Sonic the Hedgehog: The Complete Timeline

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For any long running series, one of the most common topics amongst the hardcore fans would: how do all the games fit in chronological order? Some franchises make that easy, just going from the first installment to the most recent one, however others are more complicated. Sonic the Hedgehog, is one of the complicated ones. This week's video is going to be a full compilation of the Sonic Timeline series I did back at the end of 2022 with some updates to make it the definitive experience.
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Part 1 Was In Large Part Edited By: Estienne Bruwer
The Sonic Timeline Graphic Was Animated By: Pifroggi
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Chapters:
00:00 Part 1
29:26 Part 2
01:50:42 Part 3
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@JsReviews
@JsReviews Жыл бұрын
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@Reset2150676
@Reset2150676 Жыл бұрын
so true
@zev2x762
@zev2x762 Жыл бұрын
To anyone reading this, YOU ARE LOVED AND APPRECIATED!!!
@noaht2005
@noaht2005 Жыл бұрын
you're joking
@theenderkirby939
@theenderkirby939 Жыл бұрын
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@noaht2005
@noaht2005 Жыл бұрын
@@theenderkirby939 it’s been happening a lot lately. Just report the account
@DanGamingFan2846
@DanGamingFan2846 Жыл бұрын
This franchise has certainly had its ups and downs over the years. But no matter how disappointing some of these games are, Sonic the Hedgehog as a whole, will always be one of my favorite game franchises of all time. The vibrant, exciting levels, the epic stories, the soundtracks that absolutely slap, the cool 90's charm and heroic nature of Sonic himself, and of course the rush felt while rolling around at the speed of sound make this a series worth remembering and holding out hope that the next game will be better than the last.
@xgaming2427
@xgaming2427 Жыл бұрын
Well said my friend.
@marchedgie6838
@marchedgie6838 Жыл бұрын
So true.
@FanaticChain
@FanaticChain Жыл бұрын
Well said
@kyky778
@kyky778 Жыл бұрын
ok 👌
@monique6490
@monique6490 Жыл бұрын
If you mean Frontiers I have to say it was pretty great
@Raptorducki
@Raptorducki 3 ай бұрын
Sonic Adventure 2 is like the start of the New Testament
@lemonyanva1976
@lemonyanva1976 27 күн бұрын
It's funny because the OG sonic games were for the Genesis
@LiorVolf
@LiorVolf 23 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 ​@@lemonyanva1976
@mr__switch1825
@mr__switch1825 Жыл бұрын
What I think is worth mentioning is that in the japanese version of TSR, Sonic mentions to Silver in a pre-race intro, that Silver has lost his fighting spirit and how when they first met, he always said stuff like "I'll destroy you" and stuff akin to that. Silver saying he doesn't remember said things happening. This confirming that Sonic is probably the only character who remembers the events of 06. Or at least the ones he expirienced
@LucasHopkins2006
@LucasHopkins2006 Жыл бұрын
I think Izuka also said he thinks Shadow remembers those events as well which I’m on board with, I would’ve liked Silver to also be hinted at remembering it so Team Triple S all remember their game
@MegaMet98
@MegaMet98 Жыл бұрын
Knowing Sonic & (possibly) Shadow know what unfolded in 06. Silver would have a hard time remembering his story in 06 as he's now a clean slate, besides the familiar feeling he had with Blaze the Cat. I'm okay with the event of the game being exclusive to specific characters or exclusive to Sonic.
@mr__switch1825
@mr__switch1825 Жыл бұрын
@@MegaMet98 I'm pretty sure Sonic is the only one who remembers We already knew that in 06 funnily enough We haven't got confirmation for Shadow in the games And Silver just outright doesn't remember He only has a familiar feeling with Blaze
@MegaMet98
@MegaMet98 Жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 had almost nothing to do with Sonic, J said it himself that 06 was about Shadow, Silver & Princess Elise. How Sonic was still able to retain the memories of 06 after history gets reset is anything beyond me.
@mr__switch1825
@mr__switch1825 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I didn't make the story I just know it is like that He probably remembers bcs well, he is the mc after all and has plot armour and also bcs he was with Elise when she blew out the flame. Tho why he remembers and she doesn't I can't tell you
@Sir_Epik
@Sir_Epik 6 ай бұрын
boy. i thought it was just a blue hedgehog running around beating up robots, boy was i wrong
@solidskullz5736
@solidskullz5736 Жыл бұрын
I love this series, been playing it since I was a little kid. The speed, the fun characters, the colorful and interesting levels, and the story. Even with all the rough patches throughout the years I can never bring myself to separate from sonic
@codex8678
@codex8678 Жыл бұрын
soo true me to my man
@w1-em4nq
@w1-em4nq Ай бұрын
close for me, but am always hesistant aftee 06, took years to regain my trust
@SuspiciousScout
@SuspiciousScout Ай бұрын
I've loved the Sonic games for as long as I can remember, but man, when Forces came out in 2017 and it was the biggest pile of wasted potential ive ever seen... That would've been the last straw if frontiers didn't turn out as well as it did.
@WordsInProgress
@WordsInProgress Жыл бұрын
Imagine how much faith Sega could restore in their audience by doing a full reboot of the story and doing it right. Everyone wants the story starting at Sonic Adventure to be done in a way that really makes sense so if they did full remakes of those games people would obviously buy in. It's been long enough that the old audience has forgotten a lot of the game, the new audience would see it as fresh material, and most of the story for the next like 4 games needs to be revamped regardless so it seems like it could kill many birds with one stone and take Sonic back into its more serious direction which makes more logical sense than appealing mainly to children. I mean, most sonic fans are adults nowadays.
@ILikeSoda229
@ILikeSoda229 10 ай бұрын
I don’t know if that’s too much true. Younger audiences still love Sonic Games just as much, if not more than they did a decade ago
@matheusmunizduarte9456
@matheusmunizduarte9456 6 ай бұрын
Don't know if this would be a good thing for Sonic franchise. Something feels strange for me when a franchise's whole focus is remaking/rebooting old games and not creating anything new. Sonic's lore/plot really is a mess, but... well, this seems like those people who live their lifes remembering and reviving the past, unable to experience the present and venture in the future. In reality, I get this feeling with Sega's treatment to Sonic franchise too: they're giving a HUGE importance to nostalgia, and it feels strange.
@iiTsFaded_
@iiTsFaded_ Жыл бұрын
Dude, this is easily your best work. Props to you!
@CozyRomani
@CozyRomani Жыл бұрын
Literally💯 bro work ethic is diff❗️
@mr.redacted767
@mr.redacted767 Жыл бұрын
It’s literally just a compilation of prior videos lol
@ElectrikStatik900
@ElectrikStatik900 11 ай бұрын
​@@mr.redacted767 He means all of those videos 😐
@SazawaArt
@SazawaArt Жыл бұрын
I will never get over Omega’s violence towards Eggman, something about his bluntness is so funny to me. Team dark is so fun
@Kiezly
@Kiezly Жыл бұрын
i would love to see a new sonic anime similar to sonic X, that takes your complete timeline and tells the whole story of sonic thru dozens if not hundreds of episodes. with official ports/remasters of the games coming out in tandem with the episodes / seasons of said anime. so many possibilities and potential.
@thorwilhelms9635
@thorwilhelms9635 Жыл бұрын
I've literally been wanting that for the longest time!
@ddsbo
@ddsbo Жыл бұрын
that would be amazing.
@PhantomCitadel
@PhantomCitadel Жыл бұрын
@@ddsbo Amazing… but expensive and highly unlikely.
@Blanktester685
@Blanktester685 Жыл бұрын
Dozens? There are endless possibilities.
@ILikeSoda229
@ILikeSoda229 10 ай бұрын
Hey that’d be cool. The first episode would start with Classic Sonic and Sonic 1, and the the ending would probably just be a set up to another Sonic game coming out at the time.
@keratinh
@keratinh Жыл бұрын
holy shit, i wish i had this when i was first getting into the series!! this is so well explained, thanks so much for this
@asocos
@asocos Жыл бұрын
Fix your grammar
@asocos
@asocos Жыл бұрын
@@michaelg4981 I fixed it, now fix your grammar
@silveramyknux241
@silveramyknux241 Жыл бұрын
When it came to Mania and Forces, I always considered Mania to be canon to both timelines. Mania sends Modern Sonic to encore mode to explain where the Ruby at the beginning comes from. And Mania sends Classic Sonic to Forces, and then that sends him to Mania Adventures. I know Izuka said Mighty and Ray are exclusive to Classic or whatever, but we also are talking about the same series that reconnected the two timelines anyways. So who cares. Besides, Gens featured Mighty & Ray posters and I just love Mighty & Ray to much to not want them to make the jump to modern titles.
@connorbeith3232
@connorbeith3232 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've always been pissed that Izuka prevented them from actually being actually expanded upon. It'd be great to give them new designs, voice acting, fleshed out personalities (maybe Ian Flynn would take inspiration from the Archie versions if given the chance), and give us their first cannon interactions with the Chaotix. Plus it'd be great to finally reveal what the hell these two have been up to since the classic games, though since those Gens posters say they're missing, perhaps something bad happened to them.
@silveramyknux241
@silveramyknux241 Жыл бұрын
@@connorbeith3232 maybe. I remember hearing from I think the person who made it that it’s non-cannon. But it doesn’t really matter as they can be canonized.
@silveramyknux241
@silveramyknux241 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelg4981 I know, but I still feel like this was intended at the time.
@silveramyknux241
@silveramyknux241 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelg4981 Same. Mania Adventures has the better continuity with Forces anyways.
@heroessquad2019
@heroessquad2019 Жыл бұрын
According to Ian Flynn (if I remember correctly), for games that had both a console and handheld release, the console releases are considered canon. Meaning, handheld counterparts aren't canon, with the exception of Colors.
@HOWLWOLF
@HOWLWOLF Жыл бұрын
How does that even make sense if Colors DS contradicts a lot of Colors Wii
@heroessquad2019
@heroessquad2019 Жыл бұрын
@@HOWLWOLF Charmy Bee in Generations.
@patrickdixon7202
@patrickdixon7202 Жыл бұрын
Sonic Colours DS is not canon.
@BigteenGoingOff2
@BigteenGoingOff2 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickdixon7202it has hella information about the side characters. I would rather that game be canon. Plus, super sonic boss fight.
@patrickdixon7202
@patrickdixon7202 Жыл бұрын
@@BigteenGoingOff2 Still not canon.
@greenbush_
@greenbush_ Жыл бұрын
I never actually thought about sonic 06 restarting the timeline (or making an alternate one), it makes sense now why blaze returns after sacrificing herself.
@FumblesWumbles
@FumblesWumbles 7 ай бұрын
Sonic the Hedgehog was my first ever video game. I'll never forget getting Sonic 1, 2, and 3 with a Sega Genesis 3 for Christmas when I was 5. Here I am years later, and the only other franchise to hold an equal place of love, reverence, and appreciation that Sonic will always hold is LoZ. My son is 5, and the occasions he specifically asks to play any Sonic or LoZ absolutely melt me. Great video man.
@steinisteinkraut
@steinisteinkraut 5 ай бұрын
Awwwe you're passing the torch!
@yaboiguzma4494
@yaboiguzma4494 Жыл бұрын
Sonic really speedruns as Mario in 06' huh. Saving and having a princess getting captured repeatedly
@SlashCraftJack
@SlashCraftJack Жыл бұрын
Its noteworthy that Sonic X gives explanations for all the plot holes mentioned in Sonic Adventure 2. While not 100% canon, you could argue certain aspects as being retcons. For instance, A section of GUN was trying to cover up the incident regarding Project Shadow, & intentionally made Sonic the scapegoat for Shadow's crimes in order to continue the cover-up. As for Rouge & the Master Emerald, her Emerald radar found it while looking for the Chaos Emeralds.
@bellarosa_
@bellarosa_ 7 ай бұрын
There's also the fact that Sonic X was the first instance of Shadow having Inhibitor Rings, which was then used for the ending of Shadow's story in Sonic 06.
@MoCa1979Jr
@MoCa1979Jr Жыл бұрын
Robotnik also makes more sense as a name, consider the doctor's minions are called "BadNIKS".
@autobotproductions1244
@autobotproductions1244 3 ай бұрын
Technically the name Badniks was also a US invention but I prefer the name. Gives them some personality
@MoCa1979Jr
@MoCa1979Jr 3 ай бұрын
@@autobotproductions1244 Interesting; I figured as much. I just like how BadNIKS sound like they belong to RobotNIK. Kind of like how "The Koopas" sound like they belong to "King Koopa" (who unfortunately goes by "Bowser" now in the US market).
@harrytaylorjr2770
@harrytaylorjr2770 11 ай бұрын
For me Sonic the Hedgehog is one of the greatest video games ever created. I cant imagine my life now if Sonic never existed. I am a Sonic fan 4 life and that's WAY PAST COOL!!!👍👍👍
@versebuchanan512
@versebuchanan512 Жыл бұрын
Everything is canon. DeviantArt is canon.
@VampireA1056
@VampireA1056 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately
@ozby11
@ozby11 11 ай бұрын
“Psshh, nothing personel, kid”
@PikachuGamerSMT
@PikachuGamerSMT Жыл бұрын
For the "Canonicity" of Sticks in the main canon (look at Sonic Runners) all it says is "She's a friend of Amy" and that's it (and also Rio 2016)
@patrickdixon7202
@patrickdixon7202 Жыл бұрын
Sticks will never be canon.
@patrickdixon7202
@patrickdixon7202 Жыл бұрын
@@errorstudioz 🤡
@connorbeith3232
@connorbeith3232 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Runners is cannon considering it has characters that shouldn't have been able to return, and the cast not recognizing said characters. Though I wonder how long Sticks has known Amy in the main cannon, or where she was during some of it's major events. I feel like Amy would have met Sticks sometime after Forces or TSR since she's not seen or mentioned in any cannon game prior to Frontiers.
@patrickdixon7202
@patrickdixon7202 Жыл бұрын
@@connorbeith3232 Please stop trying.
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733 10 ай бұрын
​@@patrickdixon7202How about you Let People Enjoy Things
@crimsonstormsurge
@crimsonstormsurge Жыл бұрын
I never knew how much other characters used too impact the story I really want the series to do this again
@cutieincosplay
@cutieincosplay Жыл бұрын
It's always nice to relive gaming stories through these timeline videos 🐱💕
@rank0011
@rank0011 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how sonic is so established but feels like it’s never tapped into its full potential , I’ve play all of these and I still feel like I haven’t gone through a solid journey with sonic, I feel satisfied with Mario, Goku, Link, Sora , Rachet, but still not sonic and he’s the best character lol they need the edge again just done with higher quality and depth.
@FaithJman69
@FaithJman69 Жыл бұрын
The fact that this amazing video is only a month long really shows the research and dedication . You rule dude! I love this video so much.
@gaminganimators7000
@gaminganimators7000 11 ай бұрын
That month went fast, felt like 2 hours
@Boop__Doop
@Boop__Doop 4 ай бұрын
Everything means EVERYTHING Including fanart
@SethAshcraft
@SethAshcraft 3 ай бұрын
run.
@Skypatroller_BenCD
@Skypatroller_BenCD 20 күн бұрын
No it's mainly game
@demonicbunny3po
@demonicbunny3po 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I am only 8:49 into this and you are helping me. I’ve been ‘convinced’ to do some Sonic fanfic and needed a crash course in Sonic Lore. Just the detail of Eggman being a nickname adopted out of spite is huge for me. Can’t wait to watch more of this to actually get an idea of what I’m going to do for the story.
@Miju001
@Miju001 6 ай бұрын
I'm curious about any updates on this
@angeihd
@angeihd Жыл бұрын
The recasting after SABK was honestly MY most impactful moment in the timeline.
@cashordeals3672
@cashordeals3672 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else remembers in the opening of sonic unleashed when eggman is about to press the button if you look fast enough you will see a dreamcast 🤣 it's little things like that just has me like yeah sonic unleashed Is still my favorite sonic game
@Ponch126
@Ponch126 6 ай бұрын
51:26 correct me if I’m wrong, but I think one of the scenes in Frontiers actually does canonize the fan theory. Both Knuckles and Sonic state how similar the Ares Island is to Angel Island (that’s somehow besides the fact that they both share the same first letter) and that in the audio logs from Eggman, he goes over how Gerald’s past must have one point brought him to Angel Island, without the knowledge of Knuckles or any of its inhabitants. It would make sense considering the shrine at the end of SA2 is quite literally built after the shrine on Angel Island, both housing a specific purpose to hone the Master Emerald’s energy
@LucasHopkins2006
@LucasHopkins2006 Жыл бұрын
I think another thing working with the Riders games in canonicity is the fact that with Frontiers confirming Tangle and in the process the IDW comics (which take place after Forces) are canon to the main universe and in the final stretch of the Metal Virus arc in the IDW comics Amy called in the Babylon Rogues to help the heroes get the Chaos Emeralds so Sonic and Silver could go Super to cure Sonic and the world so Riders and Zero Gravity (preferably not Free Riders though cause frick that game) have to be canon and take place at least before Forces so that can happen, not like futuristic places like that aren’t weird to suddenly see after Metropolis in Forces
@PrincessLunafan21
@PrincessLunafan21 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting video, honestly I never noticed how many plot holes the series has. It was still cool to see the timeline and this explained a few things that I was confused about.
@PowerHayakawa420
@PowerHayakawa420 Жыл бұрын
Watching through this entire thing made me very emotional, thank you for taking the time out of your life to make this kind of video
@silvershock2353
@silvershock2353 Жыл бұрын
I have a question to all fans, if another time ending event like the end of 06 was to happen would Eraser Djinn be set free, after all Sonic's wish was "My third wish. Eraser Djinn! You Shall live out the rest of time, trapped in your lamp as you where in days of old", knowing how these things work in other media wishes stick close to what is said. So if a timeline shatter was to happen again then he should be free right?
@SkydreamPony
@SkydreamPony Жыл бұрын
In fairness to Sega, with regards to the Sonic 3 release before the game was "finished" (that is, with the &K part), it isn't as simple as "never mind, do the Happy Meal toys later". Deals like that always come with lengthy contracts and all sorts of terms that mean Sega's hands were tied before they realised S3&K wouldn't be done in time. It's not that their priority was "yay Happy Meal toys!". It was contractual obligation and not being sued by McDonald's for breach of contract.
@Rexy_THE_T-REX
@Rexy_THE_T-REX Жыл бұрын
My head canon is that sonic and robonik stay on south island because robotnik was wating for little planet and that when little planet left mobious so robotnik had to start from scrath and makes the mecha line of robots
@ManiaMusics2007
@ManiaMusics2007 Жыл бұрын
20:09 i always thought there were eggrobos because eggman didnt wanted to show his real identity to knuckles, wanting to destroy him anonymously
@Catgamer1YT
@Catgamer1YT 8 ай бұрын
Recently its been comfirmed in the comics written by Ian Flynn that tails sky patrol came before tails met sonic
@MultiMaya2002
@MultiMaya2002 5 ай бұрын
this video made me smile alot. Both as one of those fans who, as you mentioned, cares more about the characters and the world they live in than the gameplay itself - but also just....you know..as a fan of the series it was awesome to see such a video video decicated to sonic and the story it tells. To be honest I even took some notes and saved the final timeline image to help for my own sonic works and possibly making my own "headcannon" for the timeline of events! Sonic will always be a huge part of my life and I'm beyond happy that nowadays more people seem to be willing to show their love for sonic, unlike when I was a kid and it was just....the lame thing to be into. I love this series and this video was an awesome tribute to the entire series so far. Awesome job!
@DillerwithI
@DillerwithI Жыл бұрын
it is very good that you came back and changed things and not just slapped 3 videos on together and also made it look like 1 video and not 3 video back to back. you put a lot of effort into this keep up the hard work!
@luigimcdingle1951
@luigimcdingle1951 10 ай бұрын
as one of the world's five Cream fans, i feel so validated that you placed Sonic and Cream's campaigns as the only canon ones in Advance 2 💪
@autobotproductions1244
@autobotproductions1244 3 ай бұрын
Six. I’m a fan of Cream and Cheese too
@redpineapple1527
@redpineapple1527 3 ай бұрын
Seven. I got not hate
@silveramyknux241
@silveramyknux241 Жыл бұрын
2:13:05 I might’ve said this in the original part 3, but Bean’s description in Fighters Megamix, a Sega crossover fighting, that he’s canonically the son of Bin Dynamite from Dynamite Dux. I don’t know what we can make of that. But hey, a non Sonic game a part of the Sonic timeline does sound cool.
@Spongyboi897
@Spongyboi897 10 ай бұрын
I've always considered Ristar, Dynamite Headdy, Flicky and Bonzano Brothers to take place in the Sonic canon, I don't know why Ristar happens at the edge of the Milky Way, Flicky happens before Sonic 1 and Dynamite Headdy and the Bonzano Brothers takes place in a manufactured dome made by Dr.Robotnik, similar to The Truman Show.
@kingp260
@kingp260 9 ай бұрын
It’s worth noting that Sonic 1 is not his first meeting with Eggman. The Japanese manual states that Eggman and Sonic are arch enemies, and this is before talking about the events currently occurring in the game.
@TwiliPaladin
@TwiliPaladin 3 ай бұрын
46:01 Nah, that one's incredibly simple. G.U.N. needed to keep Shadow's existence a secret in spite of his crimes, so Sonic became a convenient scapegoat.
@KnightoftheWind7
@KnightoftheWind7 4 ай бұрын
Great video, is it just me, or is it rare to find someone speak about Sonic so passionately, especially the stories, and the head cannon, both things I love. Thank you for the video!
@hotshot2457
@hotshot2457 Ай бұрын
I absolutely love sonic and the black knight, hands down my personal favorite game out of any in the series. Even tho I've been stuck on the last king Arthur fight since 2012 😭
@theenderkirby939
@theenderkirby939 Жыл бұрын
Thanks you J really needed it for easier time to watch mutiple vids at once ^^
@McGillicuddy849
@McGillicuddy849 6 ай бұрын
even if some of the games suck, the one constant thing about the sonic franchise is that the music kicks ass
@TheMrproblem1234
@TheMrproblem1234 5 ай бұрын
We can also connect all timelines by saying that the Chaos Emeralds distort the fabric of realities , those who come into contact with them also have their realities distorted.
@czms922
@czms922 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason why silver sonic was in sonic 2 even though CD is before 2 is because silver sonic is supposed to be a prototype of mecha sonic
@completeownage379
@completeownage379 10 ай бұрын
My head canon on the silver/mecha/metal sonic conundrum is that metal sonic only appears in CD due to Eggman's time travel shenanigans. After he is destroyed in that game Eggman makes attempts at recreating this machine from the future by creating silver sonic, then mecha sonic before finally recreating the same metal sonic he saw back in CD
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 10 ай бұрын
So there are actually two Metal Sonics?
@BigBocefas
@BigBocefas Жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video! Glad you took the time
@paigemorris6078
@paigemorris6078 5 ай бұрын
This needs far more recognition!!! Thanks a bundle
@CozyRomani
@CozyRomani Жыл бұрын
Your work ethic is much appreciated 🔥💯
@experienceevents6951
@experienceevents6951 Жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful and well made video!
@user-fc5dd2qi1h
@user-fc5dd2qi1h 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for everything J you got me into this series. Sure I was a little bit of a sonic fan before you. I’ve played generations and forces and mania but I felt like it was just that thing that I would get into a little and then immediately stop like a month later and that’s what happened but when I found you a sonic generations video and your whole retrospective it made me realize just how good some parts of this series is to be honest I’m not the biggest fan of sonic adventure one, but I still love that game because of the ambition you got me into sonic and I am incredibly grateful. Thanks for everything J
@AdamSelvig
@AdamSelvig Жыл бұрын
Ironically team darks team blast leaves a continuity issue because shadow has the green emerald at the very beginning
@AsecasJavi
@AsecasJavi Жыл бұрын
Could be a replica
@AdamSelvig
@AdamSelvig Жыл бұрын
@@AsecasJavi it couldn’t be a replica fake emeralds only been utilized once in the games and SA2 did that but how would shadow be able to obtain one when he was stasis again
@AsecasJavi
@AsecasJavi Жыл бұрын
@@AdamSelvig omega has it
@AdamSelvig
@AdamSelvig Жыл бұрын
@@AsecasJavi explain how omega had it when it’s never been mentioned or shown on screen
@AsecasJavi
@AsecasJavi Жыл бұрын
@@AdamSelvig watch the robotummy and how shadow literally picks it from there in the team mlast
@jesuscamou602
@jesuscamou602 Жыл бұрын
sonic adventure games still look good to this day
@silveramyknux241
@silveramyknux241 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Japanese manual for Sonic 1 states that Sonic and Eggman had already met before the events of the game.
@Rexy_THE_T-REX
@Rexy_THE_T-REX Жыл бұрын
Probaly robotnik as ovi kintobor
@silveramyknux241
@silveramyknux241 Жыл бұрын
@@Rexy_THE_T-REX No, that all American cannon.
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733 10 ай бұрын
​@@Rexy_THE_T-REXAmerican backstory doesn't count
@IronicSonic83
@IronicSonic83 11 ай бұрын
Dude your work is amazing. I will revisit this video forever. Thank you very much
@Lando-kx6so
@Lando-kx6so Жыл бұрын
Sonic adventure 2 sold over 1 million copies on Dreamcast, I wouldn't say it sold poorly for the time period
@yumi4804
@yumi4804 Жыл бұрын
I watched this whole video and I agree with all of it! As a sonic fan I can agree that it’s all messy but I feel like it’s something less to worry about but it’s also confusing..Especially sonics age
@patrickdixon7202
@patrickdixon7202 Жыл бұрын
You agree with bad research.
@zigslotheon
@zigslotheon Ай бұрын
Admitting the existence of Shadow instead of declaring him to just be Sonic with a disguise would probably cause people to look into what happened with the Ark and bam! Suddenly the whole of Station Square wants GUN hung and quartered! Also they probably were in on the plan with Rouge but it involved having to keep up appearances by still actually trying to stop her so Eggman and Shadow didn’t get completely suspicious of her.
@animalia5554
@animalia5554 Жыл бұрын
17:53 Is it possible that Robotnik was able to use future tech to help make Metal Sonic, but without those resources his artifical Hedgehog technology would be set back?
@Lucian1012
@Lucian1012 Жыл бұрын
Idk if you already knew this, but, Vector actually calls Eggman a bastard in the japanese version of the game
@EricJosiahWorld
@EricJosiahWorld 2 ай бұрын
This is an amazing video you put together. It must have been a ton of work and research to do. I give you so much credit for putting it together the way you did, kudos. 🎉
@JARABURNS
@JARABURNS Жыл бұрын
The Breakdown you gave us of all of Sonic 06 was Perfection.
@black.sasuke.uchiha
@black.sasuke.uchiha Жыл бұрын
36:36 I already knew that “chaos” could also be pronounced as “more than one chao” but I never knew that it was an evolved form, that makes the word play even neater!
@ARCtrooper65
@ARCtrooper65 Жыл бұрын
2:10:00 My head canon says toss out the "dimension" change in Forces, it's a rearranged past, and all classic Sonic adventures after Genrations are this Classic Sonic and at 2:17:00, my theory is that the phantom ruby ends up there after mania portals it and Classic Sonic away
@Spacehero5000
@Spacehero5000 6 ай бұрын
Ummm actually SegaSonic The Hedgehog is before sonic 1. ☝️🤓. No but this video has so much research and editing put into it, great work.
@ShaneShrimp
@ShaneShrimp Жыл бұрын
1:36:26 just watched your sonic 06 video and im glad someone else appreciates this moment so much
@jamesbevan4479
@jamesbevan4479 Жыл бұрын
I'm what you call an elder Sega fan, I was a kid when the master system was new. So I've witnessed Sonic's lovely, if slightly inconsistent, game releases unfold over the decades. The fact that you J decided to tackle this bonkers timeline and actually made it make sense... I salute you 🫡
@kittykake44
@kittykake44 10 ай бұрын
I grew up on the Mario series and am only now getting into Sonic stuff so this vid is a very helpful start
@J4WSH1E
@J4WSH1E Жыл бұрын
In frontiers Sonic mentions Tangle from IDW could this mean the zombot virus is canon?
@ozby11
@ozby11 11 ай бұрын
Seems like all of idw is canon
@mee_is_sus
@mee_is_sus 3 ай бұрын
Mario lore: Bowser kidnapped the princess, I have to save her. Sonic lore:
@Kuzamer
@Kuzamer 10 ай бұрын
Shadow being confused for Sonic doesn't make sense from an audience perspective. Sonic from an in-universe perspective was seen transforming with the Chaos Emeralds in the previous game and is known to run super fast. A black hedgehog was seen stealing a Chaos Emerald, while running super fast. It only makes sense to consider Sonic a suspect since he has been seen changing his form before and fits the description. It'd be like if the police just decided not to suspect Spider-Man if Venom broke and entered somewhere to steal something. They don't know what we know. Lol.
@lesgarsgame1941
@lesgarsgame1941 9 ай бұрын
Sonic The Hedgehog: The Complete Timeline [The Classic Era] Tails Adventure *(1995)* 23:35 Sonic The Hedgehog 16-Bit Sega Genesis *(1991)* 6:34 Sonic The Hedgehog 8-Bit Sega Master System *(1991)* 8:56 Sonic CD *(1993)* 15:07 Sonic The Hedgehog 2 8-Bit Sega Master System *(1992)* 9:35 Sonic Chaos *(1993)* 11:16 "Sonic Generations Xbox 360 *(2011)* 2:07:47" Sonic The Hedgehog 2 16-Bit Sega Genesis *(1992)* 11:58 Sonic The Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles *(1994)* 17:54 Sonic Triple Trouble 16-Bit Remake *(2022)* 20:45 Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine *(1993)* "Same For Sonic Spinball Timestamp" Sonic Spinball *(1993)* 14:49 Knuckles' Chaotix *(1995)* 2:10:40 Tails’ Skypatrol *(1995)* 24:27 Sonic Labyrinth *(1995)* 24:50 SegaSonic The Hedgehog *(1993)* 2:11:42 Sonic The Fighters *(1996)* 2:12:18 Sonic 3D In 2D/ Sonic 3D Blast 16-Bit Remake *(2020)* 25:43 Sonic Blast *(1996)* 27:07 Sonic R *(1997)* 28:31 Sonic Mania *(2017)* 2:13:47 "Sonic Forces *(2017)* 2:18:01" Sonic Mania Encore Mode *(2018)* 2:19:27 Sonic Superstars *(2023)* Didn't Show It Sonic And The Fallen Star *(2022)* Didn't Show It [The Adventure Era] Sonic Pocket Adventure *(1999)* 38:46 Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 *(2010)* 1:58:26 Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode Metal *(2010)* "Same For Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 Timestamp" Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 2 *(2012)* "Same For Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 Timestamp" Sonic Advance *(2001)* 56:47 Sonic Advance 2 *(2002)* 59:23 Sonic Adventure *(1998)* 29:21 Sonic Shuffle *(2000)* 39:38 Sonic Adventure 2 *(2001)* 40:33 Sonic Heroes *(2003)* 1:01:32 Shadow The Hedgehog *(2005)* 1:10:51 Sonic Battle *(2003)* 1:18:43 Sonic Advance 3 *(2004)* 1:22:36 Sonic The Hedgehog *(2006)* 1:27:00 Sonic Rush *(2005)* 1:42:26 Sonic Riders *(2006)* 1:24:05 Sonic Rush Adventure *(2007)* 1:43:30 Sonic And The Secret Rings *(2007)* 1:44:14 Sonic Rivals *(2006)* 1:46:40 Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity *(2008)* "Same For Sonic Riders Timestamp" Sonic Rivals 2 *(2007)* 1:49:04 [The Modern Era] Sonic Unleashed Xbox 360 *(2008)* 1:50:42 Sonic And The Black Knight *(2009)* 1:56:10 Sonic Free Riders *(2010)* "Same For Sonic Riders Timestamp" Sonic Colors DS *(2010)* 2:00:47 Sonic Generations Xbox 360 *(2011)* 2:06:06 Sonic Lost World Wii U *(2013)* 2:15:13 Sonic Forces *(2017)* 2:16:45 Team Sonic Racing *(2019)* 2:20:08 Sonic Frontiers *(2022)* 2:21:00 Sonic Dream Team *(2023)* Didn't Show It
@ChrisThe1
@ChrisThe1 3 ай бұрын
If i remember correctly the gaia cycle in unleashed happens every few million years, so since the ancients are described to have arrived 10k years ago I think it‘s more likely that the emeralds were taken from „earth“ after the last gaia cycle and then somehow got to the ancients before they returned them to „earth“.
@LightspeedAdventurer
@LightspeedAdventurer 11 ай бұрын
I want to headcanon that during the Sonic 2 ending, Sonic escapes from the Death Egg in his Super form, but then loses his ring energy and falls, with Tails then saving Sonic.
@Izzy-qc7jk
@Izzy-qc7jk Жыл бұрын
thanks for making this video!
@DaL1tleGr4vy-prod
@DaL1tleGr4vy-prod Ай бұрын
I love how in advance 3 the character pairings shows them interact, eg: sonic and amy in the select screen
@AmethystRocketrunner
@AmethystRocketrunner 3 ай бұрын
This compilation is helpful because I’m essentially using this timeline but backwards as the timing framework of the game I’m trying to make. Mostly.
@Gamma_TM
@Gamma_TM 11 ай бұрын
Sonic Adventure 2 has a chaos story 😂
@spothead1936
@spothead1936 Жыл бұрын
I saw a Notification of your friend Jeb playing SSBU. 😂 😂 😂 🤣 😂 😂 😂
@gundambassexe31
@gundambassexe31 Жыл бұрын
You had me at sonic timeline
@boskotheboss
@boskotheboss Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this
@HyperManSP
@HyperManSP Жыл бұрын
I would disregard so many of the games that you included, but like you said at the beginning, it's pretty much up to the fans to make sense of the sonic timeline so the fact that you did include some games I wouldn't have is fine. A lot of things I would have just explained away as easter eggs or cameo appearances, and thus not really canon to the main lore, even though the game those appearances are in IS canon. I appreciate your dedication to trying to fit them all in though, seems like something I would do for other fandoms, but ironically not sonic's lore... I don't know why. Also, wanted to say that 06's plot is criminally underrated. Your summary of it reminded me of how good it was if you ignore the cringe romance between sonic and elise. It's a shame it was such a bad game. And the redesign for Eggman... oof... glad that didn't stick.
@-MansBestFriend
@-MansBestFriend Ай бұрын
Ty! I’m trying to get back into sonic. :)
@XxROTSA2xX
@XxROTSA2xX 5 ай бұрын
What really stands out about Sonic in comparison to other platform game franchises, or even other animated franchises is that it has its own canon. Sure, it has often been confusing and some games have strayed from the canon, but it is impressive that it has had this epic canon that has always kept progressing.
@karinaperek7993
@karinaperek7993 6 ай бұрын
great video!!
@Clone_Riggy.
@Clone_Riggy. 9 ай бұрын
Next up in the neo classic timeline sonic superstars 🎉🎉🎉
@wickle.
@wickle. Жыл бұрын
great video man!!
@gameomer1855
@gameomer1855 6 ай бұрын
Did anybody notice that he just put a FAN REMAKE in his TIMELINE of official Sonic games When he puts Sonic Triple Trouble in the timeline he replaces it with the fan remake made by Noah Copeland because in the original Knuckles is tricked by Eggman again into thinking Sonic wants the chaos emeralds for world domination but in the remake Metal Sonic (unexplainably) takes on the form of Knuckles to destroy Sonic and now Knuckles is off to stop Metal Sonic and collect the chaos emeralds (as told in the prequel fan comic despite not being able to collect them in gameplay) he scattered across south island (the game's setting) and this game retcons Knuckles' story in Sonic & Knuckles
@tr3ycr0w
@tr3ycr0w Жыл бұрын
I really thought I was the only person to have so much trouble with Big's Sonic Adventure Story... 😂
@LorenzoDoesntExist
@LorenzoDoesntExist 2 ай бұрын
I have *corrections,* but please, anyone, feel free to suggest more changes. -You did add a note that 8-bit Mecha Sonic is less advanced than Metal Sonic, so 8-bit Sonic 2 should be moved before CD. -Sonic Chaos is really unsure because the Japanese manual states that they're _returning_ to South Island. Triple Trouble also refers to Mecha Green Hill as taking place on a "southern island" (南の島). This needs more clarification. -You put SegaSonic after Knuckles' Chaotix without explanation. If it introduces Mighty before he's in Chaotix, it should be before. Ian Flynn has put it after Sonic R but given no reason to back it up either. -You can put Pocket Adventure right before Advance because it adds to the progression from Classic to Adventure Sonic. He gains green eyes and Eggman gains his modern jacket in that game. -You put Secret Rings before Rivals without explanation. Release order can be taken as chronological unless given concrete reasons why not. -I also have a comment about Tails Adventure. Ian Flynn seems to try reconciling his timeline with a lot of the US manuals, which are infamously unreliable. His intro for Sonic 2 in Origins shows Tails learning to fly from chasing Sonic, which is from the US manual of Sonic 2. It's cute, but why would someone as intelligent as Tails not know how his own body works? It also contradicts him flying in Tails Adventure, but like the US manual for that, Ian says that takes place when Sonic and Tails are vacationing separately. I think in cases like these, you're right to follow the Japanese manuals for the original intentions.
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733 10 ай бұрын
I still hold that Metal Sonic is just a roboticized Sonic from the bad future. It explains his inferiority complex and the whole "future technology" element explains why he's more advanced than the other robot Sonics.
@Ibalistic_hedge
@Ibalistic_hedge 8 ай бұрын
06s story may have been rushed, but it still managed to be good and makes sense (mostly). The only ppl who says its story doesn't make sense are the ones who didn't watch the cutscenes or listen to them.
@Kookie_13_
@Kookie_13_ Жыл бұрын
With the metal sonic problem my headcanon is that eggman had ALOT more time to make metal sonic because he made him in the past so had many many years to perfect him eggman then lost the building instructions for metal so had to rush making silver sonic and robo sonic(the one in sonic 2) while having mecha sonic being made in the background. But this time eggman decided to focus on strength. When macha sonic was defeated he ordered some eggrobos to look for metals build instructions and the started rebuilding him. That is why you can see him in final eggs hub world. As for the other sonic robot in final egg. I think that that was meant to be a combination of mecha and robo sonic but that one got destroyed somehow. Then eggman managed to finish metal for sonic heroes
@LucasHopkins2006
@LucasHopkins2006 Жыл бұрын
That feels kinda similar to how I see it, at least with Silver Sonic being rushed. I see it as after CD and Metal Sonic, Eggman tried to make another one some time before or during Sonic 2, but he wasn’t able to finish it before Sonic got to the Death Egg so had to send Silver Sonic out and either hope for the best or hope it would do enough damage to Sonic so he could finish Sonic off, and Mecha Sonic seemingly being the final version until Metal made sure he has that title in Heroes
@Cel684
@Cel684 Жыл бұрын
I dunno I think something else made SA2 explode in popularity, I think it was something about Eggman missing his wife and urinating on the moon
@autobotproductions1244
@autobotproductions1244 Жыл бұрын
No that has nothing to do with it
@Cel684
@Cel684 Жыл бұрын
@@autobotproductions1244 yeah i'm hallucinating
@cloroxbleach8808
@cloroxbleach8808 Жыл бұрын
Right?? All i recall is that Eggman had an announcement to make!
@Cel684
@Cel684 Жыл бұрын
@@cloroxbleach8808 who knows, maybe that’s why it’s remembered so well
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733
@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733 10 ай бұрын
False. Sonic Adventure 2 was an extraordinarily popular game even long before Snapcube made their mark. Do your research you Gen. Alpha scum.
@wickle.
@wickle. Жыл бұрын
Also the finalized timeline isn’t on your twitter or community tab, would really like to take a gander at it
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