00 Rational/Raiden Hyper/Hyperbloom Control Tests
09:46 Why Versatility is Important
11:21 DMC/XQ/Bennett/Hybrid Raiden
12:25 DMC/Yelan/Fischl/Hybrid Raiden
13:51 Nahida/Yelan/Fischl/Hybrid Raiden
14:56 Baizhu/Furina/Fischl/Hybrid Raiden
15:33 Sucrose/DMC/Yelan/Hybrid Raiden
17:12 Sucrose/Baizhu/Furina/Hybrid Raiden
17:59 Yelan/Furina/Nahida/Hybrid Raiden
18:43 Furina/Baizhu/Ganyu/Hybrid Raiden
19:52 So, WHY is SoSS needed?
27:52 Artifacts
30:55 Difficulty to get SoSS vs C2 Raiden
36:02 Segment that isn't a segment
36:29 Worst Case Scenario Hybrid Raiden
39:44 "Hypercarry" Hybrid Raiden
43:49 I no longer regret Raiden
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@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Edit 2: So I didn't mention Chevreuse in this video because she didn't exist when I made it, and importantly I didn't think she would make Raiden on a traditional build feel as good as she does, and give traditional Raiden a meaningful amount more team diversity. I've tested a whole bunch of teams with Chev C0 & Raiden on both the hybrid build shown this video and a traditional build, and I like most of the teams I tested. So I am going to make this comment even more of a wall of text lmao. TL;DR of my Chev/Raiden thoughts is that I actually still prefer my SoSS Hybrid build even with SoSS, but Chevreuse does far more to "fix" Raiden more than my silly and high investment use of a 5-star weapon does. So, I didnt go into why I dislike Rational this video because that wasnt what I was trying to talk about or show, but part of its because I find having to utilize XQ very annoying (there are other things too, but XQ is the main reason I hate the feel of the team). Before Chevreuse released I kinda accidentally had it in my head that Chev could replace Kazuha in traditional hypercarry Raiden teams, and hadn’t thought enough about the fact that she is more relevant for replacing Xingqiu even with low constellations. I actually like how Chevreuse/Raiden teams play, quite a lot. It no longer has the severe clunkiness issues with XQ that I had, and even more importantly in my opinion it opens up traditional Raiden team variations even further (ones that feel good to play). Ive tried the following Chev C0/Raiden combinations: Bennett/XL, XL/Fischl, XL/Sara, Yae/XL, and maybe more Im forgetting about. All of them felt pretty good to me, with Raiden/Chev/XL/Fischl actually being my favorite, and notably I think Yae/Raiden felt like a good combo for the first time (still not perfect, Yaes burst is hard to find time to fit in), as I never liked the Raikou team before, despite being an enthusiast for many Yae team variations lol. Their main downside is reliance on XL, but those teams are still more forgiving than national is if you dont snapshot Chevs at buff with XLs burst for example. It would be nice if we had other decent off field pyro options but XLs kinda all we have lol. With that said, funnily enough I also found I prefer Raiden on her same hybrid build in those teams too though, as I found the exchange of some Raiden talent damage for overload dmg to be worthwhile especially in balancing dmg distribution such that you dont need the team to rely on bursting on Raiden to finishing the last 20% of an enemies health, for example. Same reason I preferred Fischl over Bennett for Raiden/Chev team variations. Traditional builds with Chev see meaningfully more talent damage so its not objectively better, but even in this current single target focused abyss I liked hybrid more, and it is a universal build for me to keep Raiden on. But for Chev/Raiden variations it isnt so much better to make me say its actually worth getting SoSS for compared to the very big difference SoSS makes for hyperbloom hybrid Raiden. Point being, more than my silly high investment “fix” for Raiden, I think Chevreuse fixed Raiden much better than I did lol. Which is a good thing obviously. I think Chevs release wouldve made it so I didnt regret Raiden any longer even if I didnt do my silly hybrid build. /end Chevreuse thoughts Edit: I was informed of the fact that % based EM buffs don't get used in SoSS's EM to atk conversion. This is very weird, but does not change anything that I showed in video, but it does actually give more relevance to potentially choose DMC over Nahida for Hybrid Raiden, for example, as DMC would buff Raiden's talent based dmg more than Nahida. Oh, and Sucrose EM buff doesn't work either, therefore Kazuha is obviously a better choice than her if using an Anemo unit with Hybrid Raiden. I made a stream talking and showing some of this: kzfaq.infoXFdlnF0O6xU There is a lot of additional things I wanted to mention in this comment. Most importantly, iirc I said this in the video, BUT DONT COMPARE THE CLEAR TIMES THAT MUCH. Would I have shown some things differently in hindsight? For sure, I am not perfect, theres things I couldve done better for this video. But remember that there is too much slight variaton between my play or the things the enemies do to use the clear times to compare the individual teams. I did ONE TAKE for every team I showed. I optimized for nothing, and I think it is more honest to show it this way. Like good lord, I know I played National wrong (and I know about Sara, more about her below), but that WAS NOT THE POINT. I wasn't saying National was bad, but was including it to specifically try to show Raiden's damage in national as a simple control comparison for the damage Raiden contributes specifically. That's it. That's why I said I played it wrong. The point of showing all those teams is the team diversity. I think Raiden having few relevant teams with her traditional emblem playstyle (where she uniquely has a fit in) is emblematic of her C0 carry playstyle problems by how little she gains from new units releasing. Even Furinas release happened, and the only traditional Raiden team with her people seem to like is basically Mono Hydro but with Raiden on field (Raiden/Jean/Furina/Yelan). I ultimately just wanted this video to show that getting SoSS for Raiden may be a worthwhile option to get more value out of her kit like it did for me, as it makes me genuinely have a lot of fun with Raiden when I found little I enjoyed about her kit before. This may not be the case for you, but it is for me. I want my videos to show how I have fun in Genshin not as a gambling simulator, but as a game. Checkout the description for the segment that shows numbers using a dmg calculator without C2 Nahida and with different weapons, among other things. Its pretty dry, but it is there if you wanted more directly compared numbers for various Hybrid Raiden things. I also have expanded on some specific thoughts in some replies to a number of comments on this video. After more testing, I got up to 265k damage in the hybrid Raiden team I showed with C6 Sara (after activating C2 Furina, over 200k is possible without C2). But overall, as I've used the team more, Sara just feels like an awkward character to use with her hybrd playstle. Fun only in being able to see a really big number for Raiden. I substantially prefer hybrid Raiden with Bennett over Sara thus far. The team feels better and you still see really big Raiden damage (just slightly less, I got 245k with Bennett in the same situation), with Furina getting big vape damage too, plus overload damage and occasional satisfying damage from Raiden's non burst NAs with C6 Bennett. In other words, C6 Bennett is strong lol. But then Id also prefer Fischl over Sara too. Main reason to avoid Bennett for Hybrid Raiden, in my opinion, is if you use Dendro traveler and dont want to accidentally blow up their burst, or if you need Bennett in the other side of Abyss. One last thing, there is potential Hybrid Raiden synergy with a certain bird releasing in 4.4, though that synergy is kinda up in the air at the moment (Homdgcat said Raiden's plunge gets her buff but "won't trigger it" which probably was meant in relation to Xianyun's own off field burst dmg, but I dunno exactly). She is in beta right now though, so I obviously did not want to say anything concretely in the video related to a character that may not function as expected on release. Actually, one LAST last thing, I try not to be overly negative in my videos, but I think it is important to mention here--I think C0 Raiden's carry playstyle feeling like it needs a 5 star weapon to me is emblematic of how badly her kit was designed at C0. Personally, I think part of the reason Hoyo made hyperbloom as strong as they did was because they realized they messed up with her design and they need Raiden C0 to have more relevance than just as a bad C0 carry unit. I think her C0 kit's intended carry playstyle is particularly sad compared to Navia, who is kinda similar in that she can get big frontloaded damage, but Navia has more baseline team versatility (as a Geo unit!) and multiple instances of her big frontloaded damage compared to C0 Raiden's one main carry team (national, which is very strong without her) and one instance of frontloaded damage. I maintain that Raiden has the worst C0 kit design of any archon, probably because they wanted to bait you to get her C2. Point being, 5 star weapons should not make as big of a difference for any character to the degree SoSS does for Hybrid Raiden, in my opinion. But I am glad there is at least way for C0 Raiden's carry playstyle to feel good to me.
@Rick_TheBest
@Rick_TheBest 6 ай бұрын
i shouldnt have pressed read more.... why is there so much....
@ciodicyan2526
@ciodicyan2526 6 ай бұрын
my guy was going on a rant@@Rick_TheBest
@misterna2882
@misterna2882 6 ай бұрын
I disagree with you on Raiden having the worst archon kit at C0. I would have said prebuff Zhongli have the worst c0 kit. prebuff Zhongli c2 is also bait in my opinion due to how his kit work before he got buff but now he is in a much better state. I would argue, Venti now have the worst C0 kit.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
@@misterna2882 I did not say she has the worst utility of any archon kit, I said she has the worst kit design of any archon C0. Its just my own personal view on how they were designed based on what I think makes for interesting/good characters to me, not a measure of how useful I think a character can be. Prebuff Zhongli doesnt exist, so I dont really care about that since he got buffed. As he exists I think he is designed to be the universal shielder, and succeeds at that while also offering some other generic utility. Venti I believe is second worst, though I could definitely be convinced to agree he is worse than Raiden on a kit design level, but I still like him on paper more for being more unique.
@TaigaZzz
@TaigaZzz 6 ай бұрын
I think she is designed to be a support that does damage while providing buffs and energy recharge and getting C2 makes her ability as main dps better. That being said, I think her kit is well designed where she can build around ER which boosts her dmg and also provides party members with energy which synergies well. This fits really well if you have another character that plays around their burst skill. Also catch is wonderful weapon for her idk what you are talking about 5star weapon Also I tried running nahida furina bennet raiden team with engulfing lightning + classic emblem artifact and it felt really strong. I guess EM that nahida gives is enough (?) I am not sure tho what do you think?
@reactiondavant-garde3391
@reactiondavant-garde3391 6 ай бұрын
I don't want to be mean, but post-3.0 Aggravate Raiden was always a good option for an on-field Raiden playstyle. Though Furina help a LOT for Quickbloom teams by having slow hydro apllication and a bunch of Damage Bonus. But I am just being pedantic, it is very cool to show off alternatives for Raiden. People really over focusing 2-3 teams with her. Oh, and if someone doesn't want to pull on weapen banners but buy Battle Pass the Fjord Polearm is a good subsidute for SoSS espeically on high Refinment.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Ultimately, if a team is fun to you and can clear the content in the game, that is all that matters. I maintain this perspective. But if we evaluate compared to other existing units, Raiden isnt a great aggravate DPS compared to other options. She's not unusable just as aggravate, but its not something she is particularly good at compared to Keqing even. But she IS very good at hyperbloom, and aggravate DOES give her additional talent based damage. In this context, I consider hybrid Raiden (on SoSS) to be the best of not both worlds, but the best of ALL worlds for utilizing her kit to its max potential. You get the satisfying talent based damage from using Raiden's burst, get hyperbloom damage that is very high (much higher than quickbloom units normally can get), and the additional dmg from aggravate is what pushes her talent dmg to potentially be better than in traditional Raiden teams (even if she isnt the best as a pure aggravate). Her full balance on a hybrid build compromises surprisingly little of those three different "worlds" for Raiden when you have SoSS, in my experience. Though the exact extent of which will vary by the team. This is why I think I have started having fun with her again. There is no other unit that can work as well as she was for this hybrid play style. It utilizes all the things that she can do, and I think that's super fun.
@reactiondavant-garde3391
@reactiondavant-garde3391 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra I agree, my point was just thet she had always an alternative playstyle with aggravate and quickbloom from 3.0. And about aggravate: Compered to Kequing you sacrofice rotational flexibility for some off-field electro application and superior damage, as we all know Kequing's doesn't really have good multiplyers so she hit the wall faster then Raiden. And Raiden and Kequing have close to the saem application except wen Kequing use her burst for a short time. Though I think even Lisa is better then both of them because how much more investment you can put into her as well she have pretty good multiplyers on her skill as well. Personally I pulled my SoSS in the last banner for my Raiden and Hu Tao already so it was pretty funny how you made this video this time around, haha. I had the same idea with a hybrid Raiden, but I think useing a Raiden/Furina/YaoYao/Dendro Flex core will be the best for her. Especially because if I knew correctly SoSS only scale with flat EM buffs, so it is doesn't work with Sucrose or Nahida EM shareing talent. Overall I like the angle you taken with this video, though I think you should pointed out thet the new Battle Pass weapen is a very good subsidute for Hybrid Raiden. It is allow you to build her more tradiotionally because how much EM it is give you especially on high refinment.
@wellwellwell881
@wellwellwell881 6 ай бұрын
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 You are correct about the EM sharing bit with SoSS. Helps her aggravate/hyperbloom damage at least.
@reactiondavant-garde3391
@reactiondavant-garde3391 6 ай бұрын
@@wellwellwell881Even just with the flat buffs you can cheat out a lot of EM so it is still really strong weapen, arugable the best "value" 5* polearm.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 I actually included that in the cut segment linked in the description. The issue is that the new BP weapon requires re balancing stats a bit, such that in my case I found that it is about 70% worse than SoSS (though exact numbers varied by team) for Raiden's talent dmg, while maintaining good hyperbloom damage. And that is kinda just such a drop that I don't think it would feel good without having much better quality artifacts than I have available.
@Lukz243
@Lukz243 6 ай бұрын
As a non-Raiden stan, I'd say this one is a very interesting build, since it uses her kit while allowing her to proc reactions
@sudiptaday7875
@sudiptaday7875 6 ай бұрын
As a day one raiden stan I find this the most fun team of her as c0
@gilgamesh5154
@gilgamesh5154 6 ай бұрын
Just for clarification for the hyper raiden part at 8:00 sara must be used as last character before raisen otherwise you're not getting her attack buff her 60% crit dmg buff or elegy you can also EQ de buff her own dmg which is relevant cuz she does between 100 and 200k depending on the investment Anyway l tried hybrid raiden i must say it feels really good especially the furina nahida bennet or jean team but i didn't swap to soss or artefacts i m too lazy 😅
@alex_demote
@alex_demote 6 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video since the day you first mentioned hybrid raiden. I'm so excited to try to match this build
@itayoo1016
@itayoo1016 6 ай бұрын
another banger vid from you!
@maxfrohlich2787
@maxfrohlich2787 6 ай бұрын
Good video! Can't wait to see how Chevreuse will shake things up in a couple of days!
@disonalvan
@disonalvan 6 ай бұрын
it's funny how people seemingly forget you can do quickbloom raiden to get best of both worlds
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Thats what this is, but it’s a much much worse option without SoSS. Checkout the cut segment in the description
@zeer7676
@zeer7676 6 ай бұрын
you can, but people would rather use kuki instead of her because heal.
@disonalvan
@disonalvan 3 ай бұрын
@@zeer7676 late response, but quickbloom raiden usually uses Baizhu to heal Furina's damage to the team. People tend to prefer Kuki in hyperbloom, but that's a different team
@Fiction-pg7tp
@Fiction-pg7tp 6 ай бұрын
Aren't you supposed to use Sara before Raiden burst?
@lolof1173
@lolof1173 6 ай бұрын
Yes, Raiden didnt get buffed by Sara and Saras personal damage would also be a good damage contribution
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yeah thats my bad, I actually did realize this after finishing editing the video and playing more with Sara and Raiden yesterday after activating Furina C2 (I messed around with Sara and Raiden for about an hour). But overall I think Sara still just feels awkward to use compared to other options. Like Id rather just use Fischl for example. Fischl will contribute additional team damage and reduce Raidens energy needs, which can be very relevant depending on your artifacts available for hybrid raiden. And if you still want really big numbers from Raiden, I liked Bennett more. So Sara C6 still kinda feels like it exists in no mans land, where I only feel like Id gain value out of it if I have two electro DPS units, but then oops now the team has 3 electro units and you cant really do much with only one extra element. If Sara herself had been made to contribute some amount of damage this wouldnt be an issue, but alas. (Yes I know she can be made to deal some damage on emblem but its just not enough compared to what other units do in conjunction with how awkward she feels to me)
@AckazeYT
@AckazeYT 6 ай бұрын
​@@Solunerra I honestly agree with how awkward Sara can be especially in abyss because she can still get hit by easily dodge able hits normally from other characters without a shielder
@Anonymous-wv6zb
@Anonymous-wv6zb 6 ай бұрын
​@@Solunerra you can try with sara, furina, jean and raiden, I've been playing this team and it's quite fun... You should have fav on jean and a bit more energy recharge than you already have if you are not familiar with rotations
@wellwellwell881
@wellwellwell881 6 ай бұрын
@@Anonymous-wv6zb Not that Sara isn't viable there, but the trade-offf isn't worth it imo. Losing a lot of potential subdps from someone like Yelan or Fischl. Yelan can even trigger hydro res to increase her and Furina's dps. But at the end of the day, they all work.
@caveats
@caveats 6 ай бұрын
Tysm for making this video! I have SoSS and have been saving for Raiden, this makes her look so fun and satisfying to play.
@DHGcrimson
@DHGcrimson 6 ай бұрын
o it stands for her weapon staff of scarlet sands
@BlueShadesAll
@BlueShadesAll 6 ай бұрын
and it looks like a very long zhongli schlong too! feeds my gif head canon...! gif lore acccureatee! lmao
@cheapopaul4557
@cheapopaul4557 6 ай бұрын
I actually agree. I pulled the staff in question while aiming at the other weapon on the banner and started playing with the passive. The akasha system only has very limited metrics to compare units. But i replicated what u did in the abyss (furina, benett on a healing oriented instructor set and nahida on deepwood) and it actually slaps and i also did see some fairly high numbers on raiden's ultimate despite nahida being c0 and her being only c1. Thank you for this video man, that really confirms my experience of this weapon's particular synergy with raiden.
@howorwhat3088
@howorwhat3088 6 ай бұрын
I play Raiden aggravate for long time and its work very well my team was Raiden, Kazuha, Fischel and Yaoyao.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I never liked it compared to other aggravate DPS units though. She’s kinda bad at aggravate at a baseline compared to say, Keqing, a standard banner 5 star. So the idea is to use SoSS to maximize what Raiden is really good at (hyperbloom) while getting a meaningful amount of additional value from aggravates
@howorwhat3088
@howorwhat3088 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra Your right she is not very good in Aggravate but i like this team because it has everything you want in a team Raiden as dps driver with strong interrupt resistance, Kazuha as buffer and grouper, Fischel as off field dps and changer, Yaoyao as apply dendro and healer. With 2 4* team mate ,we can save some important unit for other teams. And ty for very good content and guide.
@RezDK
@RezDK 6 ай бұрын
Raiden on sunfire is quite fun and she works well with alhaitham spread or eula duo carry and with chevreuse there will be new overload teams possibly with arlecchino in the future. She doesn't lack team variety hyper carry and hyperbloom aren't the only options👏👏
@ExtraAin
@ExtraAin 6 ай бұрын
Props on getting that defcirclet on ur yelan
@loa_loveoverall
@loa_loveoverall 6 ай бұрын
Very cool video! Got lvl one SoSS, time to do some mining!
@TheWindsofWonder
@TheWindsofWonder 6 ай бұрын
1:55 Idk. Mtashed had C0 for a while and was absolutely destroying with a hyper comp. Maybe it’s his level of investment, he did have pretty good artifacts. But I disagree with the idea that hyper raiden requires C2 to succeed. Absolutely it’s a better team at C2 but plenty strong enough to succeed at C0. I do love this hybrid build though.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
My issue isnt that you cannot use carry Raiden at C0, but that her C0 traditional carry play style only really has those two main teams people play. I guess you could argue about Raikou being decent for traditional C0 carry Raiden as well (Raikou is a Yae/Raiden team) but as an enjoyer of all the Yae team variants, Raikou honestly has felt like one of the worst Yae team variants to me lol. 3 Teams aint much, hence why I like her hybrid playstyle precisely because of the diversity it offers and strength it has in making teams not crazily reliant on Raidens talent dmg alone, which with a traditional build is just a poor carry/hypercarry compared to other units of a similar nature
@jeanwinter5275
@jeanwinter5275 6 ай бұрын
I remember him doing 180k slash in abyss with a hyper-carry team and he was shocked by it. Maybe it's just a big number on screen giving effect! He was so busy in expressing this that did not even notice how he needed to do an extra rotation just to kill an almost dead enemy.
@wellwellwell881
@wellwellwell881 6 ай бұрын
@@jeanwinter5275 No, it's doable. It's just not her best team at C0.
@houssem5392
@houssem5392 6 ай бұрын
your should try furina yelan jean raiden its so much fun especially with jean c2
@jeanwinter5275
@jeanwinter5275 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing up this hot topic, especially in such detail... Although a bit late No TC's had balls to cover it a year ago, as it would give so many C3R1 Raiden-havers emotional damage. One of those TC was even making hot-takes compilation back then and was gathering suggestions. A year ago I just put my quickbloom-Cyno stUff on her and got even more dmg, plus the damage from Nahida and Yelan... It completely shames hyper-Raiden
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
I wouldnt really consider myself a proper TCer or anything. But yeah, I figured some people would dislike this video for the fact that it does kinda show how it doesnt make the most sense to go all in to Raiden constellations. I was originally planning to make some form of this video about 6 months ago, but decided to wait for a Raiden rerun, but I only had SoSS on my Polearm Only account, so I couldnt make this video till now. (I also didnt have enough time to rush out the video before SoSS banner ended)
@jeanwinter5275
@jeanwinter5275 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra For me TC means being honest and innovative which you fulfilled in this video! Also I separate TheoryCrafters from guide-makers. Anyone can copy-cat build-guide novadays
@jonathanettinger3104
@jonathanettinger3104 6 ай бұрын
Engulfing lightning enable to play a dmg build on xiangling without benny
@Smashingg
@Smashingg 6 ай бұрын
I just got Raiden C0 (with cheuv C6 in 60 pulls yay!!) and getting good artifacts takes timee. I have SoSS laying around since I wanted the Haran, which is super useful now! I will deffinitly go playing her hybrid build you recommend, tysm for explaining!
@lolspirit2617
@lolspirit2617 6 ай бұрын
I got c4 jean on Furina banner and put skyward on Raiden. Its so fun just to spam left click and go brrrr
@ChinchillaBONK
@ChinchillaBONK 6 ай бұрын
The stats with good EM, decent Recharge (for Raiden) on top of the crit stats is crazy.
@Dravi0n
@Dravi0n 6 ай бұрын
that artifact change was sick bro
@zanzatbc
@zanzatbc 6 ай бұрын
I am so glad when I find other players that understand the joys of Raiden in aggravate/quickbloom teams. It’s an absolutely underrated team and not enough people talk about it. I believe most of the community got extremely carried away with hyperbloom, the reaction is amazing and it has a very easy to achieve high-damage floor, but it’s a reaction. you still want to pair hyperbloom with units that can also pull off some good talent damage as well.
@gachacaspa
@gachacaspa 6 ай бұрын
Im planning a hybird build with ballad of fjord. More for aggravate though. 400 em a good crit ratio and decent er. The thing is y9u gotta swap her goblet between attack and electro damage depending on supports for better scalings. So many stats are useful on her, it a wierd situation. It good and bad for her.
@liiich6175
@liiich6175 6 ай бұрын
Now I wish I had that staff. Wonder how much more this build does with the c2 unlocked
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Quite a lot lol, I tested it on my polearm only account (tested in the video about spending 40k resin on Raiden), and by my calcs I could get over 400k on initial hit on my main account, with 60-70k NA/CA aggravates (which is silly and frankly unnecessary lol)
@salahm1658
@salahm1658 6 ай бұрын
45:19 of plaisur 😊 The team and the play style was suprising fun but i have questions is c0 raiden worth it juste asking since i want to wish for her in p2
@itsdakingofkings2550
@itsdakingofkings2550 6 ай бұрын
With the Baizhu/Furina variant you trade off core generation for more aggravate up time (as compared to a Yelan/Nahida variant). That’s probably why they felt similar since Raiden is aggravating more of her hits
@carljamesjusi6259
@carljamesjusi6259 6 ай бұрын
This is so geniusssssss!
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Lol thanks, but honestly its not that smart, its just a side effect or realizing how EM functions and how converting it to attack mitigates the normal downside of building em for talent based damage
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn
@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn 6 ай бұрын
I have always used Hybrid Raiden but furina definitely upgraded it for me. Before her release my team was Raiden, Nahida, QiQi and Xingqui. Now its Raiden, Nahida, Jean and Furina. She is built with her signature, ER sands, EM ciclet and goblet. With Nahidas burst my Raiden has about 1k EM and 300 ER with 60 Crit chance and 140 Crit damage. Her Signature is still her best option because of the extra ER giving more Electro damage bonus and ATK which she is lacking thanks to the focus on ER, Crit and EM on her artifacts. With this much ER she also ensures my team always have their bursts off cooldown meaning they can have more damagijg builds as well especially Furina who is a bit EM hungry.
@Johnny_Pokemon
@Johnny_Pokemon 6 ай бұрын
As a SoSS and c0 Raiden haver Im glad you made this vid, she SLAPS in any team with dendro and hydro, especially with nahida. I just got 1 question tho, I was really tempted to go for Raiden c2, but since i dont have EL and only have SoSS, idk anymore. How much does hybrid build benefit from the ignore DEF? Or is it not worth it?
@andrzejat6163
@andrzejat6163 6 ай бұрын
You should try Hybrid Raiden with Furina, Nahida and Baizhu. Baizhu on Nobles with TTDS
@quadraoq4478
@quadraoq4478 6 ай бұрын
Interesting. But building gilded on standard er atk crit main with her signature would be better, no? Watching that 180 er and burst not coming back feels a bit wrong..
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
See the cut segment, Engulfing is realistically hybrid raidens second best option because of the ER, but it makes finding a good stat balance basically impossible in a hybrid build. As far as energy goes, I didnt feel like going into it much because ER needs vary a lot by team. I showed a number of Fischl variations of hybrid Raiden teams because of how good of an Energy battery she is for Raiden. She can vastly reduce Raidens ER needs and contribute a lot of team dmg herself. In the Bennett/Furina/Nahida/Raiden variation I have found 200 ER (the build I used in the very first team I showed) to be enough, and you have this interesting aspect wherein because you are doing things in the team without needing Raidens burst consistently up exactly at specific times, it hurts way less to be on a lower ER build, personally. It is also something that could be solved with a goofy ER% timepiece that has some heavy EM substat rolls even
@quadraoq4478
@quadraoq4478 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra oh yeah absolutely. I can see your point. Playing your rotations even depends on enemies' wave as well. Sometimes unga bungaing is NOT the play. Its just that being hybrid I would sacrifice ER the least before anything else. Idk, but I like the build. Good job. Nowadays I also see her more as a teamdriver more than a selfish-ish carry. The hypercarry days was fun but I think that has to end lmao.
@Sangromancer
@Sangromancer Ай бұрын
if i dont have soss can i use her sig and gilded?
@BellaenDuHljodhr
@BellaenDuHljodhr 5 ай бұрын
I went with the Battle of the Fjords and picking up her c2, and I'm getting pretty comparable numbers, so I think that's an option for avoiding the weapon banner and still getting the c2 to play standard hypercarry if desired/needed
@Zemuzu22
@Zemuzu22 6 ай бұрын
I see people constantly recommending the Raiden/Yelan/Furina/Jean team, and while it is very good, it’s a bit overrated I feel because of purely one Abyss cycle that was geared toward Hydro. Compared to the 4.2 Abyss, it really fell off in usage with this current Abyss. People make it sound like it’s the new Hypercarry team of choice and that couldn’t be more than false. The point of this game isn’t to just use a couple teams and stick with them. It’s fun to explore options and stick your characters in different teams to have fun with it and try new things. Hypercarry, Rational, Aggravate, Quickbloom, and Taser Raiden all work well: some better than others depending on the cycle present. Not to mention that we’re getting Chevreuse soon and now Overload will be put on the menu.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
I agree, that team was people feeling that Furina was making more of a difference than it actually was without actually going into the numbers much.
@moderatelysavage4071
@moderatelysavage4071 6 ай бұрын
This abyss has Electro immunity one one side, and Hydro on the other side so obviously the Raiden Furina team won't be making a showing this abyss. that doesn't make it overrated.
@Zemuzu22
@Zemuzu22 6 ай бұрын
Overhyped is a more fitting word. It's nice to have another option for a Raiden team that allows Bennett and Kazuha to be used on the other side, but that's all it really does in the grand scheme of things. And even then that still doesn't take away from my previous points, plus you basically regurgitated the point that was already made.
@Zemuzu22
@Zemuzu22 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. I have C2 Furina as well and the team is strong, but it's really just a solid taser team at the end of the day that clearly has more teamwide damage compared to frontloaded from Raiden. It has the exact same EQ roatation as Raiden teams usually has so it's not like it even brings anything new to the table.
@wellwellwell881
@wellwellwell881 6 ай бұрын
@@Zemuzu22 Furina double hydro+Jean is just a good core for any dps, but Raiden has the advantage of being comfy because of her interruption resist. This is probably the main reason people prefer her over a lot of other dps, in terms of gameplay. It's not great this abyss because this abyss hates hydro and electro dps in general. Hydro on the first side and electro on the second. The taser team archetype just isn't great this cycle since it's a mix of both elements doing the dps.
@pops1cle187
@pops1cle187 6 ай бұрын
hi what other weapons would also be viable on Hybrid Raiden and whats the difference
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Homa and Engulfing are realistically second best by nature of giving atk in their own ways, despite not building attack. New BP weapon could be an option too, or even The Catch. My issue with any of them is balancing your stats in a hybrid build with any of those 3 is just hard to do. SoSS's strength is the amount of stats it gives just makes reaching a decent build balance much easier than other weapons. I talked about it more in my livestream today if you want to check it out.
@TheMoonestOne
@TheMoonestOne 6 ай бұрын
Personally, Raiden always seemed good with Dendro in general. In Aggravate it was ok, and with hyperbloom as well. One thing that I enjoyed in 3.0 with Hyperbloom Raiden being a skill bot, is how I could use certain characters Normal Attacks that usually I wouldn't in a normal team. Like Nahida's or Yelan's, and their animations are so fun to watch xD But then with Furina, I tried Raiden, Furina, Baizhu and Kazuha (all C0 with with the only 5* weapon being Primordial Jade ) and the team DPS increase was nice. But good thing you found a way to enjoy her playstyle 👍
@Anonymous-wv6zb
@Anonymous-wv6zb 6 ай бұрын
I played 4.2 abyss first half on my friend's account with a raiden c0, It was still great in my opinion, the teammates I was using were: mona(lv80/80), Bennett (c4 with skyward blade), and succrose c6 with sacrificial (cc was important). I was averaging times like 8:47 seconds for the first chamber, which is a lot all things considered for that abyss, and near 9 minutes for the second and third.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, you can certainly get use out of Raiden C0, I just was never satisfied with her carry playstyle at C0
@dazaiosamu7184
@dazaiosamu7184 6 ай бұрын
W video. Also you didnt talk about the best raiden hybrid team in which you basically replace cyno in his best team with raiden. So basically raiden, furina, baizhu and nahida where you build her similar to hyper but with staff of scarlet sands and emblem. The goal here is to take advantage of dendro resonance, instructor-ttds baizhu and nahida's passive to reach around 600 em which is good enough. So you're doing around 20k hyperblooms with your regular quicken dmg and also benefiting from staff's passive, not as much compared to someone like cyno would but raiden also has shorter rotations and easier burst uptime on all characters to the point where you can build furina more offensively and go instructor baizhu and still get his energy back. This team can also function as a pure hyperbloom team when you dont want to use raiden burst or anyones burst to end the chamber unlike cyno where his skill doesnt apply enough electro. Imo this is the most comfortable raiden hybrid team that has really great synergy among the characters and doesnt feel punishing to play compared to someone like cyno. Dolphin players can also use key of khaj on furina and thousand floating dreams on nahida to reach 800 em on raiden without actually building any main stat em pieces on her.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
True, I did forget about double dendro lol, I do think that is particularly relevant if you want Nahida in another team
@vitalikielbasa842
@vitalikielbasa842 6 ай бұрын
I just so happened to pull for soss and was planning on going for rational team but after seeing this would you recommend I try a dendro team with all em on her? If I were to do rational I have c2 Bennett c6 xiangling with the catch and xingqiu c1
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
If you already play national variants and enjoy them I think you’d probably be more than happy with Rational. But since you have SoSS already I think you may get more value out of a hybrid build. Dunno how many artifacts you have available or if you have Furina, but just keep in mind ER and atk subtats are very valuable on hybrid Raiden, not just crit, and if you dont have a em goblet with relevant substats atk% or electro is still fine. Just the less EM you have the less hyperbloom damage (and other reaction damage) you do
@NovaOrNeo
@NovaOrNeo 6 ай бұрын
I did the last 2 abyss runs with a dendro traveler raiden fischl bennett team and it turned out pretty good even with my poor investment lol
@HighLevelPlayer
@HighLevelPlayer 6 ай бұрын
This is very interesting.
@crimsonram6106
@crimsonram6106 6 ай бұрын
I’m also using Scarlet spear and EM sands on Raiden, it’s a win-win, she gets to 2200 self buffed Attack in 2 swings while provides better reaction damage due to the increased EM (350 on mine)
@inser3882
@inser3882 6 ай бұрын
basically quickbloom raiden
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think its more accurate to call it hybrid specifically because of how much you can lean into EM. Most quickbloom teams aren’t hitting as much hyperbloom damage as hybrid Raiden on SoSS can while maintaining good talent damage, for example
@wyndair
@wyndair 6 ай бұрын
Ever since those EM conversion weapons dropped (including the gacha Sumeru 4*) ive been saying how broken they are for multiple builds example using Albedo with xeno moonlight to turn it into a strong shielder plus passing down lots of energy and the EM from his passive which is great for units like Cyno. Plus combining moonlight with full emblem its a full on Energy sword abuse and pretty universal, honestly I think electro traveler bennefits a lot from it Similarly evening star is great for a support ningguang while still retaining good dmg, then also units like Lisa full EM become so strong both supportive and dps wise. And Aquamarine makes Sayu, Kaveh, hybrid Razor, or EM diluc all become more viable while still passing up some support in the form of attack. For hyper raiden scarlet sands its soo good because on top of the EM and atk y because raiden gains an electro dmg bonus as well so you dont even need an elemental goblet but does require high artefact investment.
@nise49084
@nise49084 6 ай бұрын
cheveruse might just be a gamechanger for a overlord raiden team
@xupperkx
@xupperkx 6 ай бұрын
overlord🎉
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yeah Im very interested in trying Chevreuse! Should be able to test her with andwithout C6 on Polearms Only and my main account (assuming I can acquire C0 on my main account…)
@sittingcrowd912
@sittingcrowd912 6 ай бұрын
Until enemies get launched out of your ult
@nise49084
@nise49084 6 ай бұрын
@@sittingcrowd912 yea, but again for bosses and elite enemies it will be great
@nise49084
@nise49084 6 ай бұрын
@@SolunerraGreat!! looking forward to your upcoming videos.
@Vern7
@Vern7 6 ай бұрын
Ooou I’m early. With low er wouldn’t marechausee be better than emblem, and you can stack crit damage on artifacts or swap to Homa ?
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
ER is more of an issue on MH, I like emblem for the ER, but MH would be an easier build path potentially if you are fine being restricted to Furina and chasing a bit more ER substats. I like not being restricted to Furina largely so I can use her elsewhere if wanted. I thought I showed Homa in the artifact section and how it makes balancing your stats really hard to impossible, but checkout the cut segment linked in the description if you want more numbers illustrating that. The strength of SoSS is in its EM conversion enabling a build path that is much more realistic to achieve by doubling dipping on the value. Increasing Raidens atk does far more work than you might expect
@Vern7
@Vern7 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra yeah I commented that before you reached the homa segment. I don’t own Soss, so I was hoping I could recreate this with homage. Great video btw
@treeleven3316
@treeleven3316 6 ай бұрын
Dang was sort of excited to see what could fix my c0 raiden issues and it’s a limited 5* weapon. Prior to dendro, the team I was running with raiden that I thought was the most fun was an electro-charge team of yelan/XQ with kuki and raiden, not the most damage but it felt good to play. I think now maybe a team like raiden furina yelan and maybe Jean or something is pretty strong (need to fix my Jean to test for myself).
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yeah a lot of people seem to like the Furina/Yelan/Jean team. I think it's a perfectly fine team, but doesn't really uniquely utilize Raiden that much. There is definitely a reason I put an asterisk in the thumbnail lol. Wish I had a better solution, but I find hybrid raiden to be so much worse without SoSS that it just isnt even a comparable experience.
@shockdoggo6889
@shockdoggo6889 6 ай бұрын
Quickbloom my beloved
@aweblade4
@aweblade4 6 ай бұрын
Good Video
@manga.manhwa.manhua
@manga.manhwa.manhua 6 ай бұрын
Now a days always a furina character in the coop
@RipVonGraves
@RipVonGraves 6 ай бұрын
The SoSS sitting in my inventory at lvl 20 *MY TIME HAS COME*
@jaydenmotley7915
@jaydenmotley7915 6 ай бұрын
He didn't mention that the catchs passive is burst DMG bouns on her alt
@tonydai782
@tonydai782 6 ай бұрын
At C0, you can replace Sara for Fischl in her hyper team and it's better.
@juggernaut6666
@juggernaut6666 6 ай бұрын
I know you haven't activated it but since you have c2 furina. That first team would probably do way more damage if you focused on nahida. Give nahida gilded, raiden full em deepwood and furina the key of khaj and triple hp. You could still on field raiden to battery furina. While getting 40k+ hyperblooms. And nahida will probably be hitting ridiculous damage. Since it is a very rare team that fully benefits from nahidas c1, which is usually not very useful.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yeah that is something you could do, but Nahida is honestly too strong as it is
@Nerdslayer0
@Nerdslayer0 6 ай бұрын
Great video. I love pushing for new and creative teams. I feel like the control for Raiden national should have also had furina instead of xingqiu for comparisons sake though, since furinas buff made up so much of raiden's up front damage
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Thats fair, but my thinking was showing the most common National variation as a baseline more than anything. It was meant to be a control test to vaguely compare the various hybrid variations I showed, not as a “look how bad national is” test
@moderatelysavage4071
@moderatelysavage4071 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra That is unfortunate, cause the whole video came across as "Look how bad national teams are" and "look how bad carry Raiden is"
@creamyisdead
@creamyisdead 6 ай бұрын
I know Bennet burst + kazuha burst soup team is not particularly popular because electrocharged is kinda stinky, but in my experiance the fun and sillyness of it is worth the crowd control
@avancer2423
@avancer2423 6 ай бұрын
As an low spender that bought 3 welkins and 2 battle passes and stopped spending money I will go through hell and try to win my 50/50 on Raiden and the 25/75(Is that the right chance on weapon banner?) and I will hate myself Edit: Correction I hate my luck since my ayaka her signature at 10 pity when I was building it a little for Raidens weapon
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Best of luck. Weapon banner 25/75 is referring to the 25% chance for a standard banner weapon and a 75% chance for one of the featured weapons. So at a baseline youd have a 25% chance for a standard weapon and a 37.5% chance for each featured 5 star weapon when you get your first five star. If you lose the 25/75, your next five star weapon is guaranteed to be ONE of the two featured banner weapons. Aka lose the 25/75 and your next 5 star weapon is a 50/50, and then of course if you lose again then it is guaranteed through the path system. This is why the banner feels like crap to wish on btw, but as I said in the video, it is functionally about as difficult to get a specific five star weapon as it is a specific five star limited character
@moderatelysavage4071
@moderatelysavage4071 6 ай бұрын
Don't pull on weapon banners, what Solunerra forgot to mention is the Epitomized path pity doesn't stick around for the next weapon banner, meaning you need to save up 240 wishes to guarantee getting the weapon you want.
@avancer2423
@avancer2423 6 ай бұрын
@@moderatelysavage4071 I said I'm f2p not an idiot
@Hoodiehanzo_
@Hoodiehanzo_ 6 ай бұрын
I think you can do it with the bp weapon the new bp polearm because you get em and crit rate
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
From calcs I did is generally substantially worse once you factor in different artifacts needed (depending on team it was anywhere from 50-80% worse for Raidens talent damage, which is an enormous difference in Genshin), but it will depend on your quality of artifacts available. SoSS makes balancing your stats much easier such that you can get a functional hybrid build without needing insane artifacts
@lionearth3190
@lionearth3190 6 ай бұрын
I tried the normal hypercarry ER/ATK/CRIT build with EoSF+Engulfing with Nahida/Furina/Baizhu. I can't be bothererd changing my artifacts. It works on Abyss, and as long as I can 36 stars it I guess it's fine? I change to Keqing or Yae if things get tight. I just play casually xD. I have SoSS lvl. 60 and maybe I will try your build someday.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yeah if you enjoy normal raiden builds in teams where that makes sense its not really that necessary to change. I never did though
@justchica3243
@justchica3243 6 ай бұрын
This is very niche but C0 Raiden also has a team with eula/raiden/furina/mika which I heard is actually decently good
@moderatelysavage4071
@moderatelysavage4071 6 ай бұрын
That is a great Eula team, but not one of Raidens best teams.
@SnipeOSRS
@SnipeOSRS 6 ай бұрын
Three things. First, I commend you for putting a lot of effort into the video, it clearly shows with the formatting and all, nice. Second, I personally would still recommend EL instead. Comparing SoSS to EL you get roughly the same amount of stats, just distributed in different places. EL is also more flexible across Raiden teams as it can be used in hyper, rational, etc, not just dendro variants, not to mention the increased comfort you get from having those stats in ER rather than in crit (The attack difference is roughly the same, it's crit rate vs ER for SoSS and EL, essentially.) Third, it's a long video so I might have missed it, but a sneaky and frankly bullshit thing to have to note is that things like sucrose EM share, and nahida EM share WILL NOT improve SoSS, only flat unchanging EM buffs will, like c2 kazuha or elegy. If you make a video extolling the virtues of SoSS, (which is a very underrated weapon to be fair), you gotta mention this, because it's almost borderline scam territory for hoyoverse to be hiding these kinds of interactions unless you're specifically looking for it.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Regarding Engulfing, I do not like it on a hybrid build (I have tried on another account with it) because finding a stat balance is way harder. It will depend on the pieces you have, but crit stats are much rarer stats to get on artifacts, and energy needs is something you can mitigate by nature of team composition (fav weapons and teammates) on top of it being a more common substat than crit. The 44.1% crit rate from SoSS goes a looong way to actually balancing a weird build like this in conjunction with the EM conversion. Personally I think I could only recommend engulfing with 4 piece MH, but then you are tying Hybrid Raiden to Furina, which I dislike Regarding the EM thing with SoSS, I will look into it a bit more
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 6 ай бұрын
Personally, not a huge fan of using Fav weapons everywhere. That just guts the damage of the rest of the team, and one of the bigger perks of Raiden's kit is that she is the universal battery. If you have to battery the battery, something might be wrong with the team composition ;) That said, it is definitely an issue that Raiden is always chasing so many stats, and therefore wants much more investment than many other characters. And that's on top of wanting C2. When she was released, that C2 was something equated to C6s, but these days, if that was part of C0 kit, she'd feel right at home among the current DPS.
@tincht
@tincht 6 ай бұрын
i randomly pulled staff of scarlet sands one day by complete accident and the same way i pulled by accident C1 on Raiden (while trying to get Sara’s constellations. i still have Sara C0 to this day lol). I put scarlet sands on Xiangling without giving it too much thought and i was saving for C2 Raiden to take advantage of this previous C1 random luck. but it never occurred to me to use her with scarlet sands actually. Now after watching your video I’m thinking if I should build my (hopefully) future C2 Raiden with scarlet sands. Is it worth it? Or will Raiden C2 work better with primordial jade winged spear?
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
If you are using her hybrid like I am, absolutely use SoSS, but for a traditional build Jade vs SoSS are both just different stat sticks. I'd still probably prefer SoSS as a generic stat stick even though.
@Krypse_
@Krypse_ 6 ай бұрын
Ok so I've been using that last team for some months now, even pulled up to C6 Furina so they could self sustain, and I'd say this is the most fun team I've ever tried in this game! However as a side note, a well built and invested Instructor Yaoyao can replace Nahida if your Furina isn't C6 and still get similar results. Plus you get to jump and run around for a couple of seconds every rotation! Overall pretty fun experience, would recommend this team if you have the stuff for it.
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 6 ай бұрын
Just wanna say that you were not getting Sara's E buff tho The rotation should be Raiden's E>Kazuha's EQ>Bennett's EQ>Sara's ECAQ(or just Q if youre lazy)>Raiden's Q then battery ppl after the 7s I believe it would have reached 200k but Im not sure.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yeah Ive figured that out after playing Sara a bit more, overall though I honestly think shes kinda awkward to use. Will add a pinned comment soon with some further thoughts
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra funny how to me shooting her charged atk without getting hit is the most dopamine moment of this team lol I love just just finding the free miliseconds after Kazuha staggers enemies so she can attack mostly safe. Im kinda biased to say its a good gameplay cuz I like Sara but Im not gonna do that cuz I still think her c2 should have been a talent at c0.
@JamesAnderson-wi6rh
@JamesAnderson-wi6rh 6 ай бұрын
I have a c3 Raiden, which is roughly a 62 percent damage boost. With my hypercarry set-up, she'd still be doing about 350 on primary slash and then 60k additionals. For a c0 unit, I'd say that's completely fair. Hypercarry is still definitely a good c0 strategy.
@kingwill1623
@kingwill1623 6 ай бұрын
My c3 raiden is doing 610k on primary slash and 110k on charge attacks what supports are you using and what do you got on them?
@tonydai782
@tonydai782 6 ай бұрын
5:19 Obviously. You only get Bennett buff in National while you're getting Bennett buff + Aggravate + Furina in the quickbloom team. Rational is more of a Xiangling overvape team than a team focused on Raiden's damage.
@MimeeVideos
@MimeeVideos 6 ай бұрын
You got c2 Nahida, of course everything bloom or just dendro related with her is gonna be stonks
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Hybrid Raiden works fine without Nahida. Nahida C2 is about a 15% dmg upgrade for Raidens damage, which is significant. As with basically any Dendro team Nahida is quite valuable to have, C2 or not, but there are reasons to not use Nahida too.
@wellwellwell881
@wellwellwell881 6 ай бұрын
I did the same exact thing. Got Cyno's weapon while going for Nilou's and was annoyed at the time, but now I just want another 5* spear so I stop swapping it between her and Hu Tao.
@Vickyshoka
@Vickyshoka 6 ай бұрын
I have both homa and cynos weapon and I would recommend waiting for that homa C: until that use deathmatch or dragons bane i'm not kidding when I say dragons bane was almost as good as homa. 10-20k difference (vapo, melt)
@wellwellwell881
@wellwellwell881 6 ай бұрын
@@Vickyshoka Currently using an r2 jade spear as a replacement in the times where I forget to swap the weapons. Not sure if dragonsbane would be better, but I don't have the artifacts to change my build for that setup. Trying to farm Navia's set before I go back to MH/GT domain, so it'll be a while until I get the optimal setup to replace a crit rate weapon.
@Vickyshoka
@Vickyshoka 6 ай бұрын
@@wellwellwell881 I recommend jade spear for raiden! Bc of the atk bonus
@wellwellwell881
@wellwellwell881 6 ай бұрын
@@Vickyshoka Not for hybrid build. SoSS is superior for hybrid. Jade spear is decent for the normal build. This is why I swap a lot. Hu Tao is way better with SoSS than the jade spear, but it's not horrible if I forget to swap lol. And I have tried both on Raiden with the hybrid, but they end up having similar attack stats, but SoSS crit rate makes it better.
@Vickyshoka
@Vickyshoka 6 ай бұрын
@@wellwellwell881 I mean yeah for hybrid and I also just prefer soss on my raiden even if I had jade spear xd but still suggest waiting for that homa hu tao deserves it C:
@Chi.A4
@Chi.A4 6 ай бұрын
11:43 im not sure if this is 100% true but im pretty sure that dmc’s dendro application doesn’t actually increase bc of ICD. So electro will only increase her personal damage which isnt that high Didnt know it also increased electro dmg, mb
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
I did actually know this, so Im not sure why my dumb arse brain said it at that moment lol. The dendro bonus is only 12%, but it’s noticeable. Depending on the situation you may want the better range from hitting it with hydro instead of course
@sziken9863
@sziken9863 6 ай бұрын
Try playing Raiden with Furina Yelan and Jean It's constant bursts It's fun
@clarapomegranate7179
@clarapomegranate7179 6 ай бұрын
Literally just replace Jean with Baizhu or YaoYao and that team is infinitely better
@jojoman4223
@jojoman4223 6 ай бұрын
@@clarapomegranate7179absolutely not lmao
@clarapomegranate7179
@clarapomegranate7179 6 ай бұрын
@@jojoman4223 vv shred isn't as impactful towards team dps in hybrid Raiden teams as the hyperbloom and aggravate procs will be plus Baizhu and YaoYao are far better units in general than Jean
@clarapomegranate7179
@clarapomegranate7179 6 ай бұрын
Plus getting a double swirl is needed to make Jean worth it in that spot and that's just a headache to get electro to swirl in a team with Furina and Yelan it's not worth the hassle especially when adding a dendro healer is just the better option for the team as a whole. You're just wrong if you're trying to say it's optimal. Jean will work but you lose out on much more most people have at least a c0 YaoYao.
@moderatelysavage4071
@moderatelysavage4071 6 ай бұрын
@@clarapomegranate7179 That is some top tier copium you're huffing over there.
@jonathan0225
@jonathan0225 6 ай бұрын
I agree that flexibility is important. However, 2 things to consider: Costs, (1) On Average, the odds on getting SoSS vs raiden's c2 is much worse. (2) the damage ceiling is much better on the constellation than the SoSS weapon. but this lets go of her best ER/dmg utility for a relatively flat DMG (that said, EM raiden, did raise the damage floor). in summary, while C0 Raiden is solid for hyperbloom, Raiden's best utility/strength is imparting ER to the whole team when she bursts (if and when she's using Emblem set and the catch). i only argued that it might have been better getting the c2 is because you have SoSS in the mix.
@Daivd1111
@Daivd1111 6 ай бұрын
11:34 I don't really see the point, you swapped xiangling with DMC and get similar damage(you said yourself), but xiangling without bennet is meh(not really saving her for the other team), also you need a 5 star weapon rather than the free 'catch' weapon.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
The point is the team options and the extra transformative reaction dmg. IIRC I say as much in the video that not every Hybrid Raiden team is going to outperform national or anything. That is honestly silly to even try to argue, as its friggin National lol. This whole video is meant to illustrate the flexibility you can have with SoSS on Raiden with a hybrid build, allowing for vastly more competent team options that utilize her burst playstyle. Yeah, getting a 5 star weapon can suck, but I talk about that in the video too. Trying to do this build on Raiden aint for everyone, but I think if you really like Raidens carry playstyle it is a more fun one to invest into
@Daivd1111
@Daivd1111 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra If your point is you found another way to play her without sacrificing damage, then your title and thumbnail are just clickbait and false. It says 'I fixed her biggest flaw'. But as you said in the reply 'honestly silly to even try to argue, as its friggin National'. So what is it? What did you even fix?
@cresentj
@cresentj 6 ай бұрын
pretty much how i use dehya and yae miko. If a character can use hyperbloom or burgeon while also doing their own strong personal damage, then i build them hybrid. my dehyas skill hits between 40-80k per proc (depending on buff) in an AOE with a mix of pyro 30-50k and dendro 11-15k and her burst hits 25k pyro punches + burgeon 11-15k burgeons. And that's with furina and baizhu, leaving the 4th slot open for whatever i feel like. Flexibility is the true endgame of genshin.
@JustS0meNO0b
@JustS0meNO0b 6 ай бұрын
brooo..... I literally just pulled raiden, yoimia, and both their weapons. and now I feel like both weapons were a waste...
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
You can get use out of Raiden without doing hybrid Raiden on SoSS (Ive just never enjoyed traditional raiden teams), and engulfing is probably still Hybrid Raidens second best weapon still. It just offers her much less team versatility (or significantly higher artifact investment to balance her stats), which is why Id didnt go much into other weapons this video, as my main goal was to illustrate the number of team variations hybrid Raiden functions in. In your case if you want to do Hybrid Raiden on engulfing, the easiest path is doing 4pc Marechausee Hunters with EM/EM/CRIT for artifacts, then try to maximize the crit/em/atk%/er you get in substats. Since you dont have the crit rate from SoSS you are looking for primarily the more rare substats (crit, and specifically crit on em mainstats), which is what I dislike about Engulfing Hybrid Raiden. And then if using this artifact set you also need to either use Furina for her drain, or potential Bennett C6 because Burgeon self dmg can work, though that is a bit harder to play (and requiring either is restricting team versatility as mentioned before).
@Daivd1111
@Daivd1111 6 ай бұрын
5:14 I think the reason you see more talent damage is because Furina's buff, which is why you cleared faster than Raidenational. Furina opens new play style because she is goated, but you technically didn't prove anything, if you swap xingqiu with Furina, you get the same result.
@KrisPBacon69
@KrisPBacon69 6 ай бұрын
Another reason is the weapon, in national team, Raiden was using a F2P weapon (the catch), and in the hybrid build staff of the scarlet sands (bis for that particular team) was used, along with c2 nahida being part of the team
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
I think you are missing the point. Im not saying every Hybrid Raiden variant is better than Rational. I showed a ton of different team variations for a reason. But Raiden with SoSS it enables crazily better team diversity for a carry Raiden playstyle, and I also find it far more fun to have a team utilizing Raidens kit this way. The first team I used is just probably the strongest hybrid Raiden variant I have used, so I started with it because big numbers fun
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
@KrisPBacon69 I dont have the BiS for every team variant, and the scope of this video was already too large, so I didnt want to get into showing different weapons too much. That build with the Catch showed a high invested Raiden National performance (played a bit poorly of course, but Raidens damage itself was not affected meaningfully), close to what most players would realistically be able to achieve with a good amount of farming on a normal C0 Raiden emblem build. And also, your comparison to calling weapons “BiS” ignores how absurd the difference is between different “BiS” weapons in different contexts (SoSS for hybrid Raiden and Engulfing for National is not the same). Engulfing Lightning is not crazily better than the Catch for Rational dmg. Its a notable improvement, but on the level of what most characters signature weapons are. Compared to SoSS, which when I did calculations for how big of a difference it is to other weapons, I found on the low end (when accounting for different build options youd need with different weapons) it was about 50% better, which is absurd. Thats why this video focuses on treating SoSS as necessary to this playstyle, because it is the most important factor to making quickbloom (hybrid) Raiden work as well as it does. You CAN do hybrid Raiden without SoSS, but it makes balancing her stats basically impossible, and also puts more onus on having specific teammates (Furina, for example) to functional well. Raiden National isnt literally 50% better with Engulfing Lightning, so its a false equivalency to treat it as the same by labeling both as “BiS”
@ravissary79
@ravissary79 6 ай бұрын
What are the individual top stats on your set? is it ER/EM/Crit%? are all subs essentially double crit with ER and EM or EM and Atk? Would this work equally well with gilded with Er/Er/crit? with heavy EM subs? I'm finding it pretty hard to get stats this good.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
I believe I have a chapter labeled for artifacts and talk about it quite a bit and show the specific pieces I have. Ultimately the balance would depend on your artifacts available and what you want to achieve. I like EM/EM/CDMG on 4pc emblem, but also run EM/EM/EM, and you just try to have a decent amount of Crit/ER/Atk%/EM substats. Especially dont undervalue atk% rolls. The circlet I used on Raiden had no crit substat and just 22% ER and one atk% roll, which is nearly perfect for the build.
@ravissary79
@ravissary79 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra yeah sorry initially in your showcase you mowed over your artifacts I couldn't see, and I tried skipping through but kept landing on the wrong thing. I eventually saw a few after posting this. Since I wrote that comment I tried it!!! It works!!! So well!!! I couldn't hit your numbers. It's so hard to get good emblem pieces. But i got: 1200 atk 396 em 190 er 90 critC 159 critD 4 piece emblem bonus. Em/em/critD. Still needs polish, but I just got all the way though spiral abyss with her, using her in this odd team: Alhaitham, furina, Noelle, Raiden. She couldn't Hyperbloom from her Q (because Alhaitham is selfish) and Noelles Q was hard to use, but otherwise it worked. Best Spiral I've done to date!
@ravissary79
@ravissary79 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra yours is the only Raiden guide build idea that actually solved my problem. Thank you!
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
@@ravissary79 Not too far off my numbers honestly. Your crit ratio is actually better than mine I think lol
@lostrefugee
@lostrefugee 6 ай бұрын
Raiden Furina Yelan Jean is better.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Its a decent team, so if its fun to you thats good, ultimately this is a game, do whats fun to you and if you enjoy the teams and they clear content thats all it needs to be. But to keep it simple Im pretty sure Furina/Yelan/Fischl/Jean would perform similarly or better than Raiden. With Raiden the team is largely just mono hydro but Raiden offers some energy refunding (which Fischl also functionally does by generating a ton of energy particles, plus she enables more flexibility for on field units, like Sayu rolly polly things). Its a decent way to get value out of Raiden, but also is more similar to mono hydro than it is to a hybrid team getting a ton of transformative reaction damage from Raidens kit
@AngryLad_80
@AngryLad_80 6 ай бұрын
that's all cool, but couldn't you make this video 2 weeks ago 😭
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
It took a lot of farming and other prep to make this video, so I honestly just wasn’t able to get this video out beforehand. Some of the artifacts I used on Raiden I literally got this week. I didn’t want to rush it, and also didn’t want people to just throw away wishes on the weapon banner last minute because of one video. By making it now anyone who wants to try to get SoSS likely has the time to save up enough wishes to get it for her.
@AngryLad_80
@AngryLad_80 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra I do get yout point. always prefer quality over rushed vids. But still, if we knew this during the cyno banner some of us would've tried out luck considering the weapon banner was actually good
@RyuuAF
@RyuuAF 6 ай бұрын
My raiden has always been c0 and I don't use hyperbloom bcus i have kuki for that and hyperbloom raiden is less fun for me. I was never bothered with raiden's dmg at c0 bcus the dmg needed to clear abyss isn't nearly as high as the dmg ceiling so to me, c2/c3 is unnecessary. I really just use random teams in the abyss since it doesn't really matter tbh. My philosophy is if the team clears abyss then it's good enough for me regardless of the clear time. I've contemplated getting engulfing lightning tho, but new characters always grab my attention lol.
@rajmallick4281
@rajmallick4281 6 ай бұрын
use noblese on xingque and instructor on bennet
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
I dont think I really have relevant enough crit noblesse pieces for XQ but yeah that would be better for national
@eskrest
@eskrest 6 ай бұрын
I’m kinda conflicted. I was about to pull Raiden, I like har character, she’s cool. But I’ve go to play with her in this event, and I didn’t like her playstyle. I also tried out Yoimia and kinda liked her more. But Yoimia has her own issues, and I don’t have a shielder nor Bennett. She’s also dependent on Xingqiu. So maybe it’s better to skip both of them even though they have their strengths. Or just throw a few pulls to test my luck with getting Bennett. But Xiao will be up soon so I’d better save my pulls, considering the fact that I don’t even have a weapon for him, and my Faruzan is at C2.
@natonaa9681
@natonaa9681 6 ай бұрын
If you don't like a character's playstyle then do not pull for them, because you're not gonna have a fun experience playing them (unless all you care about is damage). I personally am in a very similar situation, also regarding yoimiya and i decided to not pull on any of those characters. If you like xiao's playstyle and design i think you should for sure save for him than go for characters you wouldn't find attractive on your account. Good luck!
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
I honestly think she is very unnecessary to get, outside of not having Kuki for Hyperbloom or specifically because you Raiden has a number of strengths over Kuki in hyperbloom (with the one downside of not being a healer). So ultimately this video is meant to be for anyone wanting to get more value out of their Raiden, not as a recommendation to pull her
@eskrest
@eskrest 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra oh sorry I didn’t mean it like you recommending to pull her
@theunicyclist35
@theunicyclist35 6 ай бұрын
Did you pull for Navia? I was split between the two characters this patch for a long time
@eskrest
@eskrest 6 ай бұрын
@@theunicyclist35 no, I’m saving at the moment. I don’t play geo at all so it was an easy choice for me
@tomekpiatek88
@tomekpiatek88 6 ай бұрын
There is another good team fir C0 Raiden. Raiden, Furina, plus pick two: Bnnet/Yelan/Jean. No need for a five star weapon.
@Soshiky
@Soshiky 6 ай бұрын
I got bennet but i dont like him ... he is c5 but not to comfi like kuki
@Ysldolll
@Ysldolll 6 ай бұрын
i didnt like c0 either, so i pulled c6 r5 LOL
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Thats one way to fix her lol
@bombyxtau
@bombyxtau 6 ай бұрын
i pulled for cyno and scarlet sands way back on his first banner (got really lucky with soss at like 10~20 pity iirc) ...... ended up not liking cyno at all and soss has been glued to my raiden ever since. its a really nice. 👍
@aashishsingh6295
@aashishsingh6295 6 ай бұрын
With a level 70 xingchou and avg. Artifact on other than raiden, he did near about the same damage as c2 nahida with furina and saying raiden national is not good enough. Are you serious dude.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
National was meant as a control baseline to compare the many variants of hybrid raiden to, not as a “national is bad” The point is the team diversity it allows for a carry Raiden playstyle that in my opinion truly makes the most out of Raidens kit and therefore is most fun to me
@Vickyshoka
@Vickyshoka 6 ай бұрын
Woah there are many comments and opinions in this video so i might aswell join in xd so as someone who used raiden since yae miko came out i have tried a ton of teams with her! And actually (although i'm not taking credit from sol) but i was the first to mention soss on raiden. I have a top 5% raiden and i have been using soss for a long time before that i used catch which always worked great but it didn't had that power like my soss. Now first i'm not going to say that oh everyone can do this much dmg i farmed alot of emblem i know it's pain and i'm not hating on sol with these opinions (although i do think he was passive aggresive towards raiden before he built her like this and i love how he made her work for the way he wants to play her) now let's talk national! I honestly love that team, it made me realize maybe xiangling ain't that bad lol anyway although it's my most used team the first team she was in was with keqing and kokomi for an electro charged team which was at that time meta. And i think with yelan, furina, jean that kinda came back. I honestly enjoy national with raiden and kazuha the most maybe kokomi why bc it feels like soup with that many reaction c: but i won't bash anyone for not enjoying but personly i enjoy national more than the big burst raiden team with kazuha,bennett and either sara or mona used them both and they both did great the last time I tried it with mona I did 240k on her burst and 45k charged burst atk so it's def a powerfull team. Honestly sara feels akward especially in abbys but mine ain't c6 so she isn't even at max potential i will comeback once i get her c6 when raidens out xd. Anyway dendro didn't changed her as much i thought it would other than the 1000 em raidens which to this day curse me cus kuki is a much better option (bc you don't have to atk with her to apply electro) but i used raiden with nahida, yelan, haithem, dendro mc, kokomi, miko, kuki, kazuha, venti and honestly a full archon team before furina was already cracked a deleting enemys with raiden and nahida from afar was soooo fun. If I do use raiden in an aggrevate team i don't use her as dps a dendro dps just preforms better like alhaitham or nahida and a two dendro electro team feels like cheating honestly you have heals with kuki full electro with raiden nahida as sub dps and haithem as main and theres no energy issues which is why raiden is the best team mate for eula, although i lost my 50)50 on eulas banner i still think it's one of the best options for her bc eula and raiden have a great synergy and just put kokomi and rosaria in a team or mika😒 and you got a killer phys team with no energy issues once again. I stand by statment and say that every archon was meant as a sub dps bc their synergy is too good in almost any team you put them in. I can't wait for chevruse and to play more overload teams cus i honestly see raiden and yoimiya the best for those teams. I also want to mention coop raiden cus back in the day my best duo was kokomi and raiden constant dmg, burst, heal and for low player worlds they hit like a truck even if i did nothing (best afk team at that time) i also want to say catch is just too great so don't be lazy farm it c: yeah now my build: 73-196 crit ratio 105+em depending on team 1550 base atk but converting em or giving atk boost i have seen 2500-3200 i use er sands, electro goblet and crit dmg hat (with 83 em lol) so i have 235 er or something like that and with two electro, or xiphos on kazuha that's also boosted to around 250% and bc of goblet 100% electro dmg and with kazuha i belive it's around 125% but honestly a team will make her shine like the Queen she is. I do want an em goblet someday with ton of er and crit dmg. But other wise i'm happy with this emblem build and i'm happy how at first i was like i have no fischl i want double electro so i will pull raiden cus archon and now she's my best built unit and between my nahida, hu tao, yoimiya and haithem she does the most dmg even if she isn't played as a dps but more like a carry, thanks if you read my ted talk c: Also you don't need c2 my c0 does a ton you just need love and effort c: you also don't need any weapon or team mate most four starts work great with her!!! Some more numbers: aggrevate raiden in a team with zhongli, venti, nahida I usually do 83k in raiden national it's between 180-220k for pure burst last time I did 240k but will test with C6 sara the most skill dmg I have done has been between 10-15k and the most for a charged atk in burst mode was around 45k her burst is crowned her skill is 9 and bennett, xiangling, yelan and xingqiu all has crowned burst and the four starts all c6 with bennett having his bis 5star weapon the aquilla favonia? Blue sword xd and nahida also has an r2 of her signature weapon kazuha has xiphos and she herself has a 5star weapon so take that into consideration
@Vickyshoka
@Vickyshoka 6 ай бұрын
Also if anybody wants to see my build i'm on eu I can give my uid and kekvin had a video with raiden builds in them and he reviewed it aswell but some of the pieces got small upgrades like my sands. Also if we are on the kekvin video I want to mention theres an er and atk treshold with raiden like 275+er with emblem won't give you more dmg nor at some point you don't need that much electro dmg. And after 3500 atk any atk buff will mean almost nothing so this type of hyper raiden has a room for all those buffs without them going too far like i've seen on many normal raidens with engulfing. Soss>>>>>>engulfing C:(my own opinion) but can't wait to one day get C2/c3 raiden to excperience the most potential of my raiden)
@Vickyshoka
@Vickyshoka 6 ай бұрын
Ahhhhhhhh I got C2 raiden so okay first we got C6 sara and we went from 240k to 270k and while getting C6 sara I got C1 raiden but that doesn't gives more dmg just easier stacks. Then I got C2 and I did 420k on just an overworld boss then I went to the scara boss fight and I did (with adaptus temptation and electro bonus potion) 650k which is mind bending for me cus it was just one normal rotation (my hu tao was my last biggest dmg with 530k and that had much more buffs and like changening the build of the full team and such) I used C6 sara, C6 bennett and c0 kazuha with xiphos and bennett was on aquilla favonia all them had standard build and artifacts but I love how even my benny did 65k burst and sara a 28k? Before raiden beat his son out of his god cosplay xdddd Conclusion C2? Worth it (for me) trying abbys next. Did I whale? Yes but just a little (around 82-85usd) and I only "whaled" 2/3 times now on my account so it's like a 100-120usd spent on whaling if I count the welkin and bp things probably a 150usd account over the spam of 3 years of playing dang. But yeah raiden good
@1414Meshal
@1414Meshal 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion as a c0 raiden main nothing beats hyper with sara, benny and kaz or raiden dbl hydro with yelan xinqiu and kaz in terms of simplicity. Very easy rotations and alot of front laoded dmg. There r other teams such as quicken and quickbloom which are fine but u have to keep changing ur artifacts everytime u switch and that is annoying. The furina teams look promising but the lack of cc makes them inconsistent in aoi. As per hyperbloom raiden it is a good team but is impossible to upgrade without c2 nahida where for other raiden teams u keep getting upgrades as u progress the game. I can clear faster with raiden if i dont play hyperbloom usually. Note i dont have nahida.
@vanshgadekar6123
@vanshgadekar6123 6 ай бұрын
Bro my friend's C0 Raiden does 220k+ dmg with hypercarry
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
To be clear, without my Nahida C2, I probably wouldve only gotten around 190k instead of 220k, so the general point was to illustrate the ability of a Raiden build like this to still be able to reach near hypercarry raiden levels of damage without having to do traditional hypercarry teams (which are worse because the damage is less diversified). Chevreuse has made Raiden teams on a traditional build feel much better to me too though. Raiden/XL/Chev/Sara C6 feels really good to me.
@Sirindilable
@Sirindilable 5 ай бұрын
I already solved all her problems with C3. Faster and Cheaper. And no need to mess with green goo.
@madh-3388
@madh-3388 6 ай бұрын
raiden furina yelan jean actual amazing team, try it kids
@hazard1one
@hazard1one 6 ай бұрын
eh idk ,my raiden was always on the emblem without changing stats even when i play her on aggravate/hyperbloom etc .Felt like the em provide by nahida is good enough and abyss kinda too easy for 36* anyway ,so it just about changing team playstyle .Maximising damage kinda overrated in genshin .
@N1CKczemN1CK
@N1CKczemN1CK 6 ай бұрын
Ar 60 is hell im really consider quit this game
@TerraTheWise
@TerraTheWise 6 ай бұрын
What about AR 60 is hell? All that’s left is to grind artifacts now and play at your own pace.
@N1CKczemN1CK
@N1CKczemN1CK 6 ай бұрын
@@TerraTheWise there is nothing to do, check in, making your dailys, 20 min abyss for 2 wekks
@moderatelysavage4071
@moderatelysavage4071 6 ай бұрын
The only bad thing about AR60 is the fact that there is no end game content.
@jamahldavis5078
@jamahldavis5078 6 ай бұрын
Despite what the passive says external em buffs out side of artifacts does not convert into bonus attk when using staff of scarlet sands
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Yes it does lol, you need to get external EM buffs going before triggering the passive though
@jamahldavis5078
@jamahldavis5078 6 ай бұрын
@@Solunerra yes I’m aware but I’ve gotten nahidas 250 em plus dendro resonance on top of the em from cynos burst and gilded and some substats and I’ve only gotten the attk from cynos burst, gilded dreams em, and the substats rolls mind u I have 720 em and should have about 2400 atkk but instead I only get about 2000.
@BlueShadesAll
@BlueShadesAll 6 ай бұрын
SoSS DOES NOT count "scaling" EMbuffs like nahida's EM buff...but it counts FLAT EM buffs like elegy proc, albedo passive, sucrose flat EM bonus... etc
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
@@BlueShadesAll Ty, researched this a bit and tested it a bit myself, thats my bad. I updated my pinned comment about it. Doesnt affect what was shown in game of course. Learn something every day lol.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
@@jamahldavis5078 ty, I looked into this a bit and you are right, my bad, updated my pinned comment about it. SoSS does convert external EM buffs, but not EM buffs that are percentage based like Nahida. Any set amount EM buffs DO work. This includes Instructors and notably Sapwood Blade, for example. Largely speaking I think it just makes Dendro traveler a bit better than I thought they were, relative to Nahida at least (Nahida has other very significant upsides still to be the strong team option generally though). And sucrose isnt as good as I had thought with her.
@zeer7676
@zeer7676 6 ай бұрын
why i'm glad I didn't pull raiden and plan on pulling for nahida instead. I'll use fish and kuki instead of her with hyperbloom.
@AckazeYT
@AckazeYT 6 ай бұрын
Hypercarry Raiden It requires Raiden E- Kazuha charged E: Burst Bennet E: Burst Sara Burst: E Raiden E: Burst Hope that helped ❤ If i had that crit rate mask i wouldn't have to deal with trashed CD main stat with barely any ER or CR🥲
@DHGcrimson
@DHGcrimson 6 ай бұрын
i thought raiden was just a support. i didnt know hyper carry raiden was a thing but im not an abyss player
@TerraTheWise
@TerraTheWise 6 ай бұрын
You don’t call a character whose main contribution to the team is damage a "support".
@jojoman4223
@jojoman4223 6 ай бұрын
@@TerraTheWiseyou definitely do. Characters like Xingqiu and Fischl also contribute to the overall damage but they are still called supports since they are sub dps characters. Sub dps still falls in the category of a support. There is a main dps and then there are supports which include sub dps, healer, shielder, etc
@TerraTheWise
@TerraTheWise 6 ай бұрын
@@jojoman4223 A sub dps is not a support. You are getting your terms confused. A sub dps like the name implies is a dps. They just don’t have field presence. It’s literally sub as in “substitute”.
@Geek3824
@Geek3824 6 ай бұрын
@@TerraTheWisenot to mention: the biggest damage contribution Raiden deals is from her burst which requires a not insignificant amount of field time from her. The debate about what role Raiden fits into has always confused me considering that, unless you’re running EM Raiden (or maybe even Tenacity idk lol) - her burst is the focus of her kit. She herself even has a dedicated support in the form of Sara. Idk of any other character in the game that can deal a lot of damage, is required to be on-field to do so, has their own support to buff them, yet their role is debated lol.
@Solunerra
@Solunerra 6 ай бұрын
Tbh if you dont care about abyss very little matter past knowing to put the right main stats on your artifacts lol
@kaigilgamesh4175
@kaigilgamesh4175 6 ай бұрын
I dont find funny play Raiden National as well, and I play raiden in diferent teams... one I preffer a lot, is Raiden, Furina, Yelan and Jean... the dmg is just, amazing, (my raiden is c0), and is just fun to play with all the hydro aplication, having both furina and yelan in the same team just make´s it better.
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