I would have no problem with that.

can we also have thunder marines?

Christian Brode That would be amazing.

the real deal would be finding xt70 mk II, widely used by native americans for fighting off colonists

otavio juba, just wait for t75x used by Chris Columbus himself

Durandol Nice

That was amazing XD

lol

Durandol lol

its armor not armour

Exactly, And you can see in alot of fallout lore that alot of equipment in general only spent a couple years (if that) in testing before being fielded due to the war looming, Hence why you can see such stupid looking gear in fallout- It was just slightly better than current so they used it, The XO-1 was probably the only time in recent that universes US military went "lets take our time with this" Then again, The US has the bradley so they might do that as is. (Im aware it was being developed since the 80's)

yeah X-01 just sound like a name you would slap on a prototype before giving it a proper name

Ahh so you're the guys blowing our money on the criminally mismanaged and unecessary (the F-22 is already king and that doesnt project to change soon) F-35 program. Give us billions in refunds so we can buy a fleet of A-10s and F-22s and we're good for a couple decades or more.

@@howdoin99 Actually yeah. We do stuff for the F-35, and frankly I couldn't agree more. All of this time and money went into developing an aircraft that doesn't even perform as well as it's predecessor, the F-22. And it's not just the cost of the parts themselves, but also all of the completely unnecessary requirements and regulations for parts that aren't even flight safety parts. Lower tier suppliers are so tied up in all of the red tape flowed down from the government and all of the big aerospace companies that we have no choice but to increase our prices just to cover all of the extra paperwork and engineering overhead. And that in turn makes the final cost of the craft inflate to ridiculous amounts. Even recently, a bunch of the big aerospace companies came together to develop yet another ISO spec that is supposed to standardize requirements across the aerospace industry. And yet again each company is going to have their own requirements above and beyond that spec, effectively making it useless. The whole aerospace industry is out of control. Edit: it was an AS spec, not an ISO spec, but the point is still the same.

Actually is likely that T-60 is a custom kit for the T-45d, it was probally called as T-48 due to be a upgrade for the T-45 in use, it saw minor action at Anchorage but is widely used by American Troops on Cuba, Chinesse Assault and support allies groups on Asia before the nuclear war, the T-60 was also used by the Encçave before they have the schematics of the many X-01 & upgrade them.

Butters Scotch you can use a glitch with a power armor

They fixed it

@@derek8685 you can open the console commands and type in tcl and walk right trough the glass

I hate when they do this stuff...show u amazing items but say u cant have them it bugs the mess outta me lol

Rip physics

In response to us complaining about no XO1 power armor skins

I think that's exactly what went down at the Bethesda Fallout 4 Office. Intern 1:"Dammit!" Intern 2:"What, Jon?" Intern 1:"I was just looking at the Fanmail we've been getting sent in the Company Email, and i've been seeing a large number of comments concerning the X-01 Power Armor." Intern 2:"What's wrong? Another Bug?" Intern 1:"No, no. It's that we've been giving all the other Suits of Power Armor custom Skins, while the X-01 only has Institute! The X-01 isn't even affiliated with The Institute!" Intern 2:"So what, they want us to make a new Custom Skin for only X-01?" Intern 1:"Yeah! Exactly!" Intern 2:"Well, i've got this T-51 Custom Skin for the Star Control going along really nicely, how are we goin-" Intern 1:"Make that Quantum Skin for the X-01!"

Seems Accurate.

I agree completely. They probably stuck it in their without thinking about it.

Intern 2:"Well what are we going to do with the T51 it took me a long time to think about it that paint job," Intern 1:"Just give it another Nuka-Cola paint job." Intern 2:"How about another Nuka-Cola paint job," Intern 1:"Hey that sounds like a good idea!"

Yeah that's why i like this new system alot more than in F3 and NV where you just put it on and forget it and this makes power armor feel more important than just "armor"

Too op s an understatement

I completely agree. It's like piloting a one man tank.

Nihulistic99th I mean, it's meant to be effective, not look good.

Agreed. It feels infinitely more powerful and fun to use in Fallout 4 than in other FO games. Not to mention you don't have the silly pip-boy sticking out like in previous games.

T 45 was most mass produced t 51 was a limited amount

I recall spotting t50 power armor in the anchorage dlc when you go into that simulation pod to fight in alaska but i could be wrong

You mean at the end of Operation Anchorage.

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Yes they used those to drive them out of anchorage

Interesting find ngl

so The X-01 can be found in Boston because the president was involved there? did any fallout game even name the president during 2077? or even the Vice?

in FO76 there are secret service agents and they have T-65 power armor plans instead of X-01 maybe that is why X-01 stayed as Prototype until enclaves actually used it?

@@user-ce7in4zz3n that's a good explanation!

I do not know if the variants matter, but for the X-01 MKIV, It explicitly said Post War, perhaps Bethesda changed the description.

Ethan Thompson after personally looking through the Whitespring bunker I can confidently say that the X-01 did exist prewar and as the loading screen says it’s series was used by remnants of the government I know that in some occasions the word “ series” may also include the “X” model and it is highly likely that the enclave designated as upgraded and maybe a redesign of the X-01 power armor

@@coolminecraft1457 well in a loading screen for Fallout 4 it says "The X-01 series of Power Armor was specially engineered and employed by remnants of the U.S. military after the Great War, and offers increased protection over the older, pre-war models."

I think the T denoting power armor stands for “Titan”.

@@canadianbluepants9446 engineering could just mean updating the power armor blueprint and making it fully functional, and the quantum special varient was finished early by the nuka cientists

It's just a name

Guess the lore can be a bit confusing first.

It could also be the result of the US military just giving the T-45 series a final gasp by means of refurbishing, before its eventual retirement. It's already done extensively. A good example is the M16, heavy and outdated, but it's still in use, mainly because they still work. They get upgrades, but its slowly being phased out. While the X-01 is being tested, why not fix the kinks and problems they knew the t45 had? It would also make sense that it would be used by soldiers working domestically, as the Guard and Reserves are usually given the older equipment

Someone who understands how military contracting works. Also, another possibility, is the T-60 is simply an improvement on the T-45 series, in a similar fashion to how the M1A2 Main Battle Tank is, at a glance, a copy of the M1A1 Abrams. Given the similarities between T45 and T60, manufacturing and retooling would be much faster, while a full R&D cycle on the X01 (Likely to become the T-71) was conducted. As for the Loading screen, this could just be a grammatical error too "Specially Engineered, the X01 Power Armor was employed by remnants of the US Army..." A single comma ch anges the entire context of the sentence.

I would also think that the X-01 was more expensive therefore they just upgraded the T-45 as they would have alot more of those suits to work with

Thats actually a good theroy! But that wouldnt explain why theres so much X-01 in the Commonwealth and in West Viginia. Maybe it was massed produced but was for Black ops missions meaning it was more scarce. Or considering its design it could of been a Juggernaut suit which explains the Expense of repairing and maintaining it, its armor is incredibly thick, aswell as the huge neck guard.

Doesnt 76 work with his explanation, since you can get the plans for the XO1 in a prewar Terminal?

Fallout 76 is not cannon because its dogshit

I'm pretty well expecting Fallout 76 isn't gonna be considered canon

@@joemonkey18 its better than FO4, FO4 felt bland and boring, rather have a canon 76 than 4

@@joemonkey18 and never should be!

It’s like finding an old XM-18 “wow this is neato, super high tech”

SCAR-L and SCAR-H irl

Kenneth Wong Probably is the true reason. lmao

godzilla691138MW3 From what I've read, essentially almost no one from the original FO3 team is there anymore, same for Obsidian's NV team. I forgot what interview it was but they even said it when they were talking about FO5 New Orleans that anyone that was working at Beth on the FO team when Fo5 was in concept stages no longer works there. At this point, I fully expect them to not respect the lore.

"When F05 was in concept stage". Wouldn't that be like now?

in fallout 5 we introduce the T-78 made on October 23,2077

General Tullius you? i thought you were dead? eh are you in sovengarde ;)

The Red Menace you know that’s not half bad of an explanation

No wonder t45 looks so similar to t60

That's how I always thought it went

I was thinking along the same lines!

Dude, I know I am late and all, but holy crap that is a good explanation

1337!!!ELITE!!!

No they sign what they want a ceartin time frame then they may reactive funds to help but the us will hire many companies and sign contracts to

Judging from repair costs, I can see why.

Lol love the time stamp

Your correct in 76 the xo1 is an experiment

i think the true answer, these suits were on the verge of being released when the bombs fell, and john caleb bradberton had a few sent to him for this purpose, 1 at the power station for defense, and one at star command for display, because honestly no one knew the bombs were coming.

I agree and never got the T designation cause it never went through acceptance trials. An alternative theory would be that X-01 was special forces unit while the T-60 was meant for general deployment to power armor units to replace T-45 and T-51 power armor

@Blue Kiddo or that it's just simply an earlier iteration of the armor, there isn't always just one prototype

​​@@BluexKiddoBecause it was a prototype. But prototype wasn't literally in its name. They're just calling it that because that's what it was.

*facepalm* That part is when war started...

Isn't that exactly what Wyvernblue said?

Wyvernblue it's odd tho as when you leave the vault there is only like 3-4 bodies none of which are encased in power armour or have any indication that they were in power armour at any point.

crazynitwit well 200+ years past..

The power armor is strong they might have survived and walked away

agreed

i agreed to ilovefanservice

just because they retconn lore doesn't mean they don't care...that argument is so dense. Retconns happen in almost every franchise.

But not to this extent with the release of one entry in the series. Power Armour lore is completely fucked at this point, seeing as Power Armour represents Fallout's image; 1. vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/d/d1/Boxart.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20050209002312 2. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/PC_Game_Fallout_2.jpg Tactics. www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/6256-fallout-tactics-brotherhood-of-steel-windows-front-cover.jpg Pen and Paper. vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/3/31/D20_final.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20061211012109 3. vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/8/86/Fallout3_Cover_Art_PC.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150327224156 4.glitchsgr.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/fallout4_pc_boxfront-ee-01_1433339890.png?w=730&h=1024 Bethesda doesn't care about the franchise, you'd be blind to not see it. This is just because of lore misconceptions, the RPG element got tossed like a salad, the DLC was shit, Automatron was the only one that felt like it brought something new, FH was Point Lookout but Fallout 4'd meaning it was full of potential, but failed to live up to it and Nuka World was two dimensional. Obsidian made a better game in 18 months than Bethesda made in 7 years.

At this point I agree in a general sense. Bethesda is just milking the franchise. Craps given = zero. The story in this one and the after ending was horrid. And any time a franchise starts relying on the old troupe of 'Nazis' (Maxson's Brotherhood of Steel) in a game it gets tiring fast. Crazy thing is with Skyrim they started doing that as well. The question is if they just end up taking the Thalmor too far.

Most likely, the Brotherhood found schematics of T 60 but not for the X O1. And if X O1 is a prototype that wasn't put into mass production before the bombs dropped, the schematics would most likely be in one particular spot or building

The t60 is far easier to repair. and it doesn't cost nearly as much. it's less advanced and doesn't have as much complications as the x-01. not to mention the x-01 never got out of its experimental phase. so it's no surprise that The enclave were the only ones to modify these suits.

​@@jvazacas hell no ur dumb, its just a modernized t45

+Liam Barnes That's a Roman Numeral, the military doesnt use those in primary designation codes.

Lance O'Enchiantie in fallout two it was developed by the enclave on the oil rig. so either it's a loose lore or expanding or its being retconned.

Actually, the US military uses the designation "XM" (This used to be a "T", but was changed in the 1960s) for prototypes and projects in development (For example, the XM29 OICW). For equipment put into military service, the designation "M" was given (For example, M1 Abrams, M16, ect.) The US military in Fallout does not do this, but from what I gather they designate things like power armor with a "T", and rifles (Such as the R91, AKA the Assault Rifle in FO3) received and "R" designation. Other weapons used by the US military in Fallout are named by their commercial names, rather than military designation, for some reason.

Lance O'Enchiantie dheuhd

Makes sense to me to like.

yep that clears it up pretty well. its not lore breaking you just actually have to speculate and use your brain lol

@Dom510 Or, and just hear me out on this, you can use your brain and choose to interpret it like this: T-45 D: This represents the form of power armour predominantly used during the Sino-American War during 2067 and beyond, according to the Anchorage simulation IF you choose to believe that the General didn't choose to use his hand-wavium to justify its presence. It's name indicates that it's T45 Mark D, though it's more likely that the suits used during Anchorage are probably Mark As and Bs, with further developments being made later on during the war giving us Mark C through to Mark F. After all, why would they deploy the fourth variation to the front line first, as opposed to the first variation and then use the data found from the live-fire tests of actual combat to improve upon the design? T-51 B: This represents the form of power armour which is commonly considered to have replaced the T45 suits. It makes sense that eventually a different model would be produced, but probably to be used alongside the T45 in a different role, similar to how not all tanks are equal and some are developed for specific roles. They are, after all, meant to be the next evolution of combat, and all militaries are, if nothing else, people who choose to have lots of excellent single-task equipment as opposed to one above-average generalised piece of equipment. The name chosen suggests that its the Mark B variation, which again makes sense since its the model closely related to the Brotherhood, and any later variation suits would have been better put to use on the frontlines of the Sino-American War. This is all well-established, with the T-45 slotting in nicely to explain issues with the idea of power armour and stuff, and we can accept this. Here's where it gets tricky though - if the T-51 B variation is only meant to have been establised as a legitimate power armour by June 2076, that means that, at best, models C through F are established within the final, what, 16 months of the conflict, AND they managed to get a Model T-60 into mass production? Alternatively, look at it like this: T-60: Represents an upgraded version of the T-45, using similar techniques to the production of T-51, but because it modifies an already existing design with already existing materials and properties, as opposed to having to establish a brand-new design, it is able to be rushed out. Or alternatively, it's meant to be a BOS-exclusive synthesis of pre-war and post-war design, since the East Coast have apparently ditched all their T-45 suits and now exclusively use T-60, created during the in-between years of FO3 and FO4. This is fitting within their new lore, since they have apparently managed to create a modified zeppelin airship, as well as fully repairing Liberty Prime. Them managing to create something new based on pre-existing power armour designs to better suit their needs actually works for Maxson's forward thinking version of the BOS (forward thinking for the BOS, though their reasoning makes sense). X-01: IS just the APA from FO2 and FONV. The APA Mk 2 seen in FO3 can in turn be considered to be the APA Mk2 of FO2, or alternatively in keeping with the pre-war designation systems the APA V2 in FO2 is considered to be it's Model B to the APA's Model A. This makes the Mk2 in FO3 a legitimate development made, as opposed to simply retconning a design choice. As for their inclusion in the level lists? This is Bethesda, who heard our comments on the Enclave's PA in FO3 and therefore reused the old, more fondly remembered design AND allowed the T-60 to be used by non BOS players, and so added it to their level lists in order to avoid complaints about 1) locking the "best" gear behind a faction and 2) not allowing people to use their favourite enclave looking gear.

or the t60 was to be a more mass produced power armor while the x01 was too expensive, kinda like the t34 is a mass produced tank and something like the is and kv series is less produced but more powerful

Maybe they got a suit of T51B and shaped it to look like a T-45D? X-O1=Advanced Power armour X-O2=Advanced Power armour MK 2 X-O3=Hellfire Power Armour

really nigga

thats only a theory, its not really known if it's pre war or not.

@@SoupyMittensisn't it on a pre war drug dealers terminal in sanctuary

Where's SkankHunt, Dildo Faggins? Lol

Team Aonn South Park has nothing to do with this and the name in it was Dildo Swaggins.

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Thank you. I'm straight up considering this to be a non-canon item. It's meant to just be a late (or lateish) game unlock in their last DLC. I mean come on it's there for the player, not the story. I would have preferred them to have not given some reason for it being there.

This is why Bethesda shouldn't buy out games

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F!ck yeah

Especially since the T-51 uses complex composite materials and coatings, whereas the T-45/60 use simpler steel alloys.

Your character was a chopper pilot pre-war and while he/she would have been familiar with power armor, at least from the standpoint of getting someone out of it in an emergency, he/she wouldn't have been trained in its use.

@@SirLyonhart we see him in the beginning cutscene in power armour

@@thevikingseer That isn't him. Your character is in the infantry, the one with the locket of Nora.

Ok, but it doesn't explain how everyone in the Commonwealth knows how to use power armor. Y'know, like Gunners... Raiders... I HATE how FO4 hands these things like candies when they're supposed to be more rare

@@nodignity6159 i feel like gunners could get a pass since there more Militarized like they found a old bunker with info

kanevaldier this comment should be pinned

Examples of this being the XM8, the XM25, the XM29, and the XM806. Notice the pattern there? All 'X' prefixes. I don't think that's a coincidence, and if it is, it's an awfully convenient one.

kanevaldier that's right, "engineered" does not mean "invented"

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Super late to the show here but Kanevaldier is pretty much on the money with this, because the thing not mentioned in this video is how long it takes to produce said T-50 Power Armor. Also with the whole testing out proto-types is spot on as well, what would have theoretically happened if the bombs had not dropped is they would have tested the X-01 and after the initial testing period they would have brought it in and checked the data for any bugs or flaws to fix and ways to improve it as a whole. Sadly that never happened until long after the war with the Enclave as they took the data from the time after the bombs dropped to look at and correct any flaws thus giving us the Advanced Power Armor which would make the sequence of suits line up without any real gaps in the pre war time frame.

Actually, when asked how he created it, he says: "In my lab? Next question?" is avoiding when asked a second time and finally replies with some completely non-sensical pseudo-scientific bubble.

Yeah, but the only way to produce it is from brahmin dung and the brahmin only emerged from nuclear radiation after the bombs dropped. Even if Myron didn't invent it, it still is a post-war invention.

Ian Miller only postwar way of producing it that we know of. They’re could easily be a pre war way of producing it that has been lost to time.

Ian Miller could have been using pre-war cow dung before hand. Honestly jet just sounds like jenkem.

I just chalk it up to pre war Jet and Myron's Jet being entirely different chems that share a name and imbibing method: Pre War Jet's high changes people's perception of reality to make them feel like theyre moving through bullet time and has far less of an impact on the user's health and minimal withdrawal effects 180 years later, Myron is employed by the Morenos to make a chem that'll get people hooked fast. He experiments with peyote but finds that its not addictive enough before having a Eureka moment upon witnessing the Brahmin herders getting whoozy after working in the pens all day. He slowly refines his new chem to be extremely addictive and detrimental to the user's health, and decides to use the empty pre-war inhalers laying around as a dispensery, and the Morenos just call it Jet because thats what the labels on the inhaler say. The Great Khans, enraged by the events of Bitter Springs, begin to supply The Fiends with chems, and in an effort to spite the NCR they use information learned from the Followers to combine the effects of Pre war and Post war Jet together by adding Aerosol to the recipe, which proves to be extremely dangerous in the wrong hands due to its incredibly high addiction rate and potency. Turbo is introduced to the wasteland on a wave of blood and fire.

He. HE. HE. My bro what about Nora?

@@Eventualmoss315 you telling me if you got special training to drop any mf out there you wouldn’t teach it to your wife?? Cmon man it’s obvious Nate prepared Nora to handle anything

​@Eventualmoss315 oh I thought she was a war lawyer

Indeed my friend.

It may have been not until 200 years into the enclave that they had figured out how to mass produce the X-01 in sufficient quantities. I figured they were trying to shortly before the war as well as after while in parallel trying to improve those they could mass produce.

Voodoo Ranger very secret of them to put one in the middle of the most populated theme park in the world super secret

@headhunter 9865. Well yeah, Its a prototype just like how the USA army is making an Ironman power suit(loosely speaking) It was in a magazine when I 1st found out about it around 2007-08. In other words what I'm trying to say is EVERY one is proud of what they make and can't keep things to them self no matter how secretive they want it to be leaks will always be out there it's not well known that the usa is making an Ironman suit and I'm sure more then half the people reading this message will look this up in disbelief( here I saved you some time www.cnn.com/2015/10/06/politics/special-operations-iron-man-talos-suit/index.html ) . They could have wanted to make a big reveal of the product at the theme park but the bombs fell. So again it still is plausible that the armor would be there.

Could also still be a military power armor, but for special forces only.

is that an eyebot or a basketball?

Tons of tiny air jets that initiate a spinning attack? XD

Clowns lol I noticed it too

its a joke :p

I'm dead.

Àlex Stark I love this . your thinking is amazing and I think it’s spot on, thank you . 🖤

I’m too lazy to read the whole thing right now so take a free like until I have the time to read this

Holy fuck

I would like to point out one major flaw: you said the chinese launched their nukes, but no one actually knows who started the launching. There are theories ranging from the chinese to skynet in california all the way to the zetans.

After hearing the regret and guilt felt by the pilot of the sub in fallout 4 I think it actually could've been the cause (Chinese). Perhaps he launched the missiles under orders from someone who had been ordering the missiles fired because of any number of reasons. Including the aliens and skynet I suppose. Or because of missiles launched at China because of those reasons.

Darin Wagner Same here

Darin Wagner makes sense

I think it's more that the T51 was the most common suit at the time and as such there were plenty of surplus suits floating about. The Vim! paint jobs even reference the military appeal. I would imagine there was the beginning of a shift from the T51 to the T60 just before the war started meaning the US government was offloading some of its T51 stock. Hence why these companies grabbed them for advertising purposes.

Actually since T-51 is the original power armor and it is also the one used in a great battle so it would be popular and respected within the public in the Fallout universe. So it makes sense that Bethesda choose it for all these paint jobs. There is no such thing as a civilian/commercial version, at least until now. They most probably just gave us the Quantum X-01 because it was the last DLC and they wanted to give us an unique version of the most powerful power armor, and went through a few hurdles in the lore to deliver.

Its Humvee, not Hum-V. Or, the HMMWV, which means High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle

"The Enclave"also existed before the war. So the Enclave making something =/= must be made after the war. The Enclave were a shadow government portion of the US Gov't that bsically existed as soon as it was known nuclear war with China was likely, pre=planning and preapring to hide away in their own bunkers and bases like the Oil Rig in FO2.

Mike Bae yes

Mike Bae 1. THE ENCLAVE IS ELEMENTS OF THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT NOT MILITARY. THE BOS IS ACTUALLY REMEMENTS OF MILITARY.

Actually no the T-51 existed beforw the battle of Anchorage and is designes to be a more versitle armor in exchange for reduced heavy plating...

Mike Bae. I think it’s developed pre-war and was never mass produced. The Enclave knowing how to build it mass produced it.

I see thus comment too often. The t60 is pre war. You see it in the prologue. By two guards wearing it.

@@TheSegert Yes but the brotherhood got the blueprints of the T-60 and built it themselves, I know the T-60 is pre war but they don't use pre war T-60 armor they found, they copied the design and built it for their units, they got T-60 production.

@@evilboy3521 Or maybe they reverse engineered it?

Yup, field tested M16's that were experimental and before they were standard issue were called XM16E1's.

Had I been on the development team of fallout 4 I would have made it so that the T-60 power armour to be slightly weaker than the T-51. The T-60 would be an attempt to update the t-45 to more modern standards and was intended to be a more cost efficient and easier to produce alternative to the T-51b.

if they're all West-Tek, then it's like all brands and divisions under any multi-national corporation ... take cars for example. within any given auto manufacturer, not all of their products look exactly the same.

Good ideas.

That may very well be. That explains why the X-01 has what appears to be an onboard air supply aside from the normal hydraulics the other armors have, in addition to being a much more sealed system.

that is a good point. i never really thought about it but it makes sense if i do. if you look in NV you see that there was a lot of research going on about space travel, space mining robots, and space exploration. You would need a specialized suit of armor for space that would be sealed, have air, and be heavily armored against radiation and space junk.

yeah I had this idea also, I mean the obvious fact being that they go, T-45 - T-51 - T-60... X-01??? seems to me obscure, because if it were the same company surely it would just be T-72 or something.

Totally. I've been walking around with the flames skin on it; I look a little bit scary--especially when you have your lights on, the eyes glow a sinister yellow white that would make my skin crawl if I saw the thing in real life.

problem is with all of that defense comes at the cost of repairing it. it's why I usually travel in t45s or t5s since they only require steel.

makes you look like a mirelurk

@@thegermanfool8953 t5s? Thats gotta be the worst damn suit of power armor ever used

@@SoupyMittens my bad, I meant t-51.

Exactly

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You can also get a suit T51/T60 if you didn't know. How? By going into a place you shoulnd't at low level. Is a gameplay wise gimmick, not lore wise. (Hell, all PA drops are gameplay wise, less the one you get at The Prydwen) By the way, is called Hub 360.

I think it was a prototype, or, it literally just was a X-01 suit because as Ox said, Enclave did research on X-01 and made the Advanced Power Armor, it makes sense that a X-01 suit would be there, behind a blast door protected by all the robots. X-01 was prewar, after all.

It's because Bethesda doesn't care about lore

Good theory, you can even see how the Enclave's helmets get smaller and smaller, reducing the weight and (probably) improving certain parts.

Willem D great theory, on top of that what if the T-60 was produced for the national guard and domestic warfare? Though it doesn't make since why would you use something that upgrades the power armor troops use over seas just on your homeland. But that's were the X-01 comes in. If it was finished it would have been deployed over seas.

Willem D Exactly. Baxter probably sent that suit to Bradburton to see if he could improve it with his new "quantum" tech, just like he did with his prototype FatMan. Figure it was just leaving yhe testing grounds when the bombs dropped, which is why the Enclave had them but the BOS didn't. Pentagon high-ups vs grunts in the field, basically.

I agree. The XM4 is the Experimental model of the M4 service rifle.

Found all star cores and i have no regreats

@@topcoppelion6626 lol

And you still can glitch in to that glass, steal all the pieces and glitch out of it xD

Johannes De Sigbjorn I kept getting a near by enemy message so I had to go and clear out the whole place before I could leave, I glitched in 5 different times before I could leave

I just used the cheat room mod. I got the suit in the room, and now I own 2 Nuka-quantum X-01 suits.

Yeah, they were made from a small squad guarding a research facility in the desert. I don't think they would be getting their hands on any power armor schematics/highly advanced power armor.

Vault-Tec Maybe seeing as the facility they were guarding was the main hub for military secrets like FEV

there most likely was schematics at the base, but i don't think they took it because they didn't have t60 all the time.

Funnyman 0074 I don't think they have the facilities to produce whole suits of x o1 suits.

Lance corporal cook no im not talking about x01 armor im talking about t60

People would initially think it was a Sci-Fi prop, not really a legitimate piece of equipment, its a common military practice at times when dealing with new equipment or controversial materials. Make it seem farfetched and more fictional, to discredit actual legitimate claims of the objects existence.

Sometimes the best place to hide something right under somones nose

TheMegaOlve I tried it with my dog, hid his food, he instantly found it You lied

Some scrubby Scrub Can you smell military secrets? Wait, don't answer that... They're watching... 😕

The Yf22 Raptor was put into a video game 10 Years before it was made public.

it's also likely that the T-60 is just an upgrade and refit for the T-45. maybe even the same kind of upgrade the brotherhood did to their T-45's to be ready to fight the enclave in fallout 3. and can even easily explain the brotherhood's ability to make them as even fallout 3's brotherhood of steel could make the T-45. so being able to make the upgrade and refit kits to upgrade the armor they can already make would be better for them then the advanced power armor mk 2 and the hellfire armor they had access to in which they have to retool and make their whole industry to make

I agree that from a lore viewpoint it would probably have to do with the manufacturing cost. Even if it's not just a T-45 upgrade, its similar enough to be a lot less costly to produce than the X-01. Especially for mass production in wartime, less retooling of factories, as you already mentioned.

Yes. The lore says that there was different ones. The first generation were used in the winter war and turned the tide. The next gernation dropped into China rightbefore the nukes... this special was supposed to be an elite model.

Yes, that was my thought as well ... t-51, t-60, and x-01 may all have had earlier concept and design, but the way things worked out, they all finished rather close to the Great War, despite having staggered starts.

And/or the General in charge of Project Cobalt didn't share his info with his superiors/they didn't share. Wouldn't be the first time compartmentalized information ended up hindering progress. Though I can see how trying 2 or more ways to solve a problem in parallel might work.

5 months too late for me, but I wholeheartedly agree

Mark Newton Having the military show off experimental tech and new designs is not uncommon at least as per the early 20th century. They used to let reporters and photographers on new warships to show the public the raw might of the new steel Navy, so it's not inconceivable that in the hyper idealized world of pre war Fallout, that the military would do something similar but with power armor and weapons, of course all curated to not reveal secrets

One thing a lot of people tend to forget is that when it comes to warfare, armor is almost never distributed in the most advanced form available. This is because a weapon is just one handheld device, and can be given to everyone MUCH cheaper than and entire suit of body-covering armor that likely costs several times more than the weapon. One example of this is how someone already made bulletproof "power armor" (so to speak) as early as 2007 and even demonstrated it on youtube, yet not a single soldier in the US military operates a single suit of those, nor are there any efforts to improve upon that suit for military purposes. The ONE downside to the X-01 compared to any other power armor model in Fallout 4 is that it is VERY resource expensive to repair, costing several additional, rare components like Copper to keep in good condition. In a resource perspective, the X-01 is actually the least efficient power armor for continuous operation because of how much more expensive it is to actually maintain. This is likely why it was never issued because the much more cheaper T-models still did their roles well enough and cheaply enough to make the X-01's existence rather ironically unnecessary for much rather than an experimental template. The thing we can gather from this is that The Enclave based their Advanced power armor on the X-01, but did NOT just merely copy it via reverse engineering because it was way too resource expensive to distribute to an entire army. The many years of experimental armor production therefore were likely efforts to make a "cheaper" but still just as effective version of the X-01, which they did succeed at doing.

joshua kim that suit of armor you talked about only protects against handgun rounds and the current issue stuff stops AP 30-06s that's why it wasn't adopted because the taliban uses aks not makarovs

Mark Newton hai

Possible promotional item to not only hype up that park but hype up the new styled power armor.

Mattias Ek they do

+Mattias Ek Yeah, they did, but the X-01 hadn't been approved for mass deployment yet, in 2077. It was still a prototype at that point, hence the X-01, "X" standing for "Experimental". However, they weren't U.S. Military guards at Vault 111, they were Vault-Tec guards, who employed T-60 power armor because it was, as Oxhorn stated, deemed for civilian/domestic use. Vault-Tec is a private sector corporation, employed by the military, true enough, but were not given military personnel for guard duty, much less mechanized infantry.

ChozoSR388 Yes, actually, the soldiers at vault 111 in the beginning were US Army personnel. Vault-Tec security has their own uniforms. They don't wear Army uniforms or have military power armor. And Vault-Tec was contracted by the US military to build the vaults and run their experiments. It was called Project Safehouse. Of course they would send soldiers to the vaults when the attacks were imminent. They were working with Vault-Tec.

RingWraith75 I was gonna say pretty much the same thing lol. I thought it was obvious that they weren't civilians due to their heavy weaponry and armor. there's even soldiers present that weren't in power armor, wearing just military uniforms and helmets. I don't understand how someone could assume a mini gun toting armored beefcake was a civilian, but to each their own lol

Yes you are correct that 2/3 of the guards at the gate had T60 Power Armour suits.

they own the game they make the lore..

Except there was a bunch of lore prior to Beth owning it, and Beth has been just trampling that.

Thomas Finnegan​ they bought the rights they own it now. Even the guy who made the fallout bible/ fallout suports them on it. Only people who are jaded about it is fallout 1/2 fan bois stuck to the past.

Thats fine and dandy Fallout Bible man supports them but its kinda arse when Bethesda contradicts themselves half the time anyway. Also, maybe being 'stuck in the past' isnt such a bad thing when the games are objectively better written stories.

Thomas Finnegan no thats just your bias showing. To me fallout 1s story wasn't that great 2 was good.

Darin Wagner rip

This is our evil city block Oxhorn.

I've been really enjoying Oxhorn's channel. He's come a long way from "roflmao"

i doubt youll see this oxhorn but what clothes does your character have on

why would nuka cola scientists in nuka world be working on a big mountain project?

Wyatt Y Grose apparently lore wise you would need special training to use it. Also, you can't eat power armor so it's uses to the average wastelander are quite limited.

tallguy7890giant I wasn't implying you would eat it. surely there would be some ex-military survivors after the war that would have adequate enough trading to be able to snatch that right up. either way, it would be a nice surprise to find

There is lots of stuff jyst lying around in the different fallout games the "normal" people would pick up. There shouldn't be nuka-cola machines still filed with bottles 200 years after the war

Wyatt Y Grose exactly it's just glass

Nevermind the miles of hordes of angry robots you have to travel through to get to it, and only if you know where it is.

Not if you play a female. She was a lawyer, never in the military.

My immersion comes up with all sorts of crap, so she possibly may have had some kind of affiliation to the military, as she was, as you said, a lawyer, and may have had to have known safety issues and the workings of power armour in her line of work. That is probably my best guess. Also I did sub your insight into the lore and various stories is awsome!

Fallout 1 and 2 though. even tactics. or Van Buren. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are the only ones that require power armor training. well. here let me go off subject a bit. im sorry but this might be a read. a good read. from some one that has been FALLowing OUTright lore from the series sense the very beginning of fallout's creation under Interplay. Relating to power armor. August 2065: The need for increased mobility among the units of the US Army Mechanized Cavalry leads the American government's defense contractors to focus their research on the development of a man-based tank - the ultimate result is powered Infantry armor. 2065 - 2067: Research and development into power armor intensifies among the different firms involved in the project and several prototypes are developed, many of which prove to be unworkable once they are deployed in the field. These prototypes (Dubbed X-project) pave the way for several major future advances in materials science, robotics, and nuclear fusion technology in the decade before the outbreak of the Great War. 2067: The first suit of T-45 power armor is deployed for combat duty among American infantrymen fighting the Chinese occupation of Alaska. The X-45A was the first prototype suit of power armor that was sited under development. the T-45D was the first deployed variant. September 2075: Under the command of General Brock testing begins at Fort Strong, Boston on an early batch of prototype T-51b Power Armor Suits constructed by the US Army Corps of Engineers dubed X-50. MP-47 prototype medic power armor - a power armor prototype June 2076: The X-51 power armor prototype is finally completed (Dubed T-51B), resulting in the development of the suit of power armor. Same month, the suit is sent to the front of the Alaskan liberation. -The X-60 power armor (Dubed T-60) is developed as a =PROTOTYPE=, intended to replace the T-51 model. In the final days before the Great War, the suit sees limited deployment among military peacekeeping forces within the United States. Around this time, early models of the X-01 power armor were under development by the US government, only dubed as X-01. NOW some time line history. -2077 October 23, 09:17 am EST: DEFCON 1, Bombers scrambled, Ships deployed, missiles launched. 09:26 am: MX-CN91 is ordered, Full nuclear retaliation is authorized. 9:30AM: the great war, Fallout 4 prologue begins. -2161 December 5, 07:21: fallout 1 begins -2197 January 1, 06:29: Fallout tactics begins at some point, Mid-west BoS produced power armor for themselves, crafted and plated in key points. vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/5/5f/MidwesternBrotherhoodPowerArmor.png/revision/latest?cb=20101108151235 -2198: Fallout Tactics ends... -The Enclave's scientists develop various new technologies, including the first new viable power armor variations since the Great War. None of these suits are much of an improvement over the original versions of power armor developed before 2077, and some are actually worse. 2208: Fallout: BoS begins 2209: Fallout: BoS Ends -2215: Under Presidential Order, the Enclave's scientists begin to work on an upgraded version of power armor that exceeds the performance of the T-51b model. Many prototypes are developed and tested. -October 2220: Enclave scientists finally develop a reliable version of what they dubbed ADVANCED POWER ARMOR based off the X-01 model. The suit is found to be the toughest suit of power armor ever made in any fallout game to date. -2222: Colonel Augustus Autumn was born -2241 July 25, 08:24: Fallout 2 begins. Advanced Power Armor Mk.II was put into service. consisting of heavier composites and space age metals in key locations in effort to combat high calibure munitions. -2242 Fall: Fallout 2 ends, destroying Enclave oil rig -2070s: tapes found on ED-E show that Col Autumn was on the west coast at some point. 2270s. ED-E was known for reaching locations in a cross-country journey to Navarro, past Rockville, Hagerstown, the Pitt, Denver, Nephi, Zion Canyon, Caliente, the Hub, Necropolis, Lost Hills, and San Francisco. --ED-E's first stop was a hidden Enclave outpost in Chicago for upgrades and repairs. It then traveled across the Mojave Wasteland. 2277 August 17, 09:04: Fallout 3 begins. war of 2277, when the Enclave necessitated an increased production of the Hellfire armor =from the passage we can claim that the Enclave had been in the area in chicago, where the Mid-West BoS was also at, in 2197. this would give the idea of where the enclave recive the armor prints for the Mid-West BoS "Horned" Power armor design, then upgraded over it. =It is stated that the Hellfire armor was to be produced due to a shortage in power armor suits for man power. with the ability to keep as much protection as possible but with an increase of heat and explosive resistances. the final model not being as great as it was planned to be but consentrated in its primary aspects, heat and explosive resistances. an EOD suit. -2281 Oct 19th, 8:00: Fallout New Vegas begins, ED-E and its clone found -2282: Fallout new Vegas ends -2287 October 23: Fallout 4 begins === so what can we draw from this? Well lets go ether with path A. Beth has shit lore, no matter what. lets rename the Mid-West BoS armor the X-00, the power armor in Fo4 X-01, the enclave armor in Fo3 X-02. or B. X-01 was a prototype, was picked up years later and made into the Advanced Power Armor. later after the oil rig, the power armor not able to be allocated for enclave head counts. they turned to the Mid-West BoS or what was left of them, developed the power armor seen in Fallout 3 or what i like to call the X-02. or derived from the Advanced power armor in FoT i like to call the X-02 Mk.II. which IS BLACK or darker like seen in fallout 3. vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/e/ec/MidwesternBrotherhoodAdvancedPowerArmor.png/revision/latest?cb=20101108151413

I like to think (to fix the bethesda mess) That Developed order: T 51b - F1 & F2 T 45 - F3 & F4 T 60 - F4 X 01 - F2 ? ?? - Frank Horrigan T-51/X-01 hybrid custom design. X 01 II (advanced power armor) - F2 Midwestern Power armor - Tactics Mk2 - Fallout 3 I would say the enclave Mk2 (f3) follows the same evolution that midwestern power armor follows... by the lack of resources (F2 ending for the enclave or the Ship crash on F Tactics) and they decided both on their own different way to develop smaller frame power armor, more focused on survavility and easier maintenance than other heavier and bulkier models... somehow similar to what happened with the t45 prewar, where that were worse models than t60 or t51 but cheaper and easier to be built.

BioClone settlers, raiders and even your followers who haven't had experience with power armour training (Piper, Cait, Preston Garvey, etc)

The others are more like Halo Spartan armor but more retro

@@rubenlopez3364 yea

clearly you haven't played fallout 1 or 2. in those games while wearing power armor you are ACTUALLY invincible unless very high damage special weaponry is used against you

Thats one of the only things i really like about fallout 4. They did that right for sure, though they lost the need for power armor training along the way...

(really late, I know) I meant my original comment as in in the other games, Power Armor is just armor pieces like normal that are super strong. Whereas Fallout 4 is (as far as I know) the only one where it's a standalone system of proper power armor/exosuit kind of deal. I'm sure they're strong in the early games but (from what I've seen in videos, I admittedly haven't played myself) the way they're equipped is like regular armor. "Game level" probably was me trying to say something like development limitations... or something, I'm not too sure on that front. It's weird trying to decode comments from your past self 1-2 years ago during a deep-dive of random youtube videos that was likely at like 1 AM.

Kinda wish it would It'd make things simpler (As if trying to cram all this lore into my skull wasn't hard enough)

Additionally, the contradictory statement on the development of the X-01 vs the Advanced Power Armor may just come from in-world confusion on the differences between the two. If the projects were secret enough, then it would be understandable if knowledge about them is mixed and mingled

Its also likely that the T-60 was developed and deployed as a cheaper substitute for the X-O1, leaving the advanced model to only be used for combat.

Leon H Not to mention that most enclave armor has built in nutrients and water delivery systems so it would make sense that the military contractors at nuka world would be working in on it after hours. Better to bullshit about it being a non functional display, than having journalists crawling over the top secret labs and seeing it.

My theory is that the T45 and T60 are actually the same, just with slight modifications and appearance changes, kinda like how in the real world there's the FN MAG and M240, or the M249 and L108A1 machine guns

Or the production cost of the x-01 was too high so they needed something faster for mass production and the x-01 was only for special forces and such

well the x-01 looks more grim than any other power armor. For special forces or even for the normal infantry that could play a part in psychological warfare. That could be a reason for the missing t51 look.

Isn't there a locked away X01 at the top of a building in the common wealth protected by assaultatrons and a Sentry bot? Doesn't that add to the confirmation that the X01 was created pre war?

Problem with the gear in Fallout 4 is that it's levelled. It is only a full x-01 set if you are lvl 40 or above (i think) when you first approach it. It can be every other armor. Same goes with the other Power armors spread around the wasteland. Its sad that there is no constant x-01 spawn thats just protected by such difficult enemies that you can only take it at such high level, because that would give a little story background.

You should make a mod to fix that. And then force several of the Brotherhood members into t-51. I'd download it in a heartbeat!

Well, T-60 is designed to be reinforced and modified T-45 armor. But considering the problems with T-45 armor, that means T-60 should make you tougher than T-51, but slower than all other Power Armors.

Just make a mod that makes it so that for every piece of T-60 armor that you add to your PA, while using that PA, will reduce your agility by 1 point.

The T-60 is basically T-45TUSK. Bethesda really dropped the ball on the power armors in-game. They all could have been unique and useful but instead it's just linear progression from worst to best (Though you do skip the true worst, raider PA is pointless).

^Raider PA does look badass as fuck though. Overboss PA made me orgasm.

BreezyHD lol

lol exacly.

this sums up the video

mod money now

incorrect

Cud be a thing

I'm sure it was built to work with the fat man due to high quality armor and radiation protection. just to expensive to manufacture so only billionaires and government got those prototypes. t60 was updated t45 for home defence and crowd control towards the end of the war. that's why bos have so many suits and all t60 suits stayed in America and never fought in Alaska or China.

You're wrong buckeroo, T-60 is one of Bethesda's shitty retcons to make some "kool lol" power armor meanwhile T-51b and T-45d were military power armors, X-01 and the X-02 were developed by the Enclave and sure X-01 could've had some pre-war prototypes but that'd be really it and X-01 and Hellfire are post-war. Fuck Bethesda's retconning and fuck you because this is the internet and I can do whatever I fucking want.

@American Nyan That was actually funny

Possibly?

Most badass too

Joey Angotti yup 100% facts

Joey Kevorkian even though the Winterized T51 set in FO3 has the same stats and doesn't need to be repaired but OK

Reminds me of hell hounds from greek mythology.

Super Wukongo Maybe some people would rather look cool than wear armor that is technically cheating. The only reason the armor is unbreakable, is because the wrong version of the suit was put in the game.

That's surprisingly good.

Whoa....

Polenicus what about the big dig X-01

makes sense

Polenicus that is logic, very good frend!

Power armor would only take up like 5 minutes of small arms fire before getting you killed in reality, so it's just a waste to even develop power armor in reality and why the fuck would the U.S need power armor when military vehicles would've been nuclear powered and therefore nullifying the need for power armor because what's more effective? A metal man that would die in like 5 minutes or a FUCKING TANK! Not even mentioning fallout's U.S army having a huge supply of military-grade bots capable of either simple logistics work to THROWING TACTICAL NUKES AT THEM FUCKING COMMIES!

@@randomzebraontheinternet7779 the point of power armor is that its ARMORED. It is several inches of hardened steel or titantium, it can resist hours of constant small arms fire. They say in the lore they didnt use tanks and switched to power armor because the tanks they had werent able to be fueled by fusion and of course oil was all but gone, so they downsized

Professional Zebra Moron, search the RESOURCE WARS. They didn't have the fuel to power thousands of tanks

@@jamestodd1104 not only that, if i remember correctly, the reactors they had were too big to fit in tanks and the fusion cores are too small to power the massive tanks they had

The Gaming Specialist Yep, US would've had an unstoppable fighting force for all of 2 weeks until they were out of fuel and stranded in china

Joseph Polit Publicity stunt.

1) Yes, that is why the loading screen is NOT lore friendly and needs to be changed, as I said in the video. 2) The military often shows off its prototypes, especially those that are ready for combat. We have been hearing news about the Air Force's F-35A for years, but it was only recently (August) that it became combat ready.

Rafael Technolover If it really was a publicity stunt: why wouldn't the army put a more expendable suit of armor in there, perhaps one that had won anchorage: T51. Not only is it more iconic, it is also not a prototype, so there would be less risk in showing it off. Also, why does the army need a publicity stunt? There is no mention of the public being particularly perturbed over the decisive victory in Anchorage or the Gobi campaign, so the idea of the army putting a priceless experimental prototype armor in a public theme park for publicity seems a little daft.

***** Well, I honestly did not expect a response from you, neat. I disagree on your first point. Using occam's razor it is more likely that Bethesda just made a lore mistake due to the need of a viable reward for the high level players that the DLC was aimed at. Regarding the second point, while the F35 example is rather compelling, I feel that the time frame is a little off. Considering that the first suit of t45d was DEPLOYED in 2067, I feel it is reasonable for there to it to have been fully developed a year earlier. Considering it took the f35 9 years for the prototype to be made, it is assumed that power armor has a similar development time (give or take a couple of years considering it took till 2075 for t51 to be constructed), so if it the timeline you have created is to be believed the x01 would have had a working prototype within one year of the creation t51 while t60 was being developed in the background (I can believe that the t60 was able to be distributed within a two years due to it being mostly based off of the t45) then it would be carted off to a theme park and placed within military installations; which may I remind you: all took place in one year. This is even more troubling due to the fact that this armor is seemingly from scratch considering its lack of similarities to the T series (it's name even starts with x). Considering how much justification it took to allow for the x01 to be pre-war is it not simpler to believe Bethesda made a mistake?

Publicity stunts are usually meant to show off the best of the crop. No matter how new it is. And it was to secure more faith in the war. The common man was losing faith in the war, they didn't believe the military could win. So the military had to try and set that right some how.

Nat Carr what about Nora? She's just a lawyer

Tristan Riffle he's talking about the other fallouts not fallout 4

Nora is the female's default name in F4 lol

Nat Carr Excatly what i thought

i agree, the X01 lacks the cooling fan and in addition it also has a more symmetrical shroud around the shoulders and back where the APAMKI and APAMKII is Asymmetrical

Tagan Reaper I think your right plus a terminal entry in the Whitespring bunker ever says something of the sort

@@coolminecraft1457 you've been replying to a lot of these comments lately.

NamesNot Joe nothing wrong with replying

Yes it was a prototype. That's what the X means. The X designation means prototype.

felmar aquino Pretty much

the original designation of Advanced power armor is MkII powered combat armor. besides that the Advanced Power Armor MK2 looked like the X01 and its mk 1 variant and then eventually they developed the advanced power armor MK2 used in fallout 3

I bet the X-01 was like Nuka Cola Quantum, meaning that it was only just being distributed when the bombs dropped, which is why it is so rare

if x-01 is post-war, there still fucking up lore. t-51b is meant to be the best post-war yet this would mean both t-60 and x-01 beat it out on this.