How on earth did Rouge and Shadow not interact once in this show?

I’m not gonna lie my entire experience with this show was “i miss Shadow, when’s shadow gonna come back?” Because literally all the best moments happened when he was on screen whether it be fight scenes, the funny moments or Shadow literally helping Sonic grow as a character. He was written so well and yet the writers used him almost like a temporary reward for fans rather than a pivotal character??? They literally threw the highlight of the series in a ravine for a few episodes because why not? Insane.

I still can't believe they pulled a Dark Sonic from X and gave Sonic a new transformation in drop 2...only for it to be completely forgotten about and never used at all during the FOUR episodes of fighting throughout drop 3.

19:00 the reason everyone gets right back up loops back to rebel rouge’s plan-it’s revealed that pretending to be beaten was a step in the plan that the audience wasn’t privy to.

This show feels like should’ve been rewritten as an Animated movie the more I think about it.

Thepjshow explained perfectly well why the Chaos Council doesn't work. One of the reasons why Nine works as the final villain is because they are nothing but a joke

Quite frankly, I am SO TIRED of Western studios approach to making content with "make as many toys as we can sell first, then make an actually good story second". The writing was on the wall the minute they revealed the different versions of the main cast bc you just knew that it was going to effect how the show itself was written. I really thought Season 2 would break the mold but Season 3 just made me disappointed all over again.

It’s so weird too because Sonic was like “if nine doesn’t stop he’s ours” and then for the rest of the episodes he tries to get nine to stop like WHAT HAPPENED???

When I initially heard Wildbrain was going to be the studio behind the show, I was skeptical. They tend to "dumb down" and simplify their shows so they're easier for younger kids to understand, but with Sonic, that was *never* an issue to begin with.

Surprised you didn't mention during one of the fights in the Grim, a version of Big saved Sonic by jumping in front of him and taking a pretty big hit from a metal Sonic that was charging at him. It was a nice heroic moment for Big that I actually quite liked.

18:57 regarding the “sudden” part. It was actually planned to happen. Sonic told everyone to pretend to lose, and when he takes care of Nine, and causes him to use the prism to power himself up more, the robots will get weaker because of that, which will give the others an advantage over them. Hence why they “suddenly” woke up after being defeated

Yo, when I tell you I did NOT take that sails and mangy "sacrifice" seriously I mean I legit forgot the moment it happened and when they came back I was like, " I forgot about them. " 😂 I don't know what they thought they were doing but it failed miserably..

The fact that we wont probably get another show in a very long time its sad

Dude, you summed up my thoughts on Season 3 BRILLIANTLY. I'll be the first to admit, I enjoyed the action sequences and the interactions between the Shatterspace counterparts, but hawt mama, the padding was REAL in this season. Mind you not btw, I went in this season completely blind. When the fight started in Episode 3, I thought, "oh heck yeah, the final battle is on!". But by Episode 7, I was all like "good lord Goomboss, have they seriously been fighting for five whole episodes?!", and it doesn't help that there was this cycle of "Sonic and friends fight Nine and the Grim Robots, win, and the situation escalates so Nine uses more power to build better or bigger robots so he wins and Sonic and Rebel have to adapt and think of a new plan; rinse and repeat, almost ad nauseam". And then when Nine finally realized the weight of his actions, I couldn't help but be a little bit aggravated that they spent five episodes fighting over something that possibly could've been easily fixed if Sonic told Nine to simply look around himself

Supposedly, Shadow wasn't stuck in the crevice because he couldn't leave but because robots kept fighting him down there. The strange thing is more so why he stayed there after destroying all the robots, unless the idea is that he kept fighting even up to that moment when Sonic fell down there.

Sonic Prime was PROOF…..that Sonic can have cool action scenes in his tv shows and not just homing attack/spin dash spams (Looking at you X, SATAM, Boom, and ATOSH)….as far as the rest of the show goes, I can leave it

i still feel like shadow should have more screentime and using his chaos powers and taking off his rings to fight the robots and nine in the final battle,and not have the writers just forget about him.

Okay so. As with many other Netflix animated shows, what they did was Netflix ordered one season of Sonic Prime. Only one, but with a LOT of episodes. And as this "season" is finished up, they release some episodes in a batch that they name a season. So what right? Well I really belive that midpoint through "Season 2" the budget really started to dry up and the crunch set in, this led to them having to really reuse assets. Because of this, the third "Season" HAD to stay in that one environment, almost the entire time. Leading to... uh, that season. This also applies to the writing, in my opinion they introduced each area WAY too quickly, they couldve spaced out how fast Sonic moved about the spaces.

So Sam, when Sonic's friends were tired, *they were faking it.* So when Nine saw that and diverted the Prism's energy for other resources and the robots were powering down, Sonic's friends stopped pretending and then pushed back against the robot army.

I liked it overall shadow and nine were definitely my favorite in the show and the animation and voice acting was amazing

It honestly feels like the crew (and Netflix) didnt know how successful the show would be and tried doing too much in a short amount of time.

Your right about the Egg Council. Honestly, they should've drawn inspiration for a variation of Eggman inspired by SatAM and Eggman Nega.

Sonic telling shadow he "doesn't have any friends" was stupid cause shadow was trying his best to save HIS FRIENDS the whole time

For the chaos council, I think they should’ve also put each Eggman in a different universe. I would’ve loved to see some uniquely goofy takes on Eggman. Like a pirate Captain Yolkbeard with a robotisized sorta cyborg crew. Have a Once-ler inspired Eggman in the jungle world, who started the deforestation originally. As for New Yolk… what if Eggman just was a machine in that universe and wants to run the entire city, and later the universe as a well-oiled machine. Three Eggmen. A direct foil to Sonic in New-Yolk, a rival to Captain Knuckles in the Pirate world, and a proper foil to Thorn Rose in the Jungle. One pure evil villain, and two greedy jerks. The mechs could be cool too.

I definitely hope that in the future games and shows and movies shadow has as good writing as he did in prime.

I 100% agree with you. Sonic Prime is not canon to the games. Because Rouge is not that being close friends to sonic, and it's kinda felt weird to see she joins sonic crew, and sonic didn't realize that chaos sonic "the robot" was similar to metal sonic.

I would’ve perfered it if Season 3 had one grim fight episode, the next episode had sonic’s world returned to normal, and then the final 3 episodes could’ve been a sorta epilogue

The part that was so weird to me was during the "plan" scene, they showed a bunch of random past and future scenes cut together.

about Nine's motive, if the prism gets fixed the shatterverse disappears along with him he was afraid of that, i don't think he would've cared if he could just live in the grim

The sprite work in Sonic Prime as a whole was a crime

Pausing the video now to clarify that in Season 2, Captain Dread purposefully mislead his crew into distrusting Sonic because he was plotting to betray him and get back his beauty. It wasn’t all of the characters just being stupid, just most of them blindly following their Captain. Now, back to the video. Pausing again. In Season 2, those “Ghost Friends” briefly turned into the real versions when Nine was figuring out how to put the shards together. So they’re more real than you think. But in the season 3 opening, there’s nothing they can do for them so they have to leave. Oh yeah, episodes 4 thru 7 dragged WAY too long. The fighting started when Nine insulted chili dogs and Sonic said “Of course you realize THIS means WAR!” XD, just kidding. That “Friends down for the count but then suddenly get back up again” was a plan made by Sonic. Nine even told Sonic it was clever but that “betrayal comes natural to you”. So it was pointed out, just pointing it out, lol. But I understand you were tired at this point. Oh the canon thing was most CERTAINLY a marketing ploy.

i think netflix ordering 24 episodes kind of doomed this show from the beginning if im being honest, i personally had fun with season 3 i loved the finale personally, i thought it was cool, tense, emotional and fun but the day prime was announced and netflix was like "it's 24 episodes" i was like "alright how are you gonna take this for 24 episodes?" and honestly.....felt like they were written into a corner because of that episode order- i believe what happened is the episode order came first and the crew had to develop around that amount, and as a result, wrote themselves into a seriously tight corner because season 3 is the epitome of "okay netflix wanted 24 episodes, we gotta give them 24 episodes" but they dragged because they were trying to come up with some way to reach that count to satisfy the higher-ups if prime was a netflix movie or miniseries from the beginning, it could've been amazing and all the pacing would be negated, but unfortunately, netflix ordering 24 episodes was them shooting themselves in the foot, and it's a shame, because i did really enjoy the show all flaws aside, because i can see passion, i can see a crew who loves creative worldbuilding, but it all came crashing down again, due to the episode count

14:06 I think the reason why this happened was because something similar happened in Sonic Movie 2. In that movie; Knuckles reveals to Sonic that his dad died the same day Sonic was forced to leave his home planet and go to earth. With Sonic sympathizing, seeing how he lost Longclaw on that same day. Only for Tails to intervene, making Knuckles immediately assume that Sonic was trying to bait him into a trap.

Also, i refuse to believe that since this show comes after sonic advance 3, that this sonic is the same sonic we've seen in sa2

You are so right about the canonicity of this show being marketing ploy. This isn't a problem exclusive to Sonic, but a lot of companies have begun to advertize their shows as "canon" to drum up hype and get hardcore fans to watch. But it's all just lip service and it's damaging the overall canon and trust between fans and the company. If we keep getting told something is canon when it's clearly not, we aren't going to believe companies anymore. As a result, the term "canon" will lose all meaning and legitimacy because it was abused by companies. They are trying to pull a boy who cried wolf. And the ironic thing about canon is that if a pieces of media is really canon, they shouldn't have to tell you that it's canon outside of that media. I should not have to hear a writer say it's canon or read that info in a marketing release. If a show, game, or movie really is canon, it will be clear in that pieces of media itself because it will align with past media and not contradict it. Like there is no debate that Sonic Frontiers is canon because the game makes it obvious. By that logic, you should never have to be told something is canon. And thats worlds the other way too, if something is non-canon that media will make it obvious. But that's ok, fan won't complain if something is non-canon if it was never advertize as being canon, they only get upset after being lied to by the company. If a company is deliberately highlighting a piece of media as canon, you should be suspicious, because there is no reason for them to do that unless that media will clearly contradict the canon.

What does "Sonic Prime is Canon to the games" even mean anyway? It really means nothing to me.

18:56 “Things are looking Grim,” I see what you did there Sam 🗿

I love the way you express your opinions

I would like to see a show like Sonic X with improved animation in the future.

"don't write urself into a corner" sam: *writes himself into a corner emotionally*

I wish the ending of Sonic Prime was like Sonic being happy that his back in Green Hill and got his friends back and explaining what happened instead the ending that we got

19:00 I will defend sonic prime here. Their plan was to pretend to stay down till the robots got weaker and then fight

If the show were canon it wouldn't make sense for Sonic to ask his friends in Frontiers how "being half ghost" feels He literally became half ghost at the end of Prime istg 💀

28:57 It's not that 06 erased itself. It was cut off from the rest of the cosmology, but still exists as a splintered timeline.

Dude I slept for like 3 episodes of that Nine dimension fight, it felt like I was asleep for hours, when I opened my eyes they were still fighting. The worst thing is that I had sped up the episodes and they still dragged so long

I'm just happy Shadow is allowed to be cool again.

Ngl I didnt mind the season but I understand the hate because it had so much potential

Overall I really enjoyed prime. The character arc sonic went on was a cool change of pace, all hail Shadow he is back again. All these alternate realities of the characters is alright some are great like Nine, Rusty Rose, Dreed, rebel rouge. But I would have liked to see the normal characters. Season 3 I think the first three episodes were good when it comes to pacing but the rest of the big battle in the grim it didn’t need to drag on for 4 episodes but they all had there moments in them. I love that shadow get an interaction with rouge even if it’s not the real rouge. I think the ending is the worst part but here’s how I would do it, keep the fight the same and the last scene plays out the same except Shadow is there and instead of a big shockwave Eggman shows up in a egg mech and that’s it. If I had to choose a spot for this to take place I think after lost world is the best spot for it if it’s canon. Now what I want for the next sonic show (I know the knuckles show is coming out but I mean after that) it would be some of amalgamation of X, Boom, and Prime. Give me a sonic show that has the storytelling from X, the comedy from Boom, and the animation from prime that’s my ideal Sonic show.

The ghost amy,rouge,knuckles,tails are his real friends but when they put the paradox prism in the right place his friends will turn back to normal

i agree with Sam,Prime Shadow is the best,i can relate to him too,he is the best version of Shadow,and i like how Shadow was being overprotective of Sonic and wanting to keep Sonic safe and away from Nine,because they both survived getting their home getting destroyed,and Sonic is the last thing Shadow has from their old home left,and he doesn't want another maria situation to happen.

To be fair with Sonic trusting Nine in S3 E3, it seems like it really could've worked judging by Nine's reaction. Nine doesn't necessarily want to hurt anyone, if only because he doesn't care. He just wants to live in his world.

I found out that some of the writers also wrote for My Little Pony. Now I am not gonna say that's bad, but I think other writers who have written Sonic stories like Ian Flynn should have been brought in as the main writers.

I really like Sonic Prime. It definitely wasn't perfect but I thought it was a lot of fun.

the issue with season 3 is that it could have been just 3 episodes, there was A LOT of fluff to pan out the season, a lot of boring filler, shadow was the mvp though, best shadow in any sonic media, period, that last scene of him saving sonic's ass is something that's gonna stick with me for a long time

i think the reason why Shadow can see through what Nine is planing,is because Shadow is more observant than Sonic and Sonic is just oblivious to things.

Sum of the season FIGHT, RESPAWN, FIGHT, RESPAWN, FIGHT, RESPAWN, FIGHT, RESPAWN, FIGHT.

Shadow needs his own show tbh

I've never really liked how the way they wrote Sonic's character in this show since season 1.

This show really feels like something that got rewritten last second

Wait... I actually didn't know the ghost versions of his friends weren't really his friends. Cuz I coulda swore they escaped from that ghost form briefly in season 2 and then reverted back.

The ending was somewhat confusing. Was it trying to tell us that the other universes that were created now exist in the multiverse as if Sonic's world is a pocket universe? If so, then the canon changed the cosmology.

I can't believe Sonic in 2024 is already starting off with mid

28:14 Ian Flynn said that the Sonic Advance 3 Sprite Animation just for reference but when he said where the timeline took place in the game timeline it really ticked off the fans so he had to fix his tweet to assure that the show is still canon from the 20 years of games and not immediately after Sonic Advance 3

They did Sonic Advance 3 so dirty, man. So many people on KZfaq have done it way better in just a few days.

I 100% agree about the issues with "its different!" I'd like to add that we haven't really gotten NORMAL yet. Sonic has so much potential by itself. IDW proves that! I just wish we could get Sonic played (mostly) straight! basic premise, Sonic vs Eggman. At least for a season. Lets adapt games again, lets do SOMETHING with this original material. We have to stop shaking things up for the sake of it when this strong baseline hasn't been explored as much as it deserves.

I finished up with Season 3 yesterday. Season 1 I really enjoyed but I do agree was lassoed down by a repetitive structure. Season 2 was a lot of fun. Season 3 started out decent but then when we got to Episode 4 it just fell off. I definitely think Sonic Prime is a good show but man did the last few episodes really keep it from being great.

Rouge's plan was hillarious. "The plan failed! Oh no, the plan failed!" Lol.

no im pretty sure when sonics friends were laying down and suddenly get back up they actually made a plan that sonic attacking nine would prompt him to divert the prism power keeping the robots active and using it to fight sonic so they could destroy the robots more easily, my guess for why they felt the need to pretend to have lost is to maybe make nine feel like hes in a position where he doesnt need the robots powered still?

For me if I were to pick a team to work on the next Sonic show I would either go Marza because they've made BANGER Sonic CGI animation, or the team behind Dream Team's Intro because it is just too visually stunning to stay an intro

One neat thing I noticed is that Nine’s birds that he sends after Sonic is a reference to Hyper Tails’s Flicky Army of Death Also Sonic does the classic crouching animation at one point which is also cool

I just noticed at 20:00. If you look close enough on the Nine's robot army, one robot just straight up disappears to the backrooms.

Season 3 was indeed very exhausting.

Ian Flinn said that this show takes place some time after Sonic advance 3, and Sonic frontiers. Hence why there is an Advance 3 reference. He also said that if you dont like it, than you can just forget about it.

Y'know what? When the heroes were rescuing the pirates, it made me think of a reverse SatAM situation, where Sonic and Friends are operating FROM Eggman's lair, instead of fighting AGAINST it, and I was really hoping that the season was gonna give us a little more of that. Instead of them fighting for 5 episodes straight, it would've been nice to see them go on missions 3 episodes to gather tools, rescue folks, or scout Nine's tower, all the while having characters reflect on things, before facing off on the second-to-last episode, and then finish the series off with good closure. It's so weird to me that they had the perfect set-up RIGHT THERE, and did nothing with it.

18:56 Here what happens is that Nine's robotic army energy gets low for a moment, as Sonic is distracting Nine so he uses all the prism energy, trying to catch him, distracting him and leaving a break to the rest. You can even see the energy reduction and how they get distracted for a moment on their animations

What we had in The Frontiers divergence prequel is what we desperately need!

Well, to tell you this, Ian Flynn has made his tweets on Twitter once Sonic Prime is over, he stated that Sonic Prime takes place some time after Sonic Advance 3(Yes, I said Some time after, not directly after it), but that's not all. He follows up that this also covers Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Colors, given Orbot and Cubot's appearance. Plus, Ian Flynn also said that he's not the one to choose to make Sonic Prime canon, and he was only a Story Consultant for the show itself. Also, the man behind the show(kinda forgot his name) made a clarification about the whole missing episode 8th situation. He stated that Episode 1 in the First Season were supposedly 2 episodes put together in 1 Episode. Also, that cliffhanger ending for Season 3 is always meant Sonic is off to his next adventure.

The only AU counterparts that got any interactions of substance and character growth are the Roses.

Kudos to the play by play of the final battle. Was very entertaining and your suffering did not go to waste.

I DREAM of a Sonic 2d animated show on the same level of quality as Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, that directly adapts the IDW comics. Can you IMAGINE what the end of the metal virus saga would look like, fully animated and voiced? Or the Surge fights? Or the Metal Overlord fight? It would be PEAK

Season 2 and 3 was plagued with repetition. Thats worst than having to deal with filler episodes. Season 3 had 4 episodes back to back being the exact same. In the end i was so hoping for OG Tails to appear and go 1v1 against Nine and really get through to him..... But no. It never happens and it was such a missed opportunity.

Don't blame you because of repetitive it is and annoying. But yeah you missed a few things to give proper context. Sonic literally spends a flashback showing they had to act like they lost to get Nine to focus and power down the robots and save energy. Shadow was stuck in the crevice cuz nine kept sending robots down, but as the fighting got crazy and sonic down there, he can now just boost up with sonic. Love the Review, I disagree on a few things, but my mood is close to yours about Prime. 5/10

Man screw it. Nobody else is gonna say it so here I go. Sonic Prime should’ve never had a multiverse story line and SHOULD’VE been a Shonen Anime.

Fight 4 was a plan they made because sonic said they wanted to look like they got beat and that's why they get up like nothing in fight 5

So even though I havent seen the 3rd season yet, from clips and from what I heard I wish they keeped this season in the oven for like 6 more months because it clearly needed more time. But once I watch it ill come back to this comment lol. Keep up the amazing work and thanks for all of what you do homie! :)

yeah,i agree with Shadow too,Nine is a heartless traitor/villain he can't be reasoned with,i hate Nine i will never forgive him for betraying Sonic,trying to kill Sonic by taking his energy,and trying to destroy the universes,Nine has caused too much harm to everybody and shouldn't be forgiven,Nine should've stayed as a villian and get defeated or have Nine die.

8:30 My major counterpoint to this is that in the season 2 finale Sonic saw Amy, Tails, and his friends reappear for a second in ghost hill. So to me it makes sense that Sonic wants to save them because he just saw them reanimate not too long ago.

Sonic Prime was a way past cool Netflix series, the cast really did a great job voicing the characters and creating their own interpretations of them, the animation was solid, and you were on your toes a lot with the suspense!!!

I really hoped we saw regular tails interacting with nine, would have been interesting to see someone match nine's wit

I don't think this show was bad, I just think it really wasn't anything special at all. It's just...a show. When the credits were rolling for the finale I was basically like "so that's it then" like it really isn't anything to write home about. Honestly the ending feels like it's just setting up for more seasons with Sonic's og crew in their own universe but I guess not. That makes the finale feel even more like an abrupt end which is funny because you have the final season itself that drags on, but when you think it's setting up something in the future it just ends. I know you say Sonic isn't like dumb dumb but he seriously has moments where he is indeed dumb dumb lol. I get Sonic y'know rushing in without thinking sometimes and acting first, but making him super stupid in scenes just for the sake of an emotional moment or two is like why. Otherwise I did enjoy Sonic's characterization a lot and his voice in this, same goes for everyone else pretty much with a few exceptions. The alternate versions of his friends were totally fine, I just never thought much of them. I enjoyed the Chaos Council and their dynamics with each other a lot but I do see how like Dr. Don't's whole emo thing and Babble's baby stuff can get annoying to people. Now Nine never hit it for me, the whole making him the main villain thing just felt dumb. I know you talked about his motivation but it really doesn't make sense. He built his seven robotic tails to defend himself against bullies and nobody messed with him in New Yoke anymore. He also lived by himself, alone in his little lab area. So he wanted to be even more by himself in the Grim was essentially his motivation....okay? You're gonna destroy other worlds and break reality itself for something you already had pretty much? He just came off as an angsty teen like "leave me alone, I wanna be alone" as his motive and demeanor. To the point of annoyance, like I grew to really not like him by season 3. The whole villain thing just wasn't working and he became unlikable not in a "this guy's the villain I don't like him" kind of way, in a "this character isn't good" kind of way. And I totally predicted that Sonic would go all soft on him because "oh no he's a version of my best friend, I can't hurt my best friend!" or whatever. Thankfully he did land a few hits on Nine but that did end up being kinda true. Nine getting beat up by Sonic and punched by Renegade Knuckles was satisfying AF I'll say that. Him just screaming a bunch from the top of his evil purple crystal palace and looking all crazy it was just so forced and tryhard. Shadow was awesome, loved his dynamic with Sonic and his characterization overall. Too bad he really wasn't in Prime that much, though everyone's saying his character here is so much better than the games but it literally is his character in the games. The game's have just never really shown Shadow acting like a tough older brother to Sonic before or help him as much as Shadow did in Prime. That's all, so I have no idea why people are acting like Modern games Shadow is bad or poorly characterized when him and Prime Shadow are pretty much the same. That whole bit about the sprite animation it has to be said was an extreme overreaction. Like I get animation in general is an art form but I don't look at a painting I think isn't that great and go "I am insulted, this is a disgrace to all who paint" and act all like personally offended by it or that it tarnishes the art form it is or something. No one should. The sprite animation isn't as good as say the sprite animation in Sonic Mania ofc and I'm not saying it was amazing or even great, I'm just saying it was fine. Good even, they made it as a little preview before the episode really started. They weren't making a full on sprite animated series or game. Yeah Sonic and Tails not being in their Advance look while Eggman is is kinda off but again it's nothing horrible or insulting. It was just a nice lil sprite animation that I didn't think anything of, certainly didn't think it was some horrendous thing. And it was to show how Sonic missed those old times with Tails, taking on Eggman and having fun together as best friends. Not some "oh yeah this show is canon because of this Sonic Advance thing here," when they said this show is canon I always took that as the show is canon in the multiverse of Sonic universes out there. Not that it actually is canon to the game universe and will be referenced in a later game as if it was a thing that took place in the past. Not saying they didn't claim Prime to be canon as a marketing ploy, but I highly doubt they actually meant it was canon to the game canon itself.

The lack of stakes in the finale got to me the most. No matter how many times characters take damage they just keep going. If the characters are invincible who cares how bad they get beat up? They can't lose. The robots can just be rebuilt infinitely so who cares if you blow some up? It's an unstoppable force vs an immovable object. Nine keeps drawing more and more power from the prism and acts like it's hurting him. Holding his head like he's having a migraine, or his chest like he's having a freaking heart attack, so it implies there's a time limit on this. Either nine will run out of power or he'll just die if this goes on too long, but nope. There is no limit it just keeps going. The worlds are all deteriorating, even the one they're on, so there's that time limit again, but NOPE! It's just gonna keep eroding forever. Nine even accelerates the deterioration intentionally in a pyrrhic victory move and it doesn't matter. then eventually looks around like "what have I done?" What was the intended effect of accelerating the world's destruction if not destroying the world? Oh and the robots are implied to be a huge threat. Sonic and shadow had to fight together just to beat one and it took a while (which was a cool fight) then we get to infinity war and even non-combatants like jungle knuckles and Big can easily solo the bots. So are they strong or not? In short the characters can't die or even be beaten, the world can't end no matter how much time they waste, there's just no urgency or consequence to anything so it drags..

2:41 dude the reason they don't trust Sonic was becuase of dread's líes and they regain thier trust when dread left them for his beuity

The animation carries the show in all honestly.

Season 3 felt like the writers don’t know how to progress the plot making it feel like padding half the time especially in a middle of a few episodes

Yeah, you're right, those fights in season 3 really did drag. 1 fight, I'm like yeah sure, that's cool. 2 fights, okay, I can take it. 8 fights, omg, stop fighting already!

It sucks so bad that every time we get a Sonic show something has to go wrong. SatAM's cancellation, Underground's cancellation (again), Sonic Boom's reputation forever tarnished by a game it was never meant to be tied to. Even if Sonic X and AOSTH didn’t have particular anything crazy wrong, they still had problems. And on paper, Sonic Prime could've FINALLY been great. The animation, the cast, even the premise, but we're once more hit with lost potential in favour of bad writing and merchandise.

ill leave a comment later on my thoughts on this show, but i do love how a lot of things the show does have a justification of explanation behind it, or at least most of it, even if we dont reallize it yet.

I feel like you missed the point of everyone suddenly getting up before fight #5. The plan was that they were pretending to be beaten so Nine would divert power away from the robots. Just wanted to clear that part up.

At the end of the what i got out of this show was Nine would be a good video game villain

Is too childish that's why it doesn't have any complexity, i was waiting for something for all ages. Btw they tease us with metal sonic and gives a even dump evil Sonic instead, this was the end for me. the only thing i liked was Shadow because Sonic team doesn't know what to do with him, so it just killed my saltiness.