Thank you

lol pfft

The snes version is much darker

@@troywright359 Yep, there it's a still image and you're just left to interpret what fate has befallen him.

You misspelled "traumatizing." Lol, but yeah, those death scenes were brutal. It was awesome.

If I used an s instead of a z, that's the UK spelling. I hope it was nothing goofier than that. Too afraid to check. ;) Yup, it definitely made sense to make the death scenes something special because we'd be far more likely to see them than anything beyond level 1.

We have far more gruesome deaths today than before

@@troywright359 nope

HEHE YEAH

Ha! If you ever needed an incentive to avoid dying... :D

Wh-Why do such games even exist...!?

I seem to remember someone else doing a whole video dedicated to Elvira death scenes. If that's the case, it would explain why I decided to skip that one at the time. It's been a few years, I'd have to check.

Ikr, but that drumroll tho 🤣

LOL. It's the sweet, adorable monsters you have to beware of. We only need to look to The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog for evidence. :D

Kid-friendly Gui- i mean Chopper!

Haha! And yet all the statistics on ladder death rates relate to falls. Nobody warns you about walking into them. ;D

i think i know what is happening, as he touches those spinning spike things, the jar in the bottom left corner starts to drain and i think that is his health, so it was not the stairs that killed him, it was spikes i guess

Hey! It took a lot of practice and dedication to become that bad at this game! It doesn't happen overnight! :D

@@dreamkatcha I think he means it looks like the Grim Reaper is saying "Good Job!"

Well, anything's possible. I imagine he'd be pleased I died because he gets to haul me off to the underworld and that's what he lives for. :)

My pleasure, glad to hear you enjoyed it. :) I think, given the far more primitive technology available back then, we tended to absorb simple images and then embellish them in our minds to create the rich, visceral experience contemporary developers are striving for... often missing the mark because they assume it's necessary to serve up everything on a plate. You can't beat human imagination, otherwise interactive fiction/text adventures would never have taken off.

Shark blows him up

That's refreshing to hear. Typically people have to grow up with the Amiga to appreciate what it has to offer.

@@dreamkatcha wouldnt have guessed given the shit ive seen told me the amiga was the wild west of 90s gaming, quite fun to witness

I see what you mean, good point. Apparently the tune was swiped from a Miami Vice scene. Jan Hammer composed it originally.

@@lukes8719 I know what you mean. Night Breed came with the Screen Gems pack so that for many people would be amongst the first games they experienced on the Amiga. If you only had a few to begin with they’d be played to death whether they were brilliant or not, and that’s enough to poke the nostalgia bubble today. I had a friend at the time who bought that pack and remember borrowing Night Breed from him, but didn’t feel the same sort of connection to it he probably did. I’ve since written a retrospective article on the action-platformer version comparing the movie and game and found it really interesting to see how one translated to the other. Without the source material I might not have given it so much attention, which really neatly explains why publishers were so keen to jump on the licensing bandwagon.

@@lukes8719 That was a deal-breaker for many of us including me. Convincing your parents to buy a machine that plays time-wasting, non-educational games is hard enough. Add to that Mega Drive games being at least £35 a pop and you’ve got no chance. The affordability arguments always used to confuse me… some people assumed it was insane to spent £399 on an Amiga 500, but that it made sense to buy a console for £130-150 and then most likely £50 a game after that. Cover disks were another big factor for me coming from a Speccy background. The consoles couldn’t compete with that until much later on. If you had limited funds they were a great stop-gap between full games. Often just as good if you weren’t someone who regularly completed games. In fact Amiga games were so much easier to come by from every possible angle whether it’s piracy, swapping, car boot sales etc. And so much more variety due to the barriers to entry being lower for publishers/PD hobbyists. I suppose Ocean were trying to cover more of the bases by tapping into multiple genres, and making the most of the license, which was already paid for. I like Nightbreed the movie in particular because it’s so bizarre, being based on the Clive Barker book. He’s definitely one of a kind - like an even darker Stephen King, so anything goes. More than anything it’s fascinating to watch the source material and put yourself in the developers’ shoes, batting around ideas re: which elements of the movie could be converted to game assets. You pick up on so much more detail when you get the total experience like that and you’re in the moment, rather than making judgements based on 30 year old memories. Thanks. That’s new - I don’t think anyone has ever said they’re looking forward to a video I made before. :D I thought my Godfather article would be a good choice to turn into a video because the franchise is massively popular, while the Amiga game is largely neglected so KZfaq isn’t saturated with opinions of it. The thing is though these long, talky retrospectives don’t go down well unless you’re a ‘personality’ with a silky smooth radio voice, so they’ve taken a backseat for a while now. As satisfying as they are to put together, they’re a lot of work and generate very little enthusiasm. That’s fine by me, feel free to comment all you like. I appreciate the feedback and to know that I haven’t wasted my time.

@@lukes8719 Had it been a few years later and we were talking about PCs the educational angle would definitely be true for me. At least in my case all the Amiga taught me was how to play games, I wasn’t doing anything creative or applicable to school with it. We got a dot matrix printer at one point, but it didn’t get a lot of use. I remember typing up a few documents for my mum. A shame really since the potential is there and lots of people owe their careers to the Amiga through learning how to code, compose music or whatever. SFII for the Amiga was awful if you knew that the original arcade and console versions were so much better. I had no point of reference at the time so remember still being pretty impressed with our port. Except for all the disk-swapping as you say. I’m pretty sure there were no commercial games based on Stephen King books for the Amiga and I can’t recall any for other retro systems off the top of my head either. I stumbled across a tacky smart phone game based on Pet Sematary recently, though it bears so little relation to the book/movie that it hardly counts. You’d think the idea must have been put to Stephen numerous times over the years so maybe he doesn’t approve of that kind of conversion. Interesting question anyway, I should look into that and see if I can find any relevant interviews. I should do some game/movie comparison videos on Nightbreed at least. It’s a lot easier complying with fair use regulations with the shorter videos. I really struggled with the Red Heat and Godfather reviews for this reason because I had so many clips all in the same longer narrated video and it tipped the balance in a number of places. I kept hacking off a few seconds of footage here and there and re-uploading to see if they’d be approved, and eventually they were. I can’t remember if I left the visual effect filtered versions (oil painting/sketch mode etc) in there in the end to try and work around the censors because they were revised so many times. That kind of thing tends to look ridiculous unless it’s a jokey video in the first place. The rules can be very arbitrary and vary based on the copyright holder’s preferences so it’s all a guessing game what they’ll let slide. What is OK today might not be in a year from now so approved videos can be killed at any point. Disney for instance can be quite stringent. I did one long 25 minute-ish comparison video on Roger Rabbit and it got blocked numerous times. In the end I chopped them into separate videos and they received the all clear. In that case the problem seemed to be with total duration of all clips. At other times you get stung for duration of continuous segments so one 30 second clip could be blocked, but not two 15 second clips taken from different parts of the same movie. I’ll get back to doing some more talky videos soon I think despite all the issues. I like to find subjects that other people haven’t covered like the Fantastic Voyage game even if the appeal is limited. I’ve written reams and reams on some of the movie licenced games which would make them horrendous to convert to video. Total Recall would be scary for instance. I don’t know how the popular KZfaqrs cope with all the comments they receive. Many of them I’m sure want to respond to everything, but when there are thousands for every video it’s likely impossible. Then a disconnect between producers and audience seeps in, which obviously isn’t ideal because they wouldn’t be bothering making the videos in the first place if it wasn’t for the audience watching/appreciating them. Especially if you’re making a full time career out of it. I imagined Stuart Ashen would have helpers (or a ‘community manager’) to keep tabs on all the comments he receives, but then he nixed that idea recently when he said his approach is just to ignore them all because there’s no way to keep up, and a lot of it is hateful dross anyway. Well that’s one way I suppose. There’s no excuse for ignoring the viewers at the other end of the spectrum of course when comments only trickle in. It’s easy for me assuming I get the notification email from KZfaq. I’ve noticed that doesn’t always happen - sometimes I’ll accidentally stumble across a comment from months back that I had no idea was there, which makes you look really rude through no fault of your own. I’m not sure how common this is on other channels. Keeping an eye out for comments on shared channels can be tricky too because the admin could be notified, but not the person who actually uploaded the video. I found that when I was uploading to the Amigos’ channel.

@@lukes8719 That's probably true for most of us who got into computing as kids. Oh wow, you can draw with a computer! Amazing! Then the next day we were too fixated with Lemmings to care. :D I was always really impressed by the people who knew their way around demo-making software. I was clueless, and still am. I seem to remember our printer being out of action more than it worked too. They're one thing that definitely *weren't* ‘better in my day'. There were always alignment issues, paper getting snarled up in the feeder, ink drying up and so on. I was really impressed with Body Blows for the same reason as SFII - a lack of exposure to other systems and their games. I mostly *watched* arcade games rather than played them and there was no local hangout anyway so it was purely a holiday event. Final Fight definitely looks amazing in the screenshots. A real achievement in terms of presentation if nothing else. There's a long thread on the English Amiga Board about remaking it to set the record straight, although I couldn't say if it will ever happen. It's been in the works for a long time now. I had a browse around for Stephen King games too after our conversation. I also found a 1985 interactive fiction title based on The Mist, plus a few others that you don't find if you search Moby Games for the author's name... gameverse.com/2019/07/23/the-weird-history-of-stephen-king-games/ A real waste not to tap all that creative potential… as long as the result doesn't end up like F13. The name would have earned a few knowing sniggers from computer geeks. It's got that going for it. Pity it amounts to a desktop distraction. I can't believe I didn't mention The Running Man earlier, especially considering I've read the book and seen the movie numerous times, written a massive article on the subject and even turned it into a narrated video. In my defence I've always associated it with Richard Bachman ...who is a totally different, unrelated writer. ;) It's really counterproductive for movie studios to be clamping down on KZfaq IMO. Unless you're uploading so much of a movie that it serves as a substitute for buying the full thing I don't see the problem. It's all good promotion and could generate sales. If you run a movie review channel the situation must be pretty depressing knowing that your days could be numbered. I suppose the workaround is to sit there talking to the camera showing a few stills, though you'd have to have the right persona to carry that off with so little other entertaining stimuli. Dedication to fans? LOL. A few people have said they like what I'm doing, but I've never heard that term bandied about before. Anyway, I don't know why KZfaqrs *wouldn't* want to get involved with the audience, it's what it's all about. If no-one is watching you may as well just talk at the wall offline. Well, I suppose if you're only in it for the ad revenue and people will continue to watch regardless of interaction that would explain it. It certainly seems to just be a business for some people. Once you cross that line the danger is only to do stuff that will be popular, not necessarily what you enjoy or find interesting. Then you become the equivalent of a mainstream TV channel, playing it safe, following trends etc. I listened to an interesting interview with Dan from Slopes' Game Room a while back on the subject of nasty comments. He said when he responded to the aggressive ones with kindness they totally changed their tune and were shocked that anyone from a big channel would bother reading or replying to their comments. They apologised and started behaving like decent human beings after that. Anonymity can have a strange effect on people. Nice to meet you too. There's still lots of passionate Amiga users around the web. You'll find plenty of them at forums like the English Amiga Board and Lemon Amiga aside from all the KZfaq channels. It's hard to find them in the real world these days, but that's overrated anyway. ;)

Until the floor be low

Always nice to know the Amiga and its games are reaching new audiences and actually being appreciated, thanks. :)

I've only ever seen him/her/it referred to as the green goblin, sadly. A recipe for an identity crisis! ;)

Nice find! I had no idea, being totally out of touch with modern gaming. I'm going to have to see if I can dig this out now.

It's an interesting game in general, although ruined by the extreme difficulty. Even so, it still dragged me down a rabbit hole leading to the production of a (cheating) longplay, text article and video review.

@@dreamkatcha I checked it out, thanks

That sounds about right to me. One good explanation for this is that there were few barriers to entry where Amiga game development was concerned (no licensing fees to pay to Commodore for instance), so much experimentation occurred. It was the wild west of coding and that's evident in the immense, often bizarre variety of output, particularly in the public domain arena. Hope you have fun exploring the back catalogue. There's literally no end to it given that Amiga games are still being produced to this day.

@@dreamkatcha can’t wait to dig in to this stuff

*amigo

In Italy the ads said "C'è l'hai l'Amiga? ("You got the "girl friend"?)

@@ENTR0PY Actualy, Amiga its reference to a friend, but for "girl" (my english is a little rusty xd)

No, I deliberately skipped this since someone else has already produced a whole video focused on this specific game... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l96hhcp10L28cWQ.html

I'd imagine part of this can be explained by the massive conglomerates swallowing up formerly independent outfits who were too small to have entire departments dedicated towards censorship and political correctness. Is it just as bad on Steam these days where the barriers to entry are lower?

Yeah, there's bound to be tonnes of other interesting ones that are worth capturing, it's just a matter of narrowing down a list. An insane part of me is suggesting going through the entire TOSEC library just to see what I can find. I wonder how many years that would take and if it would be worth the effort to see people's jaws drop at the madness of it all. :D Luckily it takes no skill to die, just a lot of time and frustration getting to that point what with all the emulation configuration issues. And so many games just say game over in a plain font on a black background.

@@dreamkatcha I see. Thanks for replying.

@@pocdavactube3475 No probs. Will this do? - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7dmhaySndTSqGQ.html Not quite every single game in existence, but most of the notable platformers not already covered here.

@@dreamkatcha Yes,it's perfect. Thank you so much for your hard work!

Shadow Warrior was before Final Fight.

@@pocdavactube3475 oh wow

Eh???

literally

U gay bro?

@@animationman7772 Ye, y?

Yes, true. That's covered in the description.

Thanks. Glad to hear you enjoyed it! :) I think you might be mixing up the arcade version of Final Fight's game over sequence with the Amiga's because I'm pretty sure the latter doesn't have one. Die-hard fans tend to deride the Amiga conversion because it's so diluted and rushed. Personally, I was really impressed as a kid when I first saw it, and don't hate it now. That said, I'd love to see the recently proposed Amiga remake come to fruition. Just checked out the death sequence/game over screen for Space Crusade on the Amiga. Agreed; that one would definitely have been worth including if I had been aware of it. I never got into this game so that one wasn't on my radar.

@@dreamkatcha could be. I have only played final fight alot on the arcade, and that ending was great. For the death ending in space crusade, the way your commander is left in dark spaceship with the juggernaut robot in the background, is trully a stuff of nightmare

This has been asked a few times already in the comments. Elvira and Waxworks have both been covered in dedicated videos on KZfaq by other people so I thought there would be little point in me attempting to replicate them. Plus, with games this expansive it would have taken forever to capture everything relevant.

@@dreamkatcha I see. It was a joke anyway, I know that these games have SO MANY game over screens that it would be a huge work to compile all of them and make the video longer than it already is. Would've been nice to see at least two of each, but if that's your choice I can respect that.

Nope, afraid not. I covered the reason for that in the description. If you browse around KZfaq you'll find a nearly 10 minute long video just on that one title's game over possibilities. There wasn't much point trying to compete with that.

@@dreamkatcha yeah that does make sense. Which death do you think was the scariest in waxworks?

I'd have to say death by slow moving mine cart. Just because it's so ridiculously unexpected there's always the danger of throwing something heavy at your screen in disgust. Then you get ricochets, it's a nightmare! ;D

Oh god don’t remind me of wax works it has a lot of deaths on it

I think a lot more slid under the radar back then what with not being under scrutiny of the mainstream limelight and developers/publishers making up the rules as they went along.

I wasn't fully abreast of the Spike Limitation Legislation at the time. Please accept my sincere apologies.

At horror?

The Lemon Amiga database currently includes 4616 games. It's inevitable one or two would be absent from this video. ;)

@@dreamkatcha Understandable

@@dreamkatcha is just that i made a video specifically of that.

I know there's one in the works, but it's not ready for testing yet unfortunately... eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=106882

Hmm, I suppose there are thousands more I could capture for a follow-up, but it could be a case of diminishing returns. You can only really do 'the best of' once.

Maybe James Pond 3 Could Be One Right

And Puggsy

Well, capturing the plethora of ways to die in Waxworks would have taken ages and there's already a great video dedicated to them on KZfaq... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l96hhcp10L28cWQ.html so I thought I'd pass on this one.

Most people I've spoken to are happy to see that game end, however it happens. ;)

That's a depressing, unfortunate oversight, agreed. Then again, you try capturing all this footage back-to-back, battling against regular guru meditations, running at accurate cycle speed and see how clearly you're thinking. ;p

@@dreamkatcha Fair enough, I see your pooint. Maybe someday you'd want to address this - or not. Good luck anyhow!

Good idea. I couldn't help going overboard, looking beyond the Amiga and also chucking in some relevant movie clips... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdx3h898mb-ReZ8.html

That's a Mac/Windows game. It's not available for the Amiga.

Oh ANOTHER WORLD IS ON THE AMIGA?

@@maxwellmegagamer8535 Yes, that's correct. It's considered one of the best/most artistically accomplished games for the system. You sound surprised?

The intro sucks. If you don’t realize ur in control which you likely won’t, you die and if you get out of the water you still die. What do you do?

​@@maxwellmegagamer8535 Well yeah, I bet everyone makes that mistake initially. I know I did. Then you try something different and work out what you have to do. If you get out of the water and keep moving, you'll survive... for a while at least. I can't say it's one of my favourite games because it's infuriatingly difficult/unforgiving and you have to repeat your steps so often, making it more of a chore than something that's supposed to be enjoyable. Personally, I'd rather watch the longplay.