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Sony DualShock 4 Back Button Attachment Review vs Xbox Elite Controller Series 2

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@kseries1981
@kseries1981 4 жыл бұрын
this item is as popular as toilet paper, cant find it anywhere
@mgpdevil
@mgpdevil 4 жыл бұрын
Or only produced in Ferrari quantities.
@ThisIsJesus
@ThisIsJesus 4 жыл бұрын
I got mine day 1. I didn't think it was a popular item until my coworker wanted one. N well... Best buy is selling open box but full price.
@MajorisMons
@MajorisMons 4 жыл бұрын
Try walmart, they seem to have anywhere between 10-15 of them.
@Xxanderbeau
@Xxanderbeau 4 жыл бұрын
@@MajorisMons Walmarts near me are all out.
@christophernewby6377
@christophernewby6377 4 жыл бұрын
I sold mine on Ebay for over £60
@unap16
@unap16 4 жыл бұрын
Ser Will Judd looks like a younger version of Richard Leadbetter.
@hababacon
@hababacon 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe Will is Richard's nephew or love child.
@lllBASlll
@lllBASlll 4 жыл бұрын
God, I wish I had posture like you guys. Ever since my bathroom scale displayed "one person at a time" I sit like Sonic the Hedgehog during a roll.
@inthefade
@inthefade 4 жыл бұрын
They look like they have boards strapped to their backs.
@minners71
@minners71 4 жыл бұрын
@Op I wouldn't worry about it the medical profession now say that sitting upright like that is very bad for the back and Utsav healthier to slouch when sitting.
@campersruincod6134
@campersruincod6134 4 жыл бұрын
minners71 got any links?
@christophernewby6377
@christophernewby6377 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Are they purposely trying to sit upright like that? Haha
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 4 жыл бұрын
one person at a time?
@mattygee79
@mattygee79 4 жыл бұрын
I have nerve damage and this is a godsend. I can press L1 again!
@obamacheck3567
@obamacheck3567 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine trying to play Sekiro
@Lock2002ful
@Lock2002ful 4 жыл бұрын
mattygee79 That’s wonderful. Sorry to hear that you have nerve damage. Hope you can eventually recover or at least with helpful devices like these enjoy your past time hobbies again. :)
@mattygee79
@mattygee79 4 жыл бұрын
Obama Check I was able to beat sekiro with button mapping!
@ShupperDupper
@ShupperDupper 4 жыл бұрын
Obama Check ps4 has a customizable controller.
@En7my
@En7my 4 жыл бұрын
Boohoo
@MasterMayhem78
@MasterMayhem78 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this thing. Even though it felt weird for the first couple weeks, I can't imagine playing any game without it anymore. Every game can benefit from this.
@mattygee79
@mattygee79 4 жыл бұрын
Klust413 sorry only weirdos play using the claw method
@jamescornwell1935
@jamescornwell1935 4 жыл бұрын
well you can spot the duders that don’t play fighting games. honestly this clunky overpriced attachment only serves the shooster crowd for the ability to jump while aiming or melee etc. it is hardly necessary and we can bet the ds5 will have better than this with more refinement in accessibility on console options. is it good to have an option like this for sure, is it the be all end all? hardly. as is you can get a mayflash adapter and use whatever you want which a lot of people with a switch and ps4 do already. calling someone a simp or a virgin is pointless. grow the fuck up. getting these and the stick height add ons begs the question why aren’t you just playing shoosters on pc? well? pc is the superior platform for that genre full stop. as well as others like strategy.
@MasterMayhem78
@MasterMayhem78 4 жыл бұрын
Klust413 Actually I'm better off with this attachment that I already own and chose this because I despise the claw grip. Thanks for your concern.
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 4 жыл бұрын
GeorgeIsGettingUpset what?! I been playing that way for over a decade. And it wasn’t even a choice. I just didn’t like taking my thumb off the right stick when rebuilding a barrier on zombies on cod waw.
@KayJay01
@KayJay01 4 жыл бұрын
That thing kinda looks like the dualshock4 finally hit puberty.
@Schadows77
@Schadows77 4 жыл бұрын
Since Sony announced PS4 controllers will be compatible with PS5, and seeing how it came that late in the generation, I feel it is clearly a way to make DualShock 4 on par with DS5, feature-wise.
@liveultra4325
@liveultra4325 4 жыл бұрын
What I'm thinking. I reckon it's for people not wanting to buy extra dual shock 5s. I think this hints strongly what they will include.
@xxlive4eatingxx275
@xxlive4eatingxx275 4 жыл бұрын
Schadows77 Maybe the DS5 will also have the same form factor and you can actually use the attachment with the DS5. Or they’ll sell a DS5 version of it. I don’t see Sony putting some expensive controller into the PS5 box because the actual console seems so expensive to make.
@valoric4767
@valoric4767 4 жыл бұрын
@@xxlive4eatingxx275 It isn't expensive to add back buttons.
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 4 жыл бұрын
When they announced that?
@Carsickness86
@Carsickness86 4 жыл бұрын
Ya I don’t think so. No patents have been released on such a controller DS5. It would of leaked with the Dev kits (because obviously game devs would need to know how many buttons hey have to design their games with). Plus the cost. $20+ for manufacturing costs on a launch console is a huge deal. Especially since we’re hearing that Sony is having a hard time keeping the PS5’s cost down.
@HiddenArsenal77
@HiddenArsenal77 4 жыл бұрын
The gent on the left is like a sexy Todd Howard
@Taijifufu
@Taijifufu 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the Steam Controller has always been the back buttons too. I'm happy to see these become standard.
@MrSerr
@MrSerr 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using this attachment since release and the 3 customization settings for different games is the best feature. At first you’ll feel weird but after an hour of COD:MW you get used to it. Great on Red Dead too. It’s a great product I love it.
@themarcshark
@themarcshark 4 жыл бұрын
It changed my entire red dead experience. I mapped the right button to X so I can gallop my horse and look around using the right stick at the same time. Then I disabled auto camera follow so now I have full control of the camera as I ride around
@Nikelangelo
@Nikelangelo 4 жыл бұрын
@@themarcshark I have not played RDR but whenever a game wants me to hold one the four buttons while I would like to look around, I just use my pointer and keep my thumb on the right stick. Not the most ergonomic way but one I have been doing in many games for ages, I just need that camera control I am used to from PC
@themarcshark
@themarcshark 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nikelangelo that's what I had to do too! But with these back buttons you can avoid that and comfortably keep control of the camera
@amilyester
@amilyester 4 жыл бұрын
Hope DualShock 5 has some new features like this.
@phant0mdummy
@phant0mdummy 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really hoping to see innovation there. Steam controller thought outside the box and I want to see these consoles also try taking controllers a step further. Sticks are adequate but there has to be a better way in 2020.
@phant0mdummy
@phant0mdummy 4 жыл бұрын
@@mutalix I am not hopeful that they will innovate on dual analogs. It's been well over a decade and they have hardly touched the concept. Its without a doubt the most forgotten feature of console gaming, and in my opinion a more responsive and accurate controller is what console gaming needs most.
@propheticrain-maker1486
@propheticrain-maker1486 4 жыл бұрын
@@phant0mdummy First of all, hi! I remember you from Praises streams. (Assuming you're the only Color Bars). Also, absolutely agreed.
@phant0mdummy
@phant0mdummy 4 жыл бұрын
@@propheticrain-maker1486 hey ! It's me.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 4 жыл бұрын
As long as it has a touch pad, I'll be happy. Gotta drop those likes!
@Blank-lp4fz
@Blank-lp4fz 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Digital foundry deals guy, more of him plz. Also great review as always.
@MavihsLH
@MavihsLH 4 жыл бұрын
Can we take a moment to notice how fantastic their sitting posture is?
@ugonnachit4661
@ugonnachit4661 4 жыл бұрын
Looks painfull
@antwango
@antwango 4 жыл бұрын
lol hand movements and sitting posture add in cernys asmr and boooom you have a new sub genre of tech analysis..... make it happen people
@NFMorley
@NFMorley 4 жыл бұрын
Have the PS4 attachment, and tbh it's decent but the weight/balance of the controller is thrown off a little. It not that heavy, and could just be how I hold it (I have massive hands!) - but it doesn't feel quite as nice as the Xbox Elite controller. That being said, the massive price disparity makes it hard to truly criticise that much!
@zybch
@zybch 4 жыл бұрын
Nevermind The price disparity is irrelevant when compared to the feature disparity. 2 extra buttons compared to the dozen or so things the elite v2 adds more than makes up for any price difference.
@propheticrain-maker1486
@propheticrain-maker1486 4 жыл бұрын
@@zybch while you're absolutely right, one caveat is; that if you only want the back buttons, the price disparity is quite convincing.
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 4 жыл бұрын
You do realize that they have numerous options that are just like this except much much better for a similar price on the xbox from multiple companies. It simply attaches via the battery back so it sticks on in the same place the elite did.
@bobdylan1968
@bobdylan1968 4 жыл бұрын
@@propheticrain-maker1486 its absolutely not. Again, you can buy these things and have been able to for years and years for xbox controllers. They slot right into the battery slot and can provide multiple sets of paddles in the same configuration as the elite. So, no, the price difference is irrelevant. And comparing this to the elite makes no sense when they have thos exact type of product, multiple of them, for a similar price.
@propheticrain-maker1486
@propheticrain-maker1486 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobdylan1968 its the only first party manufactured product by Sony, that can be compared to the Elite. While I don't doubt the Xbox has quality attachments made by third party, if we were talking third parties, Playstation also has options to consider in the conversation. Whether or not they're better, isn't really the point.
@boussIRL
@boussIRL 4 жыл бұрын
Great, now maybe Siege can enable leaning without having to aim first on console
@KimDavid0222
@KimDavid0222 4 жыл бұрын
BoussIRL I don’t think that feature exists on console of the game
@heatcheque906
@heatcheque906 4 жыл бұрын
It's not coded into the game
@boussIRL
@boussIRL 4 жыл бұрын
@@heatcheque906 well that's unfortunate. I would hope they'd be able to patch in something so seemingly simple, but, L for them, I guess 💀
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 4 жыл бұрын
Ha bf4 had motion sensor leaning... In 2013...
@boussIRL
@boussIRL 4 жыл бұрын
@@prestoneric6705 well, using the motion sensor isn't actually the most popular option for people to use, unfortunately. It'd feel pretty weird in Siege as well, I would think.
@jz2187
@jz2187 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, looking forward to more content from Will
@lionheart4424
@lionheart4424 4 жыл бұрын
I am happy that the editor snugged Souls and Bloodborne footage there because the button placement for running is really not ideal and this kind of gadgets really could improve the gameplay experience.
@MisterTTG
@MisterTTG 4 жыл бұрын
definitely. the multifinger claw you need to use to run and control the camera at the same time is something i got used to despite being stupid
@RevoltingSnakeman99
@RevoltingSnakeman99 4 жыл бұрын
@@MisterTTG My friend (casul) made fun of me for using the controller like that for Souls. Glad I'm not the only one who figured this method out. It's the best configuration I've used so far.
@CustomPCBuilderUK
@CustomPCBuilderUK 4 жыл бұрын
Will looks like he could be Richard's son
@lirfrank
@lirfrank 4 жыл бұрын
No chance, he doesn't move his hands enough.
@XxMsrSzprzxX
@XxMsrSzprzxX 4 жыл бұрын
@@lirfrank I came to say the exact same thing.
@jsward96
@jsward96 4 жыл бұрын
Richard's son actually died a few years ago.
@cheek077
@cheek077 4 жыл бұрын
For real? Damn.....
@kaints1
@kaints1 4 жыл бұрын
@Ink Bass you watch the dark on netflix dude?
@_Deergod
@_Deergod 4 жыл бұрын
The main things I bought my elite controller for were the swappable sticks and the adjustable triggers. Don't actually use the back buttons much, if at all. The included dock/charger thing is nice too. I don't think this product is really that comparable.
@JP-qb8qx
@JP-qb8qx 4 жыл бұрын
When I was introduced to the L/R buttons on Snes, it felt so odd. It took me forever to master the R, let alone the L. I would remap the fierce punch on the X and the Fierce kick on the A on fighting games. Then the Ps1 with it's 4, now up to 8 on the X elite. Man... I need to grow more fingers.
@kurtisrinker1202
@kurtisrinker1202 4 жыл бұрын
LOL that's funny because I did the exact same thing with street fighter 2 (all of the street fighters actually) except I used the Y and B buttons. I didn't have any issues learning to use L and R and immediately mapped weak punch and kick to them because I rarely used those actions.
@Iliek
@Iliek 4 жыл бұрын
Grow some dexterity
@lemming9984
@lemming9984 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see how you can compare a high quality purpose built elite controller with a simple attachment. It's like comparing a 1980 Skoda with a 2019 Aston Martin.
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 4 жыл бұрын
For real though elite controllers don't even have a touchpad
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 3 жыл бұрын
@@JAKOB1977 yeah touchpad and gyro sensors. It's like having another 10 buttons
@noshow
@noshow 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's Tom! Cool, we like Tom too!
@plivajucipauk7742
@plivajucipauk7742 4 жыл бұрын
I have actually found out that I am some kind of weirdo since I use 4 fingers all the time to press shoulder buttons, most people do it with two fingers most of the time and that means that their middle fingers are ready to move between lower triggers and back buttons. My middle fingers are stuck to lower triggers and if I move them down I basicly lose lower triggers since my index finger dont have muscle memory to switch down. So I need to use my ring finger but that is bit uncomfortable.
@tonyrivera8996
@tonyrivera8996 2 жыл бұрын
8:45 The Dualsense Edge patent right there.
@king_kai1354
@king_kai1354 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think we can compare the two...🤔🤔
@PSspecialist
@PSspecialist 4 жыл бұрын
You can compare the feel of back buttons...
@brightblackgrouse6236
@brightblackgrouse6236 4 жыл бұрын
but they did
@retrodreamer9439
@retrodreamer9439 4 жыл бұрын
@@brightblackgrouse6236 2 completely different classes can't be compared.But a regular ms controller with plastic button attatchment's for the back can be, they have existed for year's😜👍
@cyanprince00
@cyanprince00 4 жыл бұрын
Difference is, no average person is going to buy the overpriced one and the other is a efficient enough solution. Whats the point of a $200 controller on console? COD? Lol, there's nothing like CS: GO or anything thats THAT competitive.
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 4 жыл бұрын
I know! Elite controllers don't even have a touchpad! It's so dumb
@FKA_Skull
@FKA_Skull 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, now if they could just fix the rest of the controller it might be half as good as an elite controller.
@1chiTheKiller
@1chiTheKiller 4 жыл бұрын
This is a weird comparison. One is an attachment for a standard controller and the other is a very high end top of the line quality controller. They both amount to having paddles but still, it's kind of goofy. Either way, I play on PC a lot and I have always preferred the Xbox style layout over the PlayStation layout anyway. If I had a PS4 I'd still likely get the Xbox Elite controller since I would use it for PC play. But this add-on looks decent enough for a cheap and quick way to add paddle controls if you already have a standard controller.
@red2432
@red2432 4 жыл бұрын
110 million people have dualshock 4, so yeah
@bretttheillustrator
@bretttheillustrator 4 жыл бұрын
@@red2432 okay? The Xbox elite 2 is still extremely superior. This is an odd comparison
@Psychoterratic
@Psychoterratic 4 жыл бұрын
Alex lol what the hell is that Supposed to mean?! The elite controller is a premium accessory not for everyone anyway...
@ShapelessHail
@ShapelessHail 4 жыл бұрын
I play on pc too, and i prefer the ps4 controller over xbox due to it having gyroscope and accelerometer, bringing it on par with the steam controller. The xbox controller just feels better to hold than the ps4 one, but sadly no gyroscope, which is my only gripe. Even the switch pro controller has a gyro. I hope microsoft adds this feature for next xbox.
@bretttheillustrator
@bretttheillustrator 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShapelessHail I don't see the point of gyroscope. Unless I'm using it for some odd form of vr. But if I was doing that I would just get controllers
@mileskosik472
@mileskosik472 4 жыл бұрын
The steam controller is probably the cheapest way to have programmable paddles on pc in a nice package
@chipgw
@chipgw 4 жыл бұрын
If you can still find one now that they aren't making more. Glad I picked up a couple extras in that final sale...
@soarcheetah
@soarcheetah 4 жыл бұрын
Valve stopped making them so the prices will only go up
@joejoe2658
@joejoe2658 4 жыл бұрын
it's shite for gaming but at least it has GYRO. unlike these 2 bits of trash.
@splitcryptic
@splitcryptic 4 жыл бұрын
@@joejoe2658 Dualshock 4 has gyro actually
@GhostDelta
@GhostDelta 4 жыл бұрын
Best $30 spent, way better than I expected them to be. This is coming from someone who has never used a pro controller, and my main concern was accidentally pressing them as I have a pretty firm grip, but I have yet to press them on accident
@mathburn1
@mathburn1 4 жыл бұрын
The new guy explained it so well. Hope he would get more screen time from now on.
@TheIshikawaRin
@TheIshikawaRin 4 жыл бұрын
Background music (in order): Bjørn Lynne - New Tech Haven Bjørn Lynne - Astronavigator Bjørn Lynne - Aurora Polaris
@jacobhaslam8493
@jacobhaslam8493 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see Will! Nice comparison 👍🏻
@Jaqen-HGhar
@Jaqen-HGhar 4 жыл бұрын
The 3 profiles thing really isn't an issue when you can rebind whatever buttons you want in the PS4's OS settings and you can set the rebind menu you pop up in the quick menu that comes up when you push the PS button on the controller.
@nottyseel949
@nottyseel949 4 жыл бұрын
I hope controllers that can be separated comes back with the next generation. Essentially what the Valve Index controllers are. Gaming is so much more comfortable over long periods with wrist flexibility and stability options.
@Powerman293
@Powerman293 4 жыл бұрын
The Switch is already ahead on this regard.
@nottyseel949
@nottyseel949 4 жыл бұрын
@@Powerman293 True, just a not in the realm of elite control per se.
@Ray__E
@Ray__E 4 жыл бұрын
I can't find this thing anywhere. It's sold out everywhere. I wonder if the Dualshock 5 will have this implemented out of the box?
@amnril
@amnril 4 жыл бұрын
In the UK I think GAME exclusively sells it. That’s where I picked mine up from.
@NFMorley
@NFMorley 4 жыл бұрын
@@amnril - yup, only Game here unfortunately. I bought one, but Id be lying if I didn't resent having to buy it from Game and support such a garbage company. The box even arrived crushed and twisted as GAME were too cheap to ship it properly in something more than a plastic envelope. (and they wonder why they have such a poor reputation!)
@sonicfreak94
@sonicfreak94 4 жыл бұрын
I had a lot of trouble finding it here in the US. I tried to pre-order it from WalMart and their site just wouldn't let me. Nowhere in physical stores, online prices doubled to $60, local stores not receiving any more shipments in the near future... so I bought an open box unit online from BestBuy for $30. Works great just the same, but very difficult to get your hands on.
@amnril
@amnril 4 жыл бұрын
Nevermind luckily mine arrived undamaged from GAME, luck if the draw I guess!
@peshmerge44
@peshmerge44 4 жыл бұрын
Out of the box? I doubt that. Companies like having accessories they can sell. And not everybody needs back buttons.
@bambou1991
@bambou1991 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh, an attachment that adds a button on the back! I thought it added a button with the "back" functionality. Makes sense.
@davidvalenzuela2003
@davidvalenzuela2003 4 жыл бұрын
After purchasing the back button attachment for the PS4 DualShock controller, I just can't play without it. It's definitely a game-changer for first person shooter games.
@ZetZatar
@ZetZatar 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Will! Welcome!
@playstation1freak26
@playstation1freak26 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully paddles are standard on controllers in a few years so there's more games like Doom Eternal and Jumping Flash that has lots of platforming as well as shooting. Also I would like the switch gyro to be standard too.
@mileskosik472
@mileskosik472 4 жыл бұрын
The steam controller was so ahead of its time. Both gyro and paddles.
@playstation1freak26
@playstation1freak26 4 жыл бұрын
@jesus barrera Yes but games don't let you aim using it for some reason like you can on switch but it can be used on pc with ds4windows or steam input.
@Neomike22
@Neomike22 4 жыл бұрын
If you haven't tried the official PlayStation Store, you should order there. If you are a plus member, you don't have to pay for shipping
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I would've known this earlier. Oh well I still need at least one more! Thanks for the info
@joejoe2658
@joejoe2658 4 жыл бұрын
if you haven't tried GYRO, you should jump into this millennium. you bloody noobs will buy any crap they feed you.
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 4 жыл бұрын
@@joejoe2658 what are you on about?
@nlikeflynn8837
@nlikeflynn8837 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see it anywhere in the shop on the PS Store website...
@micahpharoh
@micahpharoh 4 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say the Elite controller is a game changer. I've tried some other attachable versions for Xbox and they just don't compare. Looking forward to trying some variations for the PS as well.
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 4 жыл бұрын
They should fix the dead zone on the controller and maybe I’ll play on it more.
@micahpharoh
@micahpharoh 4 жыл бұрын
@@H.E.M. You can adjust the stick response curve in the Accessories App, maybe that would help you?
@SvDKILLSWITCH
@SvDKILLSWITCH 4 жыл бұрын
Being able to map all of the face buttons to the paddles is a huge benefit in games like Halo 5, and it drastically improved my play ceiling. I'd love to see it become standard next gen.
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 4 жыл бұрын
micahpharoh not on the regular controllers. I’m not spending $150
@IxChipmunk101xI
@IxChipmunk101xI 4 жыл бұрын
@@H.E.M. Not sure what you're talking about there isn't a dead zone issue, and even if that was the case the accersery app allows you to change things like that.
@danmann861
@danmann861 4 жыл бұрын
I used this to play The Last of Us recently. I mapped the back buttons to run and crouch as I always thought Run on L1 was cumbersome in that game. Made life so much easier. Especially playing on Survivor. Transitioning between run and aiming was so much more intuitive as opposed to holding on to both shoulder button and analog. Works awesome for Call of Duty as well. Sure I would have loved a proper Elite Dual Shock controller as the Elite Xbox controller is just SO good. But for $40, it’s an awesome work around. Really love it
@chanpagne_supernova
@chanpagne_supernova 4 жыл бұрын
To compare the two is frankly insulting
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly the elite controller doesn't even have a touchpad!
@chanpagne_supernova
@chanpagne_supernova 4 жыл бұрын
@@prestoneric6705 LoL
@norwegianprince
@norwegianprince 4 жыл бұрын
Counter point: if your a PC user go out and find a Steam Controller
@LogainAblar
@LogainAblar 4 жыл бұрын
I went with the Xbox Elite series 2 over the Dualshock 4 with the attachment for a couple of reasons. The main reason being the Elite controller is more than just a extra set of buttons and to diminish it as simply as that is ignorant. It's the ability to swap out the analog sticks, the d-pad and the back buttons that are key. This is all accomplished without the need to unscrew any part of the controller which cannot be said for the PS4 Dualshock equivalent of the Elite 2. The other key reason is the software to create custom Elite configurations isn't hard to use at all and allows for a even greater level of customization than the competition. Microsoft's software solution reminds me of the robust Steam controller solution but not as in depth. The software customization allows the Elite 2 controller to provide a level of accuracy that you simply can't match on a Dualshock 4 unless gyro control comes into play. Analog stick sensitivity is adjustable as well as customization of dead zones, analog trigger sensitivity and full button layout customization. Three controller profiles can be saved directly to the controller and supports Xbox One, PC and even Switch as I use a Elite Controller wireless on Switch with a Brock One X adapter that adds gyro aiming. My custom profiles on the Elite are recognized when using the controller on Switch. When discussing the extra buttons they are important but not the whole story, this cannot be stressed enough. But I do give the Dualshock credit here through because even just two extra back buttons are a godsend. It's a terrible design to have jump assigned to any of the face buttons because it forces the user to take their thumb off of the right analog stick to press the jump button. In fast paced games, not only can this make you less accurate under pressure it can be the split second difference between killing your opponent or your opponent killing you. Yeah, the Elite 2 controller is expensive but it's a hell of lot more involved with it than just extra buttons. A Dualshock 4 with the attachment doesn't even match the original Elite Controller because the original Elite supports in depth customization similar to the Elite 2. On PC, neither controller is better than the Steam Controller unless fighting games come into play. Otherwise, the Steam controller gives mouse/keyboard levels of speed and accuracy in any game that requires the player to accurately shoot a target. Neither the Elite, Elite 2 or the Dualshock 4 reach that level of precision but the Elite/Elite 2 are closer to it than the Dualshock 4 even with the extra button attachment.
@xSTiCKFiGAx
@xSTiCKFiGAx 4 жыл бұрын
Baby’s first Elite Controller
@segat-800
@segat-800 4 жыл бұрын
Will looking like he doesn't want to catch the coronavirus off of Tom.
@Tugennov
@Tugennov 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Will!
@ElricSowrd
@ElricSowrd 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it can be useful for First Person Shooters as well as Metal Gear Solid V, Resident Evils with over the shoulder and Shining Resonance Refrain.
@RicoSeattle
@RicoSeattle 4 жыл бұрын
How can this attachment be useful in Metal Gear Solid V?
@RandomGamingMoments925
@RandomGamingMoments925 4 жыл бұрын
@@RicoSeattle It's useful in literally every game, if you think about it lol
@RicoSeattle
@RicoSeattle 4 жыл бұрын
@@RandomGamingMoments925 I get that it's useful in every game, but he mentioned MGS specifically and I was wondering if he had a reason.
@ElricSowrd
@ElricSowrd 4 жыл бұрын
@@RicoSeattle The use of the Square Button's function to dodge.
@RicoSeattle
@RicoSeattle 4 жыл бұрын
Otaku_GameFan Ok, thank you for the reply.
@literaticrux8292
@literaticrux8292 4 жыл бұрын
These are finally back in stock at Amazon. Just bought it
@miladshahbaz8522
@miladshahbaz8522 4 жыл бұрын
Sold out here in Germany where I live.
@franzusgutlus54
@franzusgutlus54 4 жыл бұрын
Corona Hamsterkäufe...
@stefans4562
@stefans4562 4 жыл бұрын
Deutschland war hakt schon immer Play Station Land.
@thingsiplay
@thingsiplay 4 жыл бұрын
@@franzusgutlus54 Someone ist schneller gewesen als ich.
@miladshahbaz8522
@miladshahbaz8522 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr Glass but not for an overpriced piece of crap.
@The2808erik
@The2808erik 4 жыл бұрын
I use my PS4 controller also for PC and Nintendo Switch. The Xbox Elite controller is more than double the price and has no touch pad or gyro controls. The touch Pad isn't essential for PC, but it's convenient to navigate my PC from the couch, on the other hand the gyro controls are must in many Nintendo switch games.
@Patrick73787
@Patrick73787 4 жыл бұрын
I have an Astro C40. How do you make the touchpad work on PC?
@SBandy
@SBandy 4 жыл бұрын
I picked one up, as a southpaw it is a life saver for first person games without having to fiddle with the system button mapping for each individual game. Makes Doom 2016 in particular much better.
@M1tZk1
@M1tZk1 4 жыл бұрын
3 profiles aren't just for 3 games. You can play 10 different fps and still use the one profile for jumping and crouching. So basically having one for Shooters and action, the second one for shifting in driving games and a third one for a maybe more specific game you play. Maybe Kingdom Hearts 3
@yuridouna1267
@yuridouna1267 4 жыл бұрын
Sony has officially licensed controllers aswell which offer the same feature set of the Elite controllers. Nacon Revolution Unlimited is a great pro controller around that same price point. I don't think Sony wants to get in that market because they see what these companies can do with all these pro controllers. This back attachment offers exactly what people want: extra buttons. Nothing more, nothing less.
@MarcJenningstv
@MarcJenningstv 4 жыл бұрын
I spotted a problem that will hurt sales. "GAME EXCLUSIVE". followed by the message "Sorry, this product is currently out of stock, but might be available in store".
@supermadkid
@supermadkid 4 жыл бұрын
The elite controller is so damn premium it's like in a league of it's own. Definitely worth a purchase if you can afford it.
@finraziel
@finraziel 4 жыл бұрын
For pc use, the fact that the elite buttons are handled in software is actually also a positive thing. Unfortunately Microsoft doesn't allow it, but with rewasd you can map those back controllers to something other than another controller button. For instance in dragons dogma I had one pedal bound to a keyboard key and used it to drink potions in fights, something that normally is not possible with a controller without opening the menu. Unfortunately rewasd does cost money though. With Sony's solution I don't think this is possible because the conversion is all done on the controller so the PC won't know if you pressed the back button or the button it's assigned to. Other than that, personally I have to say that after using the joy that is the elite controller, it's hard to go back to a regular one, Sony or Microsoft. If you play a lot I'd say it's worth it (depending on your financial situation of course). edit: By the way, one thing that I'm not so convinced about regarding the Sony attachment... The DS4 battery life is pretty appalling, I think we all know that. So I have two controllers and switch between that, when one starts to get empty I switch it with the one that was charging. But with this I'd have to unplug and replug the extension every time too. I'm wondering how long the connectors would be alright with that.
@DeegoL9
@DeegoL9 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting this attachment since news came out. It’s been out of stock since release.
@manuel0578
@manuel0578 4 жыл бұрын
Umm you’re comparing them but you don’t say a single word about the much higher build quality of the elite?
@manuel0578
@manuel0578 4 жыл бұрын
jesus barrera when?
@0ring0
@0ring0 4 жыл бұрын
Bought this out of curiosity seeing that I don't need it because I have a Scuf Impact controller for the PS4. But the paddles in this adapter feel way better than the stiff, small, vertical paddles on the pro controller. I would love to Sony expanding on this with the PS5 with 4 paddles. Also, with this adapter and the Magic-NS Controller adapter for the Nintendo Switch, I now have an "Elite" controller for the Switch with working gyro sensors. It is an amazing experience playing Breathe of The Wild with an easy to reach jump button.
@M1tZk1
@M1tZk1 4 жыл бұрын
3:17 easy to install, but has to make a cut until it actually fits. 😅
@Akrymir
@Akrymir 4 жыл бұрын
Back buttons need to be standard and seen as unique inputs. Mapping existing inputs to back buttons is nice, but having them as options for additional input increases the range of what developers can do. I'd suggest making them optional since some people really don't like back buttons. Not only will making them unique inputs open the doors for more options it will allow for better native across games, meaning no need for profiles since it's naturally part of your custom controller scheme.
@Muqqe
@Muqqe 4 жыл бұрын
Please make sure to give Will a glass of water before the next video ;-)
@user-hy6hi7fg5m
@user-hy6hi7fg5m 4 жыл бұрын
take a shot every time he says absolutely
@microsista1413
@microsista1413 4 жыл бұрын
$30 for 2 buttons is not that cheap imo
@aideniridescence1437
@aideniridescence1437 4 жыл бұрын
Bet: This is for cross, forward and backward compatibilities, + streaming PS5 games when the DualShock 5 is revealed to have built in paddles (buttons on the underside).
@fmjacket6390
@fmjacket6390 4 жыл бұрын
these have been sold out all gamestop, target, walmart, best buy, amazon since release months ago :(
@darkmaster539
@darkmaster539 4 жыл бұрын
This feels disingenuous. There's no comparison and there shouldn't be. One is £30, and the other is £160.
@tariqalardah1
@tariqalardah1 4 жыл бұрын
70+30
@existentialselkath1264
@existentialselkath1264 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this feels a lot like a clickbait Eurogamer article rather than a good digital foundry video
@Volker_A4
@Volker_A4 4 жыл бұрын
Retail it's more like 70-80 for the whole ps4 setup and if all you want is paddles there aren't many options
@thingsiplay
@thingsiplay 4 жыл бұрын
You can't use the device on its own. You need to add the base PS4 controller price (lets say £40) to it as well. Also the X-Box Elite controller is of higher quality and more precision and not like the base controller quality of X-Box or Playstation. And you can change any buttons functionality on the XB Elite, more paddles, swappable d-pad and thumbsticks.
@cyrfung
@cyrfung 4 жыл бұрын
Which part of the video do you find unfair to the products?
@Himothy_xx
@Himothy_xx 4 жыл бұрын
Everything about the elite 2 controller is fucking awesome, chargeable battery, you can put your controller in the pouch and charge it, keep it from safe. Just everything about the elite 2 is fire 🥊🥊🔥🔥🔥
@chillgreg
@chillgreg 4 жыл бұрын
Forgot to show the Xbox controller travel case that is included!
@ea-sk8er_775
@ea-sk8er_775 4 жыл бұрын
It's super expensive online now because of people reselling it for higher prices. I was able to get it day one on amazon for 30 dollars and it's amazing. Can't play without it these days. Shame Sony didn't make more, I always see people looking for them.
@VerticalStrafes
@VerticalStrafes 4 жыл бұрын
Like the elite series 2 a lot but my first once had some issues. It powered off randomly and the left thumbstick failed to center, so I sent it to Microsoft under warranty and in 2 weeks I got a replacement. Mostly likely it was a repair of a different controller because it had an issue as well. The left bumper didn't work, so I sent it to Microsoft and 3rd time is a charm. This one works fine, like the controller a lot but took a while before I could even use it.
@ray4493
@ray4493 4 жыл бұрын
No matter what Dualshock 4 is still the best controller ever with all of it's feature. This is coming from a PC player. I've got both the Xbox and DS4.
@Yaster
@Yaster 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who had a PS4 and not an Xbox, I am not all that interested in comparing the back buttons to the Elite controller. I'm more interested in how this attachment compares to the controller thats blimming well sitting on the shelf behind you guys, the Razer Raiju. Also marking it down because you can't be arsed disconnecting the attachment so you can plonk it in a dock is really clutching at straws.
@TomsGotPowers
@TomsGotPowers 4 жыл бұрын
Like comparing a Bugatti to a Ford KA.
@JB2X-Z
@JB2X-Z 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I keep thinking of the 360 back button with this title. "Rear" would have been a better choice
@NeonTheon
@NeonTheon 4 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the DS4 on PC as I can control the mouse with the touchpad and it really opens up many other use cases for the PC once you can easily and intuitively control pretty much the whole thing with one controller remotely.
@Pd69bq
@Pd69bq 4 жыл бұрын
released at the final year of PS4 lifecycle, $30 is just slightly less than a new controller, and the biggest downside is that it has compatibility issue and might just not work on your older version controllers. I've tried on my sunset orange gen 5, the led doesn't light up, the buttons does nothing, only headphone jack works normally, it also caused my controller disconnect from PS4 several times.
@00shmee
@00shmee 4 жыл бұрын
I like the ease of having the button mapping on the controller, but the Xbox software lets you map any button to any other button. I hope Sony does that at some point.
@tremelo8508
@tremelo8508 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta give major props to Sony. For a device that is an an attachment, it feels perfect, as though its actually sculpted into the controller. I hope the DS5 has four buttons that implements into the controller in a similar fashion (without the attachment of course) It feels better than the paddles on my Power A Xbox controller or the paddles on the Steam Controller, which are a bit of cheese, because they are really part of the battery door (but they work fine).
@ThomasCaiJinzhan
@ThomasCaiJinzhan 4 жыл бұрын
Never has anything compared to toilet paper been considered a compliment....until now.
@kirk-daroostergordon9961
@kirk-daroostergordon9961 4 жыл бұрын
The Xbox Elite 2 controller is the best gaming console in the gaming industry
@YEE941
@YEE941 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@estusflask982
@estusflask982 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm....
@Gogo32monkey
@Gogo32monkey 4 жыл бұрын
"Controller is the best console"...?
@Kekorock1
@Kekorock1 4 жыл бұрын
You might want double check your statement buddy.
@delboy6384
@delboy6384 4 жыл бұрын
Kirk-Da Rooster Gordon Razor beats the crap out of it
@MediaBrad
@MediaBrad 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as I ask, I get to see the guy's face. Hi Tom. Feels like we see the other 3 much more on camera.
@jujuboyy_5
@jujuboyy_5 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why consoles don't just make back buttons standard. Make em independent buttons instead of being binded to other ones.
@morbid1.
@morbid1. 4 жыл бұрын
I don't comparing think this "strap on" to Elite Series 2 makes sense... not even talking about price but functions
@Patrick73787
@Patrick73787 4 жыл бұрын
Both come from the two console manufacturers. Hence the comparison
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 4 жыл бұрын
I know! The elite doesn't even have a touchpad! Lol
@Sh4rkill3r
@Sh4rkill3r 4 жыл бұрын
release a "very low cost item"... 30usd. for a f... piece of plastic WTF!!?
@Hikaru2Yuki
@Hikaru2Yuki 4 жыл бұрын
Great review as always and Judd doing really well too. This sure is a great piece of accessory and I really would like to have it, but sadly not available or only auctioned at crazy prices. This reminds so much of PSVR shortage. It‘s silly. People want it but can‘t get it. I tried day one everywhere and everywhere out of stock. Wonder when we get new copies of it.
@calimero574
@calimero574 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, but four objects on the back are not the same as four buttons. It could simply be a configuration option for the triggers.
@raheelvirk5333
@raheelvirk5333 4 жыл бұрын
We all know Xbox controller is superior in all ways , probably the greatest console controller in history.
@zZiL341yRj736
@zZiL341yRj736 4 жыл бұрын
Sure but the D-Pad for the Dual Shock is the best fucking D-Pad ever. It's segmented and tampered on all edges making playing shit like Street Fighters with out cutting up your damn thumb.
@prestoneric6705
@prestoneric6705 4 жыл бұрын
People talking about functionality of elite controllers when they're lacking motion controls or even a touchpad.
@zeniktorres4320
@zeniktorres4320 4 жыл бұрын
Lack of motion control on Xbox controllers is a huge negative, so it can't even compete with Sony's controllers.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 4 жыл бұрын
@@zeniktorres4320 Well hold on, who misses those things really? Motion controls?? It's not 2005 :)
@TheGamingDandy
@TheGamingDandy 4 жыл бұрын
It'd be a great "answer" to the Xbox elite controller if they made more than like 4 for the entire US.
@manuel0578
@manuel0578 4 жыл бұрын
Saying “touching the OLED” is a bit misleading as it’s not a touchscreen, there’s simply a mechanical button behind the screen
@chipgw
@chipgw 4 жыл бұрын
My preferred option for PC is the Steam Controller. They're the ones that really started the back button trend, and I like the touchpad+gyro combo. Still hoping for a V2.
@Grimm141
@Grimm141 4 жыл бұрын
Headphone phone jack covered = Fail
@augenlutschen
@augenlutschen 4 жыл бұрын
I wish xbox would release a similiar product in the future. The elite controller is to exp.
@kirk-daroostergordon9961
@kirk-daroostergordon9961 4 жыл бұрын
Microsoft can simply drop the price of the Elite controller lol
@purplereign8194
@purplereign8194 4 жыл бұрын
There are cheap third party xbox one controllers with paddles on back
@chrisbrown113096
@chrisbrown113096 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Glass who tf wants to pay 200$ for a controller lmao
@Yokonato
@Yokonato 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrown113096 most fight sticks for gamers who may use it for 3-4 games cost 200-300 on average.
@chrisbrown113096
@chrisbrown113096 4 жыл бұрын
Yokonato to each their own , but god damn I would never spend that much on a controller , rather buy another console lmao
@Jeenine
@Jeenine 4 жыл бұрын
Don't buy an elite controller. I hear the term *premium* being thrown around alot about the xbox elite controller in this video. I have gone through 3 elite controllers in a span of 5 months. Out of the 3, the first elite controller had the rubber underneath peel off from the heat of my hands. The second controller had the right bumper breaking from normal use. And the 3rd controller had both the bumper breaking and the rubber starting to peel off from the heat of my hands. In conclusion, the xbox one elite controller cannot be labeled as a premium product since it has incredibly poor durability. It is a cheap product made out of premium material at a premium price. Its better to buy a stock controller as they are a lot more durable or go for the cheapest option for paddles, knowing that you wont have to spend as much when it breaks.
@spartanghost9865
@spartanghost9865 4 жыл бұрын
Still have my original elite, in pristine condition. No issues whatsoever but I've heard not all live up to the price.
@Chronokatan
@Chronokatan 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing against that addon, but how is the most important feature of the XboX Elite Controller those back buttons. o.O What kind of argument is that? I and several of my friends bought it mainly for the replaceable sticks/dpad and the heavey weight and feel... I haven't used the back buttons ones. Haven't finished the video yet but that point really sounds like a setup/strange arguement to make.
@rinaa6865
@rinaa6865 4 жыл бұрын
That's correct, there is a reason why the Xbox Elite controller is the best-selling video game accessory in the USA and it's not just because it has back buttons.
@Chronokatan
@Chronokatan 4 жыл бұрын
@@rinaa6865 :) although that is a bit inflated.. it's best stelling by "money made" not by numbers... it's so high up there because it's expensiv. But I love it, still need to get the Series 2 before the new Xbox comes out.
@andrewhezekiahdaniel
@andrewhezekiahdaniel 4 жыл бұрын
Would be great if you could use two buttons on each back button.
@S1V3L
@S1V3L 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on those buttons
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