Sonny Liston vs Chuck Wepner

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rsmorodinov

13 жыл бұрын

Jun. 29, 1970.

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@larrywest538 8 ай бұрын

Liston, Foreman, Tyson, Shavers, I mean these guys hit really hard…

@siainvestigationsteam2713 Жыл бұрын

This was Liston's last fight. Sonny went on to win 14 out of 15 fights after fighting Ali. He was one of the best.

@georgevincent1834 Жыл бұрын

Liston was a big slob with no heart, as proven by the first Ali fight when he quit, "claiming" a shoulder injury. What bullshit. He was getting the shit kicked out of him. THAT'S why he quit. Beating a guy like Wepner, who didn't know how to fight, proves nothing. Beating Wepner is like beating up a kid with Downs Syndrome.

@mikevaldez7684 Жыл бұрын

Yes. And the mob killed him

@djangorheinhardt Жыл бұрын

Yes Mike ,but debatable. Some writers say yes but some say no.What is suggestive is that within boxing's inner circle most of the figures within the circle keep their mouths shut !Certainly some skulduggery went on .Nick Tosche who wrote a good biography of Sonny says not but does keep one foot in the yes camp.He says it is 50/ 50 a mob hit .So.....???

@djangorheinhardt Жыл бұрын

I forgot to add that Liston had a meeting before this fight with thred well dressed " black dudes " who did ask him to drop the fight .When his trainer objected Liston replied " oh don't worry , I 'm gonna knock this guy out " Some people think that refusal to go down was partly to blame for his mysterious death .

@johnreidy2804 9 ай бұрын

@@mikevaldez7684 Oh wow how did they do that? And why?

@luispin6107 9 ай бұрын

Wepner learned to fight on the streets of Bayonne, New Jersey,[7] saying, "This was a tough town with a lot of people from the docks and the naval base and you had to fight to survive". Wepner was about a year old when he moved in with his grandmother on 28th Street near Hudson Boulevard (now Kennedy Boulevard). He was raised by his mother and grandparents, living in a room that was a converted coal shed until he was 13. He was an avid player of sports in his youth, playing basketball for the Police Athletic League. At Bayonne High School, his height helped him get a spot on the basketball team.[8] At the age of 15, Wepner decided he would join the U.S. Marines, inspired by the movie Battle Cry.[9] In the Marines, he became a member of the boxing team, developing a reputation for being able to withstand other boxers' punches, and becoming a military champion at one of the airbases. A 1975 Sports Illustrated article said that Wepner had saved the lives of three Marine pilots, pulling them from blazing airplanes.

@michaelb2388 6 ай бұрын

Nicely copied and pasted from Wikipedia

@tomace194 27 күн бұрын

@michaelb2388 so what , I enjoyed the read. Don't be a dick.

@paullav6651 6 жыл бұрын

Sonny was a 112 years old when he fought Wepner

@blunderless 4 жыл бұрын

paul lav lmfao

@dannymcdonald286 3 жыл бұрын

157 years old

@razakmanify 3 жыл бұрын

yes its true the barber's from eddie Murphy's Coming to America also told me that too

@kevinbergin2225 3 жыл бұрын

112 and a half.

@juanig4198 2 жыл бұрын

but unlike the 137 years old joe louis he won this fight

@delpage1 3 жыл бұрын

Liston put that incredibly long jab to work. At 6"1 Liston had an 84" reach... only 1 inch shorter that Tyson Fury's 85" reach. It's really incredible and a bit freakish.

@SurendranNambiath 3 жыл бұрын

Liston also had one of the biggest fists amongst heavyweights - I forgot how many inches... That's helpful when you're a puncher!!

@amosdraak3536 Жыл бұрын

Like a 14” fist.

@MeisterShowtime Жыл бұрын

@@SurendranNambiath He has the biggest hands in boxing history, with 15 inches, considering Valuew and Fury are 7 feet tall

@DW-nb2zc Жыл бұрын

@@MeisterShowtime Fury isn't 7 ft

@GuyFromTheSouth 11 ай бұрын

84 inch reach but short enough to slip under punches easily. Its hard to train for someone like liston. He also would work inside even if you held him. He was one of the best grapplers I've ever seen in boxing

@sharkey-rx3bd 7 жыл бұрын

The great thing about this era was that there were contenders fighting each other all the time. There was always an interesting fight on the schedule.

@sprsmoke Жыл бұрын

Yes, anyone in the top 10 could give the champ a rough time, in every weight class.

@louisspeciale823 Жыл бұрын

Did Wepner fight Frazier?

@GuyFromTheSouth 11 ай бұрын

Bob Arum and Al Haymon really ruined boxing.

@fawnlliebowitz1772 8 ай бұрын

And free on tv

@robertdipaola3447 8 ай бұрын

@@louisspeciale823no

@cosmixfire3176 4 жыл бұрын

According to Wepner, Elder Liston was undoubtedly the most powerful boxer he met in his career. In a recent interview, the question "(Ali) was your toughest opponent?" Wepner reiterated: "No. Sonny Liston was hitting a lot harder" (January 13, 2007)

@brendanfrost2475 3 жыл бұрын

He also stated that Liston hits harder than Foreman.

@richardmilliken8705 2 жыл бұрын

@@brendanfrost2475 Indeed! Chuckles Wepner said everytime that Sonny hit him, he broke something. Liston smashed & broke Chucks nose and fractured both cheek bones and cut Wepners face like a hot knife going through butter, it took over 100 stitches to patch Weppy up. Ali destroyed Wepner as well. He literally punished Wepner by not knocking him out but taking him the full distance at 15 rounds. I've met my fair share of boxers when i followed Marvin Hagler & Mickey Wards career and Wepner's face is one of the most scarred & beat up that i've ever seen from boxing ring damage.

@natturner806 Жыл бұрын

Wepner did a Mexican and quit. What a bum🙃

@googlemyself4091 Жыл бұрын

@@brendanfrost2475 A 3-0 Foreman stopped Wepner in 3 while Liston took much longer. Liston is dead. Most people usually show respect to dead people. Every other boxer including who fought Liston and Foreman stated Foreman punched harder.

@brendanfrost2475 Жыл бұрын

@@googlemyself4091 Which boxer by any chance said Foreman hits harder than Liston? BTW a boxer knocking out someone faster is not an indication of being a harder hitter. Better puncher yes. Ali floored Williams faster than Liston does that mean Ali hits harder than Sonny. Mike Tyson floored Stewart faster than Foreman, yet Stewart stated Foreman hits harder.

@MjahedTV 7 жыл бұрын

I was an intimidator.Until I fought Sonny Liston... -Chuck Wepner

@omalone1169 6 жыл бұрын

MjahedTV he didn't say that you clown. I should knock you out for making up rubbish like that

@CousinJesse1 6 жыл бұрын

omalone11 .. but he did say that. There's a video clip of him saying that. I just came from a video where Wepner discussed the damage Liston had done to him.

@RambleOn07 6 жыл бұрын

Jesse James link? Sounds like a good video

@hueyfreeman1983 5 жыл бұрын

omalone11 here's proof kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZZ7o7uEqdG8dX0.html

@Nachtfahrt80 5 жыл бұрын

Wepner was just a big mummy witout a punch or skills

@jonathanmillner 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone notice how a guy with 6'1" height has a 84" reach? I bet this put his opponents in a situation where they were kind of used to feeling the distance with a guy of that height, but in actuality, he has more reach than Deontay Wilder. Probably much easier to follow through with his punches on opponents. A shorter heavyweight fighter who hit incredibly hard and had a strangely long reach for his height. Mike Tyson's weakness with being so short was opponents who could put him at a distance. You could not do that with Liston. He could fight up close or at a distance and anywhere... he hit hard... He's more technical than i think people often give him credit for.

@SurendranNambiath 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Liston was not only naturally gifted with very long arms, one of the biggest fists in the history of boxing and a body of granite, he put it all to use in the ring too! If Ali had not been greater, who knows, Liston might have been Heavyweight Champ for 17 years!!

@stang02boy 2 жыл бұрын

He had one of the hardest heads ever too!

@georgelabauve3469 2 жыл бұрын

He also had the largest hands in boxing history still to this day, at 15 inches.

@richardmilliken8705 2 жыл бұрын

@@georgelabauve3469 Indeed! Only Andrea the Giant had bigger hands at 21 inches, but he weighed over 500lb at 7ft 6in and would eat over 5 pounds of filet mignon and wash it down with 72 beers, you heard right, 3 cases of beers. Andrea could crush a can of beer like potato chips.

@georgelabauve3469 2 жыл бұрын

@@richardmilliken8705 exactly! Haha I always admired Andre, what an incredible person

@sportshistorybuff319 Жыл бұрын

In a Liston biography, a Michigan State football lineman commented that he had seen plenty of athletes bigger than Liston, but none more intimidatingly massive. The difference is obvious versus Wepner, who is much larger, but Liston's body is terrifyingly compact in its musculature.

@GuyFromTheSouth 11 ай бұрын

He had a massive back and traps. Also really large arms and forearms for someone with such long arms.

@Gregster1234 9 ай бұрын

I say anyone who got into the ring with Sonny has my respect. Sonny’s hands were so big they barely fit into gloves. Sad how he ended up and no respect from the press when he became champion; quite the opposite. When he got off the plane after becoming champion no one was there to celebrate his win; that broke his heart ❤️

@user-cu1ce1qf3r 8 ай бұрын

They love Floyd than Sonny

@doanldraney9073 7 ай бұрын

That would be different in our times now,sad.

@Cefdfsacq 8 жыл бұрын

Old man Liston still with tons of game.....but chuck is a fun guy to watch...he literally knows every trick in the books plus he's huge.....I ll bet Liston was sore all over after this fight....but he was sharp enough to give us the great boxing quote...."no, the bravest is wepner's manager".....I m paraphrasing....

@SurendranNambiath 3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't it Wepner who had to have 70-odd stitches after the fight?? Sonny was killed/ dies mysteriously a few months later, but definitely not from any wounds he got throughout his boxing career!!

@jahno7154 4 жыл бұрын

This film footage looks like it's from the 1920s

@MrSupernova111 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. WTF!

@sanD-xq8nb 4 жыл бұрын

But at least we can see how the fight was and how the boxers moved and threw punches.

@jahno7154 4 жыл бұрын

@@sanD-xq8nb I was more jesting at the poor film quality for 1970.

@James-ux5ys 3 жыл бұрын

😱😳

@Chris-pd9gi 2 жыл бұрын

Yes....

@eulissbeniot9024 2 жыл бұрын

Liston is truly one of the top 4 heavyweights of all time

@lastrada52 Жыл бұрын

Except for Ali & Floyd Patterson -- I'm at a loss for any name heavyweight contenders to Liston. Chuck Wepner? Liston fought some ranked names but none with any big following, or former title holders. He fought many second-tier names & Liston was KO'd by a second-tier heavyweight Leotis Martin (3rd ranked fighter). Liston dominated & even decked Martin (who suffered a detached retina) in the 4th round. Then, in the 9th round, Liston was knocked out cold. Yeah, Liston would've faired well against a Rocky Marciano. Hall of Fame? One of the top 4 of all time? You don't watch much boxing, do you? Look up who holds the record for most wins by KOs in the heavyweight division. You'll be surprised. It isn't Sonny. Sonny deserves an honorable mention. But he isn't one of the greats of all time. Not even the Top 25. Ali said Liston hit him the hardest. Ali also said Ron Lyle hit him the hardest. I don't believe in any of this BS. I do know during the filming of the Ali-Marciano computer fight Ali had to take 2 days off from filming because he couldn't raise his arms. Reach is dangerous when a fighter is not skilled to deal with it. Reach never bothered a Rocky Marciano since he always got fearlessly in & under to deliver his crippling goods from the shoulder with his short powerful arms.

@paleo704 Жыл бұрын

@@lastrada52 just those three

@lastrada52 Жыл бұрын

@@paleo704 - Check the record for yourself -- you can read & comprehend. Except for Cleveland Williams & Zora Folley, none of the names in Sonny's early career were fighters of note. Then he met Floyd Patterson who was good but he was no Rocky Marciano. Then Sonny met a young Ali and those two fights are still debated as to their validity. Then he met Leotis Martin who KO'd him. And while Chuck Wepner was stopped on his stool, on cuts, by Liston he didn't even KO Chuck after 10 rounds. Chuck was never a top 10 heavyweight. Sonny never met people like George Chuvalo, Jerry Quarry, Oscar Bonavena, Manuel Ramos & Doug Jones -- Sonny may have stopped these fighters but these men were far tougher than who Sonny was meeting. I sometimes think Sonny was playing it safe. Some gave Joe Frazier & Ali a hard time.

@aarondigby9859 Жыл бұрын

Liston and Holmes definitely could be in the top five. Due to their body of work, length of tenure as champion, number of title defenses, Sonny was the #1 contender for six (SIX) years before he got a title shot. He was avoided like the plague. I know Rocky wasn't coming outta retirement to fight Liston, Williams or any of these lions, besides Rocky only defended his title a paltry,peezy six times and retired after only two years after aquiring the title, he'd fought all the Grand Papas and tomato cans he could find.

@aarondigby9859 Жыл бұрын

@@lastrada52 I thought Rocky would come out of retirement to fight Liston but Sonny wasn't your average grandpapa.

@johnelliott6408 2 жыл бұрын

Wepner said getting hit by Liston was the hardest hit he ever experienced

@quarantinejet2312 Жыл бұрын

"Sonny Liston makes George Foreman look like Mr Friendly" was also what he said I believe.

@michaelcorvin951 Жыл бұрын

@@quarantinejet2312 its because Sonny was more intimidating than George

@quarantinejet2312 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelcorvin951 No it's because Liston is just as strong (stronger actually) and powerful yet much more skilled and scary.

@miketyson1240 7 жыл бұрын

really wish we would have gotten to see Liston vs Frazier

@TEDDYBEAR-dc4xg 7 жыл бұрын

Even at that age Sonny would have been worst for Joe than Foreman was. Sonny was a much more accurate puncher than the sopposed secound coming of himself and, was a much better technician than the onorthodox Foreman 1. They left Sonny out of that elimination tournament when Ali was suspended. Gee, go figure. Willie Reddish who use to work Sonnys' corner for years, was working with Joe then and, I don't think it would have been smart to fight Sonny even at that older age of Sonny. The big money was in a Ali-Frazier fight, that's one of the reasons they left Sonny out of that bullcrap tournament. They included Floyd Patterson but they left Sonny out of it ah? Patterson beat Bonavena, ah? Bonavena went the distance with Joe twice and, gave went almost all the 15th round with Ali. Stinks like hell don't it, Isn't it pretty obvious? Sonny was the most complete heavyweight champion of all-times at one time. Wasted too much time in jail too. Joe Louis said Sonny was the greatest heavyweight of all-times, he would have known.

@miketyson1240 7 жыл бұрын

TEDDYBEAR good stuff

@Davidsondaini 7 жыл бұрын

But the fucking Underworld got rid of him instead !

@djangorheinhardt 7 жыл бұрын

I agree with you entirely.Sonny boy would have been champ for many years if he had got his chances when he was younger.He was awesome;a complete fighter and unbeatable for many years apart from the two rigged Ali fights.Chuck Wepner reckoned Sonny looked about 50 years old up close.That was Sonny`s last fight .His birth was a mystery and so was his death.Poor Sonny .Used and abused and possibly killed when he was no use to anybody.

@miketyson1240 7 жыл бұрын

djangorheinhardt Ali fights we're rigged? You must be a troll

@paullav6651 5 жыл бұрын

I've seen better quality Jack Johnson fights than this

@t6v5c2 5 жыл бұрын

paul lav that made me literally lol!

@SurendranNambiath 3 жыл бұрын

True!! But this was probably considered an unimportant fight back then...

@kevinbergin2225 3 жыл бұрын

I have a few of Jack's fights on tape. He was a great one though.

@richardmorris7063 Жыл бұрын

Now Jack Johnson against Sonny List on would have been interesting!

@aarondigby9859 Жыл бұрын

@@kevinbergin2225 Dude, I swear the fight with Jack Johnson was scheduled for 45 rounds. It was worse than Roman gladiators, brutal, ferocious, savage, vicious. That shysh was borderline criminal to say the least. I like to watch those old films and binge one weekend, that shysh was numbing and that's just the tip of the iceberg...SMDH...

@mattbarringer3064 9 жыл бұрын

Rumor has it Sonny was supposed to take a dive for Ash Resnick and that's why he got murdered just months after this fight and the mob made it look like a cover up.

@george8136 5 жыл бұрын

Fuck the mob

@conartist267 4 жыл бұрын

You mean the mob made it look like an OD

@5T0N3 3 жыл бұрын

But the reason it didn't happen is supposedly because sonny simply couldn't find a place to dive.

@chuckweiny3367 3 жыл бұрын

Yep. I've always believed this.

@goodvibes4459 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they had that on Unsolved Mysteries back in the 80's

@mukhtaarashraf3740 7 жыл бұрын

Liston's last match :(

@samuelrobertson1567 8 ай бұрын

Man what a gem! Thank you!!!!

@marlinstrike 8 ай бұрын

First time seeing wepner in action he actually has pretty good movement

@joep8787 8 ай бұрын

A lot of the comments here say how awesome Sonny Liston was, but the fact is, he lost badly twice against Ali.

@jeffreywiddop762 2 жыл бұрын

I thought Leotis Martin was the last fight Sonny had. Sonny got knocked out. But, Leotis Martin never fought again it was said he suffered a detached retina in that fight. Seems Chuck Wepner risked been blind also in this. They'd stop a fight well before this over that type of punishment dished out these days. Sonny's large fists on impact must have been as hard as concrete from his powerful shoulders unleashed. Awesome skilled power boxer heavyweight was Sonny Liston even into his old age. His track record proved it.

@BG-pd6os 3 жыл бұрын

I believe LISTON had the largest hands of any Heavyweight Champion, he was also on the album cover of Seargent Pepper!

@hdvictoryford5329 Жыл бұрын

Nope- that belongs to Primo Carnera. Sonny's hands were lunch boxes, PC's were like suitcases. lol

@alexwillis7093 Жыл бұрын

Another guy with huge hands was Abe Simon 6 foot 4, 260lbs of muscle

@manny4552 8 ай бұрын

He was. Indeed on the legendary sgt peppers cover

@4EyedAnimation 8 ай бұрын

He sang back-up on several Beatles' Albums, he had a lovely tenor's voice.

@BG-pd6os 8 ай бұрын

@@4EyedAnimation Youre a funny guy!

@donsaxon1948 8 ай бұрын

This looks as good as the "moon landing " in 69 that I watch on TV when I was 4 years old....now there talking about "going back" now that I'm 58..loud out laughing!

@hdvictoryford5329 Жыл бұрын

CW is one tough Dude. If he only had more skills. His heart was out of bounds, hung in there with the best even though his talent just was not there. It's no wonder Sly picked him as the basis for the Rocky movies. Yup, that was Chuck.

@JABARDELLI 8 ай бұрын

Of curiosity, the announcer keeps talking about Liston using his head on Wepner and cutting his face and even says Wepner is “complaining to the referee about it.” Frankly, I don’t see any jarring jabs, crunching right hands or devastating left hooks being landed by Liston in this fight. It could by he was finished as a fighter and the loss to Martin was not just a loss but a crushing knockout the likes of which bring about the end to a fighter’s career.

@ronaldlevao8251 7 ай бұрын

Not a clear film print, but if you watch it again, you'll see plenty of punches by Sonny, who looks like he has plenty left.

@123bigr 7 жыл бұрын

Werner was a better fighter than I thought, he took and gave some good shots

@delpage1 7 жыл бұрын

He held and hit. He was the greatest rabbit puncher I've ever seen. Not sure I ever saw him land a stunning clean blow. His blows were chopping and often while he was holding.

@marknung751 2 жыл бұрын

Aye

@aarondigby9859 Жыл бұрын

@@delpage1 Sonny annihilated the Bayonne Bleeder,the Bleeder surely bled that night. The Bayonne Bleeder talking bout don't stop the fight if I'm cut. SHYTT, if they didn't stop it, the Bleeder would've BLED to death in the ring. Hopefully he'd pass out first. Thank God...

@sprsmoke Жыл бұрын

@@delpage1 When told he stepped on Ali's foot and knocked him down Wepner answered, "I did what I had to do."

@sprsmoke Жыл бұрын

@@aarondigby9859 One lady in the front row passed out from the sight of it.

@TheSBleeder 5 жыл бұрын

Wepner would later say that Liston hit a lot harder than Foreman.

@richardmorris7063 Жыл бұрын

Most say Shavers hit harder than all of em.Ron Lyle was another one.

@robertfullerjr802 6 жыл бұрын

Much respect and props 2 both fighters both were super skilled In their own boxing technics ✊✌

@luispin6107 9 ай бұрын

Wepner's boxing career, and fight with Ali after, inspired the 1976 film Rocky,[4] and other life events were chronicled in the 2016 film, Chuck. He was also the subject of the 2019 film The Brawler.

@ronrobertson59 Жыл бұрын

I met Chuck Wepner and Ali when they were in Cleveland in 1977 forvgheir fight. I only shock hands with Wepner but we spent about a half hour with Ali who was a very nice soft spoken man in private but when the press came in he was a different guy.

@anthonydileonardo8156 Жыл бұрын

I would've loved to see Sonny Liston fight Earnie Shavers.....omg

@byronelenica8329 7 жыл бұрын

Wepner being such a tall man means he has to hit down and in doing so he loses power far better if Wepner developed a short snappy hook, as did smoking Joe. I have to agree with many comments saying what a very good boxer Liston was. Skill, timing, technique. What a shame Liston did not get the recognition he deserved.

@davidmoser3535 Жыл бұрын

BS talk to Tommy Hearns about hitting down

@byronelenica8329 Жыл бұрын

@@davidmoser3535 have you got his number Einstein?

@evilubuntu9001 10 жыл бұрын

This was Liston's last fight

@DucksDeLucks 7 жыл бұрын

I seem to recall that Liston had an 88 inch reach, pretty huge. When asked if Wepner had courage for signing to fight him Liston replied No, his manager had courage.

@supra1722 7 жыл бұрын

84 inch, still HUGE. Ali had 79 inch reach

@reinerbraun1798 3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't wilder have an 84 inch reach while being 6'6" or 6'7"

@reinerbraun1798 3 жыл бұрын

@what. nbba thanks for correcting me bro

@renzopeterson153 2 жыл бұрын

@@reinerbraun1798 82

@renzopeterson153 2 жыл бұрын

@@reinerbraun1798 Fury is about 85

@alvalankerofficial 9 жыл бұрын

I wish there was a color version of this fight.

@nocomment1469 7 жыл бұрын

the great RINGS magazine fights .... I had the TYSON and Holmes ones ... more please

@davew1421 9 жыл бұрын

What a pity that Liston is only remembered for the 2 fiascos against Ali. He was a tough, skilled fighter.

@GenosGlory 7 жыл бұрын

Thats what happens when you get involved in not fair play in matches you lose all the respect. Liston had very bad habbits and it was too much for him. Boxing in his mind wasnt about winningfor glory anymore it was for the purse and thats where things change.

@hassanislam7227 6 жыл бұрын

Hippy(Bboomer) they weren't a fix Ali beat him

@quarantinejet2312 5 жыл бұрын

@classiccarz Patterson was a cruiserweight.

@rotichawal6697 5 жыл бұрын

Patterson was a heavyweight champion

@leodavies9383 5 жыл бұрын

@Hippy(Bboomer) stop making excuses it wasnt a fix sonny woildnt want to be embarrassed

@pdm2201 Жыл бұрын

Not only is the date of Liston’s birth a mystery but the date of his death is also uncertain. His wife discovered his body at home after she had been away for several days.

@miller566 7 ай бұрын

Only information on listons birth comes from his sister, who said that he was born one year after the great war, which would be 1919 or 1920.

@stealth7516 3 жыл бұрын

He was murdered because he refused to take a dive in this fight like he did in the ALI 2 fight.

@paulgallender4431 Жыл бұрын

That is true.

@jamesanthony5681 7 ай бұрын

You don't know that.

@easygrin1127 3 жыл бұрын

Todays clowns wouldn't last 1 round vs Liston.. maybe Fury wpuld last longest but he would walk out looking ten times worse then he did against Wallin.

@omarbernal2408 4 жыл бұрын

0:19 even his age was a mystery.

@FirstLast-vl1uy 8 ай бұрын

Wepner looks to be in much better shape here than in the Ali fight

@Colt-ii4qn Жыл бұрын

Nobody had the reach on Sonny, he was what they called a small giant 6’1 with the reach of someone maybe 6’7 😳

@sirosis7858 10 ай бұрын

Sonny Liston was actually a little over 40 years old in this fight, if not older. Best estimate his birthday was early july 1930. Crazy to think what he would have done if he started earlier

@headphonejedimaster3755 5 жыл бұрын

Wepner started bleeding during the national anthem....

@Mr.56Goldtop 3 жыл бұрын

LMAO!!

@kevinbergin2225 3 жыл бұрын

Stole that from Dick Young didn't you?

@headphonejedimaster3755 3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbergin2225 Bert Randolph Sugar, Who probably got it from someone else, and who probably got it from someone else........

@scaparapadoobedoooo3170 4 жыл бұрын

This was in 1970? The video quality is similar to Willard vs Dempsey....

@pacz8114 4 жыл бұрын

(Agreed. Definitely a hand-held 16mm capture -- which by the looks of it, had been duped many times -- then someone synced-up an audio track.)

@pacobillie1 7 жыл бұрын

Wanna see the REAL Sonny? Watch the two Cleveland Williams fights.

@reinerbraun1798 3 жыл бұрын

Omg so true

@reinerbraun1798 3 жыл бұрын

@das wright i believe sonny liston of old would have killed him seeing that chuck loves to take punches

@clubberlang589 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been saying this so many time’s the real Liston is the Liston that took apart the Prime Williams twice, after getting a pounding.

@mrdfk9410 2 жыл бұрын

I was more impressed with Williams lol, he held his own

@imabeliever85 3 жыл бұрын

They say that Wepner started bleeding during the national anthem, as soon as the singer said “the perilous fight.“

@skepchica Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@user-qs9jl1bl2u 7 ай бұрын

Listons sister (after he died) told a story that he was 8-10 years older (can’t remember exactly) then they claimed. She told the story that his manager told him that if he came out as a 30+ heavyweight nobody would take him seriously so she says they lied about his age. If that’s true he was in is 50’s in this fight. It’s crazy if true

@PlanTheTrade 4 жыл бұрын

Does someone know the name of the man on the right of Sonny Liston at the end of the video (min 12.39) ?

@SurendranNambiath 3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm! Looks like a relative of Liston, doesn't he!! Only, about 3 levels smaller...

@quickjack9140 7 жыл бұрын

The audio doesnt seem to match the video. The quality of the audio is very good.

@brucelennon9224 Жыл бұрын

This is the fight that cost Liston his life ...he was told to take a dive ..he wouldn't and knew what he consequences would be

@scottthefunk 8 ай бұрын

Liston most underrated ever (and Holmes) Liston is top 10 ever imo. He just met Clay/Ali at his fastest.

@tomawhiteman6913 7 ай бұрын

If Sonny Liston was around today he would just destroy these Fighters it's like Angelo Dundee said if Sonny Liston was around today he'd have a party

@GuyFromTheSouth 11 ай бұрын

Liston always appeared to be wide open but he would slip punches with ease and you couldnt hit him even though he was right there with his hands low. If you tried to hold him it didnt matter. He was so strong and skilled at grappling he would always get a hand free and pound to the body and head with it. If you tried to run it didnt matter because his reach was so long he would hit you with his jab. If you slipped inside his jab he would frame behind your head and throw a right hand to your head and then a left hook to the body as you tried to pull out from his clinch.

@peaga6122 2 жыл бұрын

If the statement of Sonny Liston being 45 years old when he fought Ali is true, Liston would be 51 years old in this fight.

@kantovagrant3194 Жыл бұрын

The earliest he could've been born was 1922 and the latest was 1930. If he was born in 1922 that would make him 42 years old at the time of the Ali fight... Imagine 35 year old Ali vs 35 year old Liston...shit imagine if we actually saw Liston at his prime when he was in his twenties, sadly that never happened because of to many police encounters snubbing his start off in boxing.

@trumplostlol3007 2 жыл бұрын

The cut wasn't created by the head, but the left jab. There is no way that the much shorter Liston could create the cut on the RIGHT eye using his head against an Orthodox. The commentator was OBVIOUSLY biased.

@aarondigby9859 Жыл бұрын

Sonny beat this Big Bloody Bloke to a pulp. I'mma give Chuck the credit he deserves, he's one tough former Marine. The more I watch this fight, Chuck is hard as hell to take such a bloody beating. I heard 383 stitches to repair the four cuts to his eyes, a broken nose and fractured jaw or separated jaw something to that effect. I'm in awe of how Wepner took that beating, you could tell he was obviously in pain serious...SMDH pain. The Bayonne Bleeder bled that night. FR FR

@kentaappel 7 жыл бұрын

Liston bet his entire purse from this fight on Mac Foster vs Jerry Quarry and he lost it when Quarry knocked Foster out.

@t6v5c2 5 жыл бұрын

Wepner may have had a height advantage over Liston, but I seriously doubt he had a reach advantage as claimed by the announcer. Liston had freakishly long arms.

@davidmoser3535 Жыл бұрын

this is fighting, not basketball height is good, if your playing basketball

@aarondigby9859 Жыл бұрын

You'd have long arms, too if you started working in the cotton fields at three maybe four years old, minimally at best carrying water to the field hands, y'all Gen xers, Y, Z, YY, ZZ and Millennials where have y'all been. That poor boy was worked like a man at six, seven, eight yrs old. WAKE UP Since y'all sooo WOKE.

@chaddawson7652 7 ай бұрын

Sonny Liston did NOT HAVE AN 84 inch reach! He official reach was measured in 1969 by Nevada state athletic commission at 80 1/2 inch for the Leotis Martin fight for 12/6/1969… Liston was a major hype job! He was def decent but his rep was made entirely off 3 fights! Wesphal and 2 Patterson demolition jobs

@docverit2668 7 ай бұрын

Many people also opine that Ernie Shavers had the hardest punch ever.

@KinyanjuiKamaukkjay 2 жыл бұрын

Was this fought in 1970 or 1870? The video quality is horrible.

@MrDukeus 7 жыл бұрын

Wepner was the real Rocky

@rockfresh5359 4 жыл бұрын

Never won a belt so how was he

@jackcuneo6098 4 жыл бұрын

Frazier was the real rocky

@loyaldude10 4 жыл бұрын

Frazier won an Olympic gold medal so he was hardly a Rocky

@zendayasbuu3511 4 жыл бұрын

@@loyaldude10 I consider him the real life rocky.

@mightymomerica7544 4 жыл бұрын

@@rockfresh5359 the first rocky film was based of chuck Wepners fight with ali

@ronaldpalmore570 Жыл бұрын

Sonny was a beast !!!

@georgegreig8054 7 жыл бұрын

foreman sparred a lot with Liston in 68 and 69. foreman said he couldn't back Liston up. he also took on the Liston bad man image.

@georgegreig8054 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah probably.

@duncanedwards7840 4 жыл бұрын

Wepner was only put down against Ali I hear , so not against Foreman ? As said in this commentary ?

@davidsmith-hb1jx Жыл бұрын

Sonny deserved better than what he got.

@kevinmunday6263 Жыл бұрын

Wepner was too brave mixing it . Trying to get close and match even an old Liston was nuts. Wepner Said Liston hit harder than Foreman, Chuck looked a frightful mess after trying to brawl with Sonny....

@paulweir5031 Жыл бұрын

B G is correct in believing that Sonny had the largest hands of any champ, 15" round; Carnera just pipped at 14.75". Dempsey and Tunney both small at 11.25". Chuck not only had over 70 stitches inserted post fight, he also had a broken cheekbone and nose. I saw him being interviewed many moons ago and remember this quote re Sonny: ' Every time he hit me it felt like he broke something '. Liston aged 44 I would say, based on Floyd Patterson's reckoning, and Frazier wouldn't go near him: lucky Joe.

@paulweir5031 Жыл бұрын

' stands about six feet two and a half ' : people shrink as they age, but the commentator had Sonny growing 2".

@YungL.i.X. Жыл бұрын

Sonny Liston looks so sturdy in these fights. I wonder what his diet and routine looked like

@wozslater7695 8 ай бұрын

'Mysterious circumstances' indeed, without any doubt the man was 'moidered'...

@Mr1gladiatore 8 ай бұрын

Liston was probably taken out by the mob making it look like he had a bad drug habit. Liston hated needles, he was afraid of them.

@haochaotsiminh6193 8 жыл бұрын

LOL at ali signing autographs for ppl ewho call him ali but not who call him clay xD

@cisco4766 5 жыл бұрын

who's here after The Brawler

@JimD410 4 жыл бұрын

Chuck is better. Check that one out if you haven't already is great movie.

@paulomachado2513 7 ай бұрын

there is no way that the fights of liston with ali (aka cassius clay) don't be fixes

@iansnyder274 4 жыл бұрын

Wepner looks like Jason unmasked from Friday the 13

@delpage1 3 жыл бұрын

And Liston looks like Freddie Kruger with that 84" reach

@ronaldlevao8251 7 ай бұрын

Yes, Liston was top-10 all timer to be sure. But he committed the sin in the Ali rematch of throwing a title fight without even TRYING to make it look on the level. Hard to tell what he was thinking--was it smothered hostility against the guys who made him do it? (Geraldine, I think, once said he feared no man except for the guys who managed him.) He had been in great shape 6 months earlier --films of him training now available on youtube-- but when that was cancelled, he hit the bottle more than the heavy bag.

@Kohl423 10 жыл бұрын

Liston was certainly in his forties by the time of this fight. Still had that great jab and despite the height disadvantage that big reach of his remained a potent weapon. The reality was that by the time Liston fought Patterson for the title he was already past his best and was nearer 34years of age than the official and quite ridiculous 28years!

@goodvibes4459 2 жыл бұрын

Also if he survived he probably would have gotten another shot at the title after this fight. He was making a comeback like Foreman did in the 90's.

@dicktracy762 Жыл бұрын

Well, Sonny listed 1932 as his dob. His wife was born in 1925, officially.

@deacontheseer4804 4 жыл бұрын

Sonny fought like a big strong man supposed to.

@dwcushman1 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely ridiculous this fight went on so long. Wepner took an inhumane beating. The fact he wanted to keep fighting should have been solidly overruled. Wepner could have died from blood loss.

@jamessmythe1891 7 ай бұрын

Liston was hugely overrated, it’s obvious from this fight. Wepner, a club doorman giving boxer Liston hard time, made him look average!

@paulweir7122 7 жыл бұрын

Why can't people get their statistics right? In the 3rd rd commentary we are told that Sonny is 6'2.5" when he was half an inch over 6'.

@juliojames5986 8 ай бұрын

Liston winning with just his left jab !

@21GunStudio 9 ай бұрын

Wepner one of only 3 people to knock down Ali? H Cooper and Frazier?

@NEVER--MIND 7 ай бұрын

'Knocked Ali down', by stepping on his foot.

@poppopartist3870 4 жыл бұрын

Hammer Jab

@alvalankerofficial 9 жыл бұрын

People from New Jersey are some of the toughest mofo's in the country. They don't fuck around in that area, like Philadelphia which borders New Jersey, and then Jersey City and Brooklyn, NY Those are some seriously rough areas, no wonder they produced so many great fighters!

@jedus007 6 жыл бұрын

Chuck was indeed a great boxer , a guy who could take punches and and also throw punches .

@MohammadAli-gy8jf 5 жыл бұрын

Yes throw punches behind the head !!

@capacola262743 Жыл бұрын

great at getting his ass kicked.

@GuyFromTheSouth 11 ай бұрын

To me he seems well rounded but not great at anything. He seems like he just has intermediate skills but his blue collar style toughness carried him through his career

@feckyoo2 4 жыл бұрын

This was filmed in 1970 but looks like 1933

@alexochoa5053 4 жыл бұрын

Probably used an old camera

@tannerVBHC 9 жыл бұрын

is this the original commentator?

@MarcosSantos-gh8jp 8 жыл бұрын

+tannerVBHC Not, for sure..... lol xD

@lalatavares5199 3 жыл бұрын

This cannot be the original commentor. He sound like he's not even watching the fight..

@syourke3 Жыл бұрын

Every time he hit me, he broke something! Chuck Wepner..

@ronaldlevao8251 7 ай бұрын

One of my favorite Wepner quotes. I think it came during an interview when he was asked if Liston hit harder than Foreman

@syourke3 7 ай бұрын

@@ronaldlevao8251 Gotta love ❤️ The Bayonne Bleeder!

@mgt4673 7 жыл бұрын

The voice\quality doesnt match the video.

@502waf 10 жыл бұрын

Perhaps Liston died in mysterious circumstances shortly after this fight because he was supposed to take a dive in this fight too, like he did against Ali, I agree with NIHLIST "No way the Ali fights were legit".

@oguzqagan 10 жыл бұрын

Bullshit. Only hate.

@christorpher84 9 жыл бұрын

i swear to god ali got some gifts in his career and that was one of them!!!!!

@christorpher84 9 жыл бұрын

no its called truth

@oguzqagan 9 жыл бұрын

christorpher84 prove to me he took a dive.

@jefftravis3808 8 жыл бұрын

+Onur Turk Only someone very lacking in boxing knowledge doesn't know Liston took dives. He admitted it. And at least one match vs. Ali was a dive. Ali screamed at him when Liston was on the mat to get up cuz no one would believe he'd go down after the 'phantom punch'. Stop living in denial.