Sony FX30 Low Light Test vs Sony FX6 and Sony A7IV

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Жыл бұрын

In this video, we compare the Sony FX30 to the Sony FX6 in low-light scenarios. Check out the results and see if 2500 ISO is a lie!
This is a test of the low light capabilities of the Sony FX30, in this test, we test to see where the ISO values generally sit before breaking down and also compare to the Sony FX6, and Sony A7IV as well, this is a quick test, and I tried to get as much information as I could, but hopefully, this helps a bit!
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@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I gotta put in a disclaimer so people understand. On one end 2000 iso DID look a touch cleaner in the studio scenario , and 2500 looked better when I got to the lowlight scene. Confusing , yes , but all that to say that I’m just sharing results, and they may vary! Try these things for yourselves , and see what happens , end of the day , it’s metal , circuits and glass, there’s no need to try to come for people off of camera settings AND this video wasn’t trying to get at anyone. It’s cameras , it’s not that serious 🙏🏾 hope it was enjoyable , or at least y’all learned something !

@kostasthf7923 4 ай бұрын

Dude your reviews are the best. Very well done mate!!

@KofiYeboah 4 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

@HiMadeMukbang Жыл бұрын

In terms of image quality, do you notice any difference between fx30 & A7IV in control light situation ? I own sony zve10 and really want to upgrade for better image quality but still can’t decide wheter should I go for fx30 where I already have some lenses option or a7iv.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Generally not on a huge scale

@timschooler 2 ай бұрын

Have been using an a7s3 and a7IV for a few years and just picked up an FX30, that’s how I found your channel. Not only one of the coolest names I’ve ever heard, but some of the best content on KZfaq ☺️

@KofiYeboah 2 ай бұрын

Love that man, thank you !

@RippleEffectgh Ай бұрын

Lol Ghanaian name. I see you my brother

@GasWorksISO Жыл бұрын

The lie started when one guy on KZfaq claimed there was no dual base, and the sheep followed.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Yeah that was weird , I had to see for myself , but 2500 is handy !

@JeffBourke Жыл бұрын

Yep.

@Shotswith.aj_ Жыл бұрын

Loving your content Kofi!! Great video!!!

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Thanks ! I appreciate it ✌🏾😁

@AllThingsFilm1 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video, Kofi. Probably the best one of the FX30, yet. Subscribed.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Oh man appreciation to the highest , thank you !

@akammer1000 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparison video, some great info! Would be great to see one of your run and gun indoor gym training vids with the FX30. Not always ideal lighting setup, fast movement and darker scenes in general. I've been shooting this style indoors but with the a7iii and thinking about the FX30 as a replacement to that but not sure if it would be better.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Yah imma try to give it a try !

@ciudadanosdelcosmos Жыл бұрын

Hi,in photography i will have some artifacs becouse only have electronic shutter? thanks!

@holdenbarnes9559 Жыл бұрын

Great comparison. Thanks for making this!

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

No problem, anytime !

@stevenerixon33 Жыл бұрын

I''m really trying to figure out if my next step is to buy the fx30, fx3 or sony a7siii. Hesitating with the fx30 because of bad low light capabilities. Although the price for fx3 and sony a7siii is quite high seeing that you don't get internal raw (and some other stuff). Decisions, decisions, decisions!

@starterpvck2043 Жыл бұрын

Question: When you were showcasing the different ISO values, were you using an ND filter to make them look similar/ not overexposed (800 vs 2500)? Or does it have something to do with the Cine EI values? Thinking of grabbing this camera, coming from an a6600 so Cine EI etc is new to me, not quite sure how it works. Thanks and keep up the great work chief!

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I used Cine ei for the 800/2500 but flexible iso for anything not those values ! But I also used ND if things were too bright !

@robertaltman222 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your testing and insight! I find the FX 30 image seems very good up to and ISO of 6400 - useable at 8000 - and really starts to break down at 10,000 (from both your and other tests I have been looking at). A bit of Davinci Noise reduction and I doubt anyone would spot the difference between the FX 30 and the FX 6 from 6400 and lower. Honestly I never see a need for higher ISO's than that in my work - obvi documentary shooters probably will.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

With the power of resolve noise reduction , anything is possible … kinda

@jamesmcintoshjr Жыл бұрын

Great comparison Kofi, really helpful! Sending you appreciation from warden station. :D

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Haha all the way easy , bless you my g!

@Josh_Sattin Жыл бұрын

Hey Kofi, great video! Thanks for doing all of these tests. I think there is definitely some weird stuff going on. With a second base ISO of 2500, the image at 2500 should be cleaner than 2000, and it isn't. That was the main point of my video and you also note that fact in your video. Here is what Sony defines: "Dual Base ISO function that provides two distinctly different base sensitivity levels. The low and high sensitivity levels have almost exactly the same noise levels and both have the same dynamic range." The noise at 2500 should be "almost exactly the same" as at 800. I know this language is a little vague, but its even noisier at 2500 than 2000 and that shouldn't be the case based on their own definition.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

In the kit scenario I did notice it was a touch cleaner at 2000 vs 2500, in the more “lowlight” part close to the middle of the video , it isn’t , probably could use some dynamic range testing , but from using it more through the day i at least found it looks better at 2500, a base iso also would imply there’s the most DR at 800 and 2500, I don’t have fancy charts but I’m sure they probably called the second high base because there’s close to equal stops at2500

@Josh_Sattin Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah Yeah, it's super weird. I'm glad other people are testing this out. I know that the dynamic range is similar at 800 and 2500. Gerald tested that and reported the results. I am just reporting on the noise and how it isn't cleaner at 2500 than 2000 which should be the case. Sony's own definition about dual base ISO includes dynamic range and noise. Both are included.

@don_tpanic6052 8 ай бұрын

On fx6 is noticeably has more contrast, saturation and it is warmer. It looks graded, while the fx30 and a7iv look like just corrected

@seancloutier2577 Жыл бұрын

I always refer to the movie Collateral with Tom Cruise and Jamie Fox...that movie has tons of noise, the director was even worried about it when they made the movie. One of the first big films on Digital, and they did pretty good. Most cameras, Super 35 Fuji, Sony, etc and the four-thirds like GH5s can do better today than that super expensive camera back then. But can anyone use light the way they did, or tell a story. I mean, the FX30 for the price, gives guys like me unlimited potential when you think about it.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

That’s a great attitude to have about it! Just because it’s not an $1800 Venice , doesn’t mean you can’t throw down !

@s7654r Жыл бұрын

You are so right. That movie was amazing. Director Michael Mann pioneered it and shot on SONY cameras at that time, and the low light scenes was incredible (at that time).

@britestarofficial Жыл бұрын

Great video thank you. What was your presenting shot on as that looks awesome! Thanks!

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

The 25mm dzofilm vespid !

@britestarofficial Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah Thanks, and which camera please?

@estevanzamora Жыл бұрын

Hey quick question: You said that you want to make sure you’re using the “correct Cine EI values” to avoid introducing noise, but doesn’t Cine EI not actually affect your exposure since it’s one of two bases and that’s it? Meaning, the exposure index changes are just for monitoring and not for noise calculations since you should be exposing at the base and not at whatever EI value since that’s changeable later in post. Am I understanding this correctly? Still trying to 100% internalize the Cine EI thing.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Yess you are correct , but also using a lower ei and exposing for 18% grey will help with retaining shadow detail , hense the “correct” exposure

@estevanzamora Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah AHHHHHHHHHHH! Ok, I think I get it now! Thanks brother!

@jaymills1720 Жыл бұрын

What’s the usability of fx30 with natural light and not using a denoiser due to time and turn around needs? Wondering if fx30 is good enough in lowlight without it.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t go into pitch blackness with it for sure ! But I made a more in depth part 2 if you want to see if in action!

@zaidmeetsworld1490 Жыл бұрын

KZfaq compression destroyed the night time montage bruh...great video though! Subscribed when I saw Toronto!

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Represent ✌🏾

@kenloyd 10 ай бұрын

Love this Kofi. So honest and straight forward...plus, Popeyes.

@KofiYeboah 10 ай бұрын

Best of all worlds 😁

@TheFandangovideoguy Жыл бұрын

I like this camera...I have the A6400...I don't think the pic quality of the FX30 is much better but it may be more fun to use...I like the shots at night around downtown Toronto...I live here too. question...does it have a dedicated white balance button? that I can just press while pointing the camera at a white card to get the correct white balance? and also, if I connect an external monitor (NOT a recorder-just a monitor) to the camera via HDMI and while in 4k I press record, do both the external monitor AND the camera's LCD display video at the same time? I ask because with my a6400 (and also with the a7iii), the moment I press record in 4k, the external monitor displays video but the camera's LCD goes to black but maintains on screen display info like f stop etc BUT no video...I want both screens to display video while recording in 4k...thanks so much!

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Mine doesn’t when I export my signal via the hdmi unfortunately

@TheFandangovideoguy Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah hey! I got the FX30..love it a lot! It's the most I could afford and I will use it with a Sigma 16mm f1.4 and 30mm f1.4 and the Sony 18-105mm f4...I will not get the sigma 18-50mmf2.8 for now...if I want a wide angle, do you think a Sony 11mm f1.8 would be the best option? ..how about for the longer range? I do video of course..I tested my LCD monitor with this camera and the video is fed to both the external monitor and the internal LCD when recording even in 4k...I like that. I got a couple of Prograde v60 cards for now-can't afford the v90 or the CF express cards...wow...but I shoot mostly 4k 30 and some 4k60-also 1080p 30 and 1080p 60 sometimes...nothing too heavy. I tried a couple of lexar v60 cards and those didn't work for me. They would stop recording after a few secs in 4k. Not fast enough I guess...in fact I was able to use a Sandisk v30 for 4k and it worked just fine...I will never record at the highest bitrates...I intend to use S-Cinetone mostly but with some tweakings. I don't want it to be too saturated or contrasty. I work (a small TV station) they just purchased a FX6 so I I will use my FX30 as a B camera for interviews-I may use S-cinetone on both...is it hard to march a Sony a 7iii to the FX6 since the 7iii doesnt have S-cinetone? I don't know S log yet. Thanks for your videos!

@pauloribeirofilmes Жыл бұрын

thanks for the video, one question: you recorded 4K 24fps (7IV is fullframe at 4k 24fps maybe that's why the iso performance is better)

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I’m sorry, what’s the question?

@StudioGalvan Жыл бұрын

Very Nice Job. 👍🏼 I am having a bit of a time seeing the noise on my 1080 monitor though. Perhaps you can zoom in more on the pixel-peeping shots in upcoming videos. 🤓

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Should be in the Vimeo link !

@Sanchan Жыл бұрын

Great video! Would be cool to compare lens with different apertures with FX30. I was looking to get a 18-105 with power zoom but dont know if sigma is a better choice. I feel like new cinema creators would like to know what lenses to to go for.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I would love to ! But I’d feel slighting dishonest since I don’t have apsc glass , and because I have 2 full frame cameras , I don’t plan on buying any, if I have a chance though, absolutely!

@andrewj22 Жыл бұрын

Does Sigma offer any e-mount power zooms? I really want a mid-range power zoom, but Sony doesn't have tons of offerings.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Power zoom im not sure !

@JohnBRealtyTeam Жыл бұрын

I just bought the fx30 for real estate video. Im concerned about the low light. Do you recommend I return and get the FX3 or a7iv? or just keep the fx30

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I can’t possibly make that call for you I’m sorry

@anilyolsal Жыл бұрын

Great test! Answered a lot of the questions that I had, except one 😅When shooting 4k 120fps with an additional crop how well does the 2500 iso perform?

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I haven’t tried , and tbh I’m afraid to be sad after😂

@anilyolsal Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah Hahahaha, me too! I really want to upgrade to the fx30 from Canon RP but going from full-frame to APS-C aside, additional crops making me somewhat scared😂

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

It’s not AS bad as people think

@anilyolsal Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah I got the FX30 and yeah it's not that bad! Your reviews helped a lot when deciding whether get it or not, thank you!

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

@@anilyolsal you’re welcome !!

@rekinxxxl Жыл бұрын

Only issue I have with video is that in some cases the bitrate seems to be not enough, until it catches up after a while. Example in 5:17 where it cleans up at 5:25. Also happens in the low light footage at the end. Which is bit annoying when trying to actually see the quality it produces :D

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

There's some sort of compression issue going on , I'm not sure what it is :( sorry about that!

@rafaelgarcia-ti4xb Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah are you exporting in prores? this usually happens to me when I export h.264

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

@@rafaelgarcia-ti4xb I’m on resolve so I think I was h.264

@kaizimmer417 Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by saying "...but you also gonna have to be okay with crushing down your blacks a little bit?" (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e8ecYNGorZ3SiaM.html) Does this refer to some process in post production? An answer would be highly appreciated.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Yup that’s a post production thing

@matthewsneakers Жыл бұрын

I love the FX30 it’s my absolute dream camera. I’m currently using the a6400 but when I can start making money from my camera I’ll definitely be upgrading to the FX30 unless they start giving them away😂

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Hahah that’s a good plan honestly

@enjoygary Жыл бұрын

What softbox did you light the subject with?

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I have a falcon eyes RX 24TDX I use for these ! Or an aputure light dome on my forza 300

@chosenideahandle Жыл бұрын

Ok, how many Sony shooting YTers are actually in TO? We’ve got so many, and so many doing amazing work. I’m a little biased, but your stuff is great.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

There’s approximately 67.5 lol 😂

@gregjlatham Жыл бұрын

Loving the content, but you may want to know that there's some crazy compression going on with some of your videos. I noticed it in a previous video as well. It might be worth uploading in 4K or feeding KZfaq a higher bitrate version.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

So weird because this IS a 4K file I uploaded , and it should play in 4K 😂 dang it

@robbiewalcott4465 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I noticed this too :/ it looks more like the codec is breaking apart- not too dissimilar to the datamosh effect. Maybe double check your export settings 🤷🏽‍♂️ Great video btw :)

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

@@robbiewalcott4465 I checked, and it’s been the exact same all the way through, it’s super weird and it’s just been this video too, what’s worse is that it’s not the same part of the video every time either :/

@officialmichaelhudson Жыл бұрын

Bro, I rrrrrreealllyyy need to get this camera 📸

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Get that back order going !

@mcarlkv53 Жыл бұрын

what do you edit with? FCX or davincini or adobe?, etc...

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

DaVinci !

@abdulsamadbutt6677 Жыл бұрын

It is a good companion 👍 In the future, if you have time, can you pls compare 4k60 from FX30 to the Sony A7Iv? The Fx30's 4k 60 is down sampled from 6k. While for the a7iv it is down sampled from 4.6k. So in theory it should be of better quality on the Fx30.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I literally just finished part 1 of a frame rate video series now ! Im actually sitting in my car uploading footage 😂 good call

@jfana22 Жыл бұрын

Thumbnail is dope !!

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Thanks homie ! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

@JasonMorrisphotocinema Жыл бұрын

APS-c is not professional anyway 😂 great video My bro. As you know I love this camera and filming actual professional work with it is a dream like 95% of Sonys other cameras. Any new camera does the job fine these days 🔥

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Miss me with that “not pro enough” thing 😂😂 I’m still lost people are saying this ,I’m having a hell of a time with the fx30 so far , I just had 71616615 Dms Abi it the low light thing , so I decided to try it for myself ✌🏾 video 2/16 🙏🏾

@RunNGunPhoto Жыл бұрын

While I'll probably never buy a Sony camera, this was a great review and I always enjoy learning about what's available on the market. Great video, keep it up! *Subscribed* ☑

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Thanks I appreciate you !

@muro_35 Жыл бұрын

very good comparison.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@petrub27 Жыл бұрын

It works if your camera is set to cine ei. Otherwise, you get a dual sensitivity

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Oooh good find!

@sanjay6669 Жыл бұрын

Hii...shivansh from India.. Fx30 , a7iv, a7s3 ..who is better genuinely? And value for money

@kinp86 4 ай бұрын

a7s3

@skepsys Жыл бұрын

how did you compare a7iv with fx6? in the 12,800 scene, clearly fx6 had lower aperture than a7iv, the bokeh difference of the background is obvious. so, if you used a lower aperture on fx6 and such a big aperture for a7iv in comparison, of course 12,800 looked a lot better. am i wrong? if not, then maybe you would address this "error"..?

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Same lens and I’m pretty sure I was at f2 or 2.2 in each , that being said objectively the fx6 would do a better job at 12,800 than the a7iv

@RSkad 11 ай бұрын

thank you bro !

@KofiYeboah 11 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@jijivishant Жыл бұрын

Should I buy sigma 16,30,56 1.4 mm for fx30?

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Yes

@jijivishant Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah thnks

@nyambe Жыл бұрын

I wrote the guy and send him my footage tests. So he is saying that knowing it’s not true. When it comes to cameras reviews, we need to consider the visual language of the reviewer. There is lush beautiful footage and there is walking in your backyard. Both are fine, but it is a factor.

@zenphotocraftmedia8326 Жыл бұрын

How is the auto focus in extreme conditions low light

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Going to do a lowlight part 2 for this !

@zenphotocraftmedia8326 Жыл бұрын

@KofiYeboah can you do streets . Clubs and 🕯 Candle and colour chart . Wanna see colour shift

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

@@zenphotocraftmedia8326 I mean rarely do i make a whole video for one person , but I’ll keep in mind lol , iunno where I’m going to find a club from lol

@DanLawrenceDC Жыл бұрын

Cant find a FX30 for sale in stock anywhere in the country

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Gotta get on that back order list , it’s insane how high demand it is !

@DanLawrenceDC Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah zero stock across all 50 states from coast to coast.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Hopefully that changes !

@kiddonline504 Жыл бұрын

i notice major noise on the fx30 i never have noise on my a7siii

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure how to help you as I don’t have enough information

@AndreiVaida Жыл бұрын

Two sad thing about this video: 1. The footage becomes very pixelated a few times, for example at 5:18 ☹. I suppose it's a "render with GPU" issue. I watch in 4K. 2. The volume of the voice drops several times when showing the footage, for example at 5:25. One very good aspect of this video: It shows the difference between different ISO values side by side, compared with other cameras. This is what I was looking for! Thank you for this video! You have a 👍 from me. For FX30 I know that you need to manually enable the dual ISO from settings. For the future, please double check the rendered video before uploading.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

It’s so weird that on my computer, that doesn’t happen, I’m going to do a part 2 this month to really see if I can fix it !

@bakerfx4968 Жыл бұрын

Didn’t know you had a channel! Haha nice to see that face again!

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Wait again??

@bakerfx4968 Жыл бұрын

@@KofiYeboah haha I met you in London Ontario quite a few years back when filming with Joel/BOSS

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

@@bakerfx4968 Omg thats a throwback ! :D sorry my harddrive (brain) is broken, thank you man !

@nagajamir9064 9 ай бұрын

Wow I need to buy fx6 now ❤ around 1k

@KofiYeboah 9 ай бұрын

If you find one for 1000 god bless!

@prefix808 Жыл бұрын

Your audio levels are jumping around in different sections of the video…might want to check out your upload.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Video had all sorts of issues, part two probably coming soon

@BulletproofPitbulls Жыл бұрын

Toronto in the house

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Yessir 🙏🏾🙏🏾

@BulletproofPitbulls Жыл бұрын

I made a few videos and stopped, getting back to it and getting serious this time. I got two fx30s so gonna watch your stuff, I also have a 6600 so gotta figure out how to make everything match. Thanks for the videos

@terrylivers Жыл бұрын

Nice.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Thanks !

@javierherrera9450 Жыл бұрын

Some say she's still sitting there turning her head back and forth and holding that color checker.

@dusty_burkhalter Жыл бұрын

Looks like hanging on to my A7IV is a better option than the FX30. If I didn’t already have the A7IV I wouldn’t hesitate to pick up the FX30 though. On the other hand I’ve known for a whole that the FX6 is my dream camera for football highlights and seeing the ISO comparison here it leaves no doubt, that FX6 picture is next level.

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

The FX6 for me has been a dream since I got it last year ! I have my 12 month review dropping soon 🙏🏾

@royaltykidstv Жыл бұрын

GH6 or fx30?

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

I’ve never laid a hand on a Panasonic camera in my life ahah

@jakenotfromstatefarm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. P.S........ I said low light 💀😂

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Haha caught slippin 🤣

@rafael.c_costa 8 ай бұрын

fx did way better with 12.800 iso and a 1.4 lens vs the other with a 5.6 lens 👍

@zaiddagamseh Жыл бұрын

KZfaq compression destroyed the night time montage bruh...

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

The KZfaq gods chose violence Make sure you’re in 4K👍🏾

@RumenNaydenovStudio2023 9 ай бұрын

This girl is like Mona Lisa

@KofiYeboah 9 ай бұрын

😂

@CaedanMay Жыл бұрын

Name a better duo than Popeyes and an fx30

@KofiYeboah Жыл бұрын

Yo honestly , I can’t find one😂

@CaedanMay Жыл бұрын

Man I came back to this video because of the new fx30 update. I have the a7siii and was wondering if it’s worth it to sell for the fx30 and pick up an fx6.