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Sony FX3 | First Look & Tests!

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@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
At 11:30 I say the FX6 has genlock, it doesn't just timecode!
@albertcurielx
@albertcurielx 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE your reviews! You guys are the BEST. Hands down the best reviewers!!
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Jake
@earthlevel4569
@earthlevel4569 3 жыл бұрын
built-in ND's would have solidified the higher price over the a7sIII
@travisminneapolis
@travisminneapolis 3 жыл бұрын
agree
@educatetube
@educatetube 3 жыл бұрын
XLR audio handle is included in FX3, so the price is quite similar.
@lucaloschi8958
@lucaloschi8958 3 жыл бұрын
@@educatetube You lose the evf for an handle without function if not the audio module that anyway has the lack of the mic. Personally it seems basically only a cosmetic change
@ResizeFilms
@ResizeFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant camera for professional video work. I’ve been absolutely loving working with it, really impressive package.
@FlipDeRiviera
@FlipDeRiviera 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant camera for professional video work. XLR inputs, active cooling system, mounting points, top handle, 10-bit internal and RAW video output. Powerful and reliable! Will definitely preorder one or two of them. Great review, greetings from Lisbon
@darkknightwithanidea1845
@darkknightwithanidea1845 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes we all get that it’s based on the A7S3. No big deal there, except it’s Cine 1-4 gamma profile & some other cosmetic changes. But what no one is talking about is - that this camera is their flagship intro into what’s coming next - Sony’s AIRPEAK drone. Their drone will accomodate the form factor & size of the FX3, thus putting all it’s other competitors out of the market. Mounting an FX3 to a Sony designed drone. It’s going to be a game changer. So think big, think forwards & stop the small talk over the A7S3. It’s called progress.
@martelljhixson
@martelljhixson 3 жыл бұрын
That a marketing short fall of sony not the public. They haven't highlighted the supposed progress.
@TwoThieves
@TwoThieves 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Jake! Such a helpful video. Bought my FX3 from you guys today. Can't wait.
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful and congrats on the purchase, its an awesome camera! Jake
@InvisageStudios
@InvisageStudios 3 жыл бұрын
No Waveform, No shutter angle - it has no place being in the 'cinema' line. It's an A7S3 with the XLR unit and no viewfinder. It makes zero sense to me.
@thatcherfreeman
@thatcherfreeman 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I can understand not having internal ND due to the small form factor, but not having shutter angle seems like a design choice inconsistent with a "cinema" line of cameras. Doesn't make it useless, but I feel like there was confusion at Sony as to what this camera was supposed to be.
@danquixote6072
@danquixote6072 3 жыл бұрын
It makes perfect sense to me. With all those holes there is no need for a cage and combined with the absence of a viewfinder, it can now fit in large pockets - great news when you are travelling on planes often. In addition, the fan is a welcome move and I love all those red lights that glow up when you are recording - a real help when you are more often than not recording yourself. Great for making KZfaq videos. I don't know what shutter angle is so I guess I won't miss that. I think the word 'cinema' is a bit misleading. It's more for small productions.
@thokeJackass
@thokeJackass 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but shutter-angle is a minor detail - how often do you switch between frame-rates, and how hard is it changing the shutter speed instead? A waveform does no good on such a small screen anyway - recon most people will get an external monitor for waveform, falsecolor and so forth anyway. Nice compromis for the size, and a nice feature to be able to adjust in scale in rigging
@thatcherfreeman
@thatcherfreeman 3 жыл бұрын
@@thokeJackass The thing that bugs me about not having shutter angle is that it's so trivial to implement and there can't possibly be a hardware limitation that prevents it from existing. Plus, virtually every other serious video camera has it so it's a little comical to exclude it in a camera that has "cinema line" printed on it. If anything, the term "cinema camera" now just means that the camera has at least two 1/4"-20 screw holes on the body. It's a pretty great convenience too. The FX3 can shoot in many different framerates, so if you're shooting a wedding or something and you're switching even just a few times between 24p and 120p, it's nice to just set the shutter angle once and just never have to worry about how your motion blur looks again. There's enough stuff going on in a shoot already that being able to set something and forget about it is a valuable tool to avoid making a mistake later.
@gurugamer8632
@gurugamer8632 2 жыл бұрын
Black Magic 6K pro better with internal XLR inputs
@markr041
@markr041 3 жыл бұрын
Sony says the battery life of the fx3 is 1.6X that of the a7s iii. The zoom lever can be used to implement clear image zoom, which turns a prime lens into a zoom with little resolution loss. Very useful. The fx3 has touch screen focus tracking, which the fx3 does not. This is an important feature that works very well.
@gurugamer8632
@gurugamer8632 2 жыл бұрын
`Why is the battery life more on FX3 than A7s III? they same cameras.
@AxTechs
@AxTechs 3 жыл бұрын
Final, the review we've all been waiting for
@JonathanPalfrey
@JonathanPalfrey 3 жыл бұрын
Shame they couldn't have added ND filters. Its the one thing I think A7siii owners would happily pay extra plus looks an EVF for
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
I really really wish this is something they added and when I asked Sony at Pinewood they said it would take away from the FX6, which I understand but it would have been a killer feature. Especially considering the BMPCC6K Pro has just done it for a lot less money!! Jake
@Frytech
@Frytech 3 жыл бұрын
@@CVPTV That's really kinda frustrating and honestly dumb, especially if it really was dictated more by marketing rather than engineering abilities. I mean, FX6 is kinda weird camera anyways - no mic inputs without that top handle, AF interface is really stupid, and the menus are kinda weird as well. Maybe instead of going Canon way of crippling cameras, they should've added ND to FX3 and then later update FX6 as well with Mark 2 version, adding new menus, AF tap to focus and track system, etc. I just sincerely hope Sony won't turn into Canon, and start using that cripple hammer on their cameras.
@JonathanPalfrey
@JonathanPalfrey 3 жыл бұрын
@@CVPTV thanks for asking and telling us that. At least it's an honest answer from them I guess. Not sure I'd agree with them that it takes away from the FX6 as it's a completely different form factor and lacks SDI/Genlock. Yeah it's why I ordered a 6K Pro. A small form factor with ND, big bright screen and EVF is exactly the camera I needed for travel work. FX3 could have been a consideration if ND was in there.
@MarcusGainesCoasterTouring
@MarcusGainesCoasterTouring 3 жыл бұрын
I have the FX6, I’d have bought the FX3 as a B cam/ travel cam, if it had internal ND. But no ND = no purchase, sorry CVP.
@JonathanPalfrey
@JonathanPalfrey 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarcusGainesCoasterTouring yeah it's weird isn't it. A FX3 with ND would be the perfect B camera to an FX6 instead without ND you may as well save the money and get the A7siii. Especially as the XLR audio module is less important if you already have sound going into the FX6.
@travisminneapolis
@travisminneapolis 3 жыл бұрын
For video creators: Some significant upgrades like the Handle for XLR recording, the additional recording indicator lights, and the rocker Zoom (albeit not much info about it?) and the ability to not have a cage seem appealing over the A7S III But - compared to the BMPCC 6k Pro, unless I really needed IBIS and super-high frame rate in 4k, and AF, I'd go BlackMagic. If I want internal Raw, 6k, Built-in ND filters, then clearly the FX3 isn't for you. If you want to do livestreaming - and are using BlackMagic's Atem series - then the ability to control and color your cameras over HDMI is phenomenal. If you need more cable connections and such - the FX5 is solid - but at 250% the price? Really depends on what you NEED and then what you can budget.
@guidoserrano2629
@guidoserrano2629 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered the BMPCC 6k PRO on launch day. With all the rumors about the fx3 going around last week I knew it was not gonna be the right one for me.
@clifftotten7609
@clifftotten7609 3 жыл бұрын
Does your FX3 copy have noise reduction control? There seems to be a conflict between KZfaq FX3 reviewer's units. Brandon Washing says his does have noise reduction control yet Gerald Undone says his does not in his comments. Does yours have it?
@Frytech
@Frytech 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that needs clarification. Also about base ISO selector: does it have one like in FX6 or does the camera always switches automatically?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Jake. Nice work!
@truecuckoo
@truecuckoo 3 жыл бұрын
How’s the fan noise sounding? Does it kick in hard when needed?
@ResizeFilms
@ResizeFilms 3 жыл бұрын
It’s very quiet. Also you can turn it off.
@gurugamer8632
@gurugamer8632 2 жыл бұрын
Same sound as Atomos recorder
@kevinevans651
@kevinevans651 3 жыл бұрын
As usual - an Awesome... honest review - Keep up the great work!
@shem44
@shem44 3 жыл бұрын
Many people are buying a7siii for video features, not for photo. Its good that Sony released a video centric a7siii. But they should priced it cheaper or the same as a7siii, not more expensive.
@NisbetMedia
@NisbetMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Love the review - love the look of the camera. Can I do without an EVF ? Not sure
@rjaymolina
@rjaymolina 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. If you have this camera or equivalent, you should be using an external monitor anyway
@rayaneskyoxis9318
@rayaneskyoxis9318 3 жыл бұрын
nice video guys when can we expect the angenieux optimo primes review ?
@massimilianperetti7331
@massimilianperetti7331 3 жыл бұрын
The most anticipated filmmaking camera? Says who?
@educatetube
@educatetube 3 жыл бұрын
Sony FX3 is the cine camera that Sony a7s3 could have been. However, in my opinion, I would skip FX3 and a7s3 altogether and go all in with FX6. For sub-$2000, there are so many cine camera choices: Sigma fp, BM 6k, Fuji XT4 and Panasonic S5, which they are half the price of a7s3 or FX3.
@Frytech
@Frytech 3 жыл бұрын
True, but FX6 is also a bit of a stupid camera: clunky AF selection, no freaking audio on a relatively big body (compared to mirrorless cameras), mediocre menu, plus it’s substantially more expensive. Almost feels like FX6 should be now updated to the Mark 2 version or something.
@educatetube
@educatetube 3 жыл бұрын
@@Frytech Yes, it will be nice to have FX6ii, so FX6 will go down in price, but I don't think that will happen for another 3 years.
@madedigital
@madedigital 3 жыл бұрын
This was designed for the pro drone market
3 жыл бұрын
It would be soooo cool if sony would offer a Slog 3 to cinetone conversion lut for fx3, fx6, fx9 and a7siii ... cinetone looks amazing but i still prefer recording in slog3 and using luts or completely grad it myself. They also offer a conversion lut to rec709 so cinetone would be a great addition
@symparanekromenoi
@symparanekromenoi 3 жыл бұрын
Lets see how how the colours compare to the fx6 since the a7s iii had alien skin tones
@mohamedhisham8791
@mohamedhisham8791 3 жыл бұрын
Finally. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@john3Lee
@john3Lee 3 жыл бұрын
A great review - Thanks
@DavidLuke-su2kp
@DavidLuke-su2kp 12 күн бұрын
What size lens adapter would fit the Sony FX3?
@rasheed106
@rasheed106 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how this compares to Sigma FP's Full Frame 4K raw. Any thoughts anyone?
@MrDschaen
@MrDschaen 3 жыл бұрын
Wait for Thursday, Sigma is supposed to launch their "fp L" then. Competition is good!
@ExploreTravelTV
@ExploreTravelTV 3 жыл бұрын
I am hoping this will drop the price of the a7s3 now or Maybe people will want to sell them a bit cheaper now slightly used.
@kolapyellow7631
@kolapyellow7631 3 жыл бұрын
professional vidcam in a palm size. Looks Really petty! I should learn to Shoot too. !
@jannoj9268
@jannoj9268 3 жыл бұрын
I think that at 12800 ISO there is no noise reduction but it's just dual-base ISO
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
Sony don't class the FX3 or a7S III as "dual-base ISO" Jake
@TheOneMonk
@TheOneMonk 3 жыл бұрын
The thing with Sony releases: whatever camera you buy from them will be dated 6 months later. Which, however, doesn‘t matter as this now ‚old‘ model still is ahead of the competition. So I bought a FX3. Which following above logic will be soon outdated by the FX4. LOL.
@amangrayfilms1538
@amangrayfilms1538 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way it looks. My main need is 120p raw. Can it do that? No. Right? But it can do a lot of other unnecessary things.
@garfieldirwin
@garfieldirwin 3 жыл бұрын
The a7SIII is the better all-rounder. The FX3 is a niche camera that could have been so much more if Sony had included an EFV, internal ND, shutter angle, wave form etc. etc. -- even if they charged more for it.
@kolecava
@kolecava 3 жыл бұрын
FX3 Pocket 4K
@akaiuwu
@akaiuwu 3 жыл бұрын
i'd have sprung for it with my awful wages if it had internal nd! the handle and XLR seems worth it alone for me, but especially with the bmpcc 6k pro that just launched, the fx6 seems a better shout unfortunately even though it's way more expensive - i'll probably stick with an a7mk1 and the xlr k1m for the mo i wish they did something like the fs5 with the higher framerates and s35 sensor but it definitley seems like larger sensors are a thing now :/
@gurugamer8632
@gurugamer8632 2 жыл бұрын
@CVP can you turn the noise reduction off for FX3? Does the battery last longer by how long on FX3 compare to A7S III?
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 2 жыл бұрын
No and no, if anything battery life may be a little worse on FX3. Jake
@gurugamer8632
@gurugamer8632 2 жыл бұрын
@@CVPTV Please can you do a deep comparison of A7 IV and A7S III.
@AbbasTahaie
@AbbasTahaie 3 жыл бұрын
What about prores raw overexposure latitude test guys .
@VICKYVICKY-ft5eg
@VICKYVICKY-ft5eg 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@mohamedhisham8791
@mohamedhisham8791 3 жыл бұрын
Also waiting for the BMPCC 6K PRO REVIEW. ❤️❤️❤️
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
We are working on it now and waiting for the camera to hit our studio!! Keep your eyes peeled and make sure you're subscribed!! Jake
@mohamedhisham8791
@mohamedhisham8791 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh did everything already ❤️❤️❤️
@mohamedhisham8791
@mohamedhisham8791 3 жыл бұрын
Broo also the notification was 25 minutes late.
@giovannifacci
@giovannifacci 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. the 16-35 t3.1 have detachable zoom servo. Is this servo compatible with any other lens? Does it also means that the dial on the FX3 works with the servo no matter what lens is connected? I wuold like to see a much longer lens to cover some event in very confined places where I've struggled with bulkier cameras but still needed the longer lens.
@Jeremybutton
@Jeremybutton 3 жыл бұрын
Noice reduction option like the fx6 ?
@clockworkjosh4967
@clockworkjosh4967 3 жыл бұрын
I am determined to use my a7sii till it dies. Then ill consider my upgrade lol
@kpusa1981uk
@kpusa1981uk 3 жыл бұрын
How do the Sony FX6 and Canon C70 sizes compare?
@zagorcuk1966
@zagorcuk1966 3 жыл бұрын
Does it take pictures like the A7SIII? Do you think the DCI 4K feature will be added to the FX3 in a firmware to distinguish it some more from the A7SIII?
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does and I hope that, 24p & shutter angle are added! Jake
@guidoserrano2629
@guidoserrano2629 3 жыл бұрын
The A7SIII is a video centric photo camera. So, is this a photo centric cinema camera?
@MarcusGainesCoasterTouring
@MarcusGainesCoasterTouring 3 жыл бұрын
Would’ve rather seen no IBIS but internal ND. If it had ND then my credit card would be out.
@Csnumber1
@Csnumber1 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason to buy this over the BlackMagic 6KPro is if you have a bunch of Sony glass. This camera seems very rushed with exclusion of built in ND Filtering, and no true 24fps.
@saminekunis8680
@saminekunis8680 3 жыл бұрын
Were you actually in reality able to record 16 bit proresraw to the Atmos Ninja V, since Atmos points out on their website the all proresraw is 12 bit only. Is this just a marketing trick of Sony ?
@RaymondKPhotoVideography
@RaymondKPhotoVideography 3 жыл бұрын
Concerning High ISO's... has the FX3 better internal NR than the a7s3..? ..or the same NR settings as the FX6..?
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
Same as the A7S III. Jake
@RaymondKPhotoVideography
@RaymondKPhotoVideography 3 жыл бұрын
CVP ohh that's a bummer... I thought since it's part of their cinema line, it 'at-least' will have the same NR menu functions...🙁
@andywakeman9806
@andywakeman9806 3 жыл бұрын
Why does ProRes Raw have worse moiré??? See 9:15.
@capturedbyfabian
@capturedbyfabian 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the beginning of them getting rid of the S series. They are going to get people used to the FX line for premium video and then Alpha for Photo and Hybrid.
@lennutrajektoor
@lennutrajektoor 3 жыл бұрын
Do I get it right the FX3 doesn't have video recording limit as the a7S III has around 30 min?
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
The A7S III doesn't have a record limit no. The difference is the fan that the FX3 has so it should be more reliable for longer recording sessions. Jake
@ResizeFilms
@ResizeFilms 3 жыл бұрын
No record limits on any of these cameras.
@pbrows6310
@pbrows6310 3 жыл бұрын
10:07 That's by far the worst rolling shutter I've seen on any FX3 or A7siii test footage...weird...looks like 15 ms range...not the measured 8.7ms at 25p. (for comparison the Alexa 2.8k 180 degree 24p measured 8.2ms) was this at 24p...? (perhaps 60p giving a false illusion of slower "normal" speed camera pan?) Was this in UHD or in the 4.2k raw output format? Thanks!
@kaimelis
@kaimelis 3 жыл бұрын
12800 not noise reduction, but the second circuit is kicking in. nothing tricky about that.
@victorlolo2008
@victorlolo2008 3 жыл бұрын
so there is no control of noise reduction in Video?
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot turn off the noise reduction like you can in the FX6. Jake
@geoffreybassett6741
@geoffreybassett6741 3 жыл бұрын
@@CVPTV Blows my mind why they wouldn't include these simple things to seperate it from the A7sIII for professionals. Just add the option to disable noise reduction, add shutter angle, and have true 24p recording and you would instantly had justification for working professionals to use it over the A7sIII.
@greggreenhaw
@greggreenhaw 3 жыл бұрын
I would buy a fx4 that is the same height as the fx6 with NDs and same width as the fx3.
@neerajshah830
@neerajshah830 3 жыл бұрын
Is this video shot on the Red Komodo?
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
PTC was shot on C200. B-roll of FX3 was FX9. Theres one shot on Komodo of FX6 outside! Jake
@neerajshah830
@neerajshah830 3 жыл бұрын
@@CVPTV Thank you for the reply! :)
@davidvasiljevic4788
@davidvasiljevic4788 3 жыл бұрын
ND Filter why Sony ???
@TwatMcGee
@TwatMcGee 3 жыл бұрын
It really just seems so redundant tbh
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
It is a weird release from Sony for sure! Jake
@bobbystefano
@bobbystefano 3 жыл бұрын
so glad I did not buy the A7sIII. All the A7siiI owners got burned.
@geoffreybassett6741
@geoffreybassett6741 3 жыл бұрын
Why? This is just a A7sIII without a viewfinder and a sturdier body for more money.
@andywakeman9806
@andywakeman9806 3 жыл бұрын
Only one 1/4" mount on the bottom!!!!! Ugh!!! Why????? Such a pain on gimbals, the plate always twists. Gonna need a cage. So close Sony!
@geoffreybassett6741
@geoffreybassett6741 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is a real headscratcher for me as well, why would you not ad at least a hole for the tripod plate to prevent twisting. The S1H has this!
@ruisenmao9001
@ruisenmao9001 3 жыл бұрын
Sony It won't change for ten thousand years, and still use the inaccurate display. How much inventory is there?
@morpheustorus232
@morpheustorus232 3 жыл бұрын
Well if you thought the BMPCC 6K was pointless LOL! Why didn't they make it a box? I don't hear you cry! I mean there's no magnificent 5" screen to work around...The bias and hypocrisy is hilarious
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
No bias, and actually if you rewatch the video I think my conclusion for the Pocket 6K was much more positive!
@Rolypopoly
@Rolypopoly 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. But maybe ease up a bit on the rimlight there, cowboy. The thumbnail makes you look like you have a piece of white string hanging off your glasses
@CVPTV
@CVPTV 3 жыл бұрын
Not gunna lie, the cowboy got me 😂Jake
@ondrejjanoska660
@ondrejjanoska660 3 жыл бұрын
The price is disappointment.
@christiankansichi6622
@christiankansichi6622 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see any significant difference. I don't understand at all! ND filters would have made it understandable. Such a contrast from Blackmagic a week ago. Who asked for this?
@jackdolah2031
@jackdolah2031 3 жыл бұрын
I cant keep up with sony .. cant catch a fucking break
@NicolasWaldvogel
@NicolasWaldvogel 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah right, so a pointless camera really. Ah well, they can't get it right everytime
@MuwexTech
@MuwexTech 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda boring camera. Would rather get fx6. I got fx9 tho 😂
@NicolasWaldvogel
@NicolasWaldvogel 3 жыл бұрын
haha good for you dude
@FlipDeRiviera
@FlipDeRiviera 3 жыл бұрын
Not really the same price tag. And it’s certainly not a boring camera, in fact the FX3 have some better specs than the FX9, like high frame rates, tracking AF, and no need for an additional €2500 adapter just to output RAW video. Only lacks the built-in variable ND. It’s quite an exciting camera actually.
@leodorian
@leodorian 3 жыл бұрын
No DCI 4K, no shutter angle, no true 24p... they clearly didn’t think this through. You shouldn’t call it a cinema camera without these features!
@ResizeFilms
@ResizeFilms 3 жыл бұрын
That can be added with a future firmware update.
@leodorian
@leodorian 3 жыл бұрын
@@ResizeFilms Yes, but I wouldn't buy a camera in the hopes of getting a firmware update. You never know if Sony will deliver.
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