*ITS TIME TO FACE YOUR FEAAAAAAAAAR*

I do wish people would stop conflating furry and zoophile

@@jmurray1110 Implying there's a distinction between being attracted to fur and tails, and being attracted to fur and tails. Yeah, not sure what you're getting onto mate, looks mostly the same to me.

@@Bruh-zx2mc the distinction is consent furries are anthropomorphic and have human like cognition animals do not Also the humanoid features can be more appealing than a straight animal

@@jmurray1110 "the distinction is consent" You're still attracted to animals.

@@Bruh-zx2mc no I take it you didn’t read the second point

He never said any of those things. You've extrapolating a bit too much from this... and the EA bit.... did you even watch the video? He hates the bastards just as any of us should!

It is literally the point of the video that "at leat Sonic is shit because it is shit" and not "because companies are trying to ass-rape it for more money." He's not extrapolating anything, but I'm glad you know a fancy word far beyond your reading (listening?) comprehension skills.

midbus does things The real question is "Did YOU watch the video?"

Honestly, I took it as Sonic Team needs to go

you forgot "always wears a mask" and "lost to shadow because he's better"

@@theirishviking9278 also forgot “edgier than a razor blade factory”

This is even worse than that one MLP Fanfic I once wrote where I didn't even bother to create a scary villain, just copy-pasted Gaunter O'Dimm exactly as he always was

Hedgehog vs. Edgehog

That sounds terrible.

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It doesn't help that those lines were just translation issues rather than actual lines. Sonic was never tortured and Tails was just missing. It felt like those lines were there to make the story seem a little darker than it actually wasn't.

Either there were different writers, or the same guy (or people) thought up SOME story ideas ("Holy shit, fans, it's a new villain!" or "Woah, Metal Sonic!" or "Oh no, Sonic could be dead!"), didn't know how to stitch the ideas together, and finally said "f*ck it" to the story portions in between. Yes, that definitely happens. See Amy Hennig's work on Uncharted 3, where she admitted that the writers thought up the game's flashy setpieces first and the rest second.

The torture was Eggman making Sonic play _Sonic '06_ while he waits, the prison didn't have any actual good games in its casual unlocked cells or gaming dens.

Do you know what episode it was in

@@zacharyjohnson7419 MailBag episode 2, around 3 minutes in.

It's funy how that's te same way way to fix KingdomHearts. Just replace "SonicTeam" with "OsakaTeam" Also, can we please have another DIMPS sonic ? SA 1-3 were awesome.

@@mrobbinsite9597 got a link?

Check it out on escapist magazine website *Plug Plug*

"Seriously, fuck EA." "Way ahead of you, Yahtz-" "Well, fuck them a notch less sensitively then!"

Yes it is, conformed by checking The Escapist website *Plug Plug*

The day after the next video: Yahtzee Croshaw, age 34, has died from his heart exploding in rage.

Not for me. I have heard so many people make jokes and chew out EA over battle front that it's gotten old, like trump jokes. Sure, a few are okay, but it's reached the point of beating a dead horse.

Sonic World R8 Sonic Mania Sonic Universe

Maybe it would be better if the fans didn't suck so much.

Why?

@@Barholtworld that's an actual line said by sonic from the opening mission

@@Barholtworld -sad dunkey

"Heh, check it out Tails! *does a backflip* Our habitat is undergoing complete ecological collapse *breakdances* and will permanently become a lifeless wasteland within the year!" - Sonic the Gheghugh

OlioH _ I imagine a white cat with a fedora. Well, he'd be a better hero than Sonic.

You misspelled "Tyrant".

OlioH _ True. Apologies.

Cats eat hedgehog.

Benjamin Yahtzee Sebastian Godzilla "the Banana" Croshaw... the Cat.

Zach Brown The same thing with mario...but does anyone complain...

Donald Trumpet Oh, don't worry. That's annoying too but I'm focusing on the subject matter in the video, dude.

Daniel Jones agreed.

Robert Hoffman Sadly the same thing happened to tails. He became a cowardly cheerleader.

Daniel Jones If they had enemies from heroes I'd definitely see how eggman could have won. All of that power and he makes the most disappointing enemies.

It didn't already have their way?!

Sad but true.

If?

Espeonage the Espeon Spy ... And STILL had to play backseat to the Blue Blur! It's like a sad compromise...!

If Deviantart really had it's way there would be an inflatable Rouge OC.

Infinite is so edgy, they should have embraced it. Gone over the top, go cheesy edgy with him. That is where the black rose smelling and Linkin Park quoting comes in. Just go over the top with it.

Dude his theme song that plays every time he shows up could've easily been on meteroa or hybrid theory

CRAWWWWWWWWWLING IN MY CRAWWL

I get what you're saying. It is a fun little rule about story-telling. If you're trying to tell a serious story, you have to make sure you get everything right. Even one tiny detail out of place can ruin everything, like having a "way past cool" protagonist that can't seem to decide if he cares or not about the world-ending plot. Then it becomes unintentionally silly. You don't want unintentionally silly. Unintentionally silly *can* be a good thing, but it is a gamble where the odds are never in your favor. If, however, you embrace the silly, you'll find a lot more leeway in your story. Small hiccups are forgiven, because they are par for the course. When a story goes out of its way to be as ridiculous as it damn well pleases, something like a super edgy villain goes from feeling forced and lame to being campy and fun. Imagine him actually bringing a radio to the boss fight and having to fiddle with it before the level so it can blast death-metal in the background. You could even have it be a part of the game mechanic where he stops and is vulnerable because the radio is malfunctioning and started playing something upbeat and happy. The whole time saying: "Ow!" "NO!" "This isn't fair!" "I need my music!" "I can't be an intimidating bad guy without really cool boss music!"

the thought of that made me throw up a little.

*And I'm Blails.*

*HOW EMBARRASSING OwO*

Just post the last line of the video why don't-cha?

I'm a Fuckels

colic the hedgehog.

PotatoHedgehog more like fandom forces

According to the rich and refined lore of the Sonic franchise, Dr. Robotnik is the actual name. Eggman is a mocking nickname Sonic and co. invented to fat-shame Robotnik. ... ... Which still doesn't make any sense, because Robotnik started naming everything he builds with the prefix "Egg" (Egg Carrier, Eggmanland, etc.) and even calling himself Eggman. Maybe he decided to "own" the nickname? Like gay people started calling themselves queer? Or maybe Sonic Team has no fucking clue what they're doing and make shit up when they write themselves into corners?

Tbh, I could have sworn they were two different characters. (Going with the Archi comics here) I remember seeing a cover way back when with the headline "Robotnik is BACK!?" while showing the face of the Eggman we know now and the older Robotnik from first season comics and SatAM. I didn't actually read it tho.

His name has always been Eggman in Japan. Robotnick is a name the western developers gave him. Just like how for years in America Bowser was called Koopa, and Peach Toadstool.

shadowspider9 that is the external explanation. But Sonic's "writers" decided to incorporate this disparity into the story in some very odd metatexutal manuever. It didn't quite land.

The thing is games (and anime) were often given minor to drastic changes when translated to the west in order to make the game more appealing to that market. Kibry, Sonic, Mario, Mega-man/Rock-man. Nearly all games in the 90's were somehow changed when translated. The advent of the internet however made it impossible to keep those chances a secrete and was something no one imagined would ever be a thing when the games were first changed. Some game series, like Mega-man, stuck with the changes. Some, like Mario, just ignored them. And some, like Sonic, tried to connect them. I actually applaud the American team for trying to come up with an in universe reason for the different names. Their hands were basically tied and they did the best they could.

Evi1M4chine what the fuck

But we need these senseless jobs to earn money. What does a profit matter if nobody can afford to buy your product or service? If we make it all automated, then few can buy the product/service and/or profit means nothing. If nothing is automated, profit is reduced. We can't win. And these higher skilled jobs aren't always available but lower skill jobs can be churned out almost at will so pretty much everyone has a chance at making a living. That's not to say spoon-feed people and not have consquences for their actions but teach the child to swim, don't just throw them in the ocean and let them figure it out.

To be fair, no one should expect you to stop a hostile army and military/industrial complex. Mind if you do people are going to think you are awesome AND that they were probably pretty bad at the whole 'hostile army and military/industrial complex' thing.

That probably one of the worst crime to do

Davuman The hell? Did this game had potential?

that wasted potential has this be somehow more disappointing than other objectively worse games. I know Sega is masters at squandering an advantage (Lost World and Boom, heck the Saturn in general wasted the potential they built coming off of Genesis), but somehow I thought they'd learn from Mania. Unfortunate.

I thought the music was pretty good and there was some neat concepts but that’s it , concepts that are either never explore or literally spent a femtosecond developing. painfully mediocre game

Honestly, I'm not sure there's much potential in the sonic franchise. I liked Sonic Mania because it had the classic gameplay but not enough to actually finish the game or play it more than once. People need to say it: Sonic is a shit character and all his little friends are even worse. They are completely obnoxious and without anything remotely compelling story-wise, any aspect of any sonic game that is not gameplay related is doomed to be terrible because the premise and characters are terrible. Sonic 2 wasn't a hit game because of art style and story, it was because it was fast paced, challenging and fun. 3D sonic games are Slow, easy, and not fun.

It's sort of meta in a way. we all want to be noticed by someone, and Yahtzee putting in that meme is his way of noticing us.

Fucking weeaboos.

Kevin Flemming oh, boo hoo.

Here’s a box of tissues

ɪᴍᴀɢɪɴᴀʀʏꜰᴀɴʙoʏ well only children like undertale

"Undertale is a good game" ~Yahtze

I'm pretty sure it's his hate-boner for the franchise talking.

Look at Friendship is Magic. That alone destroys the idea of kids and adults can't like something, no matter how childish it seems.

I thought Pacifist run in Undertale was too cringe, childish and predictable to swallow (come on, friendship and believing in yourself to beat big bad? Who didn't see that coming), while I had a blast with Genocide (probably because I'm an asshole and I like seeing a game that treats me like a proper psychopath instead of a generic hero that gets away with everything even if he fucks around with NPCs) so... meh to this comment I guess. Besides, going Pacifist makes you miss two badass boss battles (Undyne and Sans), which isn't really worthy unless you gauge your own morality by what ending a game gives you (in which case you have some serious issues).

But you can give them hats. Game of the year!

Hey I resent that! My WoW character does plenty of work! It's just that she never gets to kill any of the people that are actually master minding all the shit that forces her to work. Also when Sylvanas blows up shit she has to just sit there like "I know there's some kind of cosmic balance with nature magic cause I did the Druid part of Legion but sure let's blow up this obvious Druidic keystone rather than conquering it that's gonna make the Tauren and Troll Druids on my side happy with me. Made extra annoying when I actually play my Druid, I swear Taurens are like a second class citizen in WoW. Not that I think them gaining the writers attention would be any better I mean they remembered Night Elves and Forsaken exist and look how that turned out.

This just got even more unflattering than it already was.

Oh god he's free

Yahtzee gets some things wrong but he gets the important things right

You're not funny

The Nex Reviews At least we got one good Sonic game.

Mania was great Forces is just utterly laughable but then saddening at the same time.

The Nex Reviews Forces just exists. Not worth love or hate.

I agree I played it and while I had feeling of it......I wasn't too mad at it. Everything just happens until you reach the credits and turn the game off.

Well to be fair...

Flamingoodness Sonic Team needs a good chunk of it replaced, they have no idea what they're doing anymore.

That Pyukumuku exactly! If nothing is changed and the same people keep trying and trying, sonic will be stuck in a cycle forever

+Flamingoodness When Sonic Forces showed how rubbish it was, I instantly realized how much of a wasted opportunity it was for it to be some sort of Sonic Heroes successor. Like, the whole concept is that all of Sonic's friends formed a resistance force against Eggman and are all teamed up, right? And yet _you don't actually see them in gameplay at all._ How cool would it have been to be able to make your custom character Speed, Fly, or Power, then have him form Sonic Hero-style squads with various members of the resistance, with a free play mode that lets you form your team out of any three? Or at the very least, have stages be classified as Speed, Fly, or Power, with the story mode giving you a pre-determined character to play through with and the free play mode letting you pick one from the class. I mean, there could be so much you could do with that concept, like making gimmicky characters that act wildly different from the rest of their class and having unlockable characters. Hell, it'd even provide Sonic Team with a nice avenue for potential DLC - one likely a lower effort than creating bonus levels. And that's just one way for the premise to be spun. It also would've made a great concept for a game akin to either of the Sonic Adventures for a focus on a more concentrated cast, and there's Yahtzee's idea of focusing more on the avatar character. It really is just a huge wage of the concept.

Point: as I understand it, one of the main complaints about this game, namely the short stages with relatively boring level design, is probably due to the fact that the level design was done by new people rather than Sonic Team Veterans.

I'd actually love to see a remake of Sonic Unleashed, just with tighter controls for non-boosted Sonic, more constant camera control for WereHog Sonic (with a less jittery camera), and some control and polish tweaks to the WereHog as well (start with a bit of a higher strength stat, make the platforming a bit more precise, give his strikes a bit more volume or rumble feedback, that kind of thing). Also, either save the ritzy and otherwise great Big Band battle theme for larger enemies or add some variety to the track, like new instruments depending on the stage, or have it adapt to the action like the music in Skies of Arcadia. Either that, or just revisit the general mechanics and level design, but replace the WereHog with Ristar altogether, and the Tornado sections with NiGHTS (and NiGHTS-style gameplay). Call it "Sonic All-Star Dream Team, or something along those lines.

Well you see, the creator...

@@repeekyraidcero who I'm still not convinced didn't do that as a giant troll effort.

Yeah he fucking eviscerated this game

I thought that too for a second when I first saw it.

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.

That Dude "Gioff"

gotta get a grip

la'zergo *Skin Thiccens*

show some goddam respect or i will non leathaly take down you

smug Vagita old school fans are different and less common and Actually have good games. But a lot of the time I come across the modern apologist fans who defend every wrong thing with the whole series no matter what.

His HM2? Why?

Whenever Sonic team does... anything really, I like using this opportunity to remind people that there is a reason Nintendo won.

Honestly, Sonic lost because... well, say what you will about how Nintendo manages Mario, but Nintendo is very aware that people follow Mario because he has the best games. There's usually one or two mainline Mario games each console (New Super Mario Bros notwithstanding) and they're always polished to a mirror shine. Look at Sunshine; that's considered something of a black sheep and it's still probably one of the best platformers on the Gamecube. You simply can't imagine Nintendo pushing out a mainline Mario game as broken as Sonic '06 or Boom. Sega, on the other hand, knows that people follow Sonic because he is Sonic. He is a cultural icon who was created by a special marketing team and proved inescapable for a good period of gaming history, holding up a steady presence ever since in comics, cartoons, and spinoffs. Sonic has a fanbase that is invested in Sonic as a character and as a world, and they'll buy just about anything with him in it, even if nobody else will. And because of this, Sega feels entirely content to just release games that are unfinished, broken, or flat-out garbage, because they know it can break even and it's not like things can get any worse. It's why Sonic's trajectory of quality is so historically rocky; look at how it went on a gradual uphill climb with Unleashed>Colors>Generations, then immediately rebooted its gameplay style twice for Lost World and Boom. Yes, Colors and Generations were pretty good, but it didn't matter; the only people who bought them were the same fans as always.

When Sonic Forces still has more integrity than EA...

Eh, if you wanna be Furry Joker, you'll have to fork over some cash, but yeah, it isn't that bad...

But then it wouldn't be a SONIC game. I'm pretty sure that SEGA's main goal on creating Sonic games, to let Sonic be the hero and not anyone else.

@@CinosTheHedgehog2000 Then ditch the OC. I only got it for my main man knux

They could have Metal kill Sonic (FOR FUCKING REAL THIS TIME). Then just spend the rest of the game dealing with the fallout of that. The OC being the new hero out for vengeance, and Metal having an crisis over having fulfilled his sole reason for existing.

@@Umbra_Ursus ​Yeah... they could do that... but that means having an actual good plot line. And that would require actual thinking from the studio. This is why my love for Sonic died a decade ago. And the movie is not going to help. I just wanted to see how badly he'd rip it.

@@SaphireKnight87 The movie is going to have Jim Carry as Eggman. I'm going to see it just for that. And to be fair, the writing had it's last real go in 06; The plot, motives, and characters were just buried under shit voice acting, gameplay, and... Well, pick something. Same goes for the Adventure's; Good understory, shit game.

how do you feel

Natasha Jones proud. And Wet

Meat Box Plays is ready

I honestly want a 3rd Jet Set Radio game.😶

I'm sorry, but that gasoline can only be earned in a loot box. You also have a chance of getting Fuse 2.

ace power You managed to say what I couldn't. Completely agree with you mate, It's very sad that Sonic is such a wasted franchise...

Actually we knew this wasn't going to be good when more gameplay was showcased.

I had a feeling it was gonna suck the moment classic sonic was revealed, shows even more how desparate they are to make a hit while also having no idea what they're doing

Its funny, I've seen people say the OC can save the game, even after saying the actual game really isn't that good. But now I get to play a not-good game as a PURPLE SONIC!

It's Sega's fault for letting newbies create a game like this(anniversary /big title), and in a year no less. 3 years of concepts and 1 year of development. None of the people who worked on colors or generations worked on this

Lix BOx Lixbox ya don't say

You maybe on to something

Aye, bad games are forgettable... Yet severely disapointing games are sinful, LOOKING AT YOU COLONIAL MARINES!

Neat

x2 you fucking coward

0.5x to make him sound like a drunk

NEVER. GOTTA GO FAST. ALL DAY ER'Y DAY.

If you don't, than YOU'RE TOO SLOOOW

ccateni 28 Not only that the main villian himself is nothing but ripped from the edgy OC sonic fan fiction you find from deviant art. His back story doesn't help it either or lack there of.

Wait, you serious?

ccateni 28 Zero and Shadow are killed off in cutscenes. Its really fucking sad and worse when you realize metal sonics fight is a reskin of infinites

Isaiah Garraway The prequel comics did things better (considering it had an actual good writer.) Than the game itself. It actually showed eggman finding the ruby and meeting infinite. At this point I don't see why they don't hire Ian Flynn considering he's more than proved himself to be a great sonic writer. Instead they hire people that don't know/understand sonic or don't care at all.

PooDoo DrillDick It feels like false advertising and a huge wasted opportunity. Imagine the character interaction and insights we could have got if they were real.

Sure. Just fire all the high up folks who see their customers as nothing but sentient wallets to be pillaged and replace them with people who actually care about making quality products.

HAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Wait, you're serious aren't you?

Metah Hatem Yes. Have you ever heard of a little town called Nagasaki?

Of course, anything can be fixed. However it’d be significantly easier just get rid of them altogether.

Yes. With a lethal injection

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I want your OC to be beaten, bloody and bruised.

Joshua Hernandez I enjoyed playing it.

Joshua Hernandez Because Fursonas

I'm not sure, but I suspect those are the same people that defend Hitler.

Joshua Hernandez 'cause maybe it's not a bad game?

Joshua Hernandez I've heard some people liking it because it's so bad, it's good

Considering it's on Steam for Free, and is very clearly trying a lot harder than the folks that are charging $10 for asset flips... I'd say 'total shit' is relative.

yeah that's very unfair 'criticism'

Camkitsune so what's the point reviewing it? Play it yourself. Or do you need your opinions validated this badly?

bartekko I did; it was alright. The limitations of the engine and general 'budget' nature of the game held it back, but those problems have been rather pronounced in every one of the five or so I've tried playing, and the things it did well, it did exceptionally so. That's why I wouldn't call it 'total shit'. I just feel compelled to point these things out because solipsistic idiots keep making the mistake of conflating their hatred of something with that something being shitty.

He'd probably rip it for "fool me once shame on me etc etc" and conclude "not as spooky as it thinks it is and im still not attracted to these tits" before abruptly switching to another indie VN.