Sonic Origins Plus is still pretty weird

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dshaynie

dshaynie

8 ай бұрын

The segaman has returned to bring us more sonic origins goodness
for better or for worse lets check out whats new.
(Disclaimer: this video is extremely overdue I wanted it done a month and a half ago)
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Sonic The Hedgehog is copyright Sega
Music used:
Casino night - Sonic generations
Intro Teelopes - Sonic Mania
Metal sonic - Sonic Mania
Sonic Origins announcment trailer
Welcome to Station Square - Sonic Adventure
Sonic The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles Medley - Sonic 30th Anniversary Symphony
Palmtree Panic "P" mix - Sonic the Hedgehog CD
Sunset Park Zone (Act 3) - Sonic Triple Trouble
Green Grove Zone (Act 2) - Sonic 3D Blast (Genesis)
File Select - Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Spring Yard Zone - Sonic the Hedgehog
BlueSpheres - Sonic Mania
UFOSpecial - Sonic Mania
LavaReef (Act 2) - Sonic Mania
Super - Sonic Mania
Angel island - Sonic Mania
Chemical plant (Act 2) - Sonic Mania
Icecap zone (Act1) - Sonic 3
Stardust speedway (Act 1) - Sonic Mania

Пікірлер: 667
@urlhnd
@urlhnd 8 ай бұрын
9:22 Dang, I genuinely believed you. The Amy render was off but everything else was just about right to convince me this was true. Great work.
@Zakko64
@Zakko64 8 ай бұрын
she doesn't even have a proper classic solo render :(
@yadienbegode2778
@yadienbegode2778 8 ай бұрын
That non-JP box art Amy gave me "fake" vibes, and I was very skeptical, but at the same time, Sega would never fix major things lol
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 8 ай бұрын
@yadienbegode2778 im not good at recreating that artstyle i did my Best for whats on screen for a couple moments
@Prophet_JtheGamerYT
@Prophet_JtheGamerYT 8 ай бұрын
@@dshaynietheawesome I actually thought it was a mod lol
@bonedude1286
@bonedude1286 8 ай бұрын
I wasn't paying attention to Amy, so I didn't even notice.
@DoKDelta
@DoKDelta 8 ай бұрын
Rip to people that just want to play Tails solo 💀 Update: ggs to the people that just want to play Tails solo
@jamesthehedgehogofficial
@jamesthehedgehogofficial 8 ай бұрын
💀
@ViltrumiteIsRite99
@ViltrumiteIsRite99 8 ай бұрын
I have no context yet, but Solo-Tails is a fun time. Play StudioOpolis act 1 with him. The boss is way cooler that way.
@bonedude1286
@bonedude1286 8 ай бұрын
​@@ViltrumiteIsRite99He's talking about Tails in Sonic 1.
@ViltrumiteIsRite99
@ViltrumiteIsRite99 8 ай бұрын
@@bonedude1286 I’m dumb. Origins, not Mania. Thanks
@darkzoyt9094
@darkzoyt9094 8 ай бұрын
Officialy the 69'th comment 💀
@YeomasBros.2008
@YeomasBros.2008 8 ай бұрын
dshaynie you holding Classic Amy like she’s your child is adorable
@SPAMTON249
@SPAMTON249 8 ай бұрын
Still better then sonic 4
@kaanbolat2403
@kaanbolat2403 8 ай бұрын
Not much of an accomplishment tbh
@KatZEdition
@KatZEdition 8 ай бұрын
Because one is a collection and the other is a cheap ass mobile game passed off as the fourth mainline Sonic game
@autumnoraki
@autumnoraki 8 ай бұрын
Not a high bar
@Alaqeam
@Alaqeam 8 ай бұрын
I hope you drop your phone in toilet water
@TheNerdyKoopa
@TheNerdyKoopa 8 ай бұрын
The replies mad as hell lmao
@Alaqeam
@Alaqeam 8 ай бұрын
Eternally sad that partner select isn’t actually real 😢
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 8 ай бұрын
Kind of my one gripe with Sonic Mania forcing those bonuses to be in the "No save" run.... forcing you to play through the whole thing in one sitting. Just don't really have time for that, so we have to watch the bonus "knuckles and Knuckles" ending on youtube if we want to see it.
@fireflygaming8764
@fireflygaming8764 6 ай бұрын
​@@MarioMastar That hasn't been the case in ages. When Plus came out they allowed bonuses to be with the save files. Unless they reverted it back.
@fnsiii7975
@fnsiii7975 8 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna lie you had me at the level and character selection gag @ 9:20 😭😭😭😭.
@BomberDuck
@BomberDuck 8 ай бұрын
Technically Tails' flying animation is his running animation. They also might've built Amy off of Tails in 3&K, seeing as she has her running animation in Doomday, lower hitbox, and only getting the super message when all the super emeralds are obtained
@CesarTorres61296
@CesarTorres61296 4 ай бұрын
They 100% built Amy off of Tails. I could see Knuckles being built off of Sonic.
@HedgehogAdventurer
@HedgehogAdventurer 2 ай бұрын
One more thing, so is Super/Hyper Sonic’s floating animation
@GeneralAwesomenessPlays
@GeneralAwesomenessPlays 8 ай бұрын
Still can't believe this collection is still this lack luster even after plus. Also, thanks for showing off my super amy art! Was a very pleasant surprise
@Microsave2
@Microsave2 Ай бұрын
Why couldn't they add spinball on genesis or the master system versions of sonic 1,2 and chaos! Or even chaotix and 3D BLAST!
@GeneralAwesomenessPlays
@GeneralAwesomenessPlays Ай бұрын
@@Microsave2 Think its a combo of alot of other things. Game gear is more Marketable then the master system, Rights issues, Theyd have to make a Game gear, Master system, Genesis, AND 32x Emulator. Or they just wanted the bare minimum when it came to a DLC add on. Not defending them tho, Cause its still bull how thats still all they could do after a whole year for 40 bucks
@CasualAchiever73
@CasualAchiever73 9 күн бұрын
@@Microsave2 Did you know? You can play 3D Blast, Spinball (16-bit), and even Mean Bean Machine (16-bit) using Sega Genesis Collection! (There's also the original 16-bit Sonic 1 & 2 if you want that)
@CasualAchiever73
@CasualAchiever73 9 күн бұрын
Unfortunately it still doesn't have Chaotix :(
@tthunder878
@tthunder878 8 ай бұрын
7:11 that’s exactly what the Neogeo pocket collection did
@Super_star_remix
@Super_star_remix 8 ай бұрын
the fact that tails going under water in scrap brain act 3 crashes the game is wild how did they even mess that up?? Edit:good news: the fixed it In update ver 2.0.2 They also fixed the combined ring sprite in S3 and k
@Mahdi12
@Mahdi12 8 ай бұрын
Sega.
@Codename-Thefox
@Codename-Thefox 8 ай бұрын
Walking to a certain spot in Labrinth zone with tails crashes the game for me
@mrboost4186
@mrboost4186 8 ай бұрын
It's in Labyrinth Zone as well as Scrap Brain 3. I think it only affects console versions too.
@shadowkirby7210
@shadowkirby7210 8 ай бұрын
No way that's real
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 8 ай бұрын
Well who’s playtesting a full sonic 1 playthrough as tails for an update
@canontheory
@canontheory 8 ай бұрын
The fact we don’t have the full screen master system versions of the game gear games is a travesty
@user-vt6dd4kz5t
@user-vt6dd4kz5t Ай бұрын
Because the master system version sucks!
@canontheory
@canontheory Ай бұрын
@@user-vt6dd4kz5t I cant disagree lol but still would be nice
@Rambi_PorkChop
@Rambi_PorkChop 15 күн бұрын
@@user-vt6dd4kz5t wanna give reasons for that incorrect statement?
@Eer4000
@Eer4000 8 ай бұрын
9:17 this part actually got me. I could forgive everything about sonic origins if it just had proper save files like the mobile ports did. The fact it doesn't is honestly why I think the game fails
@mrboost4186
@mrboost4186 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely moronic decisions on Sega's part to remove these features. That company must have some right idiots in positions of authority.
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
Tbf, you can replay the levels of any of the games in my Data and Ranking
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, the whole "make people who bought the Deluxe version eat a middle finger as we had to rebuy the full package" was the real reason. I almost didn't buy Sonis Superstars entirely because I felt like they'd pull that again... Incompetence, I can handle, but straight up screwing over the customers who SPENT REAL MONEY is pretty unforgiveable...
@Caprisk_official
@Caprisk_official 6 ай бұрын
​@@gengargamer5657 ok now tell me how I keep my chaos emeralds, or even use super sonic a.k.a THE REASON WHY I WOULD WANT TO REPLAY THE LEVELS
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 6 ай бұрын
@@Caprisk_official For 1 and CD, they don't even have Super Sonic, so there's no issue w/ them, and w/ S3&K, it does have its original save select in Origins. The only one that does get screwed over is Sonic 2
@Xxandrew01
@Xxandrew01 8 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie you almost had me at 9:19. I literally thought I missed them updating and fixing that when I went to play as Amy in Sonic 1, 2 and 3&K but you got me back to reality at 9:40. Well played sir, well played indeed. Here have a sub. ;)
@raphdude0931
@raphdude0931 8 ай бұрын
wish this was a mod and not a edit
@joshyywoshy
@joshyywoshy Ай бұрын
That opening is the most accurate analogy that I've seen of Origins Plus lol
@Fnaffan777
@Fnaffan777 4 ай бұрын
Sega: Bugs their games Fans: Fixes their games
@sonicvr2364
@sonicvr2364 2 ай бұрын
True
@garfieytreal
@garfieytreal 2 ай бұрын
Christian Whitehead: Upgrading their games and putting it on phones
@qdh2788
@qdh2788 Ай бұрын
​​@@garfieytrealsega: takes games Ports and makes them 10% worse
@Microsave2
@Microsave2 Ай бұрын
Fans do what sega dont
@user-vt6dd4kz5t
@user-vt6dd4kz5t Ай бұрын
Atleast they patched the game..instead of leaving it like this be like colors ultimate atleast they took some accountability for their shit unlike companies like game freak who don't even do a jackshit
@MyNamesNotShaneKid
@MyNamesNotShaneKid 8 ай бұрын
Such an underrated channel more people should subscribe so he makes enough to make videos full time
@ToastyMann
@ToastyMann 8 ай бұрын
Sega literally had a decade to port these mobile versions to other platforms, and THIS is the state that they're in. Origins isn't horrible, I'd even go as far to say it's perfectly *fine.* But considering the AMOUNT of problems on display here, it makes you wonder how this even got released. Compare this to Bethesda's Doom 1, 2, 3, and 64 remasters on modern consoles, and the difference is night and day. For 30 bucks, Origins should be better.
@proton7631
@proton7631 8 ай бұрын
Not perfectly fine, they just broke tails lmao
@gmoneythestickman
@gmoneythestickman 8 ай бұрын
Should be 2 dollars or 5
@mredbadger
@mredbadger 2 ай бұрын
It makes sense when you realize it wasn’t made to lovingly present their history to new fans and offer the definitive experience to returning fans, this was just Sega trying to haphazardly have a new Sonic for sale to capitalize on the second movie’s buzz Same as Colours Ultimate for the first, and Shadow Generations for the third
@user-vt6dd4kz5t
@user-vt6dd4kz5t Ай бұрын
​@@proton7631 I Think they fixed that
@Fall-oo6mt
@Fall-oo6mt 4 сағат бұрын
​@@mredbadger except shadow generations finally seems like they're doing something right
@TomTheyy
@TomTheyy 8 ай бұрын
My theory about why the save files are they way they are in S1/SCD/S2 is that Sonic Team was somewhat inexperienced with the Retro Engine of another team. And since Sonic CD's save file select interestingly also doesn't have a level select and just has you play the last level over again in perpetuity, they'd have to code in a new level select for that game when, as a reminder, they couldn't even implement the Drop Dash properly in those games, instead disguising a Spin Dash as it. So they probably just went for consistency in crippling all three save file selects to work like SCD's because they couldn't be bothered to get Headcannon to make SCD's save file select function like the other games. Though that doesn't explain the one save file per character thing, so maybe that's just a weird creative choice on their part. Also small correction, the Boss Rush save file glitchery was introduced prior to that update listed on TCRF, and it seems to affect pre-existing Boss Rush save files from before that patch was downloaded. I will say I don't blame them for trying to make SCD's menus more authentic to the original, controversial as that may be.
@KperaOfficial
@KperaOfficial 8 ай бұрын
fans do what sega don't: fixing their games
@XxDramaticBatu
@XxDramaticBatu 8 ай бұрын
Fans also do something else that sega still doesn't: Acknowledge the existance of Sally Acorn Sega, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE HER EXISTANCE AT LEAST-
@AscendedEmperor
@AscendedEmperor 8 ай бұрын
​@@XxDramaticBatunever
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
Except Sega did patch this game
@KiddyDong
@KiddyDong 8 ай бұрын
​​@@XxDramaticBatu Not going to happen anytime soon, fanboy. No offense, just reaffirming facts.
@MrRuePine
@MrRuePine 8 ай бұрын
​@@gengargamer5657 Did they fix some glitches and their badly composed rendition of Prototype Carnival Night, Ice Cap, and Launch Base 2 yet?
@RyneMcKinney
@RyneMcKinney 8 ай бұрын
Casually I have no problems with this game except the MJ songs being cut
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately that was the one issue outside of SEGA's control
@Fall-oo6mt
@Fall-oo6mt 8 ай бұрын
really couldn't care less about that, love mj but he butchered some bangers (specially carnival night act 2 and launch base act 1)
@tnmgroupptyltd1509
@tnmgroupptyltd1509 8 ай бұрын
They aren’t butchered. Give them a proper listen and not play the originals, since I only really played Origins. They’ll stick with you
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
@@tnmgroupptyltd1509 exactly!
@Fall-oo6mt
@Fall-oo6mt 8 ай бұрын
@@tnmgroupptyltd1509 launch base maybe, but after hearing carnival night's original prototype version i just can't come back to mj's version
@LolManI-75
@LolManI-75 8 ай бұрын
9:23 OH COME ON That would've been so COOL though 😭😭😭 Also good job on the editing! For the whole video btw, it looks amazing! Especially this part specifically, you make it look like they actually put this in Origins Plus lol, minus Amy's render, but still. Sega makes mistakes like that. That's why I thought that was a real addition lol
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
Btw, if you go into My Data and Ranking, you can replay all the levels from each game as any character as long as you’ve beaten the level once.
@Jabodie
@Jabodie 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
@@Jabodie Welcome
@gaymerherb
@gaymerherb 8 ай бұрын
My goodness, what an exhausting level of inconsistency. Thanks for having the patience to go through all this, i think i'm still gonna stick with Sonic 1 Forever, 2 Absolute, 3 AIR and other fan projects because wowwww this is so convoluted.
@mb8w27
@mb8w27 2 ай бұрын
9:25 if they add that for the update I gonna do something to sonic and Amy, and knuckle and knuckles
@aubreyholdinggun
@aubreyholdinggun Ай бұрын
"Super Amy can't fly" * Amy depicted jumping off of the plane * Moments taken before disaster-
@YEPEER0
@YEPEER0 5 ай бұрын
7:31 best part
@erkanerkan3643
@erkanerkan3643 4 ай бұрын
sega jumpscare
@Monkeboy4679
@Monkeboy4679 2 ай бұрын
SEGAAAA
@Unexpectedstuff
@Unexpectedstuff 8 ай бұрын
The “blur filter” (in reality just a bad scaling technique) was a deal breaker for me, and almost nobody talks about it. If I didn’t just stumbled upon your video and listened at 18:25 - I wouldn’t ever buy this collection. Thanks. It’s still really weird how you can’t change it like you could in Mania.
@Ignatius-pf5wz
@Ignatius-pf5wz 27 күн бұрын
"Knuckles & Knuckles" Made me laugh 😂😂😂
@Gator159
@Gator159 8 ай бұрын
Things I'm still thinking about but no one is talking about. Thank you for making this video
@erkanerkan3643
@erkanerkan3643 5 ай бұрын
Sega jumpscare 7:31
@brittany16950
@brittany16950 8 ай бұрын
Omg your opening skit!!! 🤣 I appreciate the effort you put into that! 💟
@GabrielGBR1933
@GabrielGBR1933 3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the effort that was put in that opening skit,pretty good
@dontletmebrown
@dontletmebrown 8 ай бұрын
Bruh how does something this high effort have so little attention. I'm not even a huge sonic fan but stayed around for the production values and entertainment
@Naninanaaaaa
@Naninanaaaaa 8 ай бұрын
Love this video! Also the intro was rly what convinced me to subscribe lol. Even if i somehow ended up hating the video i would stay for the silly comedy and animations
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 8 ай бұрын
13:57 the reason for Sega Not wanting to use hyper Sonic anymore IS because hyper Sonic is Just a Bonus Feature to doing the Lock ON Magic
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
That and because of power creep
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 8 ай бұрын
@@gengargamer5657 i only heard of Power creep in Like mmos and other stuff but Not a Sonic game
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
@@e2011ugdia They’re trying to avoid the problem Dragon Ball ran into where they introduced a bunch of different powerful forms, w/ most falling to the wayside and a bunch of them overshadowing Super Saiyon
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 8 ай бұрын
@@gengargamer5657 oh okay
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
@@e2011ugdia Yeah
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 8 ай бұрын
The infinite hammer throw needs to become cannon. I prefer the Sonic X version though, where it seems to be driven by pure emotion. Then we can see Eggman really annoy Amy and belittle her, only to instantly regret it, just like Sonic X.
@MarioMastar
@MarioMastar 8 ай бұрын
When they allowed her to be, Amy was really lit of a character. I never really gave Sonic X much attention cause I hated how she was depicted in the games as seemingly only existing to annoy Sonic and slow him down, but Sonic X made her much closer to how she is in Boom where she's a genuine force to be reckoned with, giving her the Chi chi or Bulma glow up. Fortunately they fixed her character in recent games making her all the more loveable and not just a really terrible stereotype.
@brandonwilliams6119
@brandonwilliams6119 8 ай бұрын
The intro was cute with you holding Amy like a plush😍
@maximyllion
@maximyllion 2 ай бұрын
getting all the emeralds allows amy to become "mildly adequate amy"
@mredbadger
@mredbadger 2 ай бұрын
I really liked the art of Sonic and Amy holding the systems they debuted in, Tails holding the system where his solo games were, and knuckles holding the system he had his first solo game haha just kidding it’s the And Knuckles meme again and Chaotix is still unavailable anywhere except the seven seas
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 8 ай бұрын
You had me going with the save files thing, for a second I thought they actually put work in. Silly me, this is SEGA, the company that rushes stuff out the door and rarely goes back to properly polish and fix it
@internetamenhotep
@internetamenhotep 2 ай бұрын
I gotta say man, the green screen sega suit was amazing, you're a good editor and I hope you keep improving
@Autumn5layzallday
@Autumn5layzallday 8 ай бұрын
Video was worth the wait!
@MiggleTheSmeghog
@MiggleTheSmeghog Ай бұрын
9:38 You got me there for a sec :(
@DobieMeltfire
@DobieMeltfire 8 ай бұрын
7:59 Jawdrop 😲seriously I never knew about that!! 9:20 Dammit! I don't own the game, I was really hoping the partner selection was true!
@Gsho2
@Gsho2 8 ай бұрын
Finally , A legend has Returned!
@SuperEliasboi64
@SuperEliasboi64 8 ай бұрын
personally if sega came to my house and gave me an Amy clone I would be happy, she adorable and kinda like your kid you gotta raise and take care of lol
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 8 ай бұрын
yeah but they get to excited around boys specifically blue male hedgehogs
@SuperEliasboi64
@SuperEliasboi64 8 ай бұрын
@@dshaynietheawesome lol
@SuperEliasboi64
@SuperEliasboi64 8 ай бұрын
@@dshaynietheawesome they grow up so fast 🥹
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 8 ай бұрын
0:26 AWWW! Gimmie her! Gimmie! I want to hug her and give her _ALL_ my love!
@SonicStuffChannel
@SonicStuffChannel Ай бұрын
ikrrrr the squeak sound is too cute!
@nancycaho8640
@nancycaho8640 8 ай бұрын
Ask saga to geve me a pet amy
@MohammedMunshi2011
@MohammedMunshi2011 8 ай бұрын
9:30 I actually believed you
@EmeraldCoast-w7y
@EmeraldCoast-w7y 8 ай бұрын
9:22 you almost actually made me boot up sonic origins plus again because of that change
@IAmTheMelon
@IAmTheMelon Ай бұрын
You holding Classic Amy is actually adorable dshaynie.
@I_EAT_QUARTERS
@I_EAT_QUARTERS 8 ай бұрын
i just got this and am playing sonic 1 for the first time, it’s a lot of fun. i think i’m motivated because i like playing portably and pink is my favorite color so i have been playing as amy
@kohan64studios
@kohan64studios 8 ай бұрын
I love the 3D Models!
@Mahdi12
@Mahdi12 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it didn't make sense. In S&K, they named her super amy but not hyper which begs to question is what was her form in the previous games?
@FullDeMango
@FullDeMango 5 ай бұрын
Man you got me opening my Sonic Origins to check if that character selection screen was real.
@Undecidedless
@Undecidedless 8 ай бұрын
Finally you did it
@por2geejeff26
@por2geejeff26 8 ай бұрын
That opening skit is to good dude.
@rom_2763
@rom_2763 8 ай бұрын
what the..... bro i was just watching you last night and now you uploaded? this is the best day of the week
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 8 ай бұрын
Then i guess I don’t need to apologize for not having this out a month and a half ago when it was relevant
@Hackstr_
@Hackstr_ 8 ай бұрын
Cant wait to see how you disect superstars.
@KylerFlame
@KylerFlame 8 ай бұрын
I've been able to see the custom Sonic 1 title screens by loading a character and pausing, and going back to the game's title screen (Minus Amy, who's just loads the regular Sonic title screen up
@jaedent
@jaedent 8 ай бұрын
If a little more was added to origins, then I think it would be worth it, but I that getting origins on half off and then getting the dlc would be worth it as of now.
@azimuddin1890
@azimuddin1890 8 ай бұрын
To be honest, I’m not buying this game. (4:08) My biggest gripe with the original games, I’d rather have them remove. (5:24) Nice, Channel Pup cameo!
@thecoolbroscoolman4672
@thecoolbroscoolman4672 8 ай бұрын
@Friskwastakenhow
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 8 ай бұрын
@Friskwastakenbro ur gon get a virus
@TaylorMinecraftGaming
@TaylorMinecraftGaming 8 ай бұрын
​​@Friskwastaken Yeah, good luck actually running it on Chrome... Seriously. It's basically impossible to download Origins via Chrome. You can't even run it within Chrome. Also, that's literally just piracy.
@TaylorMinecraftGaming
@TaylorMinecraftGaming 8 ай бұрын
@Friskwastaken It's still piracy regardless.
@matthewisguy7336
@matthewisguy7336 8 ай бұрын
That SEGA metaphor character in the thumbnail 😂 I like the callback to the original video’s intro
@theamazingmeh1759
@theamazingmeh1759 8 ай бұрын
Oh and excellent 3d models for the beginning animation 👍
@sassyimps
@sassyimps 8 ай бұрын
14:45 Some information regarding the Super Emeralds. The initial conception of the Super Emeralds were, as Iizuka said, likely not intended to have any narrative weight. They really were just a bonus reward to players, and were likely only added in so the extra seven special stages made specifically for Sonic & Knuckles wouldn't go to waste. Super Tails was also implemented to give Tails _something_ to work with, and his age and species likely weren't considered at the time of the form's creation. However, according to a lot of up-to-date sources and lore, as well as a handful of semi-official statements, the Super Emeralds and Hyper Sonic _are_ canon, but they haven't actually happened in the canonical narrative so far. So the "best" ending of Sonic 3; the one where you get all the Super Emeralds, beat Eggman, and rescue the Master Emerald to stop Angel Island from falling. That ending is not canon. It never happened. It's essentially a "what-if power fantasy" scenario, again, as a bonus. Instead the "good" ending, where the same thing happens, just with the Chaos Emeralds instead of the Super Emeralds, is the canon one. To support this, the cracked "Super Emeralds" that appear in Heavy King's boss fight are not actually inert, they aren't even Emeralds. They're stone replicas. Some interesting things we can deduce and confirm about the Super Emeralds. The Super Emeralds appear after the Chaos Emeralds are brought to the Master Emerald's altar. It's entirely possible that the Super Emeralds are the Super transformation of the Chaos Emeralds themselves (Mecha Sonic and Imperator Ix in the games, as well as Metal Sonic in the comics have gone Super using the Master Emerald). To parrot a fanboy's ramblings (because I know there's one out there), you can kind of interpret it like Super Saiyan Blue (Or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, to each their own). It's essentially a feedback loop of power. You pull on a source of power to get stronger, but you make that power source stronger too, and pull from it once it's stronger, you're going to receive a greater boost yourself. In all likelihood, once their enhanced power isn't needed anymore, the Super Emeralds simply reverted back into the Chaos Emeralds. But this is dipping into conjecture. TL;DR Yes, the Super Emeralds and Hyper Forms were added as a bonus, it's not difficult at all to find viability to that explanation. No, the Super Emeralds in Mania are NOT the real thing, they're stone sculptures, likely added to let the fans know they haven't been forgotten by the creative team. Are the Super Emeralds and Hyper Forms canon? Maybe. Current consensus is that they _are_ canon, but the events of Sonic 3 & Knuckles where you obtain them _aren't_.
@OinglorBoinglor
@OinglorBoinglor 8 ай бұрын
IMAGINE how pretty colored Super Emerald sprites would've looked in Mania, probably would've been the best emerald sprites in the series. I'm so sad Izuka cracked down on them with an iron fist lol
@Steelwaterfall1
@Steelwaterfall1 8 ай бұрын
A buncha stuff was adjusted in the move to split the games, yup. Like the original Super fight being a dragon, evidently Izuka has been wanting Sonic to fight a dragon for years!
@retrofan4963
@retrofan4963 8 ай бұрын
Wait, so that means Sonic 3 & Knuckles is not canon, but Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles separate are canon?
@Steelwaterfall1
@Steelwaterfall1 8 ай бұрын
@retrofan4963 Not quite, it's weird. Izuka himself said some stuff like super emeralds were just game play bonuses, but during the split of S&K3 plans changed and we got Hyper Eggrobo instead of the Dragon
@retrofan4963
@retrofan4963 8 ай бұрын
@@Steelwaterfall1 It seems like he decides that because he's afraid the Hyper form will overshadow the iconic Super form if he considers the Super Emeralds and Hyper forms in 3 & K canon.
@agreedboarart3188
@agreedboarart3188 8 ай бұрын
*WHAT* The upward thing in the beginning of Palmtree Panic is supposed to be a loop?!
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 8 ай бұрын
I guess? I just never noticed the repeating background I thought i was just running up a straight line this whole time but i guess it makes sense why the characters and the plus shaped spinny thing change perspective
@fnaf2toybonnie
@fnaf2toybonnie 8 ай бұрын
9:30 i wish that was real
@jamesthehedgehogofficial
@jamesthehedgehogofficial 8 ай бұрын
0:27 cute!
@coolmordecai7866
@coolmordecai7866 8 ай бұрын
Your content is severely underrated
@user-yz4mr1wl3c
@user-yz4mr1wl3c 7 ай бұрын
12:15 i really want to see some luigi galaxy shenanigans in sonic origins now lol
@joethetomato275
@joethetomato275 8 ай бұрын
I honestly fogot about Origin's existence lol
@Stupid_side_of_YT
@Stupid_side_of_YT 8 ай бұрын
Yeah
@macylee8028
@macylee8028 Ай бұрын
Fogot😂
@enderbo
@enderbo 7 ай бұрын
4:19 we'll be right back moment
@sonic36741
@sonic36741 2 ай бұрын
7:30 an ad played at the perfect time and it was like a perfectly cut scream
@The_Kartografen
@The_Kartografen 8 ай бұрын
i own sonic origins i i luckaly didnt find any of these glitches. and i thoughlt it was good. but its cool to know your expiriance now
@masudhasan70
@masudhasan70 8 ай бұрын
I bought Origins Plus on PC 2 months ago and I've personally had quite a lot of fun playing through these remasters. Although it's the worst optimised version of the game by far, (it was absolutely awful on my laptop at first before I upgraded my RAM and switched to an SSD) it's at least easy enough to mod to fix some of the nitpicks I had with the compilation. Nothing too game changing, but whatever. Anyway I love playing as Amy; she's already my go-to character for a quick playthrough of any game :p But yeah, the lack of a proper save menu for Sonic 1, 2 and CD really sucks. Granted, it doesn't bother me too much since I tend to finish the games in one sitting, and I personally feel collecting the chaos emeralds/time stones aren't really worth the hassle in those games. Still, it's a no-brainer when the older remasters had them around. I also feel sorry for those who got the digital deluxe edition last year as they still have to pay full price for Plus which is just simply a terrible deal so I can understand the hesitancy there. As a newcomer it's a decent deal I suppose, but yeah... even with its faults, Plus is the point where I finally consider Origins to be somewhat worth it, and it's what it should've been at release. It might've been better if Origins had received a delay to 2023 for exactly this. PS: I assume Knuckles & Tails is not an allowed option in S3&K because of the fact Knuckles has to take his own paths. Having Tails around to fly him would allow Knuckles to enter Sonic's paths which I imagine would create some issues. PPS: the Tails underwater crash in Sonic 1 seems to affect only console versions. Seems that PC is unaffected. Which is even more weird...
@geckoguyDaroh
@geckoguyDaroh 8 ай бұрын
Want to know something amusing? Headcannon actually thought about that and included eggman/eggrobo sprites for each of the bosses depending on who you play as, some of which you would never know without debug mode or level select.
@masudhasan70
@masudhasan70 8 ай бұрын
@@geckoguyDaroh I think the Eggman/Eggrobo fix was actually present in the original S3&K whenever it was possible to glitch Knuckles into Sonic's paths or vice versa. Headcannon did fix up the few bosses where this didn't happen; notably the Flying Battery act 2 boss.
@geckoguyDaroh
@geckoguyDaroh 8 ай бұрын
There's also technically a new intro to sonic vs mecha sonic (s3&k), in the original eggman just straight up dies, in the remake he falls out of his eggmobile, theres little tweaks like that scattered around.
@ShadowTheHedgehog-ei8tj
@ShadowTheHedgehog-ei8tj 2 ай бұрын
Dude Animation is good as heck
@Gabe_itch301
@Gabe_itch301 Ай бұрын
I see some sort of theme with giving the games basically the same thing but more and then naming it the same thing with plus at the end
@colliongacha740
@colliongacha740 8 ай бұрын
Finally you post a video about SOP😭😭
@Spinosaurgamer
@Spinosaurgamer 6 ай бұрын
My friend, allow me to introduce you to... Sonic Origins Ultrafix!
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust 8 ай бұрын
Im glad as hell Amys back in the gang as a DC SA kid.
@anthonyyandall592
@anthonyyandall592 4 ай бұрын
I was excited that there’s challenges/missions lol
@hashimhussain8973
@hashimhussain8973 8 ай бұрын
Slim dshaynie is back (i do not regret this)
@dshaynietheawesome
@dshaynietheawesome 8 ай бұрын
Wait what
@hashimhussain8973
@hashimhussain8973 8 ай бұрын
@@dshaynietheawesome idk
@MysticNinTorres
@MysticNinTorres 8 ай бұрын
It’s an alright update to the base game, it just should’ve resolved all the issues we’ve encountered at launch
@Fox_Tails38
@Fox_Tails38 8 ай бұрын
A new video! YAY
@Amy_RoseYT5
@Amy_RoseYT5 8 ай бұрын
Yass
@eljaminlatour6633
@eljaminlatour6633 Ай бұрын
Also shows how little care Sega has with 2D games, they just pretend to care, and we just still grumble.
@Bigger-smoke45
@Bigger-smoke45 8 ай бұрын
Anybody got a sonic superstars ad while watching this
@JamesR624
@JamesR624 8 ай бұрын
7:59 WHAT???? I never did either untilt JUST NOW! I always figured the weird flipped looping background was just a limitation of level sizes and layers back in the day...
@Silskanaalsilschannel1234
@Silskanaalsilschannel1234 7 ай бұрын
9:24, how is it used, with choosing own characters on save files?
@aortaplatinum
@aortaplatinum 8 ай бұрын
It's ridiculous how lazy ALL of Origins is. These are great remakes and I've wanted a game that let you marathon all four with cutscenes since like 2015, but the presentation here, the way it's all contained with the menus and stuff, is GARBAGE. It's like there wasn't even a UI designer assigned to this project, they just slapped together a nothing series of menus. Not to mention sections of 3K are still broken due to the weird tweaked acceleration, Carnival Night 2's final running section with the crushing barrels that were perfectly synced in 1994, now kill you unless you slow down and go through each one slowly, it fucking sucks.
@charizardoreo
@charizardoreo 8 ай бұрын
Can confirm, tails is broken in sonic 1 on PS5 as well. They can fk off if they think i'm buying Plus when the game has such glaring bugs
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 8 ай бұрын
16:55 the reason hyper amy IS called super Amy IS because Amy's super Form isnt actually a super Form ITS called supercharged Form which IS simmilar to full Power movie Sonic being Just a powered Up Form and Not a super form. I call that Form supercharged because the trailer of Origins plus Put the Text supercharged before revealing super amy
@GottaBeFrank
@GottaBeFrank 8 ай бұрын
I... am in shock that there were even more problems with Sonic Origins Plus, but the part that got me is the v2.01 update introducing more bugs. I already felt ripped off with Origins and now I'm glad I chose to not upgrade to Plus. That and there's no discount for my Digital Deluxe edition.
@Mr_Gamer-Random
@Mr_Gamer-Random 8 ай бұрын
Yo it's the guy who used to be Knuckles Channel 3 and Knuckles
@Amit7.
@Amit7. 8 ай бұрын
Yes we know.
@daydreamingstratospheres
@daydreamingstratospheres 8 ай бұрын
I think X being start in the gamegear games might be based on how on the 3DS virtual console alot of the games would have X as the start button for some odd reason
@Bread_37
@Bread_37 8 ай бұрын
17:44 tails is technically also just using his running animation but he already flies (or I guess hovers) in that so its fine
@CarlosAndresProFacheritoXd
@CarlosAndresProFacheritoXd 7 ай бұрын
I swear we need a phone Sonics update where Amy, Mighty and Ray are finally playable characters
@classic_mario
@classic_mario 2 ай бұрын
The intro is amazing
@roxasthebandicoot4492
@roxasthebandicoot4492 7 ай бұрын
Excellent review
@sirletonvladiton2304
@sirletonvladiton2304 8 ай бұрын
Remember, Nintendo does what Sega don't.
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
Yet they released 3D All Stars, which was an arguably worse collection
@sirletonvladiton2304
@sirletonvladiton2304 8 ай бұрын
@@gengargamer5657 okay. I get it. But, the 3D All-Stars is not bad thing those days.
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
@@sirletonvladiton2304 I’m not saying it’s bad, but it’s definitely worse than Origins, as it lacked much more than Origins at launch and it never ended up getting any post launch support through patches or DLC
@sirletonvladiton2304
@sirletonvladiton2304 8 ай бұрын
@@gengargamer5657 LIKE COME ON! I only said that SEGA didn't followed fans, they care about MONEY! I'm sure why these days trying making games mediocre at best or worst...
@gengargamer5657
@gengargamer5657 8 ай бұрын
@@sirletonvladiton2304 Yet the Frontiers DLC, the Origins DLC and patches, and Superstars wouldn’t have turned out the way they did if they weren’t listening at all
@bigkebizino8970
@bigkebizino8970 8 ай бұрын
This is awesome!
@MrVexedviper
@MrVexedviper 7 ай бұрын
The Sonic Mania save system was actually first implemented in Sonic 3 on Genesis
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