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Phuq nintendo ! I have all the gameboy, nes, snes send n64 romz, and when I'm done downloading all the gamecube and wii u romz, i will focus on getting ALL the 8/10 and above switch roms ! The gaming industry has 0 scruples, 0 moral, 0 respect for gamers, and are manipulating and stealing hundreds of billions from gamers, via $20+ 'micro' transactions, season passes, lazy-ass dlcs. shameless 'buy the $110 version to play 24 hours earlier' versions, etc etc. Gamers should also have 0 respect, and should be downloading and playing ALL the roms that exist today!

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I think it's about control.

@@Grim_Concept yet they will always fail at that

​@@Grim_Conceptnintendo is a publicly traded company in Japan So they have shareholders who are probably old men who know nothing about video games To those shareholders it could be difficult for Nintendo to explain why they're missing out on any amount of profit and why they aren't going after the people costing them money

Meaning.... they lost. If they give up, that's a loss.

They should spend that money on actually developing good games

You gotta grow big and weaponize resistance against a corporation like Nintendo

unless you’re actually making money off it, then they apparently don’t care

And they will lose like the yakuza they are

​@@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanzathey Are more like the Japanese mafia than a company

100th like

The whole point is to sell re-releases for every new generation of hardware. I've bought Super Mario 64 about half a dozen times at this point. They're copying the Disney Classics strategy verbatim.

​@@TwoTreesStudioI didn't even have a problem repaying for an old game, so long as the price was right for what I was getting. What I've got a problem with is losing that content. I bought a handful of games for my Wii U, Ducktales Remastered among them, and I loved that game as much as I loved the original on NES as a young teen. But with there being no easy way to manage games, and stores closing, you end up losing your games. Which of course works well for them, since they just get to charge for the same content again.

@@TwoTreesStudio Yeah but they are never re releasing that Princess Peach knock-off or like 90% of FE

@@Xoulrath_ "with there being no easy way to manage games, and stores closing, you end up losing your games" it seriously blows my mind that this is legal, it absolutely should not be

@@TwoTreesStudio I do not disagree at all. It should be illegal as it essentially boils down to theft. But that's what those EULAs do: they basically make it so that one agrees to God knows what in all of those pages of legal speak.

the person who made emulation wondering why a guy dressed as mario has a shotgun to his head:

They have a whole division dedicated to emulation

Someone should say, the Game Genie is out already!

piracy is epic

They cannot, reverse engineering for the purpose of homebrew is allowed under assumption that such homebrew did not exist or isn't permitted by the mechanism and checks in place. If a homebrew software, that was running on the hardware earlier is now reduced to no functionality, measures to circumvent such check/mechanism is allowed. Neither can dicksendo outlaw emulators (their snes mini is running an emulator itself) nor can it prevent a bwitch mod that allows homebrews to run on the system. There may be additional accommodation for outdated and discontinued consoles that suffer from this.

No, you don't understand. They've finally done it this time. This one is actually impossible to crack. /s

@@LordSandwichII COPIUM but seriously people always crack DRM no matter what its why leaks happen so often also the DRM harms people who buy the game because it means the performance will be even more crappier especially on switch hardware

​@@LordSandwichIIimposible to crack? That sound like Cope

lmao. Let me tell this. It's not impossible. It just take at bit more time than before, but games are still getting cracked, also gaming companies are so damn greedy they are unwilling to pay for the service of Denuvo beyond the 1st few weeks of release. The reality is. Paying Denuvo is just wasting money that hurts the buyers more than the pirate themselves since they gonna more often than not a better running games because Denuvo DRM is just a damn plague to PC's @@LordSandwichII

​@@SeaNBlackthe fact both of you goobers fell for the joke/sarcasm is funny

That is a crazy thing to pray for 🤣

@@zormein it beats praying for world peace

@@zormein hey you gotta have faith in somethin'

Even rhythm games tend to use Denuvo these days, and while I am no good at rhythm games myself, their discord is full with videos of otherwise Perfect scores that were lost to denuvo's constant lags. Screw Denuvo, if Nintendo pulls through with this threat, I might just start to pirate their games as a means to spite them.

Denuvo better start praying when Starfield drop. People already has confirmation that denuvo cracker already set their aim on it. So if they really did put a denuvo in it, the one who crack Dying Light 2 ( previously proudly claim by Denuvo that is uncrackable ) gonna make Todd roast Denuvo to well done.

15 fps max

​@@TheKitty699144p 15FPS

Isn't that the Switch standard? I would say 10 max @@TheKitty699

​@@RomnysGonzaleznah it explodes because the fans can't handle the stress lol.

Three fiddy

I support emulation and piracy too. There should be no reason i cant load up my switch and purchase a copy if say pokemon crystal or pokemon soul silver... they disabled the 3ds eshop too which is mind blowing. These older games cost upwards of 300$ sometimes.

Exactly. If they are not being sold by the brand or someone who bought the IP from them then it should 100% be legal.

Some games can only be optained via emulation like earthbound

Retro gaming scene is riddled with scams and laundering now. Emulation is the only real way to enjoy older titles...

Same. The switch is an odd case because it's still a "current" gen console. I can understand Nintendo not wanting to divide their fan base like they did with the new 3ds, but at the same time the switches age clearly shows they need new hardware. I laugh when I play Xenoblade Chronicles because I can hear and feel the fans on my switch going into high gear.

The only thing Nintendo actually wants here is control. To do that, they want to stamp out every single alternative pipeline but their own means and the third-party online resales which they indirectly benefit from by causing the prices of their games to appreciate. Going by their love of artificial scarcity, even making their games scarce and not buyable is all part of the plan, since they see scarcity as a tool to raise demand. Nintendo wants everything to play into their hands more than it wants its own games to be strictly available or to reap profits from them. When they control the prices of their back catalogue, they can better offer it for purchase again and again, and essentially take advantage of the fact that they’re the only option people can turn to other than even more expensive online resellers. It’s no wonder they hate emulation for granting people a convenient, simple alternative that works for everyone, improves game performance and bypasses all their manipulative marketing schemes.

​@jxwong_3982 yes, yes yes yes, the best explanation I've heard all day

Won't emulate? What kinda shit am I reading? Do you actually think Nintendo is gonna port all the shit over? No. They're gonna make them run on an emulator, which means even if they go on the shop, we will just be emulating them by playing them anyway

"But if you let us buy them on eShop, we won't emulate." I don't believe that for even a second.

@SpectralDynamite exactly. If they put them on the eShop they're gonna be under emulators. So we'll have to emulate them on their service anyway

Age of calamity split screen with denuvo💀

Not to mention how some DRMs are straight up rootkits, similar to that Genshin anticheat driver that got shipped with some malware a while back

True. You can get it absolutely free of charge, even windows 10/11 have free cloud backup.

The worst part is if you quit paying, they delete your data after like 90 days. The ultimate F you to the consumer

@@tymtrppr3 I learned this the hard way last year and sold my switch lmao

This coming from the same company that makes you pay to use your own internet (peer2peer is based off player net not a dedicated server)

PlayStation does the same thing. If you don't have PS+ you aren't saving to the cloud. Nintendo at least allows cross platform play.

"This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object."

And that's why I hate emulation, I must support Nintendo, I'd rather go with a big company than a "Community" fix

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​@@joshuajefferson3504Nintendo has one of their pockets inside out and has them hold onto it while they walk around

​@coastaku1954 Wow just wow...

Yeah, I'm not convinced at all. I think they're assuming that every single torrent download of Game X is a lost sale when doing the math, which I think is probably far from the truth because I think they're vastly underestimating the amount of people who simply wouldn't have played the game at all if they couldn't pirate it - there's probably nearly every gamer in the entire third world, gamers in places where "everyone does it" and the authorities DGAF, e.g. the balkans, people who pirate the game to try before they buy (but maybe that's less common with better refund policies these days?) who might've even bought the game since, there's straight up thieves and whoever else I'm forgetting. Subtract all of those from the number of times Game X has been torrented and the number might approach the actual number of potential lost sales. I suspect the real numbers aren't nearly what the DRM industry would have you believe, but I think it would be difficult to know for sure either way.

Denuvo protected games get cracked basically the week they are released

​@@Redhotsmasher A common practice is to also "pirate" games not being sold. (Buying from another individual is legal for some reason, but if you don't pay money suddenly it is illegal despite the company getting none.) Old releases get pirated more. Given how far off we get data for "pirating" it is possible the numbers aren't even 10% of what they claim.

Growing up you'd never realize how terrifyingly accurate the character "Mr Krabs" was and yet in some ways these companies are even worse

Nintendo would sue God for making men able to grow moustaches like Mario and for creating animals which resemble pokemon.

Reminds me of how Disney got mad for a grave having spiderman on it.

not funny

real

And they would and could. It's their IP

I know hard-core collectors who have thousands of games from the past 30 years. They prefer to play on emulators. It makes sense to preserve your original copies. Discs get scratched. Batteries die and ruin games. Cartridge pins get scuffed.

​@@nojuanatall3281the console also could be fuked OG Xbox capacitor leaking, x360 rrod, ps3 ylod, my own ps2 failing to display image properly

Also, is that a meat cleaver?

@@bitelaserkhalif *slash*!!!!!

Same people who say this unironically support authoritarian 'GuN cOnTrOl' though.

Car brained moment

Not accurate. It's more like speeding. Because a significant portion of people speed.

You don't own them, remember? At least that's what the game companies base been trying to push for years now. Unfortunately they've been pretty successful convincing the uneducated masses...

you vill """"own"""" nothing, and you vill be ""happy""

Unfortunately this really is how game companies and the law see it. If we look at the terms of service of any software, we’ll see that what we downloaded/bought isn’t the game itself but a limited license to use the game that can be rescinded by the publisher. From their POV, we don’t own the actual game. This is how big game companies feel they can exert so much pressure over our access to their games. Perhaps comparing piracy to trespassing is a more apt comparison than the often-used but heavily flawed “theft” comparison. Video games are intellectual property, and we’re all tenants on that property hoping not to get evicted. Nintendo in particular is one of the most publicly abusive IP landlords in the video game industry.

according to them, games are a service, not a product. therefore you are just renting their games. they are pushing for a future where people dont own anything anymore, and it wont be just games.

@@heyjeySigma be happy don't worry 😁

I don't disagree with the option to purchase their older games. But in a world where we are constantly told that we don't own the game, and only own a license to use it, buying it outright doesn't fix the problem either. As for the subscription service, for $80 a year for the best tier to share with 8 people, that's a pathetically low price that even in a best case scenario gets you eight $10 games for purchase. Or it gets you and seven others access to hundreds of games that you might not ever try otherwise, or simply might not bother to buy again. At the end of the day, options for the customer is the best bet.

I really want to buy a lot of the old games Nintendo has on Switch Online, but I really don't like subscriptions. I wanna pay a higher fee, but have it for keeps. Not pay $20 a month forever.

Add "on PC" to that list. I will never settle for anything less.

This is not true

​@@evdestroy5304its true

@@wyattbarnett3877 The fact that Yuzu exists means this isn't true.

@@evdestroy5304 ?

​@evdestroy5304 it's not my fault that Nintendo's hardware struggles to run games designed specifically for it and it alone

it's simple: subscriptions make more money than single payments.

​@@alicevioleta3184....Then why is both Sony and Microsoft offering their legacy games separately?

@@alicevioleta3184 I hear you and you’re not wrong in masse. I just wish there was an option for both. Like, everything on Disney plus can be purchased separately, even if you may have to wait. But that’s for new content, we are talking 20+ year old content. I get the discounted 1yr switch online for like 20$ a year, that’s like $2 a month, but spent way more than that on roms for Wii per month. Maybe for most people, it gets more out of them, but I’m like…literally asking Nintendo if they would want to have more of my money for 20+ year old shit that doesn’t need any work, and they, a publicly traded company are just like…nah fam don’t sweat it.

@@marmilaied5218 Because they want to appeal to those who won't give into the subscription service.

@@Dragoonsoul7878 Exactly, so why can't Nintendo do the same?

I intend to at some point, but I want to upgrade to a newer switch before I attempt. 1. In case I somehow screw something up in the simple process and brick my switch ( I have a gen 1 switch). 2. So I can still enjoy their online service ( emulators), and E-shop without fear of being banned.

Funnily enough, you might be incorrect about that not being illegal. The elements that make emulation legal are only in works with intellectual property that are not pursuant to patents. It's a lot of background information, but the gist of it is that the case law that makes emulation legal only applies when patents aren't being violated, so at the very least for the case of Tears of the Kingdom, where Nintendo filed for many different patents, that game might be illegal to emulate. Although case law for this matter is a mess to parse through if I'm being honest.

Ok, have to correct myself for something I said in my previous comment. Playing a ROM of a game using an emulator is not legal, not even if you own the game, unless the game has entered public domain.

idk how to hack my (HAC-001) switch tho

​@@TheCommanderTacoI was worried to but look up how to mod your switch with emunand, basically is a second switch os that runs on your SD card so you can mod and everything without getting banned as long as you don't connect to Nintendo severs, and if you wanna play online just restart your switch and it will boot to sysnand with out mods.

@@overused6632because older games that are not commercially available deserve to be preserved, even if they are available through 3rd party sellers/ retro game stores those same stores are jacking up prices just for their own benefit. Emulation is preservation first, entertainment second. Mutahars statement about who tf is gonna play the smurf dance party stands, no ones playing it but we’re glad it’s there

Another bs "preserve" argument. We all know most of the users use emulator to pirate. Emulator is not really legal, watch Moon video (a lawyer) actually explain the reason behind such misconception

@@overused6632 You can't even buy most of Nintendos older games legitimately anymore.

@@overused6632 I'll give you an example of a game from my childhood that might help you understand: There was a video game series Disney tried to make called Spectrobes early on in the DS' life cycle. Got a couple sequels but didn't really take off. Game is roughly 20-ish years old at this point now. Only ways to play it are buy a physical copy off some weirdo who looks like they might price gouge you/sell your organs on the black market or sail the seven seas. That game is no longer commercially available anywhere outside of a random backwoods Gamestop 50 miles away from the nearest residential area unless Nintendo ports it to the Switch at some point (which I doubt). You might be wondering if there would even be an "audience" who'd play a game like Spectrobes but that's part of the point. Nintendo probably won't port it over to the Switch at any point because there probably wouldn't be a big enough audience. That's where emulation steps in. Emulation prioritizes that game still being able to be played long after the cartridges for the games fail, even if there is only a few people who'd ever play it. Why? Because it's important that the game still "exist" as a part of "history" rather than fade away. As for the stealing bit, I'll leave it at this very simple viewpoint: I can't buy Spectrobes from any official sources (Disney, Nintendo, etc. except for maybe some random Gamestop out in Bumf^ck Nowhere). Nintendo, Disney, and so on aren't making money off the game anyways and none of them would ever bother to remake or port the game over. It is the definition of "abandoned." Unless you're a weirdo who stands on "principle" to the Nth degree where you'd literally get a IRL game over instead of "stealing" abandoned stuff, stuff that's been abandoned is a bit less questionable in my mind to sail the seven seas over.

​@@overused6632Found the mf who didnt watch the video

They were bankrupt until they took a chance to Mario. Now, the success has blinded them. They have forgotten just how horrible they had it in their beginning.

OoT is a poor example now, I hate to say. Sure, its a crappy port, but it IS available on Switch now...the other examples are good though

It's a tough argument to make in some cases, because as you stated "hoarding intellectual properties". Might mean at some point they could plan to use said property for a re-release or their online service. What really gets me is why Nintendo of late has been doing "limited" releases of their older titles and making it harder to get. I truly did want to buy the 3D all stars collection just to play some Mario games I have never played before, but I held off too long and now the only way I can obtain a copy is to pay Jim Jimbob $100+. I was lucky I bought the Fire Emblem game right away. Then there was the DBZ game they only gave out for pre-ordering FighterZ lol. Even though they could easily list these games back as digital on their E-shop they have not.

Nintendo hasn't LOST anything. They've always been this way.

​​@@TheCommanderTacoMario's All-Stars 3d is going for that price now? Damn...glad I bought an extra sealed copy and held onto it. I'll hold onto it for a few years and profit!

Maybe if they spent more time on making good games and not this nonsense this is why their games have been trash made for 5 year Olds

​@SicilianSwissvalian haha and if they would make a console that wasn't already obsolete by the time it releases to the public, the games wouldn't be so easy to run on even older hardware.

All DRM is redundant. The pirates will never have bought it in the first place, and always affects the people who bought the game. It's a waste of resources in all possible ways.

@@elhazthorn918 DRM Crackers love a challenge just ask EA about Spore xD

Not true at all. Sure there are a fair amount of people that legitimatly pirate games and emulate them but I own physical copies of my games that I emulate.

ratio + Nintendo owns you 😭

we KNOW how denuvo works, it's just a pain in the ass to crack it

It's not weird for nintendo to use AI art, they don't care about morals or what is right or just, all they care is about their bottom line. Most likely the reason they don't want you to emulate even old games, is because they may want to sell you a "remastered" (upscaled via emulation) version of the old game for 30 bucks for the switch or whatever console they make money at any time.

@@TheShitpostExperience Which is fun. Guys on internet do better job FOR FREE. How they even make games WORSE by porting them?

@@TheShitpostExperience "Remastered?" Most of their old titles being resold are just straight ports or downloads off the eshop they're blatantly trying to resell you the same game you probably already own 3 different copies of for various consoles

Then no one would buy switch and switch games. People would play it on pc, xbox etc and buy games for much cheaper on these platforms. They would go bankrupt

​@@Ali-lm7uwoh no, a public company going bankrupt! Quickly, release Nintendo Switch 2!

we don't need them to stoop all the way down to Sony's level tho

@@Ali-lm7uwNintendo fanboys would still buy their consoles and they would still make money selling them on other platforms

the better ideas are a) bring back virtual console because nso has no gaems and you don't even own them b) make a better sale than 15% off once in a while c) add games to nso like xbox game pass d) have regional pricing because (while russian eshop did close due to current events) i am not sure russians (and other countries where the average wage isn't quite high, i use that example because i live near russia, sorry) can afford to buy virtual entertainment for 6000 roubles (roughly equivalent to 60 dollars) because they don't quite make that much money (except in places like moscow i guess)

We were to worried about machines fighting us that we never thought about them fighting each other.

then suddenly people will "like" AI just because it would bolster piracy in the way you explained and every anti-AI argument will suddenly be swept under the rug

@@Amsel_616 wow god point ! aka Terminator 2 lol. good point

The Philippines, China and Russia have even more broken copyright systems. Piracy and plagiarism are widespread even among the largest major companies. For some reason, they can make bootleg knockoffs and get away with it, and they even make bootlegs of bootlegs, and bootlegs of those bootleg bootlegs. Bootleg-ception!

They probably don't care because they're still probably gonna make money

Eh, VirtualBox still has perfectly legitimate uses even if you're "pirating" Windows. Emulators take away how much Nintendo controls the tap on their content, so they can't hard sell you again on thier stuff.

@@No-mq5lw simple then Nintendo should make their products better and not cost full price even after 20 years

Microsoft doesn't believe in forcing people to use their own products. That's why on windows you could use Linux, chrome, firefox, steam, epic, nvidia and whatever else you want to

​@@Ali-lm7uw"use linux" linux is an entire other OS and you have to jump through hoops on any prebuild with windows on it to be able to do so. microsoft absolutely wants you using windows.

Also the people who make emulators and preserve games do so out of pure passion. Every time nintendo has re-released old games on newer hardware, it pales in comparison to popular emulators in terms of features and performance. Every single time.

The problem is one lost customer is nothing for them Everyone is against drm but nobody will decide to not buy it if it has it Heck Payday 3 has now online only everyone is mad about it but everyone is still gone buy the game (me included and I played pd2 offline allot)

Nintendo has never had an issue with emulation as a whole, and as a technique-it’s just independent emulation of their games and consoles that hasn’t been sanctioned by them that they dislike. For them it’s not about the act of emulating, but the alleged act of infringement that removes the absolute control they would otherwise have over their own games and systems. I don’t agree with their stance on emulation, and I don’t believe that emulation is illegal. I myself have emulated old Nintendo games, and I really do want them to make their back catalogue more accessible. But I do think that they’re not inconsistent in what they believe, just that their logic is of course relentlessly greedy and corporate.

But when it's any other game company it's a completely different story

Those 22 babies could have had a knife or an atom bomb. Nintendo saved the world like always.

We have a moral obligation to preserve the past.

Like he said while it struggles to hold 30 on the switch on PC it can do 4k 60 no problem once you experience it you wont be able to settle for less when a better alternative is available

People are using emulation to put their games on the PC, most of the time to keep it longer, physical games don't last forever.

if you can't find the copy of the Old games in your game store or the game you bought runs like Dog water on PC gotta get a "stunt double"

Unless it's an indie game. But if it's Nintendo, then it's always morally correct.

​@there's some pretty shitwater indie titles too

@MapleGunnerBhoyyou know what i don't care either way

you can't pirate the indierinos! why? j-just because okay??!!@

Careful, that first statement might incite a riot somewhere on the internet.

@@mirandamanga9083 i don't really care what people who say "well i wasn't gonna buy it anyways so who cares?" think. if you weren't gonna buy it what makes you think you have any right to experience it?

why would you be nervous man?? TONS of ppl got hacked 3ds's. Nintendo can suck it for removing their store. Just dont upgrade ur 3ds and never go online

I turn on my modded 3DS to use Pokebank for transfer, suddenly it's not working. I wonder if it's because, I redownload Pokemon Go, and I allowed access to my photos/videos, some of the photos and screenshots are 3ds related stuff. 😅.

Don't be nervous you wield something they fear you hold the power. Never again will you be forced to pay 3rd party sellers for 10+ year old games

Screw the new games costing that much, they barely drop prices even on old games it's ridiculous.

@kev2034 exactly why I pirate new and old games. They are a multi billion dollar company that cant even make old games cheaper and get mad when people pirate them.

The DMCA needs a huge overhaul.

damn

damn

Damn

Damn

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Shhhhhhh let them sink deeper... let the waves of greed leave only but half eaten shells... let the lady of the depth judge there very presence amongst the surface dwellers as useless...

It's enjoyable

Nintendo ninja's want to know your location...

fr, i have the entire nintendo catalog of consoles emulated

all the copys im playing with are legal copys i own, so they can get mad all they want lmao

especially when nintendo releases ports or remake of games that are over 10 years old at full price (wii u, wii, ds, n64, snes, etc), and their subscription paywalls for retro games

L Nintendo L japan… not cool

I don’t think it was emulation that was made illegal in Japan, but offering console modding and save editing services? It’s possible for Nintendo to still have had a hand in the creation of the law though.

​@@jxwong_3982seems to be that one I'm also scared automakers going the same route

@@jxwong_3982 that's the thing, supposedly they did push for it a lot

I wouldn’t be surprised if they really did lobby or otherwise push for the creation of the law, given how strongly they feel about protecting their own IP and trade secrets. Neither would I be shocked to discover that they weren’t alone in this respect. In the USA, Nintendo and the larger organisation it’s part of, the Entertainment Software Association (which counts many large digital entertainment companies among its members), have also done a lot of lobbying for stronger IP protection and anti-piracy laws.

My honest reaction

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Oh yeah

Eyo, hol up

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