Bisu (P) vs Soma (Z) on Polypoid. Game 3 of 9. Want to support ArtosisCasts? / artosis I'm probably LIVE right now, check me out: →Twitch: / artosis
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@KarnivorActual4 ай бұрын
I work overnights at a prison, and I love coming home, eating, showering and usually right about when I get in bed, a new Arty cast pops up, and I throw it on. Usually, I make it through the whole video, but sometimes I wake up and I’m deep in a rabbit hole of Starcraft or Warhammer lore because Autoplay went crazy. 😂
@elchinolatino154 ай бұрын
Lmao love the autoplay algo
@HappyChillmore4 ай бұрын
Nice. I don't even play anymore but I don't miss an artosis cast or a falcon paladin video. Falcon is way less technical and misses all kinds of important stuff, but I still watch all of his videos too.
@DirkyDiggz4 ай бұрын
Touché ARfalcadan palaTOSIS
@junioraltamontent.75824 ай бұрын
Do you walk in on Walton Simons interrogating the prisoners? "Get the hell out of here Denton!"
@tb88654 ай бұрын
Bro same wake up and find myself somewhere in Falcon Paladin's old casts lol.
@bencevarga27894 ай бұрын
It's insane how exciting a casual ladder match can be with Arty's commentary. I'm super hyped for the continuation of this kind of DIY serie. Well done Arty!
@usmh4 ай бұрын
Arty's the man.
@joshuaspector81822 ай бұрын
He’s kinda the best 😂
@kamronandaya76194 ай бұрын
The series content is pretty sick, but I also thought it was really smart you are going to mix in other games for the “less invested”. StarCraft is in good hands. Also, I know you like hearing about how your casts fit into our days, I definitely watch the new matches in the morning before work and watch older matches when I go to bed. Absolutely the best way to start and finish a day
@Marc983384 ай бұрын
Having 2 little babies running around all day long, my favorite part of the day is laying in bed and finally having some Artosis cast to watch. Every day im wondering how the next game will be in these series.😊 Thanks so much Arty.
@AwonDanag4 ай бұрын
8:40 Moved out thinking the armor upgrade will finish in time, but opponent was farther out on the map than he was expecting. If he had already +1 here who knows how the rest wouldve turned out
@freehatespeech68044 ай бұрын
Last game, Soma made Zerg look overpowered, or at least, Polypoid look Z favoured in this matchup. In this game, Bisu really showed why he is the supreme master of PvZ. He truly understands PvZ concepts better than even other great players, and he demonstrated some of them in this game. 1: He expanded aggressively; as aggressively as possible without making himself vulnerable, and many Protoss players don't expand as much as they can, and get overwhelmed by Zerg later. Bisu is among the best at knowing how quickly he can expand, and pushing that to its limit. A classic mistake is to just attack off of two bases, when a third base is open to be taken. 2: He did hit and run skirmishes. Walk up to a lurker line, snipe some, then run away and do it again, possibly somewhere else. The ideal is to snipe with dragoons only. After that, one storm + one dragoon shot, and after that, double storm. This is good because the Protoss army can reposition to its optimal formation faster than Zerg. Zerg needs to set up lurkers, set up flanks, and also has more units in general, which makes moving the army around optimally difficult. Protoss can exploit that by always being on the move. Also, coming out of the fog of war unexpectedly has an innate attacker's advantage. A classic mistake is to over extend and stay in the same spot for too long, and to thus get swallowed by a flanking Zerg who was allowed the time needed to set up his whole army against the Protoss, *or*, Protoss runs out of storm to a skirmishing Zerg who is constantly baiting out storms, dodging them, sniping units, and sending in just enough units to force storm usage, but not everything at once since that gives too much value to each storm (especially if units are clumped up on top of lurkers). Know when to siege, and know when to manoeuvre.
@vitaminamulti4 ай бұрын
This tactical acumen in real time is what makes SC1 supreme. Realistic factors of mobility, position, attrition play a role
@saadehsan8944 ай бұрын
Hi Artosis, I am a huge fan of your work. The reason why I think the other series was more exciting was we got to see some cheese and quick games that we don't usually see. It would be interesting to see sometimes those mixed in and how the pros handle it. I think that is why the other series did so well. Keep on casting you are awesome.
@liveandjaphappy4 ай бұрын
17:07 I love it when Zerg purposefully holds back some units so that Protoss just wastes their storms
@goodguycwyzz47684 ай бұрын
To be fair both those storms were pretty fucking good regardless
@valentinomanontroppo46754 ай бұрын
love the tactics enabled by the mobility of both armies in zvp
@rhinodog86464 ай бұрын
Somebody knit this guy a sweater, he always so chilly
@MrDarthDread4 ай бұрын
These sets of ladder games have been really fantastic
@freshcutzwag4 ай бұрын
I personally really enjoy those ladder series they’re incredibly entertaining and RT happens to be the first i look forward to in the morning everyday i wake up ! I’ve been watching since RT since 2010 and to this day you’re still my favorite caster.
@chaos8004 ай бұрын
13:50 "anyways enough talk of that bisu is trying to BUST right now"
@Icthi4 ай бұрын
Sick game, sick series, sick channel. Definitely part of my daily routine. Usually a lunch companion for me these days.
@user-il5td4uh2d4 ай бұрын
That was a beautiful game. Most players over-commit but Bisu has the tactical retreat down to an art form. "Chills!"
@matticus114 ай бұрын
I liked the muta dive on the high templars, not like they would be useful against so much static defense and goon heavy armies. Also cool to see Soma get the slower to withdraw templars. Good thing Bisu had infinite gas due to securing so many expansions. Lack of hive tech hurt
@dewinmoonl4 ай бұрын
artosis is infectious now we all have chills !
@arivald66774 ай бұрын
That outswarm at 17:00 really show how dangerous is attacking into zerg main hive cluster. in few seconds orange zerg suddenly tripled number of defenders he had. That felt almost like scripted campaign trigger that's meant to force reload on player. Had Protoss stayed in that fight he would lost entire match.
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great cast!
@benjaminhuver16574 ай бұрын
Wow! Just Wow! Thank you for the cast, Artosis!
@mrchocoborider4 ай бұрын
Sick play from both sides. Love to see it.
@ImperviousSC4 ай бұрын
I loved the last series. It was really awesome to see the changes each player was making during those 14 games. I hope we see similar in this series. This series is off to a good start!
@Materialist394 ай бұрын
Soma is so sick dude. It’s really cool to see how divergent in play style all the major zergs are but he just seems like he’s always got just a little more stuff or is just a little faster in getting out his important units. Those things matter so much when your peers are also so good.
@wd-bs4xz4 ай бұрын
Hi Artosis, chiming in to say how much I enjoy watching these each day. You do a great job making it all comprehensible. One suggestion I would have would be to put a “Z” or “P” above the players’ names in the bottom right. It’s easy for me to forget which player is which. Small thing and probably just a me problem!
@FlymanMS4 ай бұрын
Hydras are unbreakable and crushing, until they are all dead.
@topshothotshot6664 ай бұрын
Chills.... Absolute chills
@josephdecker56604 ай бұрын
Best caster. Loving it. He brings nearly 2 decades of experience, and it shows.
@pandabearguy14 ай бұрын
Amazing engagemnts from Bisu, not over extending even once.
@TheSuperappelflap4 ай бұрын
The zealot that went into the 3rd around 7:50 killed a drone
@ChillPhoenix74 ай бұрын
I'm definitely invested in this series Arty! Won't mind some sprinkles though. 🍨
@tachometr4 ай бұрын
I'll ask as advised before. I don't understand, why soma chose not to go hive and stay on lair tech in this game. Does that have to do something with the 3rd being so quick so Soma tried to counterpressure and "punish" only 6 gates? Before he went hive and it was much better for him. Generally I don't understand ZvP past the opening - number of gates related to expansion timings and 5hatch/6 hatch counter pressure. Do you have better insight?
@sebastiantru47024 ай бұрын
Bisu was to strong. its not just hive, you need defiler mound and upgrades as well as adrenal glands which means a lot less hydras. if he had less hydras he wouldnt have been able to hold any of Bisu attacks. Soma was banking on getting good storm dodges and reducing the protoss army efficiently to give him the breathing room to go hive. The storms were way to good though so it didnt pan out and Soma lost. If he coulda secured a 4th gas he would have been in a better spot but with Bisu map presence he felt he couldnt hold top right so went for a sneaky base which would have fueled his hive tech. but it was found and destroyed.
@tachometr4 ай бұрын
@@sebastiantru4702 Would you say it had something to do with the muta choice? Is that a general rule that if you go mutas, you stay longer on lair tech to compesate for the gas spent? And if you don't do enough damage with mutas, you are just behind?
@jakecassell4 ай бұрын
if you ain't nerd chillin, you ain't livin brother
@fredrik_p4 ай бұрын
I like when you explain things, like why it's called "natural (expansion)". n00bs like me get a chance to learn something.
@PolishPowerFilms4 ай бұрын
GET THIS MAN A BLANKET
@briangehremendoza36784 ай бұрын
superb casting
@hdwill4 ай бұрын
That was a sick game!
@joshuaspector81822 ай бұрын
Good psi storms are just insane!
@somecooney53044 ай бұрын
Great content. Winning formula here.
@BlazeIliev3 ай бұрын
What a great game. Storms everywhere
@aaronscholes15414 ай бұрын
Nice play!
@michaelwhiskey54074 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the 2-1 win arty🎉🎉
@kevinf.25564 ай бұрын
Feels like the Zerg was switched out with Artosis XD Last game he slayed Bisu, this game even though the start extremely well held from zerg its not even close as to how well he played in the last match. Are these game in chronological order? I know theyre not played in a row or within a few days, so that explains the huge performance diff. but holy hell its day and night in between the last three games.
@obert0264 ай бұрын
One question I can’t recall you addressing in all of your ASL/GSL casts, why are 3 and 4 player maps more viable in BW than in SC2? I enjoy the dice roll aspect that early scouting your opponent’s base location brings to BW. Thanks!
@therealviceroy4 ай бұрын
One question I have is you mention everything does "full damage" against shields. Is that because protoss rarely get upgrades for shields? Or do shields take damage differently than HP?
@MoonyD9114 ай бұрын
Beautiful PvZ game. You can see the big difference between this game and game 2. Key difference being that Soma's investment in Mutas and Scourge didn't do enough damage and thus he couldn't commit/tech up to defilers quickly like he did in game 2.
@ChRicke-rt9hy4 ай бұрын
My god Bisu is still a monster
@somecooney53044 ай бұрын
So I guess the tradeoff to no hive tech, is being able to afford and replace clumps of 30 hydras in an instant.
@ComradKirich4 ай бұрын
I enjoy how Arty comment games. Really cool
@sagacity10714 ай бұрын
In UEDAIP zerg can build creep colonies anywhere. I often wonder what this would allow pros to do.
@nHautamaki4 ай бұрын
Dumb question maybe but how do we know this is Bisu and Soma? Is there a trick to reading those barcodes?
@PajakTheBlind4 ай бұрын
It's raining storm
@MasterFXPL4 ай бұрын
What would happen if Bisu would not invest in Corsairs in this game? He didn't hunt down the overlords. Scourges+Mutas were pushing him whenever he tried to move out somewhere. Would that change Zerg tactics somehow? I get it that he would have harass zealots more, but then the gas could be spent more on Archons.
@elpantruca97774 ай бұрын
Hey Artie, last vid i kept thinking about why don't zerg players go spore colonies versus corsair/dt. Their range, damage and detection makes them seem like a good choice for corsair/dt. Is it cus they are too costly?
@skoziss4 ай бұрын
Always gotta watch our boy comment
@MasterFXPL4 ай бұрын
In E rank P would encounter an early all-in for 99%. I have a feeling that that build would simply fail under such circumstances.
@Soryeon224 ай бұрын
Hey Artosis, I had a question about the usage of queens and why we don't see ensnare we used more often in ZvP. Granted, I'm a lowly D rank player but i feel like the movement and attack speed reduction can be pretty huge in catching grouped corsairs or ground armies that are out of position. And you're going to build a queen's nest anyway, so the cost is 100/100 for the queen and 100/100 for ensnare. Would love to hear your thoughts on this
@FlymanMS4 ай бұрын
Ensnare is super underrated fr
@tehvolka4 ай бұрын
Ensnare is good. It just a matter of using it while doing everything else that needs to be done : moving your army around, dodging storms, flanking, counterattacking, macroing, splitting your Lurkers, keep up with upgrades, and so on. In that list, casting ensnare gets low priority. It is an APM cap.
@dewinmoonl4 ай бұрын
would've worked really well against the retreating dragoons. i think with all units it's just a matter of times before they get adopted, that's the trend of broodwar. nobody was using queens ZvT in 2010, now they are, nobody was using valks TvZ in 2010, now they are. so we just have to wait a bit until we see ensnare being used
@kc9omg4 ай бұрын
the best part of this game was when Bisu said 'IT'S STORMIN' TIME' and stormed all over those guys
@BreakTheIce2224 ай бұрын
The fact that Hydras only take 1 supply and are a tier 1 unit is such a flex for broodwar zerg.
@LimitBreakr4244 ай бұрын
Any Artosis aficionados able to link any casts where Devourers win? I feel like the one time I saw them they lost
@2slick4u.4 ай бұрын
This content is so legit
@7878mechanic78784 ай бұрын
Why isn't mass dt used in the normal protoss army? seems like they can fight pretty well alongside zealots, but is it just not economical?
@matthewcrockett6044 ай бұрын
Damn I thought I'd make it here before others, lol 😂
@anthonyc7194 ай бұрын
Just a thought - did anyone let Rain And Zealot know the result of their series and what they thought about it? Ending the way it did any plans?
@serkan99704 ай бұрын
get this man a blanket
@-Nick-T4 ай бұрын
pvz, first lurker contain.. i remember the futility of trying to break it 20years later.
@brendan49174 ай бұрын
13:54 lol
@osirisra14764 ай бұрын
JANGBI STORMS!
@catra1954 ай бұрын
Unfortunate Soma had some good tweaks from the last game but You Really dont wanna be stuck on mass hydra that late in the game
@jirihutecka90204 ай бұрын
So easy for Bisu vs mass hydras with 5 bases and with 4 gasses.. The worst style of Z play for Protoss is when he just takes bases, makes defence and goes fast defiler. Controlling army of defiler, lings, lulkers is much harder than controlling mass hydra, but also much more powerful..
@susugam30044 ай бұрын
kim taek yong fighting!
@somekindoflandcow4 ай бұрын
Some of the sickest storms I've ever seen in this game, it almost makes me hate Protoss slightly less 😏
@Adrian_Franco4 ай бұрын
/masterclass/
@mattfox59334 ай бұрын
Sc2 has too many types of units. The simplicity of sc1 makes it more appealing to watch. Its the perfect mix of units and perfect balance
@Fanelan0534 ай бұрын
Nerd chills, hilarious
@Guiboard4 ай бұрын
It is not my intent to spam, but I left the same comment on your previous video: How do these guys get so high on the APM right at the start of the game? What's the point when all you have is 5 workers?
@osirisra14764 ай бұрын
To warm up / keep warm.
@zlatkoduic18934 ай бұрын
gg
@TagaBearClaw4 ай бұрын
ggs
@joelb12994 ай бұрын
Soma had nothing that game. Should've went into a hive.
@giovannigaronetti39814 ай бұрын
if i start like that (nexus with lings out) Z kill scouting probes and then roll over me with mass ling 100%. Only pro can start like that.
@SharpwithanE4 ай бұрын
For the algo
@Parkento4 ай бұрын
Hey guys ATOXES here by snow
@yyyy-uv3po3 ай бұрын
Best would have either ended this game at 14mn, or lost it ^^
@mikemitbut4 ай бұрын
Honest question: as someone who has literally only played fastest, zc, and ums maps is the learning curve to play regular old starcraft high? Lol like am I likely to get murdered the entire time with the pool of players that still play?
@TRYCLOPS14 ай бұрын
It’ll take some time to get used to for sure. But once you practice for a few weeks you should be fine 🤷♂️
@TheSuperappelflap4 ай бұрын
Probably for the first couple years you wont get to high ranks but there are plenty of people who are bad at the game.
@TRYCLOPS14 ай бұрын
@@TheSuperappelflap yes like me! 100% lol
@freehatespeech68044 ай бұрын
You will lose your first few hundred games
@mikemitbut4 ай бұрын
@@freehatespeech6804 lmao shit
@TomaszWinnicki4 ай бұрын
Excellent game from both players. Love to watch those big macro games bloodbaths. I thought Soma was going to win the game as wave after wave of hydras came down the map. But... most excellent tactical retreat-regroup-reattack from Bisu. Soma did not counter the storms with dark swarms.
@offensivebias87614 ай бұрын
cHiLlS
@TheAeolas4 ай бұрын
incredible how just 1 ht can decide the battle, totally well balanced ...
@riuoku4 ай бұрын
Auto like and comment for algos
@michaelfishman60824 ай бұрын
BvZ
@riuoku4 ай бұрын
Everyone in my country are crazy about soccer and stuff... POOR BOOMERS
@anvilarium904 ай бұрын
Spoiler !!!
@nicksterba4 ай бұрын
First 😎
@StoicFlame4 ай бұрын
You win.... you win.
@RyanJ141154 ай бұрын
Artosis plz just finish the soma vs bisu 1v1 I hope I'm not the only asking for this Please.just play the 9 games at once 10:40