How did your comment get less comments then the other ones

Yeah but its not the "truck" we want.

nah we dont need trucks. just have them deliver it. paying $200 delivery once or twice a year is cheaper than paying $1,000/month plus gas and insurance for the next 5-6 years

But in the same market you can buy the new Ford maverick which is far easier on the eyes, or a 1st gen gmc canyon (my personal daily driver) for cheaper, or an older ranger for a similar price to the canyon. All of which are better looking trucks and likely built a little more durably

@@dklein8207 you can’t speak for everybody

@@squidinkRC the majority of truck buyers probably 99% do not buy Honda's

So like a Subaru then

Well said good sir.

@Enough 35s can do some work in a short wheelbase vehicle like a 2 door Jeep, and still be extremely capable in longer wheelbases vehicles

Honda reliability? That rear diff is extremely complicated and over engineered. I’ll take my locker that is far more reliable and can bias way more torque to where it needs to go. . Slipping clutches = worn clutches. So if you off road a lot in the ridgeline you’ll burn down the AWD system far quicker. Eventually the clutches will lose their grip and you’ll lose more and more performance until it’s not much better than a fwd truck that goes into limp mode often.

@Enough There are quite a few people that does rock climbing with 35in tires, you typically see those more on Jeeps. Most of the trucks owners I've seen that do rock climbing used 33in, very rare you will see one used 35in.

I drive the old ass 1st gen RL. I drive the company’s 2019 double cab Taco, and I definitely prefer the RL over it. I have taken it off-road but nothing serious; I’m not a crazy outdoorsy person. It’s easy to live with for the most people. Throw my 3 kids in the back on long trips, no complaint. Tow a 18’ heavy flat bed, no problem. Load it up with sofa, no issue. All this and keep a cart full of groceries in the trunk LOL

@Donald Wright What kind of stuff you been smoking lately? To answer your question a Ridgeline can tow 5000 lbs and have apayload of around 1500 lbs. Try doing that with civic.

Why’d you lump a ranger in with ridgeline? No one was smack talking the ranger saying it wasn’t a real truck?

@Donald Wright I've owned and driven a 02' Civic from about years 2010-2016. The civic payload is like 800. One time, the car bottomed out when we took an off ramp of a hwy with the whole family in it, now taken the kids were half their weight back then. Now, the CRV is the "off-road civic"! There's locking Diff kits for them and the Element, but not for the RL!!! My neighbor has her CRV set for overlanding, and it's cool; that's her thing. She only hauls necessary things, nothing more. She said the RL is definitely more capable and wouldnt mind having one if her Hubby didnt have his f150. Ive had a civic, accord, my wife current has the odyssey, brother has MDX, his wife has the TL. These are our daily commenters. The workhorse are the 1 ton F350 and Ram3500. We use those for towing but not for running errands due to their size and harsher ride. The RL has it's niche. Its not for everyone just like every vehicle out there. So to say the Civic has the same capabilities as the RL, I differ than you on that due to my life experiences. We all live differently, so respect each others thoughts and opinions.

The Ridgeline has it's use if you're not pulling regularly and you aren't off roading sure. Now I do pull a 5,000 and 9,000 lb trailer with my F150. I average 19-20 around town and 22-24 highway depending how fast I drive. However I also bought it because F150's are built with years of input from extremely hard use, they are designed to take you to hell and back and they will do just that. You may never benefit from this but for example the engine block on an F150 sits more than 30" back from the front bumper, the radiator sits a full foot behind a very sturdy front bumper and on top of the leading edge of a full boxed front frame. The Ridgeline as a transaxle and a transversely mounted engine, this configuration puts the side of the block well in front of the axle. The consequence the transversely mounted engine is the side of the block is barely 12" from the made to collapse front bumper, with no frame member protecting it. It doesn't take much of an accident to force the radiator into the side of the block and punch a whole right through it, contact with the heads, shears the bolts, damage the gasket. In short even a minor front end collision and the Ridgeline is immobile and if properly assessed by your insurance adjuster, totaled. Same accident on the F150 or virtually any mid or other full size truck and all you got was a bent bumper and a crushed grill, more than likely the radiator survives. Should the radiator not survive it's not that difficult to either plug them or swap them out, if it's cool weather you can stop and refill it until you reach a service station. An engine swap on a Ridgeline is not happening in the field, if you managed to get yourself into a remote location you're in a salvage situation not just "a tow".

I did the same, now I own two. No regrets

A family member has a 2005 Ridgeline. Its held up very well. Not sure the mileage but i'm guessing its up there.

I have a Ranger Fx4 but spent all day on the road in a ridgeline a couple of days ago. It was a very comfy and smooth ride. It had good power too. For a designated street/daily driver it’s great! I do a lot of towing and trickier off road driving so it wouldn’t have worked for me but I am jealous of the ridgelines’s storage especially that trunk under the bed. That’s pretty sweet! I did find it hilarious that it had a little doughnut for a spare tire in there. How stupid is that for a truck!?? As the Joe Biden catch phrase goes “C’mon man!!”

Back? When was the ridge line a thing before 2004?

Aside from having absolutely no performance upgrades when you get the HPD, you should probably invest in quality suspension as well. Could have saved the $2800, bought a base ridgeline and upgraded the suspension for that money making it more capable.

​@@ritchierichh yeah because ppl are paying cash for their new trucks with HPD...🙄

@@MrRPM110 I never said they were paying cash. In the term of the finance loan, but even if they paid cash, they could have saved the $2,800 or used it on better components if they wanted off-roading capabilities.

@@ritchierichh but realistically the hdp is like 30-45 dollars extra a month tops instead of getting a lift professionally installed for 2800 out of pocket all at once.(or atleast a big chunk of that)

Soyboy weekend special!

@Norm Cheers I think you just described the ideal pickup for 90% of the population. Problem is there Normy, pragmatism and logic doesn't sell pickups. People buy based on uhh emotion, something that the Ridgeline elicits very little. P.S. I typed the above in Cliff Clavin's voice

@@aaronbehindbars I see mostly retirement aged males driving these. They just need a EV version for the retirement community.

@@normt430 You're not wrong about the demographics. I'm one of the younger Ridgeline owners, it seems.

@@aaronbehindbars definitely a old man's truck! Perhaps unexpectedly, a greater percentage of Ridgeline owners are male in comparison to other trucks in the segment. J.D. Power data shows that 89% of Ridgeline owners are men (vs. 85% for the segment). Ridgeline owners are also much older (64 years vs. 57 years) and enjoy a much higher median annual household income ($120,175 vs. $95,548).

Lord if I had a name like Michael Flynn these days it would be embarrassing.Good luck!

@@jabbadahuttful probably not as bad as throwing up a “heart sign” with your hands 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@venturahondo8218 Bothers you does it? I’m sorry that offends your delicate sensitivities. 😁

They never caught on because they were F*$K ugly. Same as the Avalanche by Chevy. The new Ridgeline is better looking with the updated front end, and probably will suite a lot of people looking for light utility work.

@@jabbadahuttful doesn’t bother me at all it’s just ironic that you’re trying to make fun of someone’s name that’s all. Have a good day fruit cake

Because it's a minivan with a bed.

Aftermarket can solve that.

I'd take a hard look at how close the side of the block on the Ridgeline is to the front bumper before even thinking about taking one anywhere skid plates are needed.

They might, ... next time around

@@dbowen22aw someones mad 😅

How do you know what's "right for most people"? Are you psychic or simply projecting your own stereotypes onto everyone else?

@@buckhorncortez Karen

If you are not pulling a huge trailer or doing extreme off road and need a truck bed, then the Ridgeline would work fine.

Minivans and sedans are also rational but everybody buys SUV's anyway.

I know this is an old comment but why did you end up selling it?

@@booker9816 I sold it and bought a 2019 Ford Ranger XLT off road. I was hoping to do an overland build but never happened 😂. The Ridgeline is a much better daily than the ranger and felt more premium inside. But the ranger is still a great truck and I like it. The AWD system on that thing was outstanding too. I live in the upper midwest where we get plenty of snow yearly.

its popular with old ppl because they are cool with paying more for a less capable vehicle with a lower ride so they can slide in and out easier than climbing into a tall half ton.

Oh, I forgot the other fun statistic that has nothing to do with the Honda particularly, but does in a roundabout way. In 2018, approx 438,000 RVs were sold in the US, of which 88% were towable and the average weight of the towable models was 5200lbs (dry weight). Now, without getting too deep into statistics, based on sales numbers for 2018 for trucks, this means the total sales of towable RVs was only enough to burden 13% of trucks sold that year. Additionally, for the Average weight to be 5200lbs (and knowing the minimum weight of towable RV's is in the 1500-2000lbs range) then the following approximation must be true: if the 5200lbs is both the median (middle) and average (unlikely that it is in fact both, but let's assume for the sake of this arguement), than 50% of towable RVs had a dry weight of 4000lbs or less. How does that work? Well consider the following: if I sold 100 rvs with 99 of them weighing 5000lbs and the last one weighing 25,000lbs, I would have (99*5000)+25,000=520,000 and 520,000/100=5200lbs. So although the average weight is 5200lbs, 99% of the sold vehicles are 5000lbs. This demonstrates how averages are used to lie in advertising quite nicely, as I could honestly advertise that the "average" RV is too heavy for the Honda, when in fact 99% were at its max tow rating. To mathematically address this again, if 75 of the 100 sales were 4000lbs, and the remaining 25 8800lbs, the 5200lb average would remain true. Same if it was 50 4000lbs and 50 6400lbs. One could still say, "the average RV was too heavy for a Ridgeline" when in fact 50%/75% in these examples were 1000lbs under its max and fully towable by it. This is how dealerships con you into too much capability for your needs. So, without knowing the exact mix, but knowing that the average dry weight was 5200lbs for that year, one can state that in all likelihood, half or more of the towables sold in 2018 were likely light enough to be towed with a Honda Ridgeline. It should also surprise no one after reading this that I am a data analyst at a financial that finances over half a billion dollars in auto and recreational vehicles from dealerships annually in the great lakes region (and many more private party loans, thank you facebook marketplace and craigslist). My job is to know the numbers and read all of these statistics and surveys, and the numbers do say that the Honda could meet the needs of a large portion of truck owners. Not the 90% typically thrown out there, but based on the surveys I quoted earlier, and the RV market data, it could meet the needs of about 70% of it. Fact!

Wondering if you have life experience to accompany your analytical analysis. If you use a truck at the top of its tow/payload rated capacity for long, you are probably not going to enjoy the experience unless you like white knuckles. Good to have more than you theoretically need when things go sideways. And they always go sideways at some point.

@@daviddavis5149 learned to drive in the woods in a stick shift half ton chevy, learned to tow hauling shit on the farm. Went to college for engineering and interned for GM designing transmissions, minored in finance. I know the limits, I know the j2807 towing standards, and I can 1 try hook a pintel hitch in a f450 dump truck using mirrors only, no backup cameras and cheaters for this guy. Good attempt at trying to invalidate me to stroke your ego, but the numbers don't lie, 70% of trucks aren't used to tow or off road.

@@jg8263 Relentless self promotion is not a super power. Get over yourself.

Solid! Imho 95% of pickup drivers could use this all day long… see way more city slickers coal rolling than I should. Parents own 100acres and I’m not as healthy, so an off-roader makes sense to me… but I don’t NEED it technically.

@@supersymun "Way more city slickers rolling coal" Yes, the Super(Market) Duties!

@@supersymun I would agree with you. I live in the upper Midwest. I had one and the AWD is incredible and great in the snow. They payload is perfect and the towing capacity is more than what I needed and what most people need.

Ridgeline is not competing with Tundra. It's the Taco.

@@misterle7026 the taco also has more capabilities. But some try to make the point that most truck buyers could do just fine with the Ridgeline and just want a larger truck for the looks

@@dalephillips8250 what capabilities are you talking about? Like ride comfort capabilities? Range capabilities? Like being able to fit a full sheet of plywood capabilities? Or have a lockable trunk capabilities? Or turning radius capabilities? Or driving in Rain, Mud, Snow capabilities?

@@misterle7026 driving as it will go more places off-road than the Ridgeline. Also towing capacity is more on the Tacoma. Ride comfort is better on the Ridgeline

@@dalephillips8250 your definition of off-roading is rock crawling. Many places on this planet does not have mountains or large rocks. If it's just mud, dirt, or sand I would pick the Ridgeline over Taco any day. Towing, if 5k lbs is not enough for this light truck, you 're just endangering yourself and everyone behind you. The Ridgeline dry weight is 4.5k lbs. And you are planning to tow something that weigh more than itself. Please stop.

Well arent you the clairvoyant. .....fourth direction......haha

My son has a Gladiator Mojave. With the suspension on the softer side the ride off road is outstanding. The Mojave has the best on road ride of the jeeps. We rode from Portland Oregon to Glacier Nat Park and back. The ride was comfortable and quiet. Two weeks ago we ran several of the off road tracks east of Mount Hood and with the tires aired down the ride was great. We came across a Tacoma changing a flat on the side of the road. To get around we had to place the front tire up on a 8" log, with the solid axel it was a breeze. So I disagree it does not need IFS.

@@Hooner77 They marketed it as a desert runner which all have IFS. Crawling over things like logs is rubicon duty. So the Mojave is just a rubicon with softer shocks and no front locker.

The Ridgeline at it's current price is a joke lol. If you don't want or need a real truck get a Maverick. If you do then get a F250 base its almost the same cost as a Ridgeline.

Agree

The AWD system can handle it. I'm not sure about the tires though.

Some definitely don't realize that the Ridgeline is as hard-core as they'll ever need. Modern cars and modern traction control are far superior to things 20 years ago

It wasn’t made to compete against the gladiator

@@thorsbeat it doesn't really compete against anything with it being a Pilot with a bed!

Overheats on hills! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJuVeJlqnMfVdZs.html

@@normt430 That's not the same transmission. The old 6 speeds were prone to that, but the new 9 speed has been quite reliable.

Ridgeline Trailsport in other words.... It's a solid idea, and I would not be shocked to see it next year if the Passport Trailsport sells well.

Jsport, Traxxda and other aftermarket companies has all of these things that you'd wished for. Look them up.

Thats a bummer. I have owned 5 Hondas and 600K miles between them. Literally regular maintenance is the only thing I have ever had to do.

I had the same experience with a Subaru that I bought my wife for the “reliability”. It’s was complete junk. There are lemons out there but it was bad enough that I’ll never buy another one.

I did the same with a tundra. Worst truck I ever owned by far.

I barely see Honda claims at my job if I do its and older 2012 or lower model with piston ring issues. But other than that nada.

Counter point, I have a 2015 CRV EX AWD that is about to hit 80k miles with zero issues and has only been in the shop for routine maintenance. Still on the original brakes as well, had to change out the tires though because those OEM Bridgestone's were trash.

I have the same question. Maybe Honda made some custom brackets in order to mount the Thule bed rack.

It can work. Nothing custom. Even has a 160+ RTT on there off-road, so that 600+ Thule capacity should be fine too. I think the side bars are key for stability. Plus having a Honda rep on the video gives that Thule built out the nod.

The higher you make a vehicle the worst miles per gallon you get. Too much air going underneath the vehicle causing a lot of drag

You say most people don't "need a full-size truck", full size trucks seem huge compared to cars, when you see them on the streets highways, etc. However take that full-size truck to a remote location, on a fishing, camping, hiking or hunting, trip they seem to shrink before your eyes. The 9" of ground clearance seems insufficient, the room in even a crew cab small, even the bed could be larger when all that you have is what you brought with you.

@@Steve-yr5vi they are also too wide for alot of those remote locations. Maybe you need a camper van.

Yea it’s kinda skewed. People consider dirt roads going off road. Weird.

@@embeaston but a dirt road usually is off the road 🤷‍♂️

@@MC4D. Road is right in the name, dirt road. Even no winter maintenance dirt roads are still roads as people drive them to get to their homes.

@@darylcopp9013 I think you missed the sarcasm behind my comment lol. I agree with maxnautical's comment.

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Some people think off roading means big rocks and 55° hills

@@thorsbeat and some people think off road means back alleys

And yet, they never left the road.

@@brentworls8509 Grand Canyon National Park. There are some limits in place to prevent people from just tearing up the wilderness.

That pretty Honda girl said around 8.7" with HPD lift package and 8.1" stock.