AuroraKnux right on

Forces is gonna be shit, even sonic mania wasnt great.

My same exact opinion!

Yeah we've already been through the dark age of sonic Since shadow the hedgehog started it. F**K Whoever says sonic forces is awful

Thara1409 You mean every single review?

El Friki Fernandez don't mean shit

It isn’t garbage

El Friki Fernandez so Green Hill in Forces should just be a retread of Mania.

El Friki Fernandez did you really need to call him a faggot for that statement??

Ignore that rude guy . So mania made green hill more interesting by having plenty of branching paths and having a different version for it for knuckle. While forces is kinda bland and pretty much uninteresting.

Make that two.

Edgy Account name yeh lol

Hiltonium how unfortunate since I've seen multiple people including myself annoyed by both games tendency for nostalgia Edit: shit I just re-read this and realized I sound super condescending sorry about that, I'm not trying to be. It's just I haven't really seen the type of people you're addressing in the vid very often if at all.

Edge of the Night Exactly

Yes.

Exactly. Am I the only one who thinks that the fanbase is the one causing how each review turns out? I mean, with Sonic Mania, everybody is saying that it was gonna be great, and eventually the reviews agreed with them. With Sonic Forces, the “fans” said it was gonna suck, and the reviews considered it average. Now remember Rise if Lyric. EVERYBODY said it was gonna suck, and ultimately, it did. I really don’t think this is a coincidence...

R Linders Nah, it's because those games actually suck.

@@blackpants7385 no they don't I love all of them

It's the Sonic fanbase, they hate everything new.

TophatGeo yeah it looks like shit

TophatGeo yes is bad.

claw 10 Because it's not the original genesis game or mania, I presume? That's all you people like. You need to stop following the bandwagon and actually realise that SEGA is hard at work to make this game good and what do you do? Constantly say it's shit. Grow up.

Skootles "good" They made a demo whete you play 2 minutes You can do sonic OC this will have moew hate than 06.

claw 10 *more Look, even if some elements aren’t great it doesn’t automatically make the game bad. Please if you are so intent on hating on Forces, please explain what’s wrong with it. And please don’t say the graphics, okay? It’s a cheap and shallow argument. This game isn’t Bubsy 3D levels of unbearableness to the eyes.

Gary Tomás Constanza Martinez How people love Mania but hate Classic Sonic in Forces, which is understandable, but kinda funny

Fanny Flowercrown (pink the kitty) well, yeah

It has more to do with Sonic Mania's level design being really good while Forces' version is extremely unimpressive.

Ethan Hayes I don't understand what you mean because the game isn't that long such as xenoverse 2 the animations it self is 1-3 hours long and he game is 14.04 gb while this game which can be finished in 1-2 hours is 15.94 gb and now that is literally a fact that there is many details in the background so it is rather that the 20 years old fans just loves the small version better

Your grammar is practically nonexistent so I'm having a hard time making any sense of what you're saying, and you make very little effort to clarify which game is which when you refer to them, so I can barely tell what your argument is supposed to be. Also, judging by your username you brought Xenoverse into this for no reason other than it's one of your two favorite games, the other being Minecraft, leading me to believe you're rather young. That combined with your attitude towards Mania has me thinking that you believe games with older gameplay styles are inherently worse and and that you don't even play any, or that you care more about graphics then gameplay. But I should probably make an actual argument rather than over-analyze your faults, because that never accomplishes anything. You seem to believe that Mania has over an hour of animation, when in fact it has less than five minutes' worth, prioritizing gameplay over all else. Because you're unaware of this simple fact, I'm assuming you never actually played the game. (Which reinforces my earlier suggestion that you completely disregard games reminiscent of those before your lifetime.) You also make mention of the sizes of the two games, but I'm not sure whether you're referring to the amount of content they have or their file sizes. But with regards to their file sizes your figures are way off. For example, the Switch version of Mania is 186MB while the Switch version of Forces is 7.042GB. While the file sizes vary from system to system, in all cases Mania is much smaller than Forces. You also seem to think that Mania offers far less content than Forces, but in truth Forces doesn't take that much longer to beat than Mania. And where Forces has a longer campaign, Mania has far more replayability. There's multiple routes through every level, and it's just so fun to play that you'll want to give it another go as soon as you beat it, whereas after one playthrough of Forces, most will be done with it and not give it another thought for several years. In short, Sonic Mania prioritizes quality over quantity and doesn't worry about keeping up with the times, because good sidescrolling platformers are timeless.

Ethan Hayes if your asking me which game I am saying which has 15.94 gb I am talking about sonic forces (I know these is a random question how do you know I like minecraft?😨) and yes I am not old and the thing I said is about the details rather being very unique in sonic forces and the one of mania is the same and yet sonic forces stage 1 is hated so that's why I say "the people who say stage 1 of sonic forces is bad are 20 year old sonic fans love seeing classic sonic in 2d" well originally I say the people who say sonic forces is bad game are 20 year olds who like to see the classic sonic in 2d because usually they hate the whole game instead

one of these has good level design while the other doesn't

suprfoxfan No that wasn't the only reason. There were other reasons.

Not really.

suprfoxfan there are many reason to hate sonic forces tbh

Sp00ky g00mb4 Is that a question or statement?🤔

Sp00ky g00mb4 Yes, it is real. I have a channel, (which I would suggest that you "subscribe" to, if you wish to live,) as well as Gowasus from different universes...

Sp00ky g00mb4 Which goomba are you?🤔

Skootles I mean. Is that a bad thing? Maybe they aren't just following a bandwagon and have a favorable preference to the 2D games because they enjoy the 2D games more. Plus Sonic Forces could just not line up with a larger amount of people's tastes. It's really not that big of a deal.

Skootles hard work? In forces, they fucked up tails' character, wasted potential for infinite to be an awesome villain, reused old stages (death egg, green hill and chemical plant), and made sloppy level design. This game deserves to be mediocre.

Skootles have you even played it? It's essentially a few good ideas blended together with garbage controls and that horrendous boost formula.

wj gjgp Mario Mario.

Emanuel Martinez so true!

CaltheCat Hooray for consistency... *DAMMIT SEGA*

what I'm saying sonic forces is great I would love to own and play it but it's not the best or ''perfect''

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